g_b 'the sin not named not named...'
http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/africa_pre.html Hi The above is a link (I hope. I am computer-dodgy) to glbt which you probably all know about being far more familiar with computers than I. But having only recently joined GB, please forgive me, if you do. www.glbtq,com is an excellentsite dealing with literature and the arts (homosexual and lesbian) and for that reason I subscribe to it. However, their last email drew my attention tohomosexuality in Africa. This article seems to compliment therecent email with the extract from "Tritiya-Prakriti: People of the Third Sex" which I found fascinating. I quote only the concluding paragraph from glbtq. a: Sub-Saharan, Pre-Independence Conclusion With reports from hundreds of sub-Saharan African locales of male-male sexual relations and from about fifty of female-female sexual relations, it is clear that same-sex sexual relations existed in traditional African societies, though varying in forms and in the degree of public acceptance. Much of this same-sex activity was situational or premarital, though there were long-term relationships, too. The special Christian animus toward homosexuality was carried to Africa by Europeans and stimulated denials that "the sin not named among Christians" existed among "unspoiled" Africans. It seems that the British have a great deal to answer for. I can say that because I am English and was brought up at a time when what I naturally felt was illegal, when homosexual men where prosecuted and flung in goal and given psychiatric treatment. Consequently almost all homosexual males then were pretend-heterosexuals. We walked in the dark. Best wishes the queer commando Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. SPONSORED LINKS Bombay india Cause and effect essay Causes of depression Lgbt YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b from Dan Savage: was it rape?
This is in response to the thread on this list about how to handle people who feel you up in crowded train compartments. I'm not expressing any personal opinions here, but here's an interesting thread about a similar - though considerably more dramatic - experience in Dan Savage's Savage love column. First is the letter describing the experience and Dan's response. Then the others of which the second last is particularly interesting for the depressing light it seems to cast on the place of effeminate queer men - the equivalent of kotis, I guess - in the US: Q. I'm a 21-year-old straight guy with a boring, straight sex life. Until a few months ago when something terrifying happened. I was contacted by somebody through match.com. She claimed to be a grad student at my school, and had a very attractive photo, and we began IM'ing. She talked about how she was looking for a casual deal, and she started going on and on about how much she loved giving head and liked receiving anal. A bit kinkier than what I'm used to, I thought, but it's match.com, that's safe, and she's a grad student at a good school. Nothing to worry about. So I agreeawful decisionto meet up. When I get to the bar, she calls me and tells me to come to her friend's apartment instead. When I get there, it's totally dark. She calls again and tells me not to turn any lights on when I come in, just to get naked in the bed and wait for her. I decide to leave, as I'm afraid I'm going to get robbed or beaten up. She calls again and says we can meet at another nearby bar. I wait at the bar for 10 minutes. Another phone call. She tells me she can't come to a public place because she isn't comfortable, but asks to give me oral sex. Another awful decision: I go back to her friend's apartment and comply with her original instructions. I don't turn on any lights, I get naked, I get in bed. A slim person comes into the dark room, but there's a towel covering her face and I don't get a look at her body. She starts going down on me; it's awful and uncomfortable. Then the horror. While I'm not paying attention to herinstead concentrating so I can climax and get the hell outthis person gets on top and inserts me into her. Unprotected. I suddenly realize I'm feeling something I've never felt before: anal sex. I was inside for maybe 30 seconds before I jumped out of the bed. She ran out. When I turned on the lights and looked around it seemed clear that I was in a man's apartment. I got out of the place in a hurry and didn't look back. I should have called the police but didn't. I've been living with a crippling fear of HIV. During the summer I got tested three timesall negativesbut that only calms me down for a few days until the panic sets in again. I told my best friend about this, and he pushed me into therapy, and I've started seeing a psychiatrist. Aside from continuing therapy and getting retested, how can I put my life back together? Casual mentions of HIV/AIDS are enough to induce an anxiety attack. I barely sleep at night. My (nonexclusive) relationship with a girl I care about has been ruined. (Or: I ruined it, no passives.) Do you think I have grounds to file an assault charge? I certainly accept my part of the responsibility for thisit was my horniness and carelessness that put me in a vulnerable position, and I did give my consent to the oral sex. But I did not give consent to have anal sex, and if it was a man I didn't consent to any of it. Shortly after this happened, I contacted the person again, asking if she/he was clean. She/he responded by suggesting that we meet again. Would it be a good idea to arrange another meeting? Obviously I wouldn't put myself at further risk, but I could at least figure out the person's genderby force if I had to. Scared and Seeking Advice A. I'm printing SASA's letter in its entirety so that other young men can learn from his mistakes. His bedrock fuckupwhich, to SASA's credit, he identifies himselfwas letting his horniness get the better of him. If SASA had been thinking with his head and not his dick, he would have bailed on this woman early on in their deeply creepy courtship. Had he paused to think, perhaps he would have remembered the first rule of Internet personalsand everything else, for that matter: If it sounds too good to be true, it is. An attractive girl lurking on a personals site offering no- strings-attached blowjobs and anal sex (but not vaginal intercourse) to men she's never met? Not on planet Earth. I don't mean to pour salt in your well-salted wounds, SASA. You know you fucked up, and you know how. But I hope you take some comfort in knowing that other young men won't fall for a similar con after reading your story. And I would urge you to stop freaking out about how long you've been freaking out about this. You did something so colossally stupid, so monumentally idiotic, that I would be more
g_b The GayBombay Sunday Brunch on 16 October 2005 at Zouk!
