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Let me just point out that 'improved' is a relative term. You wouldn't have to be very good to improve on Bowden's performance in the past decade. Add to it that there were major problems between the coaching factions and how much that can hurt a team, and I don't think it's really a stretch to say that coaching is likely to be improved at the SOW this year. The idea that they may be competitive with us this year, however, is a big stretch. Rob - Original Message - From: "Ken Kirkley" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:02:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren't that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren't that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won't win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That's really not that great considering they're one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting. that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh. that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He's the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!! We're not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hopin
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I though Fisher was Booby's waterboy?! Am I wrong? Does he have a stained glass window? Should he be taken seriously? A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "jl...@comcast.net" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 2:12:20 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Count me as another who never understood all the infatuation with Fisher. Sure he could beat you and make you look silly if he out-talented you, but if the other team had equal or better talent, he couldn't produce. In my mind, he never passed the criteria for a great coach: the old Bear Bryant-ism of taking his and beating yours or taking yours and beating his. Urban Meyer qualifies as does Spurrier. - Original Message - From: "Ken Kirkley" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:02:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren’t that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren’t that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won’t win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know… From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That’s really not that great considering they’re one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting… that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd GallatinTN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed ________ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message >Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football >From: "Oliver Barry" >Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am >To: > > >Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for >the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN >U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! > >We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything >about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the >first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will >we lose more than one game? Nah. > >Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >Real Estate Broker >Bob Parks Realty >1517 Hunt Club Blvd >Gallatin TN 37066 >Phone: 615-826-4040 >Fax: 615-822-2027 >Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > > > >From
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One more thing about Fisher before I let this go. He has produced some decent college QBs. Not great QBs, but pretty good. Until he proves otherwise, that's his level of competence. - Original Message - From: jl...@comcast.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:12:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Count me as another who never understood all the infatuation with Fisher. Sure he could beat you and make you look silly if he out-talented you, but if the other team had equal or better talent, he couldn't produce. In my mind, he never passed the criteria for a great coach: the old Bear Bryant-ism of taking his and beating yours or taking yours and beating his. Urban Meyer qualifies as does Spurrier. - Original Message - From: "Ken Kirkley" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:02:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren’t that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren’t that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won’t win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know… From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10 th nationally. That’s really not that great considering they’re one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting… that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile : 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Footb
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Count me as another who never understood all the infatuation with Fisher. Sure he could beat you and make you look silly if he out-talented you, but if the other team had equal or better talent, he couldn't produce. In my mind, he never passed the criteria for a great coach: the old Bear Bryant-ism of taking his and beating yours or taking yours and beating his. Urban Meyer qualifies as does Spurrier. - Original Message - From: "Ken Kirkley" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:02:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren’t that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren’t that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won’t win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know… From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10 th nationally. That’s really not that great considering they’re one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting… that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile : 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the G
