Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-23 Thread hgjk hgkhj
Milton sir,

what part of being gay you enjoy and proud the most?





From: Mike Milton 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  
People have right to be proud of what they are as long as they adhere to moral 
standards . Why should they not be ? 

It is who I am and will be forever  So be proud my brethren !! No hiding 
and 
no curtains (but if you chose to remain closeted from society given your 
circumstances that is a personal choice and is okay) ... BUT NEVER FROM SELF 
 BE PROUD ...




From: hgjk hgkhj 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:42:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  
This is my first mail and do not want to offend anyone. These are just my 
personal opinions

Everytime i hear/read this statement "I am proud to be gay", i feel awkward. 
Even if i was hetro it wud be awkward for me to say "I am proud to be a hetro". 
I would be proud of things i earned and definately this state of mind so called 
"homo" is definately not i earned, it is just there by one reason or the other. 
So first of all "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.

But i think i agree with mike with the reason of having multiple partners. 
Society does not confirm the state of being gay and thats y most of the 
people like to have "discreet" liasons which makes us wild, unbounded, 
restless, 
limitless, pervert animals, which perfectly reason with as society does not 
confirm this sexuality, we will not confirm the rules made by it. There is no 
such things like commitment in our relationship as there is no society to look 
after it. 

Over this i would like to say commitment thing is never going to happen as the 
bond between man to man is joined by very weak force though it is equally weak 
as the bond between  man and woman but the later one is supported by other n 
number of factors one of those is kids. Kids become their common interest when 
other interest are lost or satiated. Now this is tricky part as now the faith 
on 
marriage is loosing its magic, people are gradually coming out of those rules 
which were there from the ages. So that means if the commitments by the natural 
sexuality is wanning how one can even think of plutonic love or just say love 
commitments.

Anyways..once again "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.


 



From: Mike Milton 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 3:16:25 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  
Well guys ...being gay does not mean one has been given licence to have extra 
marital sex or sex outside a partnership.

I for one does not go out of the relationship for marriage.

As we claim equality with heterosexuals, we need not only be equal to them in 
status but also in our behavior.  It is sad that if 95% of the gays are 
cheating 
and having sex as and when they choose with whoever they come across ... then 
we 
do not deserve equality.

Being gay makes me proud and moral ...

Mike.




From: mad cow 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:47:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  

 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have 
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to 
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt 
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or 
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each 
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there 
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be 
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other 
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of 
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone 
and 
after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others 
CHEERS. ---

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From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

  


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
>  
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
>main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
>kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
>to 
>sirf aur sirf akelapan hai

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-22 Thread Mike Milton
People have right to be proud of what they are as long as they adhere to moral 
standards . Why should they not be ? 

It is who I am and will be forever  So be proud my brethren !! No hiding 
and 
no curtains (but if you chose to remain closeted from society given your 
circumstances that is a personal choice and is okay) ... BUT NEVER FROM SELF 
 BE PROUD ...




From: hgjk hgkhj 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 9:42:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  
This is my first mail and do not want to offend anyone. These are just my 
personal opinions
 
Everytime i hear/read this statement "I am proud to be gay", i feel awkward. 
Even if i was hetro it wud be awkward for me to say "I am proud to be a hetro". 
I would be proud of things i earned and definately this state of mind so called 
"homo" is definately not i earned, it is just there by one reason or the other. 
So first of all "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.
 
But i think i agree with mike with the reason of having multiple partners. 
Society does not confirm the state of being gay and thats y most of the 
people like to have "discreet" liasons which makes us wild, unbounded, 
restless, 
limitless, pervert animals, which perfectly reason with as society does not 
confirm this sexuality, we will not confirm the rules made by it. There is no 
such things like commitment in our relationship as there is no society to look 
after it. 

Over this i would like to say commitment thing is never going to happen as the 
bond between man to man is joined by very weak force though it is equally weak 
as the bond between  man and woman but the later one is supported by other n 
number of factors one of those is kids. Kids become their common interest when 
other interest are lost or satiated. Now this is tricky part as now the faith 
on 
marriage is loosing its magic, people are gradually coming out of those rules 
which were there from the ages. So that means if the commitments by the natural 
sexuality is wanning how one can even think of plutonic love or just say love 
commitments.
 
Anyways..once again "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.
 