The GayBombay Sunday Brunch on 16 October 2005 at Zouk! Time: 12:00 noon - 6:30 pm. Cover charge: Rs 250. Venue: ZOUK, Hotel Imperial Palace, Telli Galli, Andheri (East); Mumbai 400069. ~~ Program: Welcome Drink/Starters will be served from 12:00 onwards until about 1:30. Brunch Buffet will be served from 1:00 onwards until about 2:45. High tea will be served between 4:30 and 5:30. There will be music (with a DJ in attendance), dancing, a film, games and conversation! PLUS! Clinch a Crush: Send a red or yellow rose, and your feelings on a card, to a cherished cutie. Sign your name, send it secretly or give it personally! Each rose (with a card) will cost Rs 5. ~~ Brunch Menu: Welcome Drink: Mixed Fruit Punch, Sweet Lassi. Starters: Bhutta Ka Kebab, Reshmi Chattpata. Salads: Fresh Green Salad, Aloo Chaat. Main Course: Dal Mahkhani, Butter Chicken, Gobi Adraki, Malawani Fish Curry, Peas Pulav, Assorted Nan/Roti/Paratha, Mixed Vegetable Raita. Dessert: Gulab Jamun Vanilla Ice Cream. ~~ HOW TO GET THERE: Hotel Imperial Palace is a 5 minute walk from Andheri station on the East side. Walk up the Andheri Kurla Road (towards the Highway) and turn right into Telli Gully. It's the 3rd building on your right. But if you're driving and taking the Andheri flyover, from West to East, make amleft turn at the signal at the end of the flyover. Or if you're driving on the highway make a left turn at the Andheri flyover road and a right turn at the signal before the flyover. This is Telli Galli. Almost towards the end of this road, close to Andheri Kurla Road (perpendicular to Telli Gully), is Hotel Imperial Palace, on your left. ~~ * SOME DON'TS: GB, as a support group, has created this comfort/safe space for gays. Many people at the party may be newbies (those still coming to terms with their sexuality and/or those who have mustered the courage to come to such a party for the first time). We request you to be sensitive to the comfort levels of others and to behave and dress accordingly. No dark rooms; if found indulging in any hanky panky you will be asked to leave the event. * A FEW DOS: Have a smashing time. You have to be above the age of 18 to attend the event. ~~ This event is organized by GayBombay: http://www.gaybombay.org Right of admission reserved. If you have any questions please email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/j2WM0C/PbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b How Can I Cope With the Miles between Us? (a gay poem)Do read, nice one!
