Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsalesof Legacy games
If this were true, there would be no sound problems with games developed for the blind, but there are. Outlook Express does not work on Windows Vista and above. Pulldown menus are no longer used. And you say these issues can be fixed with just a little work? How. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsalesof Legacy games I don't want to get into a detailed discussion, but everything you listed below is completely fixable with a little effort. Just saying. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuing salesof Legacy games I don't know much about the technical reasoning, but I don't know why, for example, the ribbon system has replaced the pulldown menus, why sounds are handled in such a way that games no longer work and recording of music cannot be done as it used to be, and why perfectly user friendly Email clients such as Outlook Express are replaced by less user friendly ones, and that sort of stuff. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games Hi Dark, Weather or not Microsoft deserves to be shot over dropping support for Visual Basic 6 is debatable. I seriously wish you would become an informed user and study the technical reasons why Microsoft chose to discontinue certain technologies rather than just blaming them for it. Then again, I doubt it would matter in your case. I don't want to be rude or insulting, but it seems that you hate Microsoft, have some desire to blame them for everything they do, and weather they do something for a good reason or a bad reason they are always, always, always the bad guy. I don't know what your personal bias is, but I find your comments like Microsoft should be shot really gets up my nose, because it is assuming you know more than them about the technical ins and outs of their technology. This isn't about ethics or philosophy but an area of expertise you apparently know little about beyond a basic end user's knowledge. On 9/7/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on? While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly microsoft should be shot for causing this much trouble), I completely disagree with his point that offering the games for free is bad for previous customers. Indeed I'd much rather the games that I enjoyed and continue to enjoy could be appreciated by people in the future than that they vanish forever, and it is not as if this is the first time a developer has made such a decision, for example I originally bought Teraformers, trek 2000 and Tarzan Jr, and am happy people can still play the games. I would very much like to contact Liam and let him know my feelings on this issue sinse while discontinuing the games is up to him, I think he is making some incorrect assumptions about the feelings of customers, and it is a shame if people weren't able to play the games in the future just because Liam was afraid previous customers would take umbridge. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsalesof Legacy games
get mozilla thunderbird, and get a program to switch windows back to pull down menus. signature not available. Charles Rivard wrote: If this were true, there would be no sound problems with games developed for the blind, but there are. Outlook Express does not work on Windows Vista and above. Pulldown menus are no longer used. And you say these issues can be fixed with just a little work? How. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsalesof Legacy games I don't want to get into a detailed discussion, but everything you listed below is completely fixable with a little effort. Just saying. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuing salesof Legacy games I don't know much about the technical reasoning, but I don't know why, for example, the ribbon system has replaced the pulldown menus, why sounds are handled in such a way that games no longer work and recording of music cannot be done as it used to be, and why perfectly user friendly Email clients such as Outlook Express are replaced by less user friendly ones, and that sort of stuff. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games Hi Dark, Weather or not Microsoft deserves to be shot over dropping support for Visual Basic 6 is debatable. I seriously wish you would become an informed user and study the technical reasons why Microsoft chose to discontinue certain technologies rather than just blaming them for it. Then again, I doubt it would matter in your case. I don't want to be rude or insulting, but it seems that you hate Microsoft, have some desire to blame them for everything they do, and weather they do something for a good reason or a bad reason they are always, always, always the bad guy. I don't know what your personal bias is, but I find your comments like Microsoft should be shot really gets up my nose, because it is assuming you know more than them about the technical ins and outs of their technology. This isn't about ethics or philosophy but an area of expertise you apparently know little about beyond a basic end user's knowledge. On 9/7/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on? While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly microsoft should be shot for causing this much trouble), I completely disagree with his point that offering the games for free is bad for previous customers. Indeed I'd much rather the games that I enjoyed and continue to enjoy could be appreciated by people in the future than that they vanish forever, and it is not as if this is the first time a developer has made such a decision, for example I originally bought Teraformers, trek 2000 and Tarzan Jr, and am happy people can still play the games. I would very much like to contact Liam and let him know my feelings on this issue sinse while discontinuing the games is up to him, I think he is making some incorrect assumptions about the feelings of customers, and it is a shame if people weren't able to play the games in the future just because Liam was afraid previous customers would take umbridge. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers
Re: [Audyssey] microsoft changes - Re: Fwd: LWorks discontinuingsalesof Legacy games
Hi Charles, We are veering way off topic here, but since you asked and others might be wondering I'll go ahead and answer your question. The simplest solution to your problem is find a different program with a user interface that you are comfortable with. If you didn't like the new Wordpad with its ribbon then install and use a program like Jarte which is essentially the same program but with a traditional pulldown Window. While its true you can't run Outlook Express on modern Windows there are other options like Thunderbird which has a traditional user interface and might be a good replacement. bottom line, no you can't continue using what you use to use, but there are alternatives out there if you look and are willing to change. cheers! On 9/8/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If this were true, there would be no sound problems with games developed for the blind, but there are. Outlook Express does not work on Windows Vista and above. Pulldown menus are no longer used. And you say these issues can be fixed with just a little work? How. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