 
 


 
From: Mike Milton 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 3:16:25 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  
Well guys ...being gay does not mean one has been given licence to have extra 
marital sex or sex outside a partnership.

I for one does not go out of the relationship for marriage.

As we claim equality with heterosexuals, we need not only be equal to them in 
status but also in our behavior.  It is sad that if 95% of the gays are 
cheating 
and having sex as and when they choose with whoever they come across ... then 
we 
do not deserve equality.

Being gay makes me proud and moral ...

Mike.




 From: mad cow 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:47:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  

 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have 
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to 
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt 
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or 
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each 
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there 
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be 
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other 
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of 
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone 
and 
after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others  
CHEERS. 
---

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 From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

  


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
> Â 
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
>main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
>kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
>to 
>sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi hoga 
>mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai ke i 
>will try with a gril before i get married.
> Â 
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha ha

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-21 Thread hgjk hgkhj
This is my first mail and do not want to offend anyone. These are just my
personal opinions

Everytime i hear/read this statement "I am proud to be gay", i feel awkward.
Even if i was hetro it wud be awkward for me to say "I am proud to be a hetro".
I would be proud of things i earned and definately this state of mind so called
"homo" is definately not i earned, it is just there by one reason or the other.
So first of all "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.

But i think i agree with mike with the reason of having multiple partners.
Society does not confirm the state of being gay and thats y most of the
people like to have "discreet" liasons which makes us wild, unbounded, restless,
limitless, pervert animals, which perfectly reason with as society does not
confirm this sexuality, we will not confirm the rules made by it. There is no
such things like commitment in our relationship as there is no society to look
after it.

Over this i would like to say commitment thing is never going to happen as the
bond between man to man is joined by very weak force though it is equally weak
as the bond between  man and woman but the later one is supported by other n
number of factors one of those is kids. Kids become their common interest when
other interest are lost or satiated. Now this is tricky part as now the faith on
marriage is loosing its magic, people are gradually coming out of those rules
which were there from the ages. So that means if the commitments by the natural
sexuality is wanning how one can even think of plutonic love or just say love
commitments.

Anyways..once again "I proud to be a gay" is completely overstatement.


 
 



From: Mike Milton 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 3:16:25 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

Well guys ...being gay does not mean one has been given licence to have extra
marital sex or sex outside a partnership.

I for one does not go out of the relationship for marriage.

As we claim equality with heterosexuals, we need not only be equal to them in
status but also in our behavior.  It is sad that if 95% of the gays are cheating
and having sex as and when they choose with whoever they come across ... then we
do not deserve equality.

Being gay makes me proud and moral ...

Mike.




From: mad cow 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:47:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

 

 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone and
after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others
CHEERS. ---

Sponsored links: Rock Hard Erections. All New Formula Attacks the Root. Fast.
http://alternatemedicinestore2010.com/ar/sig






From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

 


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
>
> hello guys,
>  
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke
>main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga,
>kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
>to
>sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi hoga
>mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai ke i
>will try with a gril before i get married.
>  
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi, aur  aulad
>ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi khush rahenge, haan
>par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai.
>
>  
> sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota, shadi
>ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath nahi to
>ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
>  
> thanks
>  
> asif
>  
>
>  
> Asif Siddiqui
>
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
>
>
> From: hunydev d

