Re: g_b Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delh .we are all free- Aditya
Hey Elisabeth, your mails are always a pleasure..!! I will have to give a go bye to the invite for dinner and will have to miss the Malpuas. I am in Delhi, not Kolkata. :-( Best, Aditya B 2008/8/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now Aditya Dear - I do not think there is probably anything wrong with what this fine person was thinking...we are all free to have our thoughts.. Either our eminent moderator has posted something out of context.. Or possibly the writer is not adept in expressing him/her/tri self in a written format.. I have all sorts of scenarios that I could layout to explain what I think someone was trying to say to others.. I will give you one of my interpretations...but of course I am sure that I am either totally wrong or partially 'in error'.. And this does not in anyway negate the fact that I am not totally in support of the ideas found in my interpretation of the jumbled prose.. My Interpretation of Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delh First off I think Nigah is in Delhi...and that it is probably an organization of middle class youth fulminating about their inabilities of gaining access to a program that provides PhDs in Marxist Philosophy.. Secondly, I do not think they are espousing hetero or homo or even traditional Indian eunuch family styles and substance...but are trying to promote a transient 'do as one pleases' TG-homo-countercultural lifestyle that has been developed in Europe and the Americas over the last 40 years.. A lifestyle that appears to be very much appreciated by many of the boys in GayBombay...but without the tag of TG attached to it...you know GB is MSM not TG...no matter what position a person may find themself in in life.. My Reservation It appears to me that for any idea to flourish it must be an integral part of a successful and strong community.. Heteros, discrete homos and almost invisible hijra/eunuchs have been stable and often very successful members of Indian society for thousands of years.. Outlandish TG-counterculturalists (third sex??? in the Nigah posting???) have always existed in small number...but very seldom except for those in transient individual styles...which unless that individual is a ruler or social leader have very little good or bad effect upon the overall social culture of Hindusthan.. We all see weirdos on the street everyday...some well educated and living at home with mom and dad...and some sleeping in their own vomit on the roadside...but generally would you say are these people mentors or meteors??.. Aditya...where are you tomorrow night??? Rupa is with me in Denver for my annual visit and we are providing a full fledged Bengali dinner to many 'Nigah'-Type TG friends at my home...ending of course with Rupa's inimitable Malpoa.. Best.. Elizabeth In a message dated 8/23/2008 11:29:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3rd Sex??? Well I am homosexual and all that rest, but 3rd sex..!!?? What utter poppycock... Please tell the author that I'm the 666th sex if anything at all!!! Best, Aditya B 2008/8/23 gay_bombay moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delhi Third sex community has been trying to gain social acceptance in India. There exist many organisations working for legalising their sexual orientations. Nigah, one such group, has held a 10-day fest in Delhi to celebrate queer identities. *CJ: *Amy Mookerji , 59 minutes ago Views:*32* Comments:*0* THE THIRD sex community (that of homosexuals, lesbians etc) seems to be a courageous fraternity nowadays. Their empowerment goes back to the gay liberation movement which started during the 1960s. Today, their strength is no more miniscule. Their movement has become vocal and assertive in gaining better treatment in the society. They are referred to as 'queer communities'. Queerness is reflected in their thinking, their perspective towards life and their introduction of pseudo family system. There are organisations at present which have come together to work among these queer communities giving them a platform to showcase their talents to put forward their views and to make their queer bond stronger. 'Nigah' is one such group of queers. Following the success of its inaugural festival in 2007, it is back with the 'Nigah Queer Fest 2008' as Delhi's annual ten-day celebration of queerness. Started around August 11, the date of the first queer protest in Delhi 16 years ago, the 2008 festival includes an international film festival, a photo exhibition, interactive workshops and new publications. Collaborating with Max Mueller, they organised the photo exhibition 'Queer families, portraits and kinships' on August 12. This was organised with a motive to surpass knowledge, cultural production and social change among the like-minded people. Talking to one of the performers at the festival, 24-year-old Kama Maureemootoo, was
