Re: [Ganglia-general] GMOND + SFLOWD functionality

2015-06-01 Thread Sergey
Hi Peter,

It’s very sad. It also contradicts the Gmond topology described in the O’Reily 
book “Monitoring with Ganglia” (p.22 Fig. 2-3).
The main disadvantage of this is the fact that we have to build 2 parallel 
monitoring structures (gnome and show) with separate ports and flows, which are 
joined only in the central collection point.
Is it possible to modify Gmond agent to join Gmond and Sfow data locally on 
every monitored computer? 

Thanks!
Sergey

 On May 30, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Peter Phaal peter.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sergey,
 
 gmond does not retransmit the sFlow metrics it receives. A single
 gmond instance is used a central collector for a cluster of machines
 running Host sFlow agents. gmetad uses a TCP connection to retrieve
 the cluster stats from the single gmond instance and update the RRDs.
 
 Peter
 
 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 Hi Vladimir,
 
 This is very serious question - is GMOND supposed to retransmit metrics 
 received from the local HSFLOWD agent or it just saves them locally for 
 further retrieving via TCP connection?
 What is the initial project for this?
 
 Thanks!
 Serfey Vinnik
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Re: [Ganglia-general] GMOND + SFLOWD functionality

2015-06-01 Thread Jesse Becker
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 It also contradicts the Gmond topology described in the O’Reily book 
 “Monitoring with Ganglia” (p.22 Fig. 2-3).

I don't see how.  I'm looking at a copy of the book right now, and
Figure 2-3 has three gmonds:  two (deaf) gmonds that send to a third
gmond (mute) that aggregates them. There's nothing about
retransmitting or relaying metrics at all.  Gmond doesn't retransmit
metrics, except when polled via TCP (which is usually from gmetad).


 Hi Peter,

 It’s very sad. It also contradicts the Gmond topology described in the 
 O’Reily book “Monitoring with Ganglia” (p.22 Fig. 2-3).
 The main disadvantage of this is the fact that we have to build 2 parallel 
 monitoring structures (gnome and show) with separate ports and flows, which 
 are joined only in the central collection point.
 Is it possible to modify Gmond agent to join Gmond and Sfow data locally on 
 every monitored computer?

 Thanks!
 Sergey

 On May 30, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Peter Phaal peter.ph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sergey,

 gmond does not retransmit the sFlow metrics it receives. A single
 gmond instance is used a central collector for a cluster of machines
 running Host sFlow agents. gmetad uses a TCP connection to retrieve
 the cluster stats from the single gmond instance and update the RRDs.

 Peter

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 Hi Vladimir,

 This is very serious question - is GMOND supposed to retransmit metrics 
 received from the local HSFLOWD agent or it just saves them locally for 
 further retrieving via TCP connection?
 What is the initial project for this?

 Thanks!
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Re: [Ganglia-general] GMOND + SFLOWD functionality

2015-06-01 Thread Sergey
OK. Then what does the “deaf” Gmond make with metrics to provide them to “mute” 
Gmond? I guess - it sends them.
I our case “deaf” Gmond gets metrics from local HSFLOWD and doesn’t send them.
Why it doesn’t send them to “mute” Gmond? What’s the difference between it’s 
own metrics and HSFLOWD metrics?
Did you see the content of HSWLOWD.auto ?
It says that Collector IP should be “localhost”. But it can’t be localhost 
because collected metrics will be saved but not transmitted.

Thanks!
Sergey


 
 On Jun 1, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Jesse Becker haw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 It also contradicts the Gmond topology described in the O’Reily book 
 “Monitoring with Ganglia” (p.22 Fig. 2-3).
 
 I don't see how.  I'm looking at a copy of the book right now, and
 Figure 2-3 has three gmonds:  two (deaf) gmonds that send to a third
 gmond (mute) that aggregates them. There's nothing about
 retransmitting or relaying metrics at all.  Gmond doesn't retransmit
 metrics, except when polled via TCP (which is usually from gmetad).
 
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 It’s very sad. It also contradicts the Gmond topology described in the 
 O’Reily book “Monitoring with Ganglia” (p.22 Fig. 2-3).
 The main disadvantage of this is the fact that we have to build 2 parallel 
 monitoring structures (gnome and show) with separate ports and flows, which 
 are joined only in the central collection point.
 Is it possible to modify Gmond agent to join Gmond and Sfow data locally on 
 every monitored computer?
 
 Thanks!
 Sergey
 
 On May 30, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Peter Phaal peter.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sergey,
 
 gmond does not retransmit the sFlow metrics it receives. A single
 gmond instance is used a central collector for a cluster of machines
 running Host sFlow agents. gmetad uses a TCP connection to retrieve
 the cluster stats from the single gmond instance and update the RRDs.
 
 Peter
 
 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 Hi Vladimir,
 
 This is very serious question - is GMOND supposed to retransmit metrics 
 received from the local HSFLOWD agent or it just saves them locally for 
 further retrieving via TCP connection?
 What is the initial project for this?
 
 Thanks!
 Serfey Vinnik
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Re: [Ganglia-general] GMOND + SFLOWD functionality

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Phaal
Sergey,

gmond does not retransmit the sFlow metrics it receives. A single
gmond instance is used a central collector for a cluster of machines
running Host sFlow agents. gmetad uses a TCP connection to retrieve
the cluster stats from the single gmond instance and update the RRDs.

Peter

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sergey svin...@apple.com wrote:
 Hi Vladimir,

 This is very serious question - is GMOND supposed to retransmit metrics 
 received from the local HSFLOWD agent or it just saves them locally for 
 further retrieving via TCP connection?
 What is the initial project for this?

 Thanks!
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[Ganglia-general] GMOND + SFLOWD functionality

2015-05-29 Thread Sergey
Hi Vladimir,

This is very serious question - is GMOND supposed to retransmit metrics 
received from the local HSFLOWD agent or it just saves them locally for further 
retrieving via TCP connection?
What is the initial project for this?

Thanks!
Serfey Vinnik
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