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-19 Thread Aditya Bondyopadhyay
r str8 - the difference
>> lies n ability to have sex outside and still love his bf. As a frnd of
>> mine so nicely put, he does not love his mom's food less just because he
>> loves to eat out too! It depends if u see sex as simply or attach  mor
>> weightage to it. If u do u just need to spell it out (and pl try to give
>> ur bf as much leeway as u expect!)
>> Â
>> I completely agree with Madcow on one thing --- do what you want as it IS
>> your life but just remember not to take a seemingly short and shady
>> road fearing a ardous journey and discover the road led to a quagmire
>> only too late.
>> Â
>> Lastly Asif, will you be alone ahead --- likely not as all the gays who
>> are your age today are extremely unlikely to all get into a relation at
>> the same time or marry or commit suicide (i discount effects of an open
>> house session with madcow here ofcourse :-D )
>> Â
>> Cheers
>> Manoj
>>
>> --- On Sun, 13/3/11, mad cow  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: mad cow 
>> Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys
>> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 1:17 PM
>>
>>
>> Â
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz
>> i have seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the
>> same like to change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and
>> old so this doesnt happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have
>> relation with a man or women after marriage or vise versa with women end
>> of the day family needs each other but this will not happen in the gay
>> life, iam asking 95% gays is there anyone without having sex with multiple
>> partners ??? i challenge there wont be anyone in this 95% everyone must
>> have had multiple sex with one or the other hiding with gay partner so
>> Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of people its ur wish if
>> any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone and after alll its
>> life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others
>>
>> CHEERS. ---
>> Sponsored links: Rock Hard Erections. All New Formula Attacks the Root.
>> Fast. http://alternatemedicinestore2010.com/ar/sig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: boy_alone00 
>> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
>> Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys
>>
>> Â
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > hello guys,
>> > ÂÂ
>> > Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat
>> > nahi ke main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela
>> > hi rahoonga, kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze
>> > degi, use ke baad to sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi
>> > karta hoon to koi na koi hoga mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi
>> > baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai ke i will try with a gril before i get
>> > married.
>> > ÂÂ
>> > Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi,
>> > aur  aulad ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi
>> > khush rahenge, haan par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai.
>> > ÂÂ
>> > sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota,
>> > shadi ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath
>> > nahi to ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
>> > ÂÂ
>> > thanks
>> > ÂÂ
>> > asif
>> > ÂÂ
>> >
>> > ÂÂ
>> > Asif Siddiqui
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: hunydev dev 
>> > Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
>> > To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:57 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > ÂÂ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Asif
>> >
>> >
>> > i also read Ur story. i know its not Story ,Muje pata he aap ke Dil par
>> > Kya bit Rahihe .Asif Ye halat se me Gujar chuka hu or Mene apne aap ko
>> > Dhoka diya Na mante Huve Bhi Kisike jasbato se khela hoo.
>> >
>> > Asif M

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-18 Thread Mike Milton
Well guys ...being gay does not mean one has been given licence to have extra 
marital sex or sex outside a partnership.

I for one does not go out of the relationship for marriage.

As we claim equality with heterosexuals, we need not only be equal to them in 
status but also in our behavior.  It is sad that if 95% of the gays are 
cheating 
and having sex as and when they choose with whoever they come across ... then 
we 
do not deserve equality.

Being gay makes me proud and moral ...

Mike.




From: mad cow 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 1:47:27 AM
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

  

 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have 
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to 
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt 
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or 
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each 
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there 
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be 
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other 
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of 
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone 
and 
after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others  
CHEERS. 
---

Sponsored links: Rock Hard Erections. All New Formula Attacks the Root. Fast. 
http://alternatemedicinestore2010.com/ar/sig 






 From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

  


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
> Â 
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
>main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
>kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
>to 
>sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi hoga 
>mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai ke i 
>will try with a gril before i get married.
> Â 
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi, aur  
> aulad 
>ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi khush rahenge, haan 
>par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai. 
>
>  Â 
> sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota, 
> shadi 
>ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath nahi to 
>ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
> Â 
> thanks
> Â 
> asif
> Â 
> 
> Â 
> Asif Siddiqui
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: hunydev dev 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:57 AM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Asif 
> 
> 
> i also read Ur story. i know  its not Story ,Muje pata he aap ke Dil par Kya 
>bit Rahihe .Asif Ye halat se me Gujar chuka hu or Mene apne aap ko Dhoka diya 
>Na 
>mante Huve Bhi Kisike jasbato se khela hoo.
> 
> Asif Mera kahana he ki Aap shadi karte he Agar aap Apni Wife ke sath Jo apna 
>Sab kuch Chode ke aap ke family me aati he...Uske Sapne Hote He.Uske Armano ka 
>Gala Mat Ghotye.aap shadi to karlenge kal unko pata chal jayega or wo aap se 
>alag rahne lagegi  sochiye ki aabhi aap ke maa-bap ke liye aapni kurbani de 
>rahe he par jab aap ka rishta tutega tabhi aap ke maa bap ki izat sare samaj 
>me 
>uchalegi.wo aap ko zindgi bhar kosenge .or wo ladiki ki life barbad ho jayegi 
>.aap ak ladke ho shayd aap sabhal jayenge par wo aurat nahi sabhal payegi.wo 
>kabhi aap ko maph nahi karengi ..aap jabhi unko dekhoge to aap ne aap ko 
>kosoge 
>or sochenge shayd me unse shadi na karta. parents ki khushi ke liye aap shadi 
>karte he par kisike life se mat kheliye.
> 
> shayad muje  aap ko kahne ka koi hak nahi he par shayd kal ho na he usse 
> aacha 
>aaj hi apni bat aapne mum-dad ke samne rakhdo aap khulke bat karo ki me shadi 
>karta hoo to do jindgi barbad karta hooo..usase aacha he me aap ni life ki 
>karu..kal me kisiko jimedar nahi thahrana chahta hooo...
> 
> Aaj agar ye bat me apne parents se karta to aaj muje afsos nahi hota.
> 
> Asif do bar sochna  or decision lena baki life aap ki  
> 
> warm regards
> 
> saumya
> --- On Sat, 16/10/10, Ratish Dicunha  wrote:
> 

