Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
Hi Will, First, I don't want to take USA Games down or close the company, because I truly enjoy writing games most of the time. There are still plenty of gamers out there who appreciate my games even if others do not. Throwing in the towel isn't a solution. That is the James North way of dealing with the situation. Second, as to why I am willing to agree to the demands of Michael, Charles, etc it is a matter of honor and integrety. When it comes to honor and integrety I am like a Klingon. Challenge my honor and integrety then it is reason to do battle to the death. Even to the point of producing a game to clear my name from the stain of the dishonor of being sattled with someone elses unwanted troubles. Remember I took these games on because it was the honorable and right thing to do. I was willing to spend my time and energy to save two games people would have lost money on. As for me wanting to go 3D I honestly, truly, felt it was the right and proper thing to do. You see I wanted to take that old classic Arcade style game, revamp it, and give it a totally modern look and feel to it. I had not expected a civil war over it, and it only proves the blind gamers on this list are not ready to move into the modern era of gaming. As a game croud we are totally stuck in the 80's with side-scrollers and space invader clones, always looking back at retro games, and not moving forward to the future. Though, being old isn't my primary complaint here. My primary issue is that I spent two years on a game that I am now forbidden to release do to a copyright holder who isn't even producing the game any more. will lomas wrote: hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
This situation goes far beyond honor. If the copyright holders didn't force you to stop production, you would have delivered. You are not stealing anyone's money or doing any thing dishonest or underhand, you are just changing the game to what you like better and feel most content in programming. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games Hi Will, First, I don't want to take USA Games down or close the company, because I truly enjoy writing games most of the time. There are still plenty of gamers out there who appreciate my games even if others do not. Throwing in the towel isn't a solution. That is the James North way of dealing with the situation. Second, as to why I am willing to agree to the demands of Michael, Charles, etc it is a matter of honor and integrety. When it comes to honor and integrety I am like a Klingon. Challenge my honor and integrety then it is reason to do battle to the death. Even to the point of producing a game to clear my name from the stain of the dishonor of being sattled with someone elses unwanted troubles. Remember I took these games on because it was the honorable and right thing to do. I was willing to spend my time and energy to save two games people would have lost money on. As for me wanting to go 3D I honestly, truly, felt it was the right and proper thing to do. You see I wanted to take that old classic Arcade style game, revamp it, and give it a totally modern look and feel to it. I had not expected a civil war over it, and it only proves the blind gamers on this list are not ready to move into the modern era of gaming. As a game croud we are totally stuck in the 80's with side-scrollers and space invader clones, always looking back at retro games, and not moving forward to the future. Though, being old isn't my primary complaint here. My primary issue is that I spent two years on a game that I am now forbidden to release do to a copyright holder who isn't even producing the game any more. will lomas wrote: hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
This whole situation is worse that the trouble with tribbles. (grin) Bring the new games on when you're ready, Tom. Looks like I was right when I answered the questions of why you are listening to myself and a few others, as I figured I was. Whatever side scroller comes from USA Games, thanks. Even though it's been driving you beyond nuts, there's no doubt about it, you're! one! dedicated! guy! You've still got my support. --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games Hi Will, First, I don't want to take USA Games down or close the company, because I truly enjoy writing games most of the time. There are still plenty of gamers out there who appreciate my games even if others do not. Throwing in the towel isn't a solution. That is the James North way of dealing with the situation. Second, as to why I am willing to agree to the demands of Michael, Charles, etc it is a matter of honor and integrety. When it comes to honor and integrety I am like a Klingon. Challenge my honor and integrety then it is reason to do battle to the death. Even to the point of producing a game to clear my name from the stain of the dishonor of being sattled with someone elses unwanted troubles. Remember I took these games on because it was the honorable and right thing to do. I was willing to spend my time and energy to save two games people would have lost money on. As for me wanting to go 3D I honestly, truly, felt it was the right and proper thing to do. You see I wanted to take that old classic Arcade style game, revamp it, and give it a totally modern look and feel to it. I had not expected a civil war over it, and it only proves the blind gamers on this list are not ready to move into the modern era of gaming. As a game croud we are totally stuck in the 80's with side-scrollers and space invader clones, always looking back at retro games, and not moving forward to the future. Though, being old isn't my primary complaint here. My primary issue is that I spent two years on a game that I am now forbidden to release do to a copyright holder who isn't even producing the game any more. will lomas wrote: hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