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Disagree totally that coaching has improved. Bimbo is a complete joke. He got all the credit at LSU and they weren't that good. He has been in effect the head coach at SOW and they aren't that good. Recruiting is not good, they may have a top ten ranking but that is twisted. No recruiting on the lines, so they will still have the turnstiles protecting the QB. Until they get that fixed, they can have all the top rated safeties and LBs they want, they still won't win. With Bimbo as head coach, it will help Miami more than you know. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:17 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That's really not that great considering they're one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting. that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh. that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He's the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!! We're not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hoping-for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses-QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez-are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the "Tebow package" in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do
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The problem they've had the last several years and continue to have is that their classes are top-heavy. They get a few great players, but no depth behind them. This past year they got Jeff Luc, Lamarcus Joyner, Christian Jones, and maybe a couple other players, but no one else all that awe-inspiring. The year before they got Jacobbi McDaniel, Greg Reid, Demonte McCallister, but no one else. I could go on and on through the years. Add in that their offensive line recruiting in general has been atrocious with the offensive scheme not matching the coaching or the players (Fisher runs a pro-type system, but Trickett coaches and recruits for a spread-type system) and you have present day F$U. They'll have to do a lot of upgrading on the OL (regardless of how many magazines rate them as the top OL in the country) and DL before they get much better. - Original Message - From: ke...@baldwinnc.com To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:36:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football They had so much infighting - players and subordinate employees did not know who to listen to. Everyone kind of picked a side or tried to hide. Their recruiting is suppose to be improving - although my stats do not show that: Rivals 2010: 10 2009: 7 2008: 9 2007: 21 2006: 3 2005: 2 2004: 3 2003: 21 2002: 4 Scout 2010: 10 2009: 18 2008: 8 2007: 33 2006: 12 2005: 3 2004: 4 2003: 12 2002: 6 Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:16 am To: If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10 th nationally. That’s really not that great considering they’re one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting… that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile : 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile : 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy wee
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They had so much infighting - players and subordinate employees did not know who to listen to. Everyone kind of picked a side or tried to hide. Their recruiting is suppose to be improving - although my stats do not show that: Rivals 2010: 10 2009: 7 2008: 9 2007: 21 2006: 3 2005: 2 2004: 3 2003: 21 2002: 4 Scout 2010: 10 2009: 18 2008: 8 2007: 33 2006: 12 2005: 3 2004: 4 2003: 12 2002: 6 Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:16 amTo: If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That’s really not that great considering they’re one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting… that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.netSent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AMTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote:Coaching will be much improved. --Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired."Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that mu
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And it's not just the physical filth. It intellectual, emotional and spiritual as well. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:12:05 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Ever have one of those days where you are so filthy dirty that you don't even want to get in the shower - but the hose seems like a better option? Think I better go out in the yard, strip down, put the hose end sprayer on "jet", and try to wash all that filth and nastiness off. Then I can go jump in the shower with antibacterial soap. Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:06 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Thanks for the e-mails and information. It's too bad that they'll become competitive again. I see that Haggins is still there. He'll probably continue to berate players if they fail to injure an opposing QB. Real scum. Make sure to use plenty of soap in that shower. Maybe some disinfectant as well. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:43 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again -------- Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -------- From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But
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There is absolutely no way to get that visual description out of your head...no way. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain From: "ke...@baldwinnc.com" To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:12:05 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Ever have one of those days where you are so filthy dirty that you don't even want to get in the shower - but the hose seems like a better option? Think I better go out in the yard, strip down, put the hose end sprayer on "jet", and try to wash all that filth and nastiness off. Then I can go jump in the shower with antibacterial soap. ---- Original Message >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football >From: ken...@earthlink.net >Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:06 am >To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > >Thanks for the e-mails and information. It's too bad that they'll become >competitive again. > >I see that Haggins is still there. He'll probably continue to berate players >if they fail to injure an opposing QB. Real scum. > >Make sure to use plenty of soap in that shower. Maybe some disinfectant as >well. > >Go Gators > >Ken B. (NYC Gator) > >Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed ____________________ >From: >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:43 -0700 >To: >Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > >There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the >"new guard". > >Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, > >New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. > >When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as >expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator > >Like I said - their recruiting is improving > >Give them a couple of years to get their system in place > >Then they'll start competing again > > Original Message >>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football >>From: ken...