g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-18 Thread boy_alone00
Deep,


Thank you so much for your practical and caring advice.. but you know i feel 
the world that i have created for asif and me, i just want to live in it every 
moment.. though at the moment i miss him a lot always have tears just waiting 
to drop any moment.. but as days go by, as im getting ore and more busy with 
work.. i still always and always want to live in his world... but i want to 
turn these tears into smiles by just remembereing the best of memories of him.. 
remember his fsce his smile.. i want  to have him only in my mind and heart 
forever.. but also being ahppy and successful in life..

Deep, its true i have many guys around me, im not too good looking, but i have 
many guys including straight at work anywhere i go, while travelling guys say i 
have a charisma they cant resist.. get attracted to me wanna get close to me 
spend time with me and much more.. but the moment i feel anyone is trying to 
get closer to me, i draw a line and dont speak to them much, i somehow start 
hating that person.. its like inborn in me.. Asif or anyone never bonded me to 
him... but i feel know one except him has the the right to get closer to me.. 
not even to laugh with..

I am writing a book nowadays to keep myself busy, and not to drink.. i think 
ill get on track of carrier and job and sucess.. but yes my smile my inner 
happiness, i dont know when ill get it... though i trying too hard, to turn my 
tears into smile.. by only being his world.. hope this works..I just miss him 
so much.

Take Care Deep

--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "Deep"  wrote:
>
> Dear boy_alone00 (Randy),
> I appreciate your feelings for Asif. You have great love for him indeed.
> Asif  lives inside your heart and soul. That Asif who lives deep inside
> of you is the world's best partner that you can ever have.
> Many of us have gone through what you are going through, in varying
> degrees. Some of us have taken the agonizing steps and walked away from
> that lover who lives (and perhaps shall always live) deep within us.
> Without in anyway demeaning your true love for Asif I ask you to look
> without, in the real world, for a moment. The reality is that Asif does
> not, and probably never did, love you. That's the real Asif who lives
> outside your heart and soul. The real Asif has gone away from you and is
> living a life that he wants - in the real world.
> I don't have the authority or the knowledge to ask you to follow my
> advise. But I request you to think this through calmly. I know it is
> going to be difficult since Asif lives inside you all the time but try
> it any way. Think:
> 
> * Are you happy being sad? I mean, are you contented in a state of
> depression? Is that a natural feeling for you? Almost like it is part of
> your anatomy.
> * Have you woven good and bad memories of your time  spent with Asif
> into a cloth where you can't feel the good parts of the cloth without
> simultaneously feeling the bad parts? Since you constantly want to feel
> the good memories of Asif you welcome the bad ones?
> * Yes, you are certainly in love with Asif. But is he in love with
> you? Doesn't he have the right to love the person he cares for?
> * Is there someone right now who is desperate to love you but you are
> not letting him because you love Asif? Are you not being unjust to that
> unknown admirer and to yourself?
> * You have given your dream Asif a character, a persona, and
> attributed to him all the good qualities that are indeed projections of
> your own self.
> 
> Think about all those things (boy_alone00) Randy. Best of luck.
> Regards,Deephttp://gaynotes.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "boy_alone00" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dont you think Manoj, some people try to show thier intelligence in a
> different way, by advising people to have fun and cheer in life, when
> they are depressed, rather than giving them a root solutions..
> >
> > How long can the party go on, how long will you have sex and with how
> many, how long will you drink and drug, will the night not get over as
> it has to... and what will one do when he is so depressed, tied up when
> the party, sex and drink and drug is over... who will kill his
> loneliness..
> >
> > I was truly and am in true love with asif, i did meet others not out
> of urge, but only when i was frustrated, waiting for my lovers message..
> not replied in anger i got drunk couple of times..and only thing that
> came to mind was seducing a hot guy passing by any car and mate with
> him..than in the morning i would die with guilt and shame..
> > and making my lover go more far away thinking i am not being loyal to
> him..so would abuse him, irritate him and do crazy things so he could
> hate me..but this all was foolishness..evil what made me do things like
> that which i can never do.. because i love him so much and am totally
> dedicated to him..
> >
> > but yes i could i did and i am resisting, the hottest guy stands nude
> in front