hi i am honst though if we have a side scroller i won't play it since none of us want this type of game except charles sarah and claudio On 22 Mar 2008, at 15:37, Willem wrote: This situation goes far beyond honor. If the copyright holders didn't force you to stop production, you would have delivered. You are not stealing anyone's money or doing any thing dishonest or underhand, you are just changing the game to what you like better and feel most content in programming. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games Hi Will, First, I don't want to take USA Games down or close the company, because I truly enjoy writing games most of the time. There are still plenty of gamers out there who appreciate my games even if others do not. Throwing in the towel isn't a solution. That is the James North way of dealing with the situation. Second, as to why I am willing to agree to the demands of Michael, Charles, etc it is a matter of honor and integrety. When it comes to honor and integrety I am like a Klingon. Challenge my honor and integrety then it is reason to do battle to the death. Even to the point of producing a game to clear my name from the stain of the dishonor of being sattled with someone elses unwanted troubles. Remember I took these games on because it was the honorable and right thing to do. I was willing to spend my time and energy to save two games people would have lost money on. As for me wanting to go 3D I honestly, truly, felt it was the right and proper thing to do. You see I wanted to take that old classic Arcade style game, revamp it, and give it a totally modern look and feel to it. I had not expected a civil war over it, and it only proves the blind gamers on this list are not ready to move into the modern era of gaming. As a game croud we are totally stuck in the 80's with side- scrollers and space invader clones, always looking back at retro games, and not moving forward to the future. Though, being old isn't my primary complaint here. My primary issue is that I spent two years on a game that I am now forbidden to release do to a copyright holder who isn't even producing the game any more. will lomas wrote: hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail
Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
I'd play it but not that much. To test how sucky I am in side scrolers I tried superliam again. I just got on a role, and till level 6 and then the fans, oh man. no way to get those, I jumped but not rightly quite over. Its the reason I have never beaten sl yet. I enjoy the first 5 levels but thats about how far I can get. At 04:49 a.m. 23/03/2008, you wrote: hi i am honst though if we have a side scroller i won't play it since none of us want this type of game except charles sarah and claudio On 22 Mar 2008, at 15:37, Willem wrote: This situation goes far beyond honor. If the copyright holders didn't force you to stop production, you would have delivered. You are not stealing anyone's money or doing any thing dishonest or underhand, you are just changing the game to what you like better and feel most content in programming. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games Hi Will, First, I don't want to take USA Games down or close the company, because I truly enjoy writing games most of the time. There are still plenty of gamers out there who appreciate my games even if others do not. Throwing in the towel isn't a solution. That is the James North way of dealing with the situation. Second, as to why I am willing to agree to the demands of Michael, Charles, etc it is a matter of honor and integrety. When it comes to honor and integrety I am like a Klingon. Challenge my honor and integrety then it is reason to do battle to the death. Even to the point of producing a game to clear my name from the stain of the dishonor of being sattled with someone elses unwanted troubles. Remember I took these games on because it was the honorable and right thing to do. I was willing to spend my time and energy to save two games people would have lost money on. As for me wanting to go 3D I honestly, truly, felt it was the right and proper thing to do. You see I wanted to take that old classic Arcade style game, revamp it, and give it a totally modern look and feel to it. I had not expected a civil war over it, and it only proves the blind gamers on this list are not ready to move into the modern era of gaming. As a game croud we are totally stuck in the 80's with side- scrollers and space invader clones, always looking back at retro games, and not moving forward to the future. Though, being old isn't my primary complaint here. My primary issue is that I spent two years on a game that I am now forbidden to release do to a copyright holder who isn't even producing the game any more. will lomas wrote: hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the
[Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games
He wants to respect what we have to say, probably, in part, because of what we say and how we present it, and partly because he cares about customer service. At least, that's what I think. --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: will lomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: USA Games software mailing list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:36 PM Subject: [Audyssey] final but honest message to thomas ward of USA games hello thomas If you will let me say a few words, please You have a family who care for you and who respect you dearly. If i were you, i would just take your site down tomorrow and leave the blind gaming community. You don't deserve to be in a community, when heartless individuals deem it necissary to cause you upset, grief and heartache, over your plans why do you want to respect what charles and others, want? Sighted companies don't, you should do what you want. but if i were you, i'd just throw in the towel mate, and leave will p.s. It isn't we don't appreciate you but if you are strongwilled mate which i know you are, you would dow hat tom wants, forget what the toddlers think --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
