Re: [Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA
Hi Charles, As a matter of fact Ishan is being dealt with off list, and I suspect won't be a serious problem for the list here on out. He is now on full time moderated status, and I'm doing my best to filter through his messages and reject anything even slightly rude, inflammatory, or just in appropriate. If he continues to send in appropriate messages to the list and I have to reject more messages than I approve that's it. He will be terminated. That said, I agree with you the two main problems with Ishan is he seems very immature for his age. He says he is 18, but acts more like what I'd expect from a 12 year old. He also comes off rude, disrespectful, and while that may or may not be intentional it is still in appropriate behavior. So we will see if we can turn this around through moderation. Cheers! On 10/17/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Due to the lack of subject line change, I've missed most of this discussion. I think, personally, that the main problem is not a language barrier, although, to some degree. The main factors are a lack of maturity and a total disrespect of others. I no longer read his posts due to their lack of understandability and due to their content that, to be honest, tee me off when they can be understood. While this may seem harsh, I do mean it as constructive criticism. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA
Due to the lack of subject line change, I've missed most of this discussion. I think, personally, that the main problem is not a language barrier, although, to some degree. The main factors are a lack of maturity and a total disrespect of others. I no longer read his posts due to their lack of understandability and due to their content that, to be honest, tee me off when they can be understood. While this may seem harsh, I do mean it as constructive criticism. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA
Exactly. He asks questions the answers to wic are found in a given game's user guide and, whensomeone suggests quite politely that mayybe he lookthrough said document he gets upset and starts accusing them of being rude. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Ishan - Re: An Inquiry about MOTA Due to the lack of subject line change, I've missed most of this discussion. I think, personally, that the main problem is not a language barrier, although, to some degree. The main factors are a lack of maturity and a total disrespect of others. I no longer read his posts due to their lack of understandability and due to their content that, to be honest, tee me off when they can be understood. While this may seem harsh, I do mean it as constructive criticism. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n