g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-15 Thread boy_alone00
Dont you think Manoj, some people try to show thier intelligence in a different 
way, by advising people to have fun and cheer in life, when they are depressed, 
rather than giving them a root solutions..

How long can the party go on, how long will you have sex and with how many, how 
long will you drink and drug, will the night not get over as it has to... and 
what will one do when he is so depressed, tied up when the party, sex and drink 
and drug is over... who will kill his loneliness.. 

I was truly and am in true love with asif, i did meet others not out of urge, 
but only when i was frustrated, waiting for my lovers message.. not replied in 
anger i got drunk couple of times..and only thing that came to mind was 
seducing a hot guy passing by any car and mate with him..than in the morning i 
would die with guilt and shame..
and making my lover go more far away thinking i am not being loyal to him..so 
would abuse him, irritate him and do crazy things so he could hate me..but this 
all was foolishness..evil what made me do things like that which i can never 
do.. because i love him so much and am totally dedicated to him.. 

but yes i could i did and i am resisting, the hottest guy stands nude in front 
of me cannot shake me... my lover is not around he has left the city, not 
called me.. i dont know where he is gone..
but im still waiting and will wait.. money, sex, guys, wealth all can come.. 
but peace can only come when you are loved by someone truly..

Today i have everything.. can get even lots more, party guys, sex, wealth.. but 
i just drink but dont loose my senses and go for sex wth anyone... just drink 
till i sleep thinking of him...

So As per Mr Mad Cow, or any other guys who think this way, that enjoyment 
canbring peace...than you guys are WRONG

I HAVE EVERYTHING BUT NOT PEACE.. BECAUSE I DONT HAVE MY LOVER ANYMORE
I CAN GET MANY OTHER LOVERS, BUT THEY CANT BE MY LOVERS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT 
ASIF.

THANK YOU.
RANDY
--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Manoj  wrote:
>
> Mad cow
> How many such men have you known so and how is interesting.
> And how many gay men have u known who are into relationships -- maybe your 
> survey will help us all (if you survey is based on a sample drawn from gaydar 
> or such you will surely recognise that the same is spurious, rt?)
> I have known a decent amount of men in my times (in all sorts of ways in 
> case one wants to know) and do have some different opinions.
>  
>  
> Here we are talking of 2 things
> 1- being gay and not marrying a girl
> 2- being in a monogamous relation --gay or str
>  
>  
> 1-
> Being gay and not marrying a girl is a matter of your own conscience and 
> right to freedom. Is the road to freedom ever easy. i guess not for most. I 
> had the same thoughts and doubts and fears as Asif had some time back. I 
> decided to stick to my freedom (largely helped by all te guys i met at GB 
> then for which i do not know how to thank em all). It was not an easy way for 
> some months at home -- but today myself and my family (and i hope my bf :p) 
> are happy about this decision. And i know several such cases.
>  
> 2- Being monogamous
> This is a very personal thing. Some men are monogamous, some are not. for 
> some open relatiosn work, for some it works only if the bf is monogamous and 
> for some its no fun to stick to just one person for sex. But in case where a 
> person is ok with an open relation - gay or str8 - the difference lies n 
> ability to have sex outside and still love his bf. As a frnd of mine so 
> nicely put, he does not love his mom's food less just because he loves to eat 
> out too! It depends if u see sex as simply or attach  mor weightage to it. 
> If u do u just need to spell it out (and pl try to give ur bf as much leeway 
> as u expect!)
>  
> I completely agree with Madcow on one thing --- do what you want as it IS 
> your life but just remember not to take a seemingly short and shady road 
> fearing a ardous journey and discover the road led to a quagmire only too 
> late.
>  
> Lastly Asif, will you be alone ahead --- likely not as all the gays who are 
> your age today are extremely unlikely to all get into a relation at the same 
> time or marry or commit suicide (i discount effects of an open house session 
> with madcow here ofcourse :-D )
>  
> Cheers
> Manoj
> 
> --- On Sun, 13/3/11, mad cow  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: mad cow 
> Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 1:17 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i 
> have seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same 
> like to change partners afte five months when fr