How Can I Cope With the Miles between Us? You're a thousand miles away from here, But in my heart I can still feel you're near. Your touch and the smile you put on my face, Gives me the feeling that I am safe. I m always safe when I m around you, Because every little thing you do, Means more than you know. How can I cope with the miles between us? You took my hand and made me fly, I could touch the clouds high up in the sky. Thats how high you're love makes me go. Now I just want you to know, I treasure all the moments that we shared. Each moment made me feel as if I was walking on air. How can I cope with the miles between us? No one can make me feel the way you can, It's there in every touch of your hand. The way the warmth in your touch makes me feel, Makes me ask myself, if this is all real? I wish you could hold me in your arms 'till day breaks night, Then you would still be there holding me tight. How can I cope with the miles between us? If you're not there, I don't know what to do, Although, you know Ill always be here for you. So don't hesitate to give me a call. 'Cause you know I m gonna give you my all. Sometimes I wish I could go back to the past. Like turning over the sands of the hour glass. Going back to when we first met. Having you in my life is no regret. I hope I can tell you soon, Just how much I love you, So tell me, How can I cope with the miles between us? Author: Andrew Aquino (Taken from the net) The above poem is written by day to day guy one of us and that the best part of it, its has an average person's emotions and feeling, that we all can relate to instead of something out of the league. Please keep me posted with your opinion, suggestions and ya, I guess complains as well. Forwarded By Rajeev! __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help tsunami villages rebuild at GlobalGiving. The real work starts now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8WM1C/KbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b I Wonder ?
I've been chatting on net for the last 5 month... meet many guys on net. Before i started out on internet I use to see this fuzzy dream that I would meet the kind of guy I m looking for. Some one to put my head on his sholder when I m feeling low and many other things which sound quite soothing for a shy and introward guy like me. I registered myself to the various dating sites. get responses too. But I get only disappointment every time I talk to a new guy. Its all start off with the good and nice words and comes to end with SEX. Is the sex the only thing for a person to enter into friendship with ? Why can't people see the world beyond sex beyond being physical lusty. I m belonging to the community which lives under dark. I have many issues to share. But no one cares. I guess may be I m expecting too much good from the people. I believed in the story of peoples who love each other without any conditions. May be its all hype in the stories and nothing more then that. I m fed up with the never ending search of this kind Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help Sudanese refugees rebuild their lives through GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/V8WM1C/EbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b Coming to India
Ethan - As a TG who went to architecture school in Berkeley...I would say that you should ask us where those items that you were interested in might be...India is just as diverse as the human mind can be...i.e. the best sweeis are probably not found in the most logically designed city...just as missed opportunity is not revered in the same cities as where overwhelming success is the accepted norm.. Elizabeth...Kolkata...and Bangalore from time to time.. In a message dated 10/9/2005 10:35:41 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hay dude, Welcome to India! Unlike Western Countries, India is full of rich and poor, bold and the beautiful, serene and divine beauty. Here in India you will get to variety of people with different tastes coupled with variety of religions, casts and creed. You can dwell easily in any of the finest hotels which are located almost in all major and famous cities in India. There are plenty of places to visit from North end to the southern end, and from east to west. To begin with, I must suggest that you ought to travel by Air or by Private Rented Cab and carry your own food and water (Unless you are in your luxury Hotel) You can stay in Mumbai which is the Financial Capital of India and has got access to each and every destination in India and Abroad mostly by Rail, Air and by roads. There are quiet a few local Airlines which can make your travel comfortable and affordable too. To name a few, according to their rankings, we have Jet Air Ways – http://www.jetairways.com/Cultures/en-US/HomePage.htm Air Sahara - http://203.199.70.135/airsahara/index.jsp Kingfisher Airlines – http://www.flykingfisher.com/ Indian Airlines - http://indian-airlines.nic.in/scripts/index.asp Air India Express - http://www.airindiaexpress.in/airindiaexpress/Support.asp Air Deccan - http://www.airdeccan.net/airdeccan/home.asp SpiceJet - http://www.spicejet.com/ Following Sites can very useful: http://www.journeymart.com/dexplorer/asiais/india/default.asp http://www.india-tourism.com/ To name a few: The places you can visit in West of India are as follows: 1] Mumbai (Financial Capital) which is the host city for all major events, films, star