Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]
Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]
Why has this e-mail been crossposted to the gender gap list? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Hi Romana, CC'ing the list into threads like this falls outside of our charter, which you can read at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap . Please stop doing it. If you want to start a discussion thread on this issue that's fine, but please don't cross-post to threads like this. Thanks, -Leigh, wearing my moderator hat. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Leigh Honeywell http://hypatia.ca @hypatiadotca ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Personal attacks are not permitted on Wikipedia. On Nov 18, 2014 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Hello the moderators, I think the legal threats implied in this e-mail (and the other) are sufficient to warrant moderating the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Yeah, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the gender gap. Please moderate the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:27 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I was going back and forth on speaking up myself, but I concur. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello the moderators, I think the legal threats implied in this e-mail (and the other) are sufficient to warrant moderating the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Please moderate or even remove access to this list. Risker On 18 November 2014 16:52, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yeah, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the gender gap. Please moderate the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:27 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I was going back and forth on speaking up myself, but I concur. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello the moderators, I think the legal threats implied in this e-mail (and the other) are sufficient to warrant moderating the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Mod bit set. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Please moderate or even remove access to this list. Risker On 18 November 2014 16:52, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yeah, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the gender gap. Please moderate the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:27 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I was going back and forth on speaking up myself, but I concur. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello the moderators, I think the legal threats implied in this e-mail (and the other) are sufficient to warrant moderating the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/arbcom-appeals-en ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues
Thank you everyone for looking out and thanks Leigh for using your moderator powers. -Sarah On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Leigh Honeywell le...@hypatia.ca wrote: Mod bit set. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Please moderate or even remove access to this list. Risker On 18 November 2014 16:52, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yeah, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the gender gap. Please moderate the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:27 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I was going back and forth on speaking up myself, but I concur. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello the moderators, I think the legal threats implied in this e-mail (and the other) are sufficient to warrant moderating the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Davies From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee#Members I observe you are an inactive Member of this alleged committee. I hence suspect that your email is bogus. Accordingly I would appreciate receiving a signed email, or even a scanned signed email clearly given on behalf of the Arbitration Committee listing its physical address for service of legal process. I am shocked by the casual and secretive approach adopted to such concerns of child pornography, especially when it was previously made on another website http://wikipediocracy.com, naming 2 of your users Sitush and Bishonen using sexually colored language and referring to child pornography on your website. This Sitush is a serial stalker and harasser of female Wikipedia editors as your Arbcom knows well.. It is certainly strange that I was blocked as a sock puppet at the instance of these same 2 users (1 of whom is your Admin) when I brought that message to their attention. It seems Wikipedia actively discourages reporting such sexual harassment to Admins and wipes out all trace of it from public gaze, to the extent of terminating the account of the person who reported me for being an alleged sockpuppet.. It is even stranger that you will not disclose / specify the multiple accounts and IPs I am accused of using as an alleged sock puppet or why I am accused of being an India Against Corruption sockpuppet when I have never edited any page concerned with that body. It is very strange that Arbcom will not comply with its own policies for this. . It is clear that the Arbcom is covering up the actions of its anonymous users implicated in child pornography by another website. I urge you to reconsider as I firmly intend to pursue this matter and investigate all your own antecedents on your inactions.. On 11/19/14, Roger Davies roger.davies.w...@gmail.com wrote: Romana Busse: This is to acknowledge receipt of your emails of yesterday and today. The Arbitration Committee is unable to assist you further in this matter. Any further communications should be sent to: le...@wikimedia.org Roger Davies Arbitration Committee On 18/11/2014 15:41, Romana Busse wrote: Dear Anthony (AGK) I'm very sorry to bother you, but could I have a timeline with respect to deletion, or not, of those images ? With the welfare of the children in mind, I feel that the school, the children's parents and the local child welfare committees, magistrates and police should be properly sensitized to the incidents of that day, and to ensure it cannot reoccur I'm sure the police and the Indian Govt Cyber Advisory Committee would be interested in learning from you or NYBrad the finer points of law whereby Citizendium encyclopedia decides to completely wipes out the images within 12 hours but Wikipedia has not done anything till now on identical complaint. I would also like to know by when you will publish across all Wikipedia projects the complete list of accounts and IPs I have allegedly used, and also if I am a sockpuppet of User:MehulWB as alleged or not. This is required by your same policy WP:SOCK under which was blocked. Thanks On 11/18/14, Romana Busse romana.bu...@gmail.com wrote: This is about a potential threat to clearly identifiable Indian minor school children whose images are retained on WMF servers in USA and India despite legal notice to remove them. Taken within their school (where their parents expected the same degree of privacy as they enjoy at home) and uploaded without their permission, consent or knowledge, at a location where they allegedly viewed grossly obscene pornography accessed on a Wikimedia Foundation service which has now been disabled on complaint by a body called [[India Against Corruption]]. ___ ArbCom-appeals-en mailing list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BASC