Re: g_b Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delh .we are all free- Aditya
Now Aditya Dear - I do not think there is probably anything wrong with what this fine person was thinking...we are all free to have our thoughts.. Either our eminent moderator has posted something out of context.. Or possibly the writer is not adept in expressing him/her/tri self in a written format.. I have all sorts of scenarios that I could layout to explain what I think someone was trying to say to others.. I will give you one of my interpretations...but of course I am sure that I am either totally wrong or partially 'in error'.. And this does not in anyway negate the fact that I am not totally in support of the ideas found in my interpretation of the jumbled prose.. My Interpretation of Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delh First off I think Nigah is in Delhi...and that it is probably an organization of middle class youth fulminating about their inabilities of gaining access to a program that provides PhDs in Marxist Philosophy.. Secondly, I do not think they are espousing hetero or homo or even traditional Indian eunuch family styles and substance...but are trying to promote a transient 'do as one pleases' TG-homo-countercultural lifestyle that has been developed in Europe and the Americas over the last 40 years.. A lifestyle that appears to be very much appreciated by many of the boys in GayBombay...but without the tag of TG attached to it...you know GB is MSM not TG...no matter what position a person may find themself in in life.. My Reservation It appears to me that for any idea to flourish it must be an integral part of a successful and strong community.. Heteros, discrete homos and almost invisible hijra/eunuchs have been stable and often very successful members of Indian society for thousands of years.. Outlandish TG-counterculturalists (third sex??? in the Nigah posting???) have always existed in small number...but very seldom except for those in transient individual styles...which unless that individual is a ruler or social leader have very little good or bad effect upon the overall social culture of Hindusthan.. We all see weirdos on the street everyday...some well educated and living at home with mom and dad...and some sleeping in their own vomit on the roadside...but generally would you say are these people mentors or meteors??.. Aditya...where are you tomorrow night??? Rupa is with me in Denver for my annual visit and we are providing a full fledged Bengali dinner to many 'Nigah'-Type TG friends at my home...ending of course with Rupa's inimitable Malpoa.. Best.. Elizabeth In a message dated 8/23/2008 11:29:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3rd Sex??? Well I am homosexual and all that rest, but 3rd sex..!!?? What utter poppycock...3rd Please tell the author that I'm the 666th sex if anything at all!!! Best, Aditya B 2008/8/23 gay_bombay moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Nigah holds fest to celebrate third sex in Delhi Third sex community has been trying to gain social acceptance in India. There exist many organisations working for legalising their sexual orientations. Nigah, one such group, has held a 10-day fest in Delhi to celebrate queer identities. CJ: Amy Mookerji , 59 minutes agoViews:32 Comments:0 THE THIRD sex community (that of homosexuals, lesbians etc) seems to be a courageous fraternity nowadays. Their empowerment goes back to the gay liberation movement which started during the 1960s. Today, their strength is no more miniscule. Their movement has become vocal and assertive in gaining better treatment in the society. They are referred to as 'queer communities'. Queerness is reflected in their thinking, their perspective towards life and their introduction of pseudo family system. There are organisations at present which have come together to work among these queer communities giving them a platform to showcase their talents to put forward their views and to make their queer bond stronger. 'Nigah' is one such group of queers. Following the success of its inaugural festival in 2007, it is back with the 'Nigah Queer Fest 2008' as Delhi's annual ten-day celebration of queerness. Started around August 11, the date of the first queer protest in Delhi 16 years ago, the 2008 festival includes an international film festival, a photo exhibition, interactive workshops and new publications. Collaborating with Max Mueller, they organised the photo exhibition 'Queer families, portraits and kinships' on August 12. This was organised with a motive to surpass knowledge, cultural production and social change among the like-minded people. Talking to one of the performers at the festival, 24-year-old Kama Maureemootoo, was interesting. He is a student, an amateur, but a passionate dancer. He was quite open and natural about his queerness since his