attractions, Airports, Financial Institutions, Temples, Beaches, Pubs and night life. 2] Goa - The Finest Destination in India for Beach Lovers. http://www.amchogoa.com/ The places you can visit in South of India are as follows: 1] Bangalore – The IT Capital of India 2] Kerala – The famous destination for exotic landscapes, coconut trees, sea shores and Spas. http://www.kerala.gov.in/ 3] Ooty – Famous Hill Station 4] KanyaKumari – The southern end of India which is closely connected to Srilanka which is famous for SWAMI VIVEKANANDA ROCK MEMORIAL http://www.kanyakumari.tn.nic.in/ and http://www.kanyakumari.com/local.htm The places you can visit in North of India are as follows: 1] New Delhi – Capital of India 2] Jammu and Kashmir – You must have visited many tourist spots in US, Canada, Central Europe but Kashmir is unique and is known as Heaven on Earth. Kashmir offers richness of culture, beauty, hospitality and picnic spots for mind and body relaxation 3] Rajasthan – This city is famous for its Famous Castles, Beautifully decorated ancient palaces, The cities like Jaipur and Udaypur will hold you for days and weeks for their eternal beauty and eye catching spots. 4] Agra - Where you get to see our Grand Special and Big Taj Mahal made up of Marble Stone and each and every person who has ever fallen in love at some point of time in his life, must must must visit Taj Mahal. The places you can visit in East of India are as follows: 1] Andaman and Nicobar Islands – These islands and very famous picnic spots for tourists as well actors and actresses for their shooting and outings. 2] Orissa – Famous for its temples and clothing accessories. There are lot of places to visit but I could name very few. I hope this info. Is very useful and you will be able to make best out of it. I hope your stay in India brings you joy, happiness and comfort at economical price. We welcome you to have a memorable stay in INDIA. If you need any help feel free to mail anyone of us, and we would be glad to help you out. I have attached few contact numbers in case you plane to have a base at Mumbai. These numbers will be very useful to you. IMPORTANT SERVICES Police 100 Ambulance 102 Police Control Room 2620111 /2151855 Traffic Control 4927238 Water 3766294 Home Guard 2424423 Weather Enquiry 2151606 Bombay University 2652825 / 2652822 Bombay University Kalina 6120841 Maharashtra State Board of Secondary 4093473 Higher Education 4093481 Doordarshan 4934672 All
Re: g_b Coming to India
Ethan I do not know how much of the Third World countries you've seen, but if you're new then I suggest you begin your India visit from the South. Take a flight to Bangalore, explore Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Andhra and work your way up to Goa, Mumbai and then the (dirty) North Indian parts. This way the culture shock won't be such a rude one! Southern India is cleaner, more literate and intellectually more advanced than the North (no offense, North Indians). And I include Maharashtra in Southern India as I write this just to make it easier for you. Cheers Adrian Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/j2WM0C/PbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b Coming to India
Hi dear U can start ur holiday from mumbai which is nearer to Goa. If u come to mumbai I can help u. Regards Dinesh --- ethan94109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm American from San Francisco, California. This is my first timeCan anyone tell me where I should go? I'm coming alone for holiday and am not sure what I would want to see. Need some help. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help Sudanese refugees rebuild their lives through GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/V8WM1C/EbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b daily headlines
Daily Headlines Monday, 10 October 2005Bromley meets over proposed gay banBromley Council will meet today to discuss the proposed ban on civil partnership ceremonies in the London borough. Mon 10, 09:09Gay cancer research "desperately needed"A senior figure in the world of cancer research has called for more studies into anal cancer and gay men, in the wake of the new vaccine for the human papilloma virus (HPV). Fri 7, 14:47LA mayor to fight anti-gay voteAs the US continues to fight over gay unions, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa pledged to fight against a proposed anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment expected to be placed on the California ballot next June. Mon 10, 11:06Boy George arrested for cocaineBoy George returned to the UK today, tearfully protesting his innocence after being arrested on drug charges in New York. Mon 10, 11:38DTPM nominated for top awardsBlue Cube, London's leading polysexual club night and DJ promoter, has had its various talents rewarded with nominations in an impressive three categories in the prestigious House Music Awards. Mon 10, 12:56Transgender lawyer wins awardShannon Minter has come a long way from rural east Texas, where, as a teenager, fellow students slashed his tires and his family had trouble accepting him as a transgender person. Mon 10, 10:49Legendary film gets UK premiereGay artist Andy Warhol's legendary eight hour film of the Empire State Building will be shown in the UK for the first time, in a series of free showings through October. Mon 10, 12:35 Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: g_b train-ing!