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-14 Thread Manoj
Mad cow
How many such men have you known so and how is interesting.
And how many gay men have u known who are into relationships -- maybe your 
survey will help us all (if you survey is based on a sample drawn from gaydar 
or such you will surely recognise that the same is spurious, rt?)
I have known a decent amount of men in my times (in all sorts of ways in 
case one wants to know) and do have some different opinions.
 
 
Here we are talking of 2 things
1- being gay and not marrying a girl
2- being in a monogamous relation --gay or str
 
 
1-
Being gay and not marrying a girl is a matter of your own conscience and right 
to freedom. Is the road to freedom ever easy. i guess not for most. I had the 
same thoughts and doubts and fears as Asif had some time back. I decided to 
stick to my freedom (largely helped by all te guys i met at GB then for which i 
do not know how to thank em all). It was not an easy way for some months at 
home -- but today myself and my family (and i hope my bf :p) are happy about 
this decision. And i know several such cases.
 
2- Being monogamous
This is a very personal thing. Some men are monogamous, some are not. for some 
open relatiosn work, for some it works only if the bf is monogamous and for 
some its no fun to stick to just one person for sex. But in case where a person 
is ok with an open relation - gay or str8 - the difference lies n ability to 
have sex outside and still love his bf. As a frnd of mine so nicely put, he 
does not love his mom's food less just because he loves to eat out too! It 
depends if u see sex as simply or attach  mor weightage to it. If u do u just 
need to spell it out (and pl try to give ur bf as much leeway as u expect!)
 
I completely agree with Madcow on one thing --- do what you want as it IS your 
life but just remember not to take a seemingly short and shady road fearing 
a ardous journey and discover the road led to a quagmire only too late.
 
Lastly Asif, will you be alone ahead --- likely not as all the gays who are 
your age today are extremely unlikely to all get into a relation at the same 
time or marry or commit suicide (i discount effects of an open house session 
with madcow here ofcourse :-D )
 
Cheers
Manoj

--- On Sun, 13/3/11, mad cow  wrote:


From: mad cow 
Subject: Re: g_b Re: thank you guys
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 1:17 PM


  







 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have 
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to 
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt 
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or 
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each 
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there 
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be 
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other 
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of 
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone 
and after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others
 
CHEERS. ---
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From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

  



--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
>  
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
> main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
> kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
> to sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi 
> hoga mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai 
> ke i will try with a gril before i get married.
>  
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi, aur  
> aulad ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi khush 
> rahenge, haan par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai. 
>  
> sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota, 
> shadi ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath nahi 
> to ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
>  
> thanks
>  
> asif
>  
> 
>  
> Asif Siddiqui
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: hunydev dev 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:5

Re: g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-13 Thread mad cow

 Hi Asif, whatever u wrote everything is rite i support u for that becoz i have 
seen gay life its just funnn nothing more then that 95% gays r the same like to 
change partners afte five months when fruit get rotten and old so this doesnt 
happens in the hetro sexual life, even a man will have relation with a man or 
women after marriage or vise versa with women end of the day family needs each 
other but this will not happen in the gay life, iam asking 95% gays is there 
anyone without having sex with multiple partners ??? i challenge there wont be 
anyone in this 95% everyone must have had multiple sex with one or the other 
hiding with gay partner so Asif go ahead what u think of ur life dont think of 
people its ur wish if any sin is there its u who going to bear it not anyone 
and 
after alll its life Enjoy it fully dont bother about others 
CHEERS. ---

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From: boy_alone00 
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:18:52 AM
Subject: g_b Re: thank you guys

  


