Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-11-05 Thread shaun everiss
Well I never had much success with any windows game bar pinball some 
what but lets face it the inbuilt ms games were never for us anyway.


At 10:22 a.m. 31/10/2014, you wrote:
all the windows8 games are now those new metro apps. also i 
expreienced frequent computer freezes, 100% CPU useage and 
application compatibility issues in win8 and win8.1.


On 10/30/2014 4:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Are you certain of this? I'm a bit surprised why Microsoft's games
would be accessible in Windows 7 and then be totally inaccessible in
Windows 8. If so it sounds like someone should backup the Windows 7
games before upgrading to Windows 8 in order to maximize
accessibility.

Cheers!


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no they are not accessible at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-11-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Well, they weren't really fully accessible until Windows 7, but even
so saying the Microsoft games were never for us totally ignores the
good access work Microsoft did to make those games accessible in
Windows 7. Not sure where you get your attitude, but I find your
comments a bit rude and slightly inflammatory in light of the
improvements in accessibility regarding those games. Do you always put
people down even when they make improvements in a product in your
favor?

Cheers!


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 Well I never had much success with any windows game bar pinball some
 what but lets face it the inbuilt ms games were never for us anyway.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-11-05 Thread shaun everiss
To be honest tom I have ignored the games for so long its never 
ocured to me to even bother.


At 06:31 a.m. 6/11/2014, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Well, they weren't really fully accessible until Windows 7, but even
so saying the Microsoft games were never for us totally ignores the
good access work Microsoft did to make those games accessible in
Windows 7. Not sure where you get your attitude, but I find your
comments a bit rude and slightly inflammatory in light of the
improvements in accessibility regarding those games. Do you always put
people down even when they make improvements in a product in your
favor?

Cheers!


On 10/30/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well I never had much success with any windows game bar pinball some
 what but lets face it the inbuilt ms games were never for us anyway.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-11-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Well, and that is precisely the problem. You come on this list acting
as though you are experienced, have a lot of knowledge, that you know
things you actually don't, and then someone has to correct you when
you are wrong. You frequently assume things you don't know for
certain, state your opinion, and then someone else ends up having to
correct the errors in your comments. A lot of it comes down to the
fact it hadn't occurred to you to verify your facts like the
accessibility of the Windows 7 games. You just form an opinion based
on older versions of the program and just assume it holds true for
later versions of it as well. So please let this be a reminder to
verify facts before just assuming your information is factual.

Cheers!


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 To be honest tom I have ignored the games for so long its never
 ocured to me to even bother.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Dacia Cole
Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

thanks,

Dacia

On 10/30/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 However, those are not the games made by Microsoft that come packaged with
 Windows, which are the ones being asked about.  They are alternatives.

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 On the plus side, I believe spoonbill at
 http://www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm have accessible
 versions of most, if not all the card and basic puzzle games that have
 come with versions of Windows, such as frecell Solitare, penguin solitare,

 Hearts and Mine sweeper.

 I don't believe Ian has done spades yet, though he well might in the
 future.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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 no they are not accessible at all.

 On 10/30/2014 4:38 AM, ishan dhami wrote:
 Hi all I want to know the accessibility of windows games produced by
 Microsoft
 are they accessible in win 8 with a screenreader?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Sure. I like the Spoonbill games as well. Although, my basic point was
they are not exactly a one to one replacement for the Microsoft games.
However, for someone not running Windows 7 they are a decent enough
alternative and are free.

While I do know the BA Card Room exists the problem there is that it
is a paid service where the Microsoft games are free to play. I don't
know of many blind players that play them online, but it is an option
for those who are into that sort of thing.

At any rate I'm sure you are right. Sooner or later Drafts and Spades
will be add to Ian's Spoonbill games, because he has pretty much
written everything else in the card and puzzle genre. It is easy to
assume he'll get around to developing accessible versions of those two
as well.

Cheers!


On 10/30/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Tom.

 that's true about online games, though it's worth noting there is online
 accessible hearts and spaades in blind adrenaline cardroom, Online draughts

 (checkers), in the Quentin C playroom, and and online backgammon in pontes
 backgammon, still I take your point.

