Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
I recall once that a smith made a twelve-foot ceremonial sword in Japan. It was, of course, fully capable of being used, but really. A twelve-foot sword? Imagine trying to block incoming blows with that, even if you could lift it and swing with any finesce at all. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/31/12, Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca wrote: Agree with all you pointed out- match my own knowledge on the matter. Most big heavy swords we see in fantasy titles today were mostly just ceremonial when they were used at all- that Japanese nodachi for example- it's really too unwieldy to be of any real use. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
Well, Japanese history especially swordsmanship history is filled with nodachi people... which is odd, because I have a lot of the same conclusions. 12 feet maybe not, but keep in mind that long for a katana isn't exactly long for other swords... a typical nodachi would have the length of a claymore or a zweihander, typically about 5 feet was considered long, since your average Katana is only about 3 including the tsuka or hilt. - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com To: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons I recall once that a smith made a twelve-foot ceremonial sword in Japan. It was, of course, fully capable of being used, but really. A twelve-foot sword? Imagine trying to block incoming blows with that, even if you could lift it and swing with any finesce at all. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/31/12, Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca wrote: Agree with all you pointed out- match my own knowledge on the matter. Most big heavy swords we see in fantasy titles today were mostly just ceremonial when they were used at all- that Japanese nodachi for example- it's really too unwieldy to be of any real use. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Take into consideration too, that back then, Japanese people were extremely small- just look at the armor displays in museum, armor worn by famed Samurai- most of these look to fit people under five feet tall lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
Right. This is why I say that a nodachi didn't necessarily have to be long and unwieldy. We may find five feet long katana a hard thing to picture, but to people back then it was pretty big... and Naginata were six or seven feet long in and of themselves, and were still usable by samurai. So a nodachi that wsas five feet long doesn't seem too impossible to me. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Take into consideration too, that back then, Japanese people were extremely small- just look at the armor displays in museum, armor worn by famed Samurai- most of these look to fit people under five feet tall lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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A short sword was about a pound and a half, a standard arming sword (what we call a longsword in our misconception) was about five, katana were about that much, great swords were about ten or fifteen, once steel was involved. Armor was either chain, plate, or leather-based, plate is widely misconceived. There was heavy plate, but most of it was really not as thick as we often think. Most plate was really quite thin and used to deflect slashes with other armor underneath, so plate suits could be as light as thirty pounds. There were heavy heavy suits, but they fell out of popularity for the reasons you all are mentioning. The trouble is that real armor and weapons don't balance well for game or interest purposes. I am guilty of this, myself, but really, there were good melee weapons and bad ones, and many weapons just aren't meant to be balanced, no matter what I or developers or movie-goers might wish. Essentially, I don't doubt that there were forty pound swords, but they were surely not common, and claymores and great swords were usually half that at most. I hope I'm not seeming arrogant, and I'm honestly writing this while somewhat distracted, so this may seem discombobulated. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/29/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Swords and knives mostly. I like them because they're more elegant... an axe is savage and undeniably cool though. lol. But I like Asian-style swords because of the designs, and the way they're used is pretty interesting as well. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons same here. Swords, knives, axes, Keith - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons That would be about right. And as to the 20 kg sword, I think he said only the strongest men could do that.. otherwise it was a two-handed weapon. Personally I prefer oriental weapons, though I do have a fascination with swords of any type... lol. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
