Re: [Gendergap] Pregnancy article lead-image RFC
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 01:33, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Do we have an article on that women's club somewhere in England that, one year, put out their annual calendar showing them going about their regular club activities (gardening, tea, etc.) nude? IIRC, they were all in their fifties and sixties at the time, and the calendar sold quite well. I wish I could remember more details. Here's what I found, not sure if it's what you had in mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_Girls#Inspiration http://leukaemialymphomaresearch.org.uk/get-involved/calendar-girls/calendar-girls-story -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Weird lame body fashion whatever website of the, day
ourmed.org (a MediaWiki wiki) is in NYC and they've come to several of our meetups. (wiki seems kinda dead or at least dormant; per their recentchanges, they seem to have done spam and vandal fighting every day in the last 2 weeks but there's no actual content work for 2 weeks straight AFAICT. of course, that's not really relevant to them having contacts to help with this and I think there's a good chance they would have some.) Their director is GMiller1965 @ enwp. Let me or Pharos know if you'd like us to make an introduction. -Jeremy On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:09, Nicole Willson artisticaltru...@gmail.com wrote: There are some medical wikis out there that might be good to collaborate with: http://askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Physician_Medical_Wiki http://www.medpedia.com/ - This one looks like they also have a Quora like system that lets you ask questions. If those methods don't work, I know a gyno I could contact. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know a medical doctor/gyno who can perhaps provide some type of documentation/review of the content? Not sure if it would ever matter...but, a solid letter and such could help maybe.. I haven't looked at the article, I admit, it's a subject I'm not comfortable examining Another example of why medical support could be beneficial to Wikipedia as a whole. Sarah (Stierch) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Deterrent
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 14:58, Mig migdia.chi...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that men editors have targeted me for and with their biases and have done everything they could to humiliate me publicly , which acts as a deterrent to female editors who are not well connected with wikipedia ranks. Please refer to my page. Thank u. Migdia Chinea Sent from Migdia's iPhone I assume you're referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Migdiachinea , is that right? Just so people don't have to go searching to find what you're talking about. -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Techies You Decide! You're either a feminist or a misogynist - by Trevor Owens
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 13:09, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.trevorowens.org/2011/12/techies-you-decide-you’re-either-a-feminist-or-a-misogynist/ evil, evil smart quotes. http://www.trevorowens.org/2011/12/techies-you-decide-you%E2%80%99re-either-a-feminist-or-a-misogynist/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] What are the Poles, Slovenes, Russians and Portuguese doing right in regards to the gender gap?
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 02:45, Béria Lima beria.l...@wikimedia.pt wrote: Laura, in pt case I can imagine the wp number to be right (or close enough), but from where did you took the wikimedia one? pt.wikimedia.org is a redirect to wikimedia.pt it is a redirect but it's also a wiki with content and therefore a database and therefore gender stats! see back door: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/pt/wiki/Wikimedia_Portugal :) -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Thoughts on training and gender and training generally
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 08:43, Gillian White whiteghost@gmail.com wrote: I have reformatted my comments about training so they are less a report and more of a guideline, added some additional material and posted it here http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Best_practices_in_training_adults The idea was to make it useful as a reference. See also http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/TAO (the swiss chapter and maybe another are working on that project) -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Sandra Ordonez sandratordo...@gmail.com wrote: the uk chairman band was mentioned in daily dot today http://dly.do/M9K4Sv Ugh, please, please, please just start a new thread from scratch (send an email to gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org ) if it's unrelated to an existing thread. (You did change the subject which was nice but not enough!) Thanks, Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] You Guys Made Me Smile
On Mar 7, 2013 8:43 PM, Sandra ordonez sandratordo...@gmail.com wrote: So tonight I'm at an event, and begin to chat with two amazing women...at the end of the evening one of them mentions: Did you hear that there is a feminist take over of wikipedia event on the 15th? It made me smile and think; WOW these ladies are kicking ass :) Must be http://feminismseast2013.thatcamp.org/schedule/ (it's 3 simultaneous cities this year. NYC, Scripps College (Claremont, CA), Atlanta, GA) They gave a talk at Wikipedia Day this year. They had an editathon last year as well but it was during the Berlin conference so Richard and I missed it. -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] start Porno related list?? can the Commons images thread move?