 I suspect draughts and spades will be added to the spoonbill lineup at some

 point in the future. Also I confess I like the spoonbill games especially
 their crossword puzzle. they may not have online play but I find them very
 well designed, although I do wish their computer opponents were a little
 more challenging at hearts :D.

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dacia,

Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
with Jaws as well.

Cheers!


On 10/31/14, Dacia Cole dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
 screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

 thanks,

 Dacia


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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. The question was the accessibility
of the Microsoft games for Windows 8 and 8.1 not if there were
alternatives out there. :D

Cheers!


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 However, those are not the games made by Microsoft that come packaged with
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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread john
If we're talking about windows 7, they aught to work with any screen reader 
out there.

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Hi Dacia,

Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
with Jaws as well.

Cheers!


On 10/31/14, Dacia Cole dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
 screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

 thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Dacia Cole
Besides Hearts and Mine Sweeper which I'm trying to figure out how to
play, which other ones are accessible?

thanks,

Dacia

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 If we're talking about windows 7, they aught to work with any screen reader

 out there.

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 Hi Dacia,

 Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
 know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
 with Jaws as well.

 Cheers!


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 Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dacia,

All of the card games like Hearts, Solitaire, Spider Solitaire,
Spades, and FreeCell are all accessible. Checkers and Backgammon are
also accessible. I haven't tried Chess and Mahjong but they are worth
checking out since all of the other Microsoft games were reasonably
accessible with a screen reader on Windows 7.

Cheers!




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 Besides Hearts and Mine Sweeper which I'm trying to figure out how to
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 thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Dacia Cole
What is the point of Free Sell and how do you play it?  Also, is Mine
Sweeper the key to that looking for concealed tiles and clearing them
out?

Dacia

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 Hi Dacia,

 All of the card games like Hearts, Solitaire, Spider Solitaire,
 Spades, and FreeCell are all accessible. Checkers and Backgammon are
 also accessible. I haven't tried Chess and Mahjong but they are worth
 checking out since all of the other Microsoft games were reasonably
 accessible with a screen reader on Windows 7.

 Cheers!




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 Besides Hearts and Mine Sweeper which I'm trying to figure out how to
 play, which other ones are accessible?

 thanks,

 Dacia

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Charles Rivard
Free Cell is a form of Solitaire.  There are an additional set of 4 spaces 
into which you can move a pile of upturned cards for future use.  Then, you 
turn the top card in the remainder of that stack face up.  If you have 4 
piles of upturned cards in these 4 extra spaces, you empty one of those 
spaces by moving them back onto the main stacks.  For example, if the bottom 
card of one of those piles in safety is a black 3, you can move that pile 
back onto a red 2.  Then, you have a free cell into which you can move 
another stack when a play off the main stacks or the top face up card in the 
discard pile cannot be used.


Mine Sweeper is a game in which all tiles are not marked.  It on, I think, a 
10 by 10 grid.  Mines are randomly placed on squares.  Reveal a square, and, 
by deduction, try to not reveal a square that has a mine on it.  When you 
reveal a squares, all of the unmined adjacent squares are revealed.  Each 
unmined square has the number of mines that are in adjacent squares.  If you 
reveal the top left square, and all of the top row becomes revealed, they 
are all safe.  If the top left square has a 1 in it, you know that there is 
a mine directly below, or southeast of that top left square.  If you reveal 
the square directly below, or south, of the top left square, and there is a 
1 in that square, you know that the square to your right is mined.  You have 
found the first mine, and can flag it as being mined.  Continue playing 
until you have either correctly flagged all of the mined squares or have 
blown up by stepping onto a mine, in which case, you have lost the game.


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What is the point of Free Sell and how do you play it?  Also, is Mine
Sweeper the key to that looking for concealed tiles and clearing them
out?

Dacia

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Hi Dacia,

All of the card games like Hearts, Solitaire, Spider Solitaire,
Spades, and FreeCell are all accessible. Checkers and Backgammon are
also accessible. I haven't tried Chess and Mahjong but they are worth
checking out since all of the other Microsoft games were reasonably
accessible with a screen reader on Windows 7.

Cheers!




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Besides Hearts and Mine Sweeper which I'm trying to figure out how to
play, which other ones are accessible?

thanks,

Dacia


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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Charles Rivard

Using Windows XP Pro with JAWS 15, the Windows games are not accessible.