Well, I can confirm for sure that the heaviest sharp Katana I've scene is about five pounds, yes. Maybe a touch under it... I won't say anymore though other than that all you're saying makes sense based off what research I've done and what little I've scene. But being a practioner of a Japanese swordsmanship style, the only sword I have any absolute knowledge on is the Katana. - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A short sword was about a pound and a half, a standard arming sword (what we call a longsword in our misconception) was about five, katana were about that much, great swords were about ten or fifteen, once steel was involved. Armor was either chain, plate, or leather-based, plate is widely misconceived. There was heavy plate, but most of it was really not as thick as we often think. Most plate was really quite thin and used to deflect slashes with other armor underneath, so plate suits could be as light as thirty pounds. There were heavy heavy suits, but they fell out of popularity for the reasons you all are mentioning. The trouble is that real armor and weapons don't balance well for game or interest purposes. I am guilty of this, myself, but really, there were good melee weapons and bad ones, and many weapons just aren't meant to be balanced, no matter what I or developers or movie-goers might wish. Essentially, I don't doubt that there were forty pound swords, but they were surely not common, and claymores and great swords were usually half that at most. I hope I'm not seeming arrogant, and I'm honestly writing this while somewhat distracted, so this may seem discombobulated. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/29/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Swords and knives mostly. I like them because they're more elegant... an axe is savage and undeniably cool though. lol. But I like Asian-style swords because of the designs, and the way they're used is pretty interesting as well. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons same here. Swords, knives, axes, Keith - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons That would be about right. And as to the 20 kg sword, I think he said only the strongest men could do that.. otherwise it was a two-handed weapon. Personally I prefer oriental weapons, though I do have a fascination with swords of any type... lol. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
Agree with all you pointed out- match my own knowledge on the matter. Most big heavy swords we see in fantasy titles today were mostly just ceremonial when they were used at all- that Japanese nodachi for example- it's really too unwieldy to be of any real use. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
That would be about right. And as to the 20 kg sword, I think he said only the strongest men could do that.. otherwise it was a two-handed weapon. Personally I prefer oriental weapons, though I do have a fascination with swords of any type... lol. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
I don't think I really realized how heavy it was until you said 40 pounds... lol. 40 pounds is something I can imagine a lot better than 20 kg... don't even remember the last time I used that for measuring weight. But aren't there other weapons which were easily that heavy? The Japanese kanabo which is essentially a spiked mace is average about 30 pounds. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Jim, Yeah, no kidding. That's quite a lot. Just off the top of my head that is a little over 40 pounds in the SAE measurements if memory serves. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Yeah, something like that. I'm not an expert on ancient weaponry, but a lot of those weapons and armor, especially the iron weapons, were extremely heavy. Nights, for example, were really too heavy for combat on foot and that's why they rode horses because it was the only way to move a 200 pound man with a good hundred pounds of armor and weapons over the battlefield. You knock him down he is not going to get up unless he is as strong as Hercules. On 1/29/12, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think I really realized how heavy it was until you said 40 pounds... lol. 40 pounds is something I can imagine a lot better than 20 kg... don't even remember the last time I used that for measuring weight. But aren't there other weapons which were easily that heavy? The Japanese kanabo which is essentially a spiked mace is average about 30 pounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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And that's why it wasn't uncomon for them to fall off the horse and break something vital- ending up dead that way lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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same here. Swords, knives, axes, Keith - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons That would be about right. And as to the 20 kg sword, I think he said only the strongest men could do that.. otherwise it was a two-handed weapon. Personally I prefer oriental weapons, though I do have a fascination with swords of any type... lol. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons
Swords and knives mostly. I like them because they're more elegant... an axe is savage and undeniably cool though. lol. But I like Asian-style swords because of the designs, and the way they're used is pretty interesting as well. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons same here. Swords, knives, axes, Keith - Original Message - From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons That would be about right. And as to the 20 kg sword, I think he said only the strongest men could do that.. otherwise it was a two-handed weapon. Personally I prefer oriental weapons, though I do have a fascination with swords of any type... lol. - Original Message - From: Keith S hea...@mchsi.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] medieval weapons A typical knight's broad sword weighed about 3 pounds. So, I'm guessing with would be 1.4 kg? Keith - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Milos Przic Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:22 AM Subject: [Audyssey] medieval weapons Hi Milos, Yep, a 20 kg sword sounds like allot of weapon to be wielding in a prolonged battle. Especially since, like you said, it is usually wielded in one hand with a shield in the other hand. I do believe that a standard sledgehammer is 4 or 5 kg. BFN Jim I bought some fish oil, because my fish is squeaky. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