brutal way of refusal/ denying could not be polite?fk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kash: when i was about seventeen the same thing ahppened to me. It was the one of the most scary, unnervibg and frighteneing and humilaiting experiences. This is nothing but sexual abuse. i'll tell you what i did, I ground my cowboy boots hard onto the bastard's foot and made him yell, and told him loudly that i'd do the same to his balls if he didn't get lost, and the fellow melted away, crowded train or no. anybody groping you against your wishesis molesting you and deserves the same treatrment meted out to what are known as 'eve-teasers'. kris - Original Message - From: kash ora To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:13 PM Subject: Re: g_b train-ing! hi, if anyone gropes /in a crowded train, tell him to handle softly and let him have the pleasure after all he is longing for that and for u no way to move out.//either u enjoy or let him enjoy.// when station comes u move out anyway/ if u wish , when u move out tell him, sorry and not to follow u.//its a way of caring the unknown. bye Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey all,recently after work i caught a train, the lights were switched off n then the train started moving. the train was packed to the fullest and i couldnt move a bit. then suddenly this man positions himself facing me and starts groping my crotch. this made me a lil uncomfortable. i tried moving, but to no avail. he still was feeling my thing and then i did what i had to, i took his hand and gave it back to him!!!hehe but he didnt stop, turn my back to him...and he started humping. after a while he got it that i was uninterested and got off. it was real embarassing and shameful. didnt really like that feeling.all that was goin on in my mind were the horror stories shared on this forum by ppl. i think i did what i shdve done. what do ull think lapin Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. SPONSORED LINKS Bombay india Cause and effect essay Lgbt YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: g_b I Wonder ?-culture of 'fuck-and-run.
Handsome redfort We all sympathise with your sentiments. Truely it is a problem for us all. I particularly adore the companionship of my lover, his fantastic character, and his soothing shoulder of sympathyand the sex too! May I encourage you to look at the problem with a little more understanding - after all, the gay dating scene has the same problems that the straight dating scene has with the issue of intimacy outside sex. Just ask any woman who's tried the dating game in the last 5 years. It's more a problem with our society in general, rather than the gay scene in particular. However, that said, it may be beneficial for you to think calmly and clearly about the context of gay dating. I assume you live in India. The str8 marriage is essentially a 'social contract', originally an agreement between families and individuals providing financial, material and emotional support for the breeding and raising of children. This has changed drastically in the last decade, but it remains the unspoken centre of any str8 marriage or relationship. Str8 guys automatically see their girlfriend in the light of this tradition. It gives their emotional and sexual connection an overall context. Whether they eventually marry or not, they still play 'mummies and daddies' in embryo throughout the course of their relationship. The gay relationship (and marriage, if you live in some blessed countries) is essentially a sensuality contract, an agreement based on sexual preference, so it thrusts the sexual factor well to the forefront of the partnership. This sexual contract is historically without much recent antecedence so it provides not much in the way of tradition so as to inform the gay couple as to the purpose and conduct of their relationship. We must stay home and mind the kids.. is a regular str8 rule of conduct. Which disco will we go to tonight?..is more often than not the gay rule of conduct. This has caused the gay community to be criticised for being 'shallow' and 'self centered', but I counter by pointing out that str8 couples who are childless engage in much of the same free lifestyle, unfettered by the financial and emotional constraints imposed on them by the breeding of children. The point is this. You and I are inventing the gay relationship tradition. How you conduct yourself will become part of the great tradition of Indian gayness. The courage with which you confront your parents and society and come out of the closet, the courage with which you encourage the guy you love to focus on your emotional satisfaction before sensual satisfaction - all these things will build eventually the beginnings of the 'Indian gay experience'. Don't give up though just because the guy wants sex. Remember, because of the strictures placed on Indian gay guys, there is a culture of 'fuck-and-run. We had that here in the western gay scene for a long time. But I assure you, it will change. And it will change because you as an individual will not give up looking for a guy who satisfies your soul, as well as your body. Stick to it. With your loving personality I am sure you will draw Mr Right to yourself shortly. But don;t deny him his bedroom pleasures as well. He has needs too. Good luck John handsome_redfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been chatting on net for the last 5 month... meet many guys on net. Before i started out on internet I use to see this fuzzy dream that I would meet the kind of guy I m looking for. Some one to put my head on his sholder when I m feeling low and many other things which sound quite soothing for a shy and introward guy like me. I registered myself to the various dating sites. get responses too. But I get only disappointment every time I talk to a new guy. Its all start off with the good and nice words and comes to end with SEX. Is the sex the only thing for a person to enter into friendship with ? Why can't people see the world beyond sex beyond being physical lusty. I m belonging to the community which lives under dark. I have many issues to share. But no one cares. I guess may be I m expecting too much good from the people. I believed in the story of peoples who love each other without any conditions. May be its all hype in the stories and nothing more then that. I m fed up with the never ending search of this kind Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a