Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hi, Not sure about Second Life specifically, but generally I've had good results playing internet based games like Sryth in Safari on the Mac and with Firefox in Linux. So you might want to give it a try. The only way to know for sure to is to do it. Cheers! On 5/3/2012 12:20 PM, Laurel wrote: Somebody told me about Second Life, which is a virtual game on the internet. Does anybody know how accessible that is? Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hi Ben, Not only that, but the majority of mainstream games ported to Mac usually are run through a game emulator like Cider which provides commercial game devs with an easy way to port games from Windows to Mac. However, we all know how unsuccessful screen readers have been in accessing onscreen information with free emulators like Dosbox, Wine, etc and I don't see commercial emulators like Cider or Cediga being any different since they are essentually commercial versions of Wine with commercial libraries for running games on Mac, Linux, and so on. There really is no way to access information from a game being emulated even if all it is showing is straight text with no graphics let alone a highly graphical 3d game etc. Cheers! On 5/2/2012 3:43 PM, Ben wrote: No, they mostly aren't since they use graphical menus as well, excelpt in a few rare cases. Only way I'm afraid to find out if such games are actually playable for us is to buy and try. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Somebody told me about Second Life, which is a virtual game on the internet. Does anybody know how accessible that is? Laurel and Stockard On 5/3/12, Thomas Ward wrote: > > Hi Laurel, > > Well, the only way to know for sure is to buy them and try them, but I > can say 99% of the time they won't be accessible. Not only do you have > to worry about the fact that things like the menus etc won't talk most > of the games out there for Mac are emulated. That is that they are run > through a specific Windows game emulator like Cider which doesn't > communicate onscreen information to VoiceOver. This pretty much insures > the fact that even if the display was presenting straight text you > couldn't read it with VoiceOver because Cider like all emulators doesn't > expose the onscreen information to the accessibility APIs. > > Plus keep in mind mainstream gaming is highly graphical in the first > place. Most first person, third person, and strategy games are > inaccessible because they require sighted assistance in aiming weapons, > moving around the game world, and so on. So you are pretty much out of > luck if you are thinking of going down the mainstream gaming route. > > Cheers! > > On 5/2/2012 1:24 PM, Laurel wrote: >> I have alot of friends that play stuff like battle front, and sims 3 >> and all on their macs. Is there a way to find out if commercial games >> like these happen to be accessible? >> Laurel and Stockard > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hi Laurel, Well, the only way to know for sure is to buy them and try them, but I can say 99% of the time they won't be accessible. Not only do you have to worry about the fact that things like the menus etc won't talk most of the games out there for Mac are emulated. That is that they are run through a specific Windows game emulator like Cider which doesn't communicate onscreen information to VoiceOver. This pretty much insures the fact that even if the display was presenting straight text you couldn't read it with VoiceOver because Cider like all emulators doesn't expose the onscreen information to the accessibility APIs. Plus keep in mind mainstream gaming is highly graphical in the first place. Most first person, third person, and strategy games are inaccessible because they require sighted assistance in aiming weapons, moving around the game world, and so on. So you are pretty much out of luck if you are thinking of going down the mainstream gaming route. Cheers! On 5/2/2012 1:24 PM, Laurel wrote: I have alot of friends that play stuff like battle front, and sims 3 and all on their macs. Is there a way to find out if commercial games like these happen to be accessible? Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hi Shaun, I believe there is a version of Scare for Mac OS. So Adrift games will run on Mac, but unfortunately as with the Linux version of Scare it doesn't have the full range of features of Windows Adrift. Things like the combat system doesn't work properly on non-Windows platforms. G On 5/2/2012 3:56 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Hmmm not sure, my advise is to try stuff that is online. inform stuff I think frotz has a mac runner, not sure about the rest. tads may, hugo may to not sure. glulx probably does. adrift doesn't though scare runner may be mac complient. Other than that get something like vm player ofr vm fusion or bootcamp or other vm platform and load win xp on it, or 7 32 bit or whatever. its w what a lot did not sure about now though. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
