[Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Nope, not since Castle Quest was shelved. Now there's a game that had potential. What I don't undertan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched the 3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project themselves. I had a guy Email me about that a few months back. Quite a depressing chap actually, always ready to assume the worst about people. His opinion was that the problems with the development team that forced BSC to shelf the game involved computer viruses and landmines and things. I seem to remember him saying something about how he was going to write to BSC and demand that they resume work on CQ. Needless to say I hope he took my warning seriously, but I haven't heard from him since that last message. - Original Message - From: will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service hi i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of payers and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not sure though speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages smile regards, WIll - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
hi i believe that these third parties provided real voice acting etcetra are there any releases of games inthe next audyssey Ron, like game announcements? if so we can put them on our xmas lists ow in case the next issue is out in december But back to the origianl topic of this thread, as i said i think we will see chillingham 2 epends when though regards,w ill - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Nope, not since Castle Quest was shelved. Now there's a game that had potential. What I don't undertan is why BSC couldn't siply have ditched the 3rd party people they were working with and continued on with the project themselves. I had a guy Email me about that a few months back. Quite a depressing chap actually, always ready to assume the worst about people. His opinion was that the problems with the development team that forced BSC to shelf the game involved computer viruses and landmines and things. I seem to remember him saying something about how he was going to write to BSC and demand that they resume work on CQ. Needless to say I hope he took my warning seriously, but I haven't heard from him since that last message. - Original Message - From: will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service hi i agree but guess bavisofts games are aimed at a certain market of payers and i think personal issues hold bavisoft back from development times not sure though speaking of BSC any games off them for xmas i wonde? I know this question off topic but we haven't heard off BSC for ages smile regards, WIll - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Well said. I was seriously considering attempting to learn programming myself, but I'm beginning to realize that might not be an option for me. If I don't have the patience for math I'm probably not going to have the patience for actual programming, and I'd imagine that patience is a big requirement in something like that. You're basically learning a foreing language, computerese, and learning a foreign language takes time and patience. Thtand I've never really enjoyed ath, so I have a feeling I might not enjoy programming all that much either. granted I could be wrong, but I'm basing this on my own experiences with Algebra. So far we aren't exactly on the same wave length. - Original Message - From: simon.dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service hi Brandon, you wrote: bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and I wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. why are they a fraud? btw that's f, r, a, u, d. and why would you want them to go out of business pray tel? there are very few devs out there as it is so wishing one more down the drain is only going to be detrimental to you and the community as a whole. if you don't like the games don't buy them simple as. there a lot of people who believe it or not actually enjoyed them. its comments like yours the reason James north has given up on this community dare I say blind people in general. if you carry on thinking in this manner, the only joke is going to be on you my friend. fact, Jeff has had a lot of personal problems when writing chillingham, if I was him I would just pack it all in and say screw the blind gamers. now if you want to make a difference, why don't you learn the necessary skills of programming and coding and write a game of your own, then we can judge your standards! - Original Message - From: Brandon armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the overall mediocrity of their titles. - Original Message - From: Brandon armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
well, not only taking a long time to release something, but saying they'll release it in september 2005 when it's now november 2006 without any progress news is just diabolical in my opinion. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
That is why you shouldn't plan release dates and tell the public. It's just a lot of trouble for the dev when you don't have anything to release on time. I'm not a programmer myself, but I have listened and I know that much. If I ever do write a game, I will not guarantee anything until I am 100% certain I can keep my promises. - Original Message - From: x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:33:28 - Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. that's just my opinion, i'm not that impatient, but i can understand both sides. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the overall mediocrity of their titles. - Original Message - From: Brandon armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
