g_b tribute to Auden: Truth of Love
XII. Truth of Love (from Twelve Songs) Some say that love's a little boy, And some say it's a bird, Some say it makes the world go round, And some say that's absurd, And when I asked the man next--door, Who looked as if he knew, His wife got very cross indeed, And said it wouldn't do. Does it look like a pair of pyjamas, Or the ham in a temperance hotel? Does its odour remind one of lammas, Or has it a comforting smell? Is it prickly to touch as a hedge is, Or soft as eiderdown fluff? Is it sharp or quite smooth at the edges? O tell me the truth of love. Our history books refer to it In cryptic little notes, It's quite a common topic on The Transatlantic boats; I've found the subject mentioned in Accounts of suicides, And even seen it scribbled on The backs of railway--guides. Does it howl like a hungry Alsatian, Or boom like a military band? Could one give a first--rate imitation On a saw or a Steinway Grand? Is its singing at parties a riot? Does it only like Classical stuff? Will it stop when one wants to be quiet? O tell me the truth about love. I looked inside the summer--house; It wasn't ever there: I tried the Thames at Maidenhead, And Brighton's bracing air. I don't know what the blackbird sang, Or what the tulip said; But it wasn't in the chicken--run, Or underneath the bed. Can it pull extraordinary faces? Is it usually sick on a swing? Does it spend all its time at the races, Or fiddling with pieces of spring? Has it views of its own about money? Does it think Patriotism enough? Are its stories vulgar or funny? O tell me the truth about love. When it comes, will it come without warning Just as I'm picking my nose? Will it knock on my door in the morning, Or tread in the bus on my toes? Will it come like a change in the weather? Will its greeting be courteous or rough? Will it alter my life altogether? O tell me the truth about love. W.H.Auden A lighter poem, and one that shows Auden's technical skill with writing different types of verse, including a jogging along song like this. And note the teasing possible gay reference in the first lines: And when I asked the man next-door,/ Who looked as if he knew,/ His wife got very cross indeed,/And said it wouldn't do. Auden wrote a lot of lighter verse, and this poem with its satirical lines (It's quite a common topic on/ The Transatlantic boats) or absurd images seems to be one of them. But perhaps because its Auden writing it, one gets a sense of something more being said, a feeling, sometimes menacing, sometimes (as in this poem) yearning beneath the light words. Underneath the easy surface this poem is asking painful questions about the nature of love and how little we know of it. Will it happen? How will we recognise when it happens? How much will it change us when it happens? What happens if it never happens? Do we want it to happen if we don't know what will happen when it happens? All questions we ask ourselves all the time. Vikram
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g_b The GayBombay Party on Saturday 24 March 2007 at Liquid Lounge!
The GayBombay Party on Saturday 24 March 2007 at Liquid Lounge! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Time: 9 pm - 1 am. Cover charge: Rs 450. Venue: Liquid Lounge(above Karma); Sukh Sagar; 534 S.V.P. Road; Mumbai 47. (Near Girgaum Chowpatty and Opera House; opposite Standard Chartered Bank. Charni Road is the closest station). *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Please note that you have to be above the age of 21 to attend GayBombay parties. Please carry proof of age with you: a driving license, college identity card, etc. YOU WILL NOT BE ADMITTED IF YOU ARE BELOW THE AGE OF 21! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* The Cover Charge includes: Inhouse DJ and a dance floor; light snacks like wafers, peanuts, etc; 4 small Drinks with mixers, or 2 Beer Pints, or 2 Bacardi Breezers/Mocktails, or 4 Soft Drinks/Mineral Water. Extra drinks will be sold at Rs 50/- to Rs 100/- per drink. Dinner will not be served. Extra food items can be ordered as per the menu rates. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Some don'ts: ` GB, as a support group, has created this comfort/safe space for gays. Many people at the event may be newbies (those still coming to terms with their sexuality and/or those who have mustered the courage to come to such an event for the first time). We request you to be sensitive to the comfort levels of others and to behave and dress accordingly. ` No dark rooms and no sex on the premises; if found indulging in any hanky panky you shall be asked to leave the party. ` A special REQUEST: During and after the party please DO NOT gather outside the venue. The management has requested us to ensure that, in the middle of the night, the peace of the neighbourhood is not disturbed. - A few dos: ` Have a smashing time. ` Carry your Alcoholic Drinks Permit. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* For more information: www.gaybombay.org. Right of admission reserved. --- Regards Luv Dee - Now you can have your favourite RSS headlines come to you with the all new Yahoo! Mail.
g_b Because You're My Friend..