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
>  
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
>main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
>kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
>to 
>sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi hoga 
>mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai ke i 
>will try with a gril before i get married.
>  
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi, aur  
> aulad 
>ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi khush rahenge, haan 
>par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai. 
>
>  
> sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota, 
> shadi 
>ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath nahi to 
>ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
>  
> thanks
>  
> asif
>  
> 
>  
> Asif Siddiqui
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: hunydev dev 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:57 AM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Asif 
> 
> 
> i also read Ur story. i know its not Story ,Muje pata he aap ke Dil par Kya 
> bit 
>Rahihe .Asif Ye halat se me Gujar chuka hu or Mene apne aap ko Dhoka diya Na 
>mante Huve Bhi Kisike jasbato se khela hoo.
> 
> Asif Mera kahana he ki Aap shadi karte he Agar aap Apni Wife ke sath Jo apna 
>Sab kuch Chode ke aap ke family me aati he...Uske Sapne Hote He.Uske Armano ka 
>Gala Mat Ghotye.aap shadi to karlenge kal unko pata chal jayega or wo aap se 
>alag rahne lagegi  sochiye ki aabhi aap ke maa-bap ke liye aapni kurbani de 
>rahe he par jab aap ka rishta tutega tabhi aap ke maa bap ki izat sare samaj 
>me 
>uchalegi.wo aap ko zindgi bhar kosenge .or wo ladiki ki life barbad ho jayegi 
>.aap ak ladke ho shayd aap sabhal jayenge par wo aurat nahi sabhal payegi.wo 
>kabhi aap ko maph nahi karengi ..aap jabhi unko dekhoge to aap ne aap ko 
>kosoge 
>or sochenge shayd me unse shadi na karta. parents ki khushi ke liye aap shadi 
>karte he par kisike life se mat kheliye.
> 
> shayad muje aap ko kahne ka koi hak nahi he par shayd kal ho na he usse aacha 
>aaj hi apni bat aapne mum-dad ke samne rakhdo aap khulke bat karo ki me shadi 
>karta hoo to do jindgi barbad karta hooo..usase aacha he me aap ni life ki 
>karu..kal me kisiko jimedar nahi thahrana chahta hooo...
> 
> Aaj agar ye bat me apne parents se karta to aaj muje afsos nahi hota.
> 
> Asif do bar sochna  or decision lena baki life aap ki  
> 
> warm regards
> 
> saumya
> --- On Sat, 16/10/10, Ratish Dicunha  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Ratish Dicunha 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: ur_sweet_ashu@...
> Date: Saturday, 16 October, 2010, 11:31 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Aap India mein  kahan  se hoo agar aap Mumbai se ho to aap bindas hoote  
> aur 
>ma ku keyte  "ma ab India mein admi  admi se shadi kerne ki chut kaide se di 
>gahi hey to mein ek mere bachpanke dost se shadi kar ta hoon" Aur fir bi na 
>mane 
>to gar chodke kahin dur bagjaoo jut mut ki shadi karo gar pe tasvire behjo aur 
>chiti  mein lik lo" mein  kush hun mhuje dh