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Hi Dacia,

Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
with Jaws as well.

Cheers!


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Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

thanks,

Dacia



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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread tim

They never where on xp.

At 01:53 PM 10/31/2014, you wrote:

Using Windows XP Pro with JAWS 15, the Windows games are not accessible.

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Hi Dacia,

Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
with Jaws as well.

Cheers!


On 10/31/14, Dacia Cole dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

That's because the version of the games that come with XP are not and
never were accessible. In order to get the accessible Microsoft games
you need Windows Vista or Windows 7.

Cheers!


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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread dark
Hay, I don't believe it, an actual improvement in post xp windows that makes 
sense! Still not worth the crudditude of using the thing or having to run 
virtual xp, but I'll grant it is a real bennifit for once that makes sense 
to me.


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Hi Charles,

That's because the version of the games that come with XP are not and
never were accessible. In order to get the accessible Microsoft games
you need Windows Vista or Windows 7.

Cheers!


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Using Windows XP Pro with JAWS 15, the Windows games are not accessible.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread john
All of them should be accessible, presuming that you know how to play the 
game beforehand. The games don't come with tutorials other than the windows 
help, so I would recommend having a working knowledge of them before you 
start trying to play them. That said, its perfectly possible to play the 
games if you know how they work.

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Besides Hearts and Mine Sweeper which I'm trying to figure out how to
play, which other ones are accessible?

thanks,

Dacia

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 If we're talking about windows 7, they aught to work with any screen 
 reader

 out there.

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 Hi Dacia,

 Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
 know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
 with Jaws as well.

 Cheers!


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 Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
 screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

 thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread john
Xp and earlier games are not accessible, because the games are built around 
purely images. Windows 7 is all buttons.

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Using Windows XP Pro with JAWS 15, the Windows games are not accessible.

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 Hi Dacia,

 Not sure about Jaws since I haven't used Jaws myself in years. I do
 know the games work with Window-Eyes and am only guessing they work
 with Jaws as well.

 Cheers!


 On 10/31/14, Dacia Cole dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are the Windows games that are accessible accessible with the JAWS
 screen reader or do you have to use another screen reader if so, what?

 thanks,

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread john
I hope you've got really good backups of your os  if you're using xp for 
your primary box :)

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Hay, I don't believe it, an actual improvement in post xp windows that makes
sense! Still not worth the crudditude of using the thing or having to run
virtual xp, but I'll grant it is a real bennifit for once that makes sense
to me.

Beware the grue!

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 Hi Charles,

 That's because the version of the games that come with XP are not and
 never were accessible. In order to get the accessible Microsoft games
 you need Windows Vista or Windows 7.

 Cheers!


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 Using Windows XP Pro with JAWS 15, the Windows games are not accessible.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John,

For the most part that is true. Although, I do recall a number of
years ago someone releasing set files for Window-Eyes that were
compatible with FreeCell, Solitaire, and a couple of the other games
for XP. So it is possible to access the XP version of those games, but
I don't know of any other screen reader besides Window-eyes that ever
supported them because they were purely graphical. So for the most
part the XP version of those games aren't accessible. With the Windows
7 version of the games though everything has buttons and other
standard UI elements accessible to any and all screen readers.

Cheers!


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 Xp and earlier games are not accessible, because the games are built around

 purely images. Windows 7 is all buttons.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Glad you find something redeeming about Windows 7. Especially, since
you tend to have a very big chip on your shoulder where modern Windows
is concerned. However, let's not go there again. We have had this
argument more times than I can count and I personally choose not to go
there any more. :D

Cheers!



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[Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread ishan dhami
Hi all I want to know the accessibility of windows games produced by Microsoft
are they accessible in win 8 with a screenreader?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Jacob Kruger
No idea about windows8, but, in windows7, they are pretty playable, and that 
includes chess, minesweeper, and the card games - some of the time with 
regards to them anyway.