@earthlink.net >>Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 am >>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >> >>Keith wrote: >> >>Coaching will be much improved. >>-- >> >>Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for >>example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players >>to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that >>list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll >>remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. >> >>I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." >> >>Go Gators >> >>Ken B. (NYC Gator) >> >>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed >>From: >>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 >>To: >>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football >> >>Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden >>was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. >>They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going >>undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender >>again. >> >>But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. >> >> Original Message >>>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football >>>From: "Oliver Barry" >>>Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am >>>To: >>> >>> >>>Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for >>>the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on >>>ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! >>> >>>We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything >>>about the Orange and Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the >>>first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. >>>Will we lose more than one game? Nah. >>> >>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >>>Real Estate Broker >>>Bob Parks Realty >>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd >>>Gallatin TN 37066 >>>Phone: 615-826-4040 615-826-4040 >>>Fax: 615-822-2027 >>>Mobile: 615-972-4239 615-972-423
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If Jimbo was the de-facto coach anyway, I wonder how coaching would be improved. Also, the semis had a better recruiting class but, they were 10th nationally. That's really not that great considering they're one of the Florida big three in one of the richest recruiting grounds in the country. So, mediocre coaching, mediocre recruiting. that equals ACC champs!! Wahoo!! Anyone seen one of those ACC champs t-shirts yet? I would really like to purchase one!! (not really) Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh. that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He's the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!! We're not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hoping-for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses-QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez-are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the "Tebow package" in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It's official. Tennesseeis building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennesseecoach Derek Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something more stable and reliable than the blip of the
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I am not sure that F$U will give him enough time to be competitive with Florida. As my feeble mind remembers, Bobby was given quite a few years to beat Florida, but I doubt that Jimbo will get anywhere near that. In fact, I would say that he has at most four years to bring them up. I am not sure he will be able to do that in four years as long as Urban Meyer stays at Florida. For many years we had to try to compete with F$U with the leftovers from F$U and Miami's recruiting classes. Now F$U finds themselves in a similar position. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:06 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Thanks for the e-mails and information. It's too bad that they'll become competitive again. I see that Haggins is still there. He'll probably continue to berate players if they fail to injure an opposing QB. Real scum. Make sure to use plenty of soap in that shower. Maybe some disinfectant as well. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:43 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again ---- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed _____ From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh. that's the second time I've heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He's the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won't shut up!! We're not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley's 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I'm convinced we're going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com> mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting-or hoping-for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses-QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez-are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 pa
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Ever have one of those days where you are so filthy dirty that you don't even want to get in the shower - but the hose seems like a better option? Think I better go out in the yard, strip down, put the hose end sprayer on "jet", and try to wash all that filth and nastiness off. Then I can go jump in the shower with antibacterial soap. Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:06 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comThanks for the e-mails and information. It's too bad that they'll become competitive again.I see that Haggins is still there. He'll probably continue to berate players if they fail to injure an opposing QB. Real scum.Make sure to use plenty of soap in that shower. Maybe some disinfectant as well.Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:43 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comKeith wrote:Coaching will be much improved. --Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired."Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in
