Re: g_b Any good Counsellors in delhi for gay counselling ?

2008-04-14 Thread Manoj shroff
I agree with you completely.:-)

--- Manoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear I,

   one thing which nearly always works (an i hate to
 say this) is mothers luv we wretched children a bit
 too much and inspite of the child turning out to a
 fucked up criminal, she does not act aka Nargis in
 Mother India.

   Chances of her severing ties are low .very
 low. especially if our guy in question is the only
 son and it is not a huge family kinda affair at his
 end.

   I believe there will hardly be any cases anyone
 can say that their mothers threw them out of their
 houses and severed ties when they came out to
 thembrothers and fathers maybe (more becoz of
 the male ego here) but mothers .. naw...hez
 safe (sounds so bad and oppresive ... yes...but a
 fact).

   What normally does happen is that the mom,
 believing it to be in the best interest of her son
 from her point of view, will keep on coercing him to
 change and try to get married (ek baar kaushish to
 kar ke dekh le stuff), try a lot of emotional
 blackmail (and they r the masters in this
 anydayask daddy)

   Not often has this led to the gay guy  in question
 succumbing and spending his life thinking yeh kya
 kiyaa maine.

   Hence counselling if any is needed by ur friend.
 Naz (lajpat nagar) runs a phone helpline as well as
 a counselling centre. he may drop in.
   Better if he interacts with groups active in Delhi
 where he can get to know people who have been
 through these kinds of issues and know the pitfalls.

   There is a good group (gays and lezs both) which
 meets each sunday at Nehru park (NOT for cruising
 inspite of the fame the place has) for just a
 walk/jog.

   The mom, in her luv and her belief for what is
 right and best for her son, will really gain little
 for any counselor per se.
   The only help a mom can get  and i say it from
 experience. is if she gets to know that there
 are other families which have similar kids and have
 accepted them and the fact that her child is
 thinking and working on SETTLING with a guy whi will
 be there with him thru thick and thin 
 both these are beyond what u and a counselor can
 provide for now so better work on the earlier part.

   Rgds

   Manoj
   
 
 icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello friends,
 
 Recently, one of my gay friends (who is in his early
 thirties) came 
 out to his mother and, as is the situation in most
 cases, the mother 
 has not taken to it kindlymy pal thinks that
 worse-cum-worse,she 
 may even sever her ties with him, a thought which
 shatters him as he 
 is very close to her. He does not have a father. He
 doesn't have any 
 pillars of support in his immediate family or friend
 circle who can 
 stand by his side.Even though my friend is putting
 up a brave front, 
 I know that he requires assistance. Sitting in Bby,
 i can't do 
 anything, but for just being by his side on the
 phone as much as i 
 can.
 
 In view of the foregoing, can anyone please give me
 the names  
 contact details of some good counsellors in Delhi
 (preferably south 
 delhi), who'd be able to counsel the mother-son duo?
 More then the 
 son, the mother requires it, from whatever i could
 gather, to get to 
 terms with this revelation
 
 Thanks in advance to everyone.
 
 Regards,
 I
 
 
 

 
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Re: g_b Any good Counsellors in delhi for gay counselling ?

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj
Dear I,
   
  one thing which nearly always works (an i hate to say this) is mothers luv we 
wretched children a bit too much and inspite of the child turning out to a 
fucked up criminal, she does not act aka Nargis in Mother India.
   
  Chances of her severing ties are low .very low. especially if our guy in 
question is the only son and it is not a huge family kinda affair at his end.
   
  I believe there will hardly be any cases anyone can say that their mothers 
threw them out of their houses and severed ties when they came out to 
thembrothers and fathers maybe (more becoz of the male ego here) but 
mothers .. naw...hez safe (sounds so bad and oppresive ... yes...but a 
fact).
   
  What normally does happen is that the mom, believing it to be in the best 
interest of her son from her point of view, will keep on coercing him to change 
and try to get married (ek baar kaushish to kar ke dekh le stuff), try a lot 
of emotional blackmail (and they r the masters in this anydayask daddy)
   
  Not often has this led to the gay guy  in question succumbing and spending 
his life thinking yeh kya kiyaa maine.
   
  Hence counselling if any is needed by ur friend. Naz (lajpat nagar) runs a 
phone helpline as well as a counselling centre. he may drop in.
  Better if he interacts with groups active in Delhi where he can get to know 
people who have been through these kinds of issues and know the pitfalls.
   
  There is a good group (gays and lezs both) which meets each sunday at Nehru 
park (NOT for cruising inspite of the fame the place has) for just a walk/jog.
   
  The mom, in her luv and her belief for what is right and best for her son, 
will really gain little for any counselor per se.
  The only help a mom can get  and i say it from experience. is if she 
gets to know that there are other families which have similar kids and have 
accepted them and the fact that her child is thinking and working on SETTLING 
with a guy whi will be there with him thru thick and thin  both 
these are beyond what u and a counselor can provide for now so better work on 
the earlier part.
   
  Rgds
   
  Manoj
  

icarius_slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello friends,

Recently, one of my gay friends (who is in his early thirties) came 
out to his mother and, as is the situation in most cases, the mother 
has not taken to it kindlymy pal thinks that worse-cum-worse,she 
may even sever her ties with him, a thought which shatters him as he 
is very close to her. He does not have a father. He doesn't have any 
pillars of support in his immediate family or friend circle who can 
stand by his side.Even though my friend is putting up a brave front, 
I know that he requires assistance. Sitting in Bby, i can't do 
anything, but for just being by his side on the phone as much as i 
can.

In view of the foregoing, can anyone please give me the names  
contact details of some good counsellors in Delhi (preferably south 
delhi), who'd be able to counsel the mother-son duo? More then the 
son, the mother requires it, from whatever i could gather, to get to 
terms with this revelation

Thanks in advance to everyone.

Regards,
I



   

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