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g_b Romeo without Juliet coming soon
Forgot where I saw this news item but it sounds very promising. Apart from the general idea of a Romeo with a male lover being cool, the fact that its going to come from Matthew Bourne makes it all that more exciting. How many people here have seen his version of Swan Lake with male swans, on film, or if they were really lucky, in read life? I saw the film (the BCL has a copy, I think) and it was quite amazing. The swans, men with bare torsos and feathered leggings, were really hot and the main swan, danced by Adam Cooper, was just incredibly sexy. More than just the hunk factor though the way the story of the ballet was worked out to suit the male swans idea was fascinating (lots of swipes at British royalty) and by the time you came to the main duet between the prince and the swan the idea of it being done between two men had stopped seeming like a gimmick, but something quite natural and exciting within the storyline - as well as being amazingly hot. I wonder if a film like this could be shown at our film screenings. Our screenings happen so rarely (next is on April 1st) and there's always so much good stuff to show that we tend to stick to more conventional films. Would people sit through over an hour and a half of ballet, no words, just dance and music, but with hot guys? Vikram Gay Romeo ballet gives Juliet kiss-off Steven Swinford ALAS, poor Juliet. Matthew Bourne, Britain's most successful choreographer, is to give Romeo a male lover in a gay version of the romantic tragedy. Bourne, whose all-male Swan Lake has enthralled audiences for more than a decade, is again using an all-male cast for Romeo, Romeo his version of Prokofiev's ballet Romeo and Juliet, based on the Shakespeare play. For Bourne, 47, the challenge is to portray a convincing gay relationship in dance. He said last week: It's more to do with dancing than with sexuality. A male dancer, whether he's gay or straight, fits into a relationship with a female partner very happily. Getting away from that, making a convincing love duet, a romantic, sexual duet, for two men that is comfortable to do and comfortable to watch I don't know if you can. I've never seen it done. Bourne's Swan Lake, in which all the swans and cygnets are male, was first staged at Sadler's Wells theatre in London in 1995, and became the longest-running ballet in London's West End and on Broadway. But although it was critically celebrated, Bourne has long had concerns that it was short of being a true homosexual work of art, since many of the performers were not playing people. He said: I have a way of approaching it so as to make it I hate to say `acceptable', it's a terrible thing to say but so that people don't run screaming from the theatre. I let them find their own way with it, take it as far as they want in their own heads. While a gay interpretation of Romeo and Juliet has the potential to be more provocative, critics have often pointed to homosexual undertones in Shakespeare's work. Many of his sonnets were addressed to a young man, and there has also been speculation about the sexuality of the lead male characters in Romeo and Juliet, particularly Mercutio, Romeo's best friend, and Benvolio, his cousin. Bourne plans to improvise movements and scenes for Romeo, Romeo with small groups of dancers later this summer. If successful, rehearsals with the whole company could begin next year. Since West Side Story translated Romeo and Juliet to the gang warfare of 1950s New York City, the play has often been reinterpreted. In 1996, Baz Luhrmann, the director, cast Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes in the title roles, retaining the poetry, but updating the story to replace rapiers with pistols.