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Once I thought they could be. However after I heard you couldn't install the cds fully, and other user problems, support things and the price I doubt I'd ever concider buying them. If someone let me borrow a coppy for a couple weeks I may clock it and hand it back but thats probably about the end of it. At 03:51 AM 11/4/2006, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: At least they are not taking pre-orders and then not delivering. That would be fraudulent. They just take a long time. Knowing this and the fact their games are not attractive to me is enough for me to not buy their games. * x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-03 07:45]: i can understand why it takes so long in the first place - i think they use c++, which is a much more in-depth, structured language compared to vb, which is what most developers code. but the other side is when they say they have a target date set for september 2005 and they don't tell us what's going on, it's a little hard for people to keep their cool for much longer. -- Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass. -- Isaiah 32:20 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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It's not the waiting for the new titles that gets to me, it's the fact they didn't answer my query about my hearing problem. You know what word of mouth is like, you tell people of your experiences, that message gets past along to the next one and the next and the next etc, then people will feel less inclined to buy from them. At 12:37 AM 4/11/2006, you wrote: Fraudship implies that they won't release the game. If they were a fraud they wouldn't have bothered to release either Grizzly or Chillingham. I'm trying to prove a point here. It took four years for them to release the firstChillingham, so there's no reason why it shouldn't take another four to release the second one. While I agree that that's riddiculous, and whileI do agree that their lack of customer service doesn't exactly bode well for them, let's not jump o conclusions. We've still got another two years before we can legitimately start getting mad. Don' get me wrong, I do agree that the long wait between titles is absolutely riddiculous considering the overall mediocrity of their titles. - Original Message - From: Brandon armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service bavisoft is a joke. Their a frod and i wish they would go out of business because of their lack of good service. Brandon - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service There's also the fact that it takes them four years to release games that, to be quite honest, have little to no replay value even with the other difficulty level. Even the higher difficulty setting doesn't really make for a harder game. Only the fights get harder. Then you have BSC's titles which, unrealistic as many of them are, actually step up the pace of things a considerable amount from diffcuty level one to level 2 and even more on Insane. And yes, Bavisft's prices make their titles that much more undesirable. I understand that in our market you kinda need to charge a litle more, but even so most of the time we're still paying less than we would for the average mainstream game. And while GMA Games' titles are a bit pricy they're still reasonable, particularly since they actually require you to think. They actually challenge you. I still haven't figured out a strategy for completing Sector Five of GMA Tank Commander even after two years. - Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service Hi. I've been watching the chillingham discussion and just thought I'd share my experiences when trying to ask for support from bavisoft. Firstly, a little background information. I have a hearing difficulty, I use a hearing aid, I have no hearing in the right ear, and only limited hearing in the left, but my hearing is pretty good when I have the hearing aid in, or when I am wearing an earpiece attached to the computer using jfw/windoweyes or playing adventure games etc. I borrowed someone's copy of grizley gulch and tried to play it, only to find out that I wasn't able to play it properly because it required you to have the use of both ears. I explained this to bavisoft, and I didn't receive one response at all. That was well over a year ago. As first impressions go, it's not good business, I'm glad I didn't fork out the dough to buy it because I wouldn't have been able to play it. Sorry to come across a bit harsh. Apparently I hear it's the same with chillingham, you need the use of both ears. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web
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Yes, but you have the use of both ears where as I don't. So you right to support and get nothing in return. To the average joe that says a lot about the way they do business. At 02:10 AM 4/11/2006, you wrote: Because they're not frauds. Raul very clearly defines what a fraud actually is. Charging for services or products and not delivering is fraudulent. However, taking three years to make a new product isn't fraudulent, it's just well. It's kind of ridiculous. I have not had a problem with chillingham, so have not had to write to support. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft's lack of customer service
I think this is definitely a valid beef you have against them. It's sad, sometimes people slip through the cracks. Perhaps they could not respond, or perhaps they did but you never got the response, No one can really know for sure. * Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-03 16:06]: It's not the waiting for the new titles that gets to me, it's the fact they didn't answer my query about my hearing problem. You know what word of mouth is like, you tell people of your experiences, that message gets past along to the next one and the next and the next etc, then people will feel less inclined to buy from them. -- Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates. -- Proverbs 31:31 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