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Thanks for the e-mails and information. It's too bad that they'll become competitive again. I see that Haggins is still there. He'll probably continue to berate players if they fail to injure an opposing QB. Real scum. Make sure to use plenty of soap in that shower. Maybe some disinfectant as well. Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:28:43 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again ---- Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: ken...@earthlink.net Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 am To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -------- From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It’s official. Tennesseeis building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-
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Its probably more of the "title game". Where they give you some big title to make you sound important. Kind of like everyone that works at a bank is vice president of something or another. Does it make sense to have the QB or WR coach specialize in passing plays? Does it make sense to have the RB or OL coach specialize in running plays? Or have the DL or LB coach specialize in stopping running plays? Hasn't this been going on for decades now - without special titles? Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: Woody Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:37 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com I dont understand how this whole "passing game coordinator" thing. Thats what Gonzalez left UF for LSU to be right when he didnt get OC? So is one guy making the running play calls and the toehr guy the passing play calls? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:31 AM, <ke...@baldwinnc.com> wrote: Jimbo Fisher- Head Coach James Coley- Offensive Coordinator / Tight Ends Coach Dameyune Craig- Quarterbacks/Recruiting Coordinator Lawrence Dawsey- Passing Game Coordinator / Wide Receivers Coach D.J. Eliot- Defensive Ends Coach Eddie Gran- Associate HC / Special Teams Coordinator / RB Coach Odell Haggins- Defensive Line Coach Greg Hudson- Asst. Head Coach Defense / Linebackers Coach Mark Stoops- Defensive Coordinator / Defensive Backs Rick Trickett- Asst. Head Coach / Offensive LineExcuse me while I go take a shower after visiting an FSU website Original Message --------Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: <ke...@baldwinnc.com>Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:28 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comKeith wrote:Coaching will be much improved. --Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired."Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: <ke...@baldwinnc.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" <oli...@bobparks.com>Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East oppo
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I dont understand how this whole "passing game coordinator" thing. Thats what Gonzalez left UF for LSU to be right when he didnt get OC? So is one guy making the running play calls and the toehr guy the passing play calls? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > Jimbo > Fisher<http://www.fansonly.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/fisher_jimbo00.html>- > Head Coach James > Coley<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/coley_james00.html>- > Offensive Coordinator / Tight Ends Coach Dameyune > Craig<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/craig_dameyune00.html>- > Quarterbacks/Recruiting Coordinator Lawrence > Dawsey<http://www.fansonly.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dawsey_lawrence00.html>- > Passing Game Coordinator / Wide Receivers Coach D.J. > Eliot<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/eliot_dj00.html>- > Defensive Ends Coach Eddie > Gran<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/gran_eddie00.html>- > Associate HC / Special Teams Coordinator / RB Coach Odell > Haggins<http://www.fansonly.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/haggins_odell00.html>- > Defensive Line Coach Greg > Hudson<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hudson_greg00.html>- > Asst. Head Coach Defense / Linebackers Coach Mark > Stoops<http://onlyfans.cstv.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/stoops_mark00.html>- > Defensive Coordinator / Defensive Backs Rick > Trickett<http://www.fansonly.com/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/mtt/trickett_rick00.html>- > Asst. Head Coach / Offensive Line > Excuse me while I go take a shower after visiting an FSU website > > > Original Message > Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > From: > Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:28 am > To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > > There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the > "new guard". > > Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, > > New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. > > When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao > (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator > > Like I said - their recruiting is improving > > Give them a couple of years to get their system in place > > Then they'll start competing again > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > From: ken...@earthlink.net > Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 am > To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > > Keith wrote: > > Coaching will be much improved. > -- > > Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for > example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players > to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that > list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll > remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. > > I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." > > Go Gators > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > -- > *From: * > *Date: *Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 > *To: * > *Subject: *RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > > Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB > Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first > step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to > going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a > contender again. > > But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. > > > Original Message > Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > From: "Oliver Barry" > Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am > To: > > Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate > for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on > ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! > > We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything > about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the > first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. > Will we lose more than one game? Nah. > > Oliver Barry CRS,GRI > Real Estate Broker > Bob Parks Realty > 1517 Hunt Club Blvd > Gallatin TN 37066 > Phone: 615-826-4040 > Fax: 615