g_b Re: Please Wish Me Good Luck!! (Very long email..plz. avoid reading if you have no time)
Guys, Almost an year ago I had written the following email (the one at the bottom of this mail) to our GB group, and received lot of support from various members... My heartful of thanks to all those members who wished me Good Luck! Their prayers have been heard and today I am free with all my tensions , worries whatever u call it To begin with my story let me formally announce my name here first. I am Rahul. I have done my engineering and I have been working for last 10.5 years in the field of information technologyI have enjoyed a great career and travelled the world overWith ambitious mind and with high expectations from my happy go lucky kind of life...I purchased a new big flat for me, my parents and to start my new family life (yes even though I knew I was a gay)I got engaged to a beautiful, charming and intelligent girl...she was my distant relativeafter our engagement we started roaming around like free lovebirds...exchanged emails...kisses...and lot more that any two lovers would do. But after almost 2-3 months I started observing changes in her attitude...her behaviour and her wish list that she was trying to propose me with I was a very straight forward guy..and I had never got any chance to understand any woman so closely. At this point in time I had no thoughts of staying single as I was already attached to her and had started dreaming about my family life with her but as the time went by she started showing her true colours .she started avoiding me whenever I used to go and meet her while she was with her friends .she started giving excuses for not meeting me and started telling me that she had received lots of better marriage proposals and she could have opted for someone better than me I used to get upset and try to find flaws/loop holes in my relationship .I used to question myself if I had done anything wrong to her for which she had started showing disrespect and disregards to my feelings .Our tiffs took a shape of small disputes which in turn triggered new arguments and fights . She went to an extent of breaking our engagement and cancelling the marriage hall which we had booked for our wedding . My father was a very sensitive person and he was deeply attached to his LADLA BETA.. He couldnt see his sons engagement being broken and soon he met with his first heart attack I couldnt see my dad suffering in pain and physical torture I promised myself whatever it may cost I will try to make my relationship with her again and try to keep my dad happy So me and my Mom tried to convince her to patch up again and make a fresh start. She agreed. My dad started feeling better and he began our marriage preparations in full swing but may be god didnt want to see me happy for a long time! Just one month before my marriage on a black Saturday I lost my father He suffered cardiac arrest and left me and my Mom alone. My Mom also collapsed on seeing my dad dead and I had to hospitalized her in an ICU .I brought my Mom back home just 2 days before my wedding .my relatives and family friends advised us to go ahead with my marriage as it would only add a new member into our family and that might help my Mom feel better I had no choice but to accept the wedlock I was feeling guilty from within as at one end my Mom had turned into a widow and at other end I got married to begin my family life Was it really justified for a Son to get married especially when he had lost his father just a month before his wedding? Anyways everything said and done..I made a fresh start! But the pain of loosing my dad was still pinching me deep in my heart I always used to feel guilty whenever I slept with my wife In my dreams I used to see my Mom crying and see the dead body of my father! I had no clue whats there in store for me and I could see my future in the dark . I went into depression and our relatives advised my Mom to take me to a psychiatrist as only he could pull me out of the mental stress and trauma that I was suffering through I was under medication for 3-4 months Used to take 6 pills a day and sleep for 12 hours a day it started affecting my career I could not concentrate on my work it also started affecting my health My testosterone levels went down, my haemoglobin/ RBC levels went down and my mind become slow and Iess responsive to the outside world! I realized that my psychiatrist had given me overdose of the pills which would cause imbalance of the chemical compounds in the human brain so that it became less responsive If I had continued with those pills for even a month longer then it would have definitely killed me to death one fine day, while alone I cried and screamed loudly and begged Lord Ganesha to help me come out of this situation as I knew my wife wouldnt take care of my Mom and she had only intentions to grab my money and property! I spent many nights just by watching the ceiling from
g_b Clocks (a joke)
A U.S. Republican died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, What are all those clocks? St. Peter answered, Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock move. Oh, said the republican. Whose clock is that? That's Mother Teresa's, replied St. Peter. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie. Incredible, said the republican. And whose clock is that one? St. Peter responded, That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abraham told only two lies in his entire life. Where's George W Bush's clock? asked the republican. George's clock is in Jesus' office... He's using it as a ceiling fan!
g_b It's The Box Office.
The airliner pushed back from the gate, the flight attendant gave the passengers the usual information regarding seat belts, etc. Finally, she said, Now sit back and enjoy your trip while your captain, Judith Campbell, and crew take you safely to your destination. Ed sitting in the eighth row thought to himself, Did I hear her right? Is the captain a woman? When the attendants came by with the drink cart, he said Did I understand you right? Is the captain a woman? Yes, said the attendant, In fact, this entire crew is female. My God, said Ed, I'd better have two scotch and sodas. I don't know what to think with only women up there in the cockpit. That's another thing sir, said the attendant, We No Longer Call It The Cock Pit. It's The Box Office. - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: g_b The GayBombay Sunday Meet at Thane on 25 March 2007!
