Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello JOHN, I think I have most of the things, (once dropbox lets me in) so you wouldn't have to go ifarchive. I think either from a to z, or categories. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thursday, 13 August 2015 3:51 am Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If you can give me a snippet of what you're thinking for an organizational system that'd be awesome, maybe 10-20 games in a zip file or something. My concern is that if I'm going to do interactive fiction, step one is going to be going into ftp.ifarchive.org and copying everything down for sorting, which is an absolutely tremendously huge project. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 19:05 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Most (not all) games have proper titles. Although, I can see where you're coming from. PS. As for my message, I'll start fresh, and I'll let you know how I do. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:06 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great - more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more fun. -- From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, Unfortuently i'm not a developer so wouldn't be able to help build the archive , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the community Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
If you can contact me off-list, I'll send along some info on our current status, including where you can get an up-to-date list of the archive contents and recent changes, as well as what currently needs updated info. Note: the above also goes for any list member whose interested in lending a hand to the project - the more the merrier. -- From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:40 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi, Yep, more than happy to help in any way I can, as like I said think it would be a great resource. I don't have many games to contribute , but will look through my 2 PC's and see what I've got and happily send it over. But anything else you want help with such as research or tracking down games I'll be happy to help where I can Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 12 August 2015 23:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great - more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more fun. -- From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, Unfortuently i'm not a developer so wouldn't be able to help build the archive , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the community Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi, Yep, more than happy to help in any way I can, as like I said think it would be a great resource. I don't have many games to contribute , but will look through my 2 PC's and see what I've got and happily send it over. But anything else you want help with such as research or tracking down games I'll be happy to help where I can Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 12 August 2015 23:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great - more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more fun. -- From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, Unfortuently i'm not a developer so wouldn't be able to help build the archive , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the community Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi John, That's a good idea, and I agree. The key generator is out there on the web if someone Googles for it. That said, there is no need to put yourself at risk by offering it yourself. Cheers! On 8/12/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I figure its probably a good idea to say this flat out: I've no intent of offering the bsc code generator via the games archive, or any other keygens with an uncertain legal background. I'm absolutely certain that anybody who felt like dedicating half an hour of their time could find a copy of it, if not multiple. Therefore, while I will offer the demo installers of the games through the archive, I will not be a source for the keygen. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
I figure its probably a good idea to say this flat out: I've no intent of offering the bsc code generator via the games archive, or any other keygens with an uncertain legal background. I'm absolutely certain that anybody who felt like dedicating half an hour of their time could find a copy of it, if not multiple. Therefore, while I will offer the demo installers of the games through the archive, I will not be a source for the keygen. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 19:12 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi Damien, I see where you are going with this, but unfortunately the terms of the license agreement really prohibits free redistribution of the key generator for the BSC titles. While I'd like to agree with you on a personal level as a gamer, but as a list administrator I can't legally allow people to redistribute that key generator given its legal status. So My suggestion is to simply ignore all of the paid BSC titles given their legally in limbo. There are however some BSC titles I think can be freely redistributed like the original Deekout and Bobby's Revenge since they were free to begin with. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com wrote: Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi John, Unfortuently i'm not a developer so wouldn't be able to help build the archive , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the community Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi Damien, I see where you are going with this, but unfortunately the terms of the license agreement really prohibits free redistribution of the key generator for the BSC titles. While I'd like to agree with you on a personal level as a gamer, but as a list administrator I can't legally allow people to redistribute that key generator given its legal status. So My suggestion is to simply ignore all of the paid BSC titles given their legally in limbo. There are however some BSC titles I think can be freely redistributed like the original Deekout and Bobby's Revenge since they were free to begin with. Cheers! On 8/10/15, Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com wrote: Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well I have legal access to the generator justin d sort of abandoned the community anyway and while I won't send his generator round much as I would like to I really have no issue if someone requests a key to give it. Sadly the same goes with q9 I only have 1 key sadly, however the same applies. There will have to be some rules in the archive, no comercial games that are under development or still copywrited or sold!. Ofcause if they are not sold anymore or will not be sold anymore then thats up for descussion. I do think to be honest that for something like this we should make it that if the developer can be contacted and is relyable to a point or is active or is not dead etc that that licence still applies. Ofcause if someone challenges us on something thats fine but I don't see it fair if I lets say am a dev that decides to close up shop or I don't respond to mail or I simply am not active at all and or die or something but my games are copywrited to me or a non me and then someone can't use em. If I ever make something I think my licences and all registrations will work till I die, after that I can't really complain if someone cracks it so whats the point. On 11/08/2015 11:05 a.m., john wrote: My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know who has legal access to it. I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk, especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you want then I want to be a lot more careful. I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also don't want to get sued. My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be caucious. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:28 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail
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also while there were archives a lot of older games will not work with windows current or later versions so may not work anyway. On 11/08/2015 8:59 a.m., john wrote: Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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wow ambcious. Ok, what exactly do you want, I have a lot of games, some of them are full versions like grail to the thief so obviously I can't archive those. I have a lot of old dos games, therre is jims games which are mirrored now. There are others, sadly I think us guys at realitysoftware have abandoned a lot of our old code but I may have some of it, well sadly not the really old stuff. I have quite a few old z codes, and a lot of agt and tads games and their compilers, if you are on the dosbox list you probably saw me upload that entire archive and its been up here a few times. How would the request system work, I can't store every game, so we would need some sort of server or servers. who would fund the prroject or would people contribute to it. I could probably give about 2-10 bucks every so often but with sertain family funding going away later this year I can't just chuck cash at the project. I have seen other projects on bt syncs, dropboxes, and ftp sites publicly accessable get full of viruses, worms and trogens to deleted files and the like to people hacking computers with stuff inside files though. I guess I'd be happy to submit to it but I don't have much of a net connection data wize the 30gb cap is often overloaded with online streams and I don't want to overload it myself with extranious data. On 11/08/2015 8:59 a.m., john wrote: Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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If you can give me a snippet of what you're thinking for an organizational system that'd be awesome, maybe 10-20 games in a zip file or something. My concern is that if I'm going to do interactive fiction, step one is going to be going into ftp.ifarchive.org and copying everything down for sorting, which is an absolutely tremendously huge project. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 19:05 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Most (not all) games have proper titles. Although, I can see where you're coming from. PS. As for my message, I'll start fresh, and I'll let you know how I do. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:06 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few
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Hello, I think this would be a great idea! Has anyone checked out https://archive.org/ to see if they could help? Otherwise we could ask Aprone if he would be willing to host them, we could setup an amazon s3 bucket that is $1 a month every 100 gig, or we could see if we can use github and have a branch for each game and have a release on each branch. It is also possible to use amazon s3 as a git repository, so we could create a way for people to submit a game and an html page with each game. But I think this is a problem for current developers. I think it may be worth creating a little repository for current developers to host their games as well as hosting games from older developers who aren't hosting anymore. I think I would be interested in setting something like this up. thanks, Brandon Keith Biggs http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/ On 8/10/2015 10:59 PM, john wrote: Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers
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If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http
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Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Sent from a Braille Sense --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
[Audyssey] game archive project?
Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages
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My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know who has legal access to it. I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk, especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you want then I want to be a lot more careful. I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also don't want to get sued. My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be caucious. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:28 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail
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Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Hello, Most (not all) games have proper titles. Although, I can see where you're coming from. PS. As for my message, I'll start fresh, and I'll let you know how I do. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:06 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a way that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one of them. Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should work. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be a work in progress for quite a while. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello, Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me, if I'm needed. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that. I'd probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because there's so many), but I do want to have them represented. -- From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16 To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hello John, If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games. :) I mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help programming, though. - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do
Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?
Oh awww darn! I had a pretty good selection oh well if not all but all of the IF titles, twice. Guess what? Both my desktops got whammed one with graphic parn out of nowhere and the other went silent after letting fam use it in my absence. I could've contributed. Well, I'd love to see this come to fruition because I became frustrated trying to find installers in the past. Itd be great to be able to ask for a game and get a working direct executable link. On 8/10/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know who has legal access to it. I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk, especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you want then I want to be a lot more careful. I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also don't want to get sued. My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be caucious. -- From: Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:28 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi John, I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be willing to contribute what I have. One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned, and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can understand it from both points of view. Cheers. Damien. -Original Message- From: john Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project? Hi list, Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a copy. As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request. My current vision for this project is something like the following: *The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and different sounds). *Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined). *Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not that comprehensive). I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this. Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain. Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore. How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