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Jimbo Fisher - Head Coach James Coley - Offensive Coordinator / Tight Ends Coach Dameyune Craig - Quarterbacks/Recruiting Coordinator Lawrence Dawsey - Passing Game Coordinator / Wide Receivers Coach D.J. Eliot - Defensive Ends Coach Eddie Gran - Associate HC / Special Teams Coordinator / RB Coach Odell Haggins - Defensive Line Coach Greg Hudson - Asst. Head Coach Defense / Linebackers Coach Mark Stoops - Defensive Coordinator / Defensive Backs Rick Trickett - Asst. Head Coach / Offensive LineExcuse me while I go take a shower after visiting an FSU website Original Message Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:28 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comKeith wrote:Coaching will be much improved. --Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired."Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It’s off
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There was a huge rift and constant fighting between the "old guard" and the "new guard". Old guard being Bowden, Mickey Andrews, Amato, New guard being JImbo Fisher and the guys he brought in. When Bowden retired, and Fisher gained control - he fired Andrews and Amao (as expected) and brought in Mark Stoops as defenvise coordinator Like I said - their recruiting is improving Give them a couple of years to get their system in place Then they'll start competing again Original Message Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: ken...@earthlink.netDate: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:12 amTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.comKeith wrote:Coaching will be much improved. --Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected.I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired."Go GatorsKen B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 -0700 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It’s official. Tennesseeis building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennesseecoach Derek Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something more stable and reliable than the blip of the Lane Kiffin area. The coaching staff pretty much knew Stephens was not going to be the guy, but at least he had played. They could have given him enough snaps to keep him in the program for insurance for this season. Whereas the Kiffin regime was all about selling Tennesseeas the Southern Cal of the East and as a spring board to the NFL, Dooley wants to create a more stable
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Keith wrote: Coaching will be much improved. -- Do you know if Fisher has kept any of Blobby's assistants? D'Amato, for example? Then there was that sleaze Odell Haggins, who yelled at his players to injure opposition players. I think he was also the one who wrote up that list of Gators to try to get kicked out of the game in '98 or 2000. You'll remember the pre-game fight that got Tony George ejected. I know sleazeball Mickey Andrews "retired." Go Gators Ken B. (NYC Gator) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:47:49 To: Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football From: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 am To: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It’s official. Tennesseeis building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennesseecoach Derek Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something more stable and reliable than the blip of the Lane Kiffin area. The coaching staff pretty much knew Stephens was not going to be the guy, but at least he had played. They could have given him enough snaps to keep him in the program for insurance for this season. Whereas the Kiffin regime was all about selling Tennesseeas the Southern Cal of the East and as a spring board to the NFL, Dooley wants to create a more stable environment and sell the entire experience at Tennessee: program, tradition, education, football, etc. I still think that approach can work with NFL obsessed teenagers and parents if it is sold correctly. But it is a long-term approach that requires patience. Will the Tennesseefans have patience? The Tennesseefans I talk to absolutely know the deal and are prepared for the struggle ahead. It will be an interest process to watch. 3. All Clemson can do is wait for June: This much seems pretty clear after Clemson’s spring game on Saturday. If Kyle Parker returns a
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Getting rid of that evil, disgusting, lyin, cheatin, back stabbin, SOB Bowden was a first step for FSU. They are not back yet - but took the first step. They only went 4-4 in the ACC last year! Once they get back to going undefeated, or only losing one ACC game - will they beccome a contender again. But their recruiting was much improved. Coaching will be much improved. Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College FootballFrom: "Oliver Barry" Date: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:31 amTo: Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything about the Orangeand Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. Will we lose more than one game? Nah. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody BassSent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PMTo: gatorn...@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Floridamay be disappointed. Of course Floridawill not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Floridaclearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Floridawill be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabamaand possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgiaor South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Floridais coming back to the field this season, but not that much. 2. It’s official. Tennesseeis building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennesseecoach Derek Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something more stable and reliable than the blip of the Lane Kiffin area. The coaching staff pretty much knew Stephens was not going to be the guy, but at least he had played. They could have given him enough snaps to keep him in the program for insurance for this season. Whereas the Kiffin regime was all about selling Tennesseeas the Southern Cal of the East and as a spring board to the NFL, Dooley wants to create a more stable environment and sell the entire experience at Tennessee: program, tradition, education, football, etc. I still think that approach can work with NFL obsessed teenagers and parents if it is sold correctly. But it is a long-term approach that requires patience. Will the Tennesseefans have patience? The Tennesseefans I talk to absolutely know the deal and are prepared for the struggle ahead. It will be an interest process to watch. 