Dear All Campus is not in Gavanpada but on the main road (navghar road) leading to the highway I know..'cos i live very near that place..and it is around 10 mins walking distance from the station.for those who wish to see the scenery around ( u know what i mean ..and mulund is a veritable treasure trove), i would recommend walking upto Campus :) Ravi On 3/23/07, gaybombay_moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong! This time around we will be holding the meet at Mulund which is next to Thane. :-) We plan to assemble at the address given below and then move on to a home nearby by 6.30 pm to continue to sit and chat till around 8.30 in the evening. It's planned to be the classic vanilla meet with flavours of all thrown in. * * * * * * Venue : Campus Café Restaurant, Gavanpaada, Mulund (East). Time: 6 pm. Date: Sunday 25 Mar 2007. Look out for a guy wearing a BLACK cap. * * * * * ** For those coming by train get down at Mulund Station, East side, and take a rickshaw to Gavanpaada; this is a minimum fare from the Station on the way towards the Eastern Express Highway. For those coming by the Eastern Express Highway turn in towards Mulund at the signal closest to Thane (the one that comes right after the Check Naka, if coming from Thane, or after the flyover at Airoli Link Road) . * * * * * * -Do get your friends along to make the event a success and to help them gain access to a group especially if they are not netizens. -You do not have to be out to the world to attend. This is a discreet event being held to promote clean safe social get- togethers of a non-sexual nature. Very few persons who will be attending the meet are out. -You need to be at least 18 yrs of age to attend. -There may be many persons at the meet who prefer being discreet or who may be still coming to terms with themselves; we request that all be sensitive and act and dress accordingly. * * * * * * See you all on Sunday! For more information: www.gaybombay.org. * * * * * *
Re: g_b Racism still an issue in the gay community ( ARTICLE)
I think South Asians have a very hard time in the Gulf region. Anglo-Indians have a hard time, too. I think South Asian men are the most handsome, but I also admire South Asian culture and I resist the reductionist belief that it's racist for a Caucasian to prefer Afghan, Indian, Iranian, Pakistani (etc.) men. Having said that, gay culture is based on a very middle class consumerist mindset, where lifestyle reigns supreme and relationships tend to be very status-oriented. That commodification-culture opens the door for all of the classist and racist daemons. STUART SAXTON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a mixed chap. anglo/indian...in the true mix, publicly school educated - From: Peter Joseph Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: g_b Racism still an issue in the gay community ( ARTICLE) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:08:44 - Everybody is racist. We all judge with our eyes, and we all have our own cultural things that we favor. It's natural to be that way but natural doesn't mean it's right, just and fair. I think we can overcome racism a lot by just trying to understand why we have those fears and attractions that we have. Then we can laugh at ourselves about it first. Laughing at yourself about things is a good first step in growing. Peter --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, veno anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Karwan, There still are some of us white guys who think darker men are da bomb. Their features and color are loved and admired. Sounds like reverse racism but I only look at personals for Asians South and East and Latinos, your're among the handsomest men around. Veno karwan khursheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are absolutely right! Here in Duabi, its the same like britain. I am from delhi working in Dubai for last two years. The first question they will ask you is whats your nationality? When you will say I am Indian. they will say sorry I am not into asian. sometimes no reply. I noticed it many times. Condition of Indian gays specially who are dark skin is very bad. They are most of the time neglected. Sometimes I taught them a lesson. The same guy who didnt chat with me knowing me Indian, chatted with me knowing that I am European. I made my id as 27-Eurpopean in mirc and I got the reply of that guy. He gave me his msn is and we chatted. He gave me his no without seeing me but i refused him saying sorry you are not my type. Most of the Arabs guy here are looking for Arbs. Few european like Indian. But I feel race is not the main issue. The main issue is how you look and how your stats is... rgds zaid - Original Message From: walnut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 8:59:15 PM Subject: g_b Racism still an issue in the gay community ( ARTICLE) Comment: Racism still an issue in the gay community I've encountered more cold shoulders and thanks, no thanks on Old Compton Street than Dating Direct or Gaydar. Click Here 8th March 2007 13:37 Comment Since coming to London last year, student Balaji Ravichandran has been impressed with the freedom that gay men enjoy here. As an Indian, though, Balaji has noticed that white gay men's attitudes to a guy like him can at times leave something to be desired. Sorry, not my type. This is probably the most frequented reply I've received on Gaydar - or DismayDar, as I choose to call it. Personally, I have nothing against the cruising website always busy with people (gay, straight, or otherwise) craving for sex. It is, in many ways, much better than the hypocrisy of people claiming to want longer relationships