No, they mostly aren't since they use graphical menus as well, excelpt in a few rare cases. Only way I'm afraid to find out if such games are actually playable for us is to buy and try. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: 02 May 2012 18:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over? I have alot of friends that play stuff like battle front, and sims 3 and all on their macs. Is there a way to find out if commercial games like these happen to be accessible? Laurel and Stockard On 5/2/12, fred olver wrote: > For all of your Apple questions regarding games, please go to > http://www.applevis.com > > Fred Olver > > - Original Message - > From: "Laurel" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:06 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over? > > >> Hi all, >> I just bought a macbook pro. I wanna know if there are any accessible >> games out there that work on mac and are good with voice over. I don't >> care if they are free or paid, but I don't know where to go to find >> this type of info. I want good stuff too. /grins/ Also, do any of the >> main stream games work with voice over, you know mac games created for >> sighted users that happen to be pretty accessible? >> Thanks, >> Laurel and Stockard >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4973 - Release Date: 05/02/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4973 - Release Date: 05/02/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
I have alot of friends that play stuff like battle front, and sims 3 and all on their macs. Is there a way to find out if commercial games like these happen to be accessible? Laurel and Stockard On 5/2/12, fred olver wrote: > For all of your Apple questions regarding games, please go to > http://www.applevis.com > > Fred Olver > > - Original Message - > From: "Laurel" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:06 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over? > > >> Hi all, >> I just bought a macbook pro. I wanna know if there are any accessible >> games out there that work on mac and are good with voice over. I don't >> care if they are free or paid, but I don't know where to go to find >> this type of info. I want good stuff too. /grins/ Also, do any of the >> main stream games work with voice over, you know mac games created for >> sighted users that happen to be pretty accessible? >> Thanks, >> Laurel and Stockard >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
For all of your Apple questions regarding games, please go to http://www.applevis.com Fred Olver - Original Message - From: "Laurel" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over? > Hi all, > I just bought a macbook pro. I wanna know if there are any accessible > games out there that work on mac and are good with voice over. I don't > care if they are free or paid, but I don't know where to go to find > this type of info. I want good stuff too. /grins/ Also, do any of the > main stream games work with voice over, you know mac games created for > sighted users that happen to be pretty accessible? > Thanks, > Laurel and Stockard > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hmmm not sure, my advise is to try stuff that is online. inform stuff I think frotz has a mac runner, not sure about the rest. tads may, hugo may to not sure. glulx probably does. adrift doesn't though scare runner may be mac complient. Other than that get something like vm player ofr vm fusion or bootcamp or other vm platform and load win xp on it, or 7 32 bit or whatever. its w what a lot did not sure about now though. At 08:06 p.m. 1/05/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi all, I just bought a macbook pro. I wanna know if there are any accessible games out there that work on mac and are good with voice over. I don't care if they are free or paid, but I don't know where to go to find this type of info. I want good stuff too. /grins/ Also, do any of the main stream games work with voice over, you know mac games created for sighted users that happen to be pretty accessible? Thanks, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Hi Laurel, I have a list of accessible Mac games but haven't updated it since October 8, 2009. http://www.pcsgames.net/MacGame-co.htm - Original Message - From: "Laurel" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over? Hi all, I just bought a macbook pro. I wanna know if there are any accessible games out there that work on mac and are good with voice over. I don't care if they are free or paid, but I don't know where to go to find this type of info. I want good stuff too. /grins/ Also, do any of the main stream games work with voice over, you know mac games created for sighted users that happen to be pretty accessible? Thanks, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] accessible games for the Mac and voice over?
Yes if you go to www.audiogames.net you will find some games for the Mac. Yes there are a couple of main stream games that are accessible for the blind, one of the games is call Dragon Age Origins, and I believe that there is a Star Wars game that is accessible aswell. I myself is trying to find more games for the Mac so I can switch between my PC and Mac computer. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