3. All Clemson can do is wait for June: This much seems pretty clear after Clemson’s spring game on Saturday. If Kyle Parker returns as the Tiger quarterback, Dabo Swinney’s bunch can win the ACC Atlantic division for the second straight year. Despite a practice schedule interrupted from time to time by his commitment to the Clemson baseball team, Parker completed seven of 15 passes for 75 yards in the spring game. The numbers don’t tell Parker’s story. His presence does. Parker is expected to have a big decision to make after the Major League Draft in June. If the up-front money is good, does he walk away from college football and turn the job over to redshirt freshman Tajh Boyd? Boyd, who was once committed to Tennessee, is going to be a very good quarterback. He just isn’t ready right now. 4. Stephen Garcia would be wise to do a lot of throwing—and a lot of thinking—this summer. As a third-year starter you would think that the light is starting to come on for
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hmmm im tempted to throw out a "not so fast my friend".. but instead I will say we will wait and see. USF will be a good test of how good we are going to be. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Oliver Barry wrote: > Heh… that’s the second time I’ve heard Ponder is a dark-horse candidate > for the Heisman trophy. The first guy is an idiot too. He’s the fat guy on > ESPN U who is like everyone else, he gets on these rants and won’t shut up!! > > > > We’re not going to be as good this year? Did Tony happen to read anything > about the Orange and Blue game? After John Brantley’s 47 yard pass on the > first play from scrimmage, I’m convinced we’re going to be great again. > Will we lose more than one game? Nah. > > > > Oliver Barry CRS,GRI > > Real Estate Broker > > Bob Parks Realty > > 1517 Hunt Club Blvd > > Gallatin TN 37066 > > Phone: 615-826-4040 > > Fax: 615-822-2027 > > Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > > > > -- > > *From:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Woody Bass > *Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM > *To:* gatorn...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [gatornews] AJC.com: Mr College Football > > > > Cant wait to hear reactions to #1 and #5 > * * * * *Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East > again* > > 9:04 am April 12, 2010, by Tony Barnhart > > It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn? > > * 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at > Florida may be disappointed.* Of course Florida will not be as good this > season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel > losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE > Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Florida clearly has its quarterback > in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring > game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like > Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring > surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the > “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a > lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Florida > will be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabama > and possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has > even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgia or > South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Florida is coming back to the > field this season, but not that much. > > > > *2. It’s official. Tennessee is building for the long haul*. Dave Hooker > of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree > with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his > first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennessee coach Derek > Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something > more stable and reliable than the blip of the Lane Kiffin area. The coaching > staff pretty much knew Stephens was not going to be the guy, but at least he > had played. They could have given him enough snaps to keep him in the > program for insurance for this season. > > Whereas the Kiffin regime was all about selling Tennessee as the Southern > Cal of the East and as a spring board to the NFL, Dooley wants to create a > more stable environment and sell the entire experience at Tennessee: > program, tradition, education, football, etc. I still think that approach > can work with NFL obsessed teenagers and parents if it is sold correctly. > > But it is a long-term approach that requires patience. Will the Tennessee > fans have patience? The Tennessee fans I talk to absolutely know the deal > and are prepared for the struggle ahead. It will be an interest process to > watch. > > > > *3. All Clemson can do is wait for June:* This much seems pretty clear > after Clemson’s spring game on Saturday. If Kyle Parker returns as the Tiger > quarterback, Dabo Swinney’s bunch can win the ACC Atlantic division for the > second straight year. Despite a practice schedule interrupted from time to > time by his commitment to the Clemson baseball team, Parker completed seven > of 15 passes for 75 yards in the spring game. The numbers don’t tell > Parker’s story. His presence does. Parker is expected to have a big decision > to make after the Major League Draft in June. If the up-front money is good, > does he walk away from college football and turn the job over to redshirt > freshman Tajh Boyd? Boyd, who was once committed to Tennessee, is going to > be a very good quarterback. He just isn’t ready right now. > > > > *4. Stephen Garcia would be wise to do a lot of throwing—and a lot of > thinking—this summer.* As a third-year starter you would think that the > light is starting to come on for South Carolina quarterback Stephen Garcia. > Unfortunately for the star