g_b Re: thank you guys

2011-03-12 Thread boy_alone00


--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, asif sidd  wrote:
>
> 
> hello guys,
>  
> Thank you very much for all your sugesstions, per mujh mein wo himmat nahi ke 
> main shadi na kroon, agar shadi nahi karta hoon to kal ko akela hi rahoonga, 
> kyon ki gay life to jab tak jawani aur khoobsoorti hai maze degi, use ke baad 
> to sirf aur sirf akelapan hai life mein, agar shadi karta hoon to koi na koi 
> hoga mera apna, mere maa baap ke baad, rahi baat sex ki, main decide kiya hai 
> ke i will try with a gril before i get married.
>  
> Mujhe kisi ne kaha hai ke, aurat ko ek aulad dedo wo khush rahegi, aur  
> aulad ke hone se tum par bhi koi shaq nahi karega,maa baap bhi khush 
> rahenge, haan par dohri zindagi jini padegi ye baat to hai. 
>  
> sucide ke khayal to aate rahte hain, par duniya mein kya kuch nahi hota, 
> shadi ke baad bhi extra marital affairs to hote hi hain, ladki ke saath nahi 
> to ladke  ke saath hi, par pata nahi chalne dena chye kisi ko.
>  
> thanks
>  
> asif
>  
> 
>  
> Asif Siddiqui
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/18/10, hunydev dev  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: hunydev dev 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:57 AM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Asif 
> 
> 
> i also read Ur story. i know its not Story ,Muje pata he aap ke Dil par Kya 
> bit Rahihe .Asif Ye halat se me Gujar chuka hu or Mene apne aap ko Dhoka diya 
> Na mante Huve Bhi Kisike jasbato se khela hoo.
> 
> Asif Mera kahana he ki Aap shadi karte he Agar aap Apni Wife ke sath Jo apna 
> Sab kuch Chode ke aap ke family me aati he...Uske Sapne Hote He.Uske Armano 
> ka Gala Mat Ghotye.aap shadi to karlenge kal unko pata chal jayega or wo aap 
> se alag rahne lagegi  sochiye ki aabhi aap ke maa-bap ke liye aapni kurbani 
> de rahe he par jab aap ka rishta tutega tabhi aap ke maa bap ki izat sare 
> samaj me uchalegi.wo aap ko zindgi bhar kosenge .or wo ladiki ki life barbad 
> ho jayegi .aap ak ladke ho shayd aap sabhal jayenge par wo aurat nahi sabhal 
> payegi.wo kabhi aap ko maph nahi karengi ..aap jabhi unko dekhoge to aap ne 
> aap ko kosoge or sochenge shayd me unse shadi na karta. parents ki khushi ke 
> liye aap shadi karte he par kisike life se mat kheliye.
> 
> shayad muje aap ko kahne ka koi hak nahi he par shayd kal ho na he usse aacha 
> aaj hi apni bat aapne mum-dad ke samne rakhdo aap khulke bat karo ki me shadi 
> karta hoo to do jindgi barbad karta hooo..usase aacha he me aap ni life ki 
> karu..kal me kisiko jimedar nahi thahrana chahta hooo...
> 
> Aaj agar ye bat me apne parents se karta to aaj muje afsos nahi hota.
> 
> Asif do bar sochna  or decision lena baki life aap ki  
> 
> warm regards
> 
> saumya
> --- On Sat, 16/10/10, Ratish Dicunha  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Ratish Dicunha 
> Subject: Re: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: ur_sweet_ashu@...
> Date: Saturday, 16 October, 2010, 11:31 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Aap India mein  kahan  se hoo agar aap Mumbai se ho to aap bindas hoote  
> aur ma ku keyte  "ma ab India mein admi  admi se shadi kerne ki chut kaide 
> se di gahi hey to mein ek mere bachpanke dost se shadi kar ta hoon" Aur fir 
> bi na mane to gar chodke kahin dur bagjaoo jut mut ki shadi karo gar pe 
> tasvire behjo aur chiti  mein lik lo" mein  kush hun mhuje dhunne ki 
> kosihc  met karo chiti dur ilake se post karna met bhulyega.
> 
> 
> 
> From: asif sidd 
> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 5:49:59 PM
> Subject: g_b I too need help- i think i am gona be in big trouble
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello guys,
>  
> My name is irfan, me to a gay, i am from a tredtitional muslim familiy and 
> "indian" too, so you people can understand how the things go in india, we 
> have to and have to  get married one day, i am 26 now and my familiy was 
> asking for the marriage from last two years but i use to tell them not now, 
> not now.
> my mother started worrying about marriage as my younger  and elder brothers 
> got married,  and due to that tension she was not keeping well, due to this 
> i got blackmailed emotionally and finally i said yes to marriage (The thing 
> which i dont wanted to do), so after getting a green signal from my side my 
> mother started tyo search a good girl for me and she found, she is sweet 
> innocent beutifull girl, and the recently i got engaged. i am not sure what 
> to do on my first wedding night as i am not attracted towards girls, when it 
> comes to guys i am a "superman" but with girls everything is down, when i 
> look at my wedding ring which i am wearing right now, i dont know whats gona 
> happen in the future,
>  
> Guys kya karoon yaar, bahoot jyada pareshan hoon, agar sab kuch chhod ke apni 
> tarah se life jieoonga to maa baap ko bahoot dukhi karoonga, which i dont 
> want to do, agar shaidi karoonga to use ladki ko bhi aur apne aap ko bhi 
> du