and not bothering to call again or return your messages. Indeed, having been in Britain only for a year now, I've rather enjoyed my frequent flings, thanks to the occasional few who don't mind my skin colour, or those who do not have Caucasians only in the Looking for column of their profiles. Yet, having used it for almost a year, along with a host of other dating websites, and having been a part of the gay scene (an unfortunate epithet) in London for an equal amount of time, I can't help thinking that there is subtle, yet very palpable racism within the community. When I mention this to many of my gay friends in the UK, they refuse to believe it. They point out that there are a significant number of interracial relationships within the gay community. I wholly agree. What's more, most of the men I've been with were white. In fact, I once admitted that if one wanted to see real and overt racism, one must go to the Berlin gay scenehow would you feel if people in their hundreds refuse to acknowledge you even exist? That's exactly how it felt - for me, anyway. But to
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http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=226560 POP CULTURE http://cities.expressindia.com/grfx/trans.gif Super dyke Xena-The Warrior Princess has serious competition as Batwoman goes lesbian http://www.expressindia.com/about/[EMAIL PROTECTED] om Georgina Maddox Many DC fans may not have heard of Batwoman, let alone know that she is going to re-emerge as a super dyke. Bruce Wayne's relative is coming out of the closet with a bang-at 5'10'', clad in red leather knee-high boots with spiked heels, flowing red hair, and a form-fitting black outfit. For those who don't know, the original Batwoman strip started in 1956 and was killed off in 1979. The new character will share the same name as her original alter ego, Kathy Kane. What was DC Comics thinking when they decided to resurrect the classic comic book character as a lesbian? In an online interview Dan DiDio, vice president and executive editor at DC said that the idea was to give Batwoman a different point of view. DC wanted to give her a more unique personality in the Bat-family. The unveiling of the new Batwoman is due to take place in July as part of an ongoing weekly series and already, there are quite a few opinions brewing in cyberspace and the cultural cauldron at home. The queer community is looking forward to have a superhero fully out of the closet. Shruti, coordinator of Humjinsi, a Mumbai-based outreach NGO for lesbian, bi- and transsexual women in India says that the idea of having a lesbian superhero is really empowering for the community. If there is a comic book featuring Batwoman as a lesbian I will surely pick it up. Moreover, it's great to see queer people being depicted in a positive light. It's pretty acceptable to have a sexy powerful woman as a lesbian, where as Marvel's attempt to introduce gay men as super heroes failed miserably, says Vikram, coordinator of Gay Bombay and major comic buff. Minor super heroes, like North Star, are part of the larger Justice League, but there has never been an established male gay super hero. So while Batwoman will cater to nerdy boys and butch lesbians, gay men have to make do with the hyper feminine boys of the YAWEE Manga genre. An online blogger on planetout.com takes a more tongue-in-cheek approach to the announcement. Wouldn't ugly people as heroes be more groundbreaking? asks the blogger. You know, a 200-pound woman, man with horseshoe hair loss pattern, people with cold sores, et cetera? DC seems to have its plate full fielding media calls and online outrage. All they have to say is: Judge after Batwoman is launched. trans.gif Description: GIF image
g_b Philippine gay cops told to camp it down
Philippine gay cops told to camp it down published Friday, March 23, 2007 Philippine police issued a warning this week to gay officers not to sway their hips or display other suggestive behavior while on duty or they could risk losing their jobs. If they sway their hips while marching, or if they engage in lustful conduct, I think that will be a ground for separation, Philippine National Police spokesman chief superintendent Samuel Pagdilao said Thursday. Pagdilao said the police department does not discriminate against gays, but will not hesitate to fire those who misbehave. As an institution, the PNP does not look at or interfere with one's sexual preference, Pagdilao told Manila Radio DZXL. But it does look at its members' conduct. If they behave within the norm, I don't think we'll have a problem. The Philippines has a reputation for http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2005/02/07/4 tolerance toward LGBT people; however, a party representing lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, and transgendered people was recently refused registration for May congressional elections on the grounds that it does not have nationwide chapters. Its members are appealing. (AP) Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Re: g_b Racism still an issue in the gay community ( ARTICLE)
I think South Asians have a very hard time in the Gulf region. Anglo-Indians have a hard time, too. I think South Asian men are the most handsome, but I also admire South Asian culture and I resist the reductionist belief that it's racist for a Caucasian to prefer Afghan, Indian, Iranian, Pakistani (etc.) men. Having said that, gay culture is based on a very middle class consumerist mindset, where lifestyle reigns supreme and relationships tend to be very status-oriented. That commodification- culture opens the door for all of the classist and racist daemons.