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Hi all I want to know the accessibility of windows games produced by 
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are they accessible in win 8 with a screenreader?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan,

Honestly I haven't tried. I know the card games that come with Windows
7 are accessible so it is possible the games for Windows 8 and 8.1 are
accessible as well. Anyone else actually try this?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Josh k

no they are not accessible at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
They were in Windows 7 not sure about 8 or 8.1.
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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread john
Not sure about 8, but they sure are in 7.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread dark
On the plus side, I believe spoonbill at 
http://www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm have accessible versions 
of most, if not all the card and basic puzzle games that have come with 
versions of Windows, such as frecell Solitare, penguin solitare, Hearts and 
Mine sweeper.


I don't believe Ian has done spades yet, though he well might in the future.

Beware the grue!

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no they are not accessible at all.

On 10/30/2014 4:38 AM, ishan dhami wrote:
Hi all I want to know the accessibility of windows games produced by 
Microsoft

are they accessible in win 8 with a screenreader?

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Actually, I can think of a number of games that comes with modern
Windows that Spoonbill do not have versions for such as Backgammon,
Checkers, Mahjong, and not sure if they have a version of Spades yet
either. Plus a lot of the Microsoft games for Windows aren't
exclusively stand alone games any more. Backgammon, Hearts, Spades,
etc can be played online against a human opponent which also makes a
difference when recommending the Spoonbill games as an alternative
since their games are stand alone games with no online play.

Cheers!


On 10/30/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 On the plus side, I believe spoonbill at
 http://www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm have accessible versions

 of most, if not all the card and basic puzzle games that have come with
 versions of Windows, such as frecell Solitare, penguin solitare, Hearts and

 Mine sweeper.

 I don't believe Ian has done spades yet, though he well might in the
 future.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh,

Are you certain of this? I'm a bit surprised why Microsoft's games
would be accessible in Windows 7 and then be totally inaccessible in
Windows 8. If so it sounds like someone should backup the Windows 7
games before upgrading to Windows 8 in order to maximize
accessibility.

Cheers!


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 no they are not accessible at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

that's true about online games, though it's worth noting there is online 
accessible hearts and spaades in blind adrenaline cardroom, Online draughts 
(checkers), in the Quentin C playroom, and and online backgammon in pontes 
backgammon, still I take your point.


I suspect draughts and spades will be added to the spoonbill lineup at some 
point in the future. Also I confess I like the spoonbill games especially 
their crossword puzzle. they may not have online play but I find them very 
well designed, although I do wish their computer opponents were a little 
more challenging at hearts :D.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Josh k
all the windows8 games are now those new metro apps. also i expreienced 
frequent computer freezes, 100% CPU useage and application compatibility 
issues in win8 and win8.1.


On 10/30/2014 4:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Are you certain of this? I'm a bit surprised why Microsoft's games
would be accessible in Windows 7 and then be totally inaccessible in
Windows 8. If so it sounds like someone should backup the Windows 7
games before upgrading to Windows 8 in order to maximize
accessibility.

Cheers!


On 10/30/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

no they are not accessible at all.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Dacia Cole
Hi, are they accessible with jaws or does it require some vision?


Dacia

On 10/30/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 all the windows8 games are now those new metro apps. also i expreienced
 frequent computer freezes, 100% CPU useage and application compatibility
 issues in win8 and win8.1.

 On 10/30/2014 4:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Josh,

 Are you certain of this? I'm a bit surprised why Microsoft's games
 would be accessible in Windows 7 and then be totally inaccessible in
 Windows 8. If so it sounds like someone should backup the Windows 7
 games before upgrading to Windows 8 in order to maximize
 accessibility.

 Cheers!


 On 10/30/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 no they are not accessible at all.
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Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft

2014-10-30 Thread Charles Rivard
However, those are not the games made by Microsoft that come packaged with 
Windows, which are the ones being asked about.  They are alternatives.


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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft


On the plus side, I believe spoonbill at 
http://www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm have accessible 
versions of most, if not all the card and basic puzzle games that have 
come with versions of Windows, such as frecell Solitare, penguin solitare, 
Hearts and Mine sweeper.


I don't believe Ian has done spades yet, though he well might in the 
future.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
- Original Message - 
From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows games of microsoft



no they are not accessible at all.

On 10/30/2014 4:38 AM, ishan dhami wrote:
Hi all I want to know the accessibility of windows games produced by 
Microsoft

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