On May 18, 2013 2:14 AM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: How about starting a list just for these porno related discussions? Most women won't find these photos to be turned off by them, so it is slightly off topic. Just announce a new thread here and then people who want to discuss can join that list. I'm seriously thinking of dropping off because it's just too much... Looping in the mailman so he can remind us of the usual reasons for and against creating a new list. (or splitting a list) I personally don't care much if it's split but OTOH I haven't read all the recent threads either. -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Changing the Chelsea Manning article (and how women were shouted down)
On Sep 5, 2013 6:55 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Secondly, redirects are expensive - not to those in the Western world with fast computers and high speed internet, but to those who are on dial-up or have comparatively high lag times because of distance (lots of people at Wikimania had difficulty getting good access to Wikipedia during their stay in Hong Kong, for example). A redirect means that the reader must first load up the redirect page and then follow the redirect instruction and wind up on the intended page. I don't think we pay nearly enough attention to the comparatively poor performance from WMF that our Asian, African, and South American colleagues experience; we're terribly spoiled. that's not how redirects work on Wikipedia. (at least for a redirect directly to a page with content… double redirects, i.e. a redirect to a redirect which then points to a real page it is more like how you described. but we have bots and special: pages for fixing double redirects) we serve a 200 with a little hatnote that says it was a redirect and otherwise serve the same content as if they had visited the canonical name directly. i.e. we don't currently send a 30x to the canonical name and the alternative name remains in the URL in the user's location bar. the actual timing difference client-side should be smaller than anything a human could detect. (or too small for a computer to notice? idk if anyone's done a study) -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Fwd: [Multimedia] NSFW image searches
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org Date: May 16, 2014 2:25 AM Subject: [Multimedia] NSFW image searches To: multimedia multime...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: For those of you who are not following wikimedia-l: you might be interested in this discussion about searches with harmless keywords bringing up very NSFW images (an old and highly controversial topic): http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/71770/focus=71903 (I am linking the (currently) last few mails of the thread; the discussion leading up to them is also interesting, but terribly long.) ___ Multimedia mailing list multime...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikidata, gamification and gender
FYI, msg from another list below. -Jeremy -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com Date: May 21, 2014 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] micro-contributions on mobile via wikidata To: Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com Cc: mobile-l mobil...@lists.wikimedia.org On May 21, 2014 9:55 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On May 21, 2014 9:07 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Most of these games would be great in a mobile context. The current design is already responsive - but I wasn't able to actually get the OAuth authorization to work on mobile, at least not on Firefox/Android :( I just did it with Firefox. I think I first hit allow on desktop MediaWiki and then got an application connection error from mobile. Unknown OAuth key, E006. Then went back to tool labs, hit the button again and back to desktop MediaWiki. Now the dialog had some bad styles or something so some of the text was hidden and I couldn't see the buttons at all. Manually changed URL from www.mediawiki.org → m.mediawiki.org and then authorized through mobilefrontend and finally got the game working. A couple more issues (but not strictly mobile things): * You may want to avoid merges/same item tasks until https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_deletionsoldid=132186913is resolved. * Can we force HTTPS for the game so we're not leaking usernames over cleartext HTTP? (not just because the edits can be correlated with who was asked about them but also the game interface displays your username and a user could do Wikidata actions in your name if they got your HTTP cookie in the clear) Thanks -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
On Jun 30, 2014 10:27 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: I've never been suspended (whatever that means) by anyone or anything. If you're talking about me..? Before I'm the victim of any BLP violations ;) I do know sometimes get Sarah (Slim Virgin) and myself confused (which I take as a compliment :) ) For the record, the quote in question was SlimVirgin. -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
On Jun 30, 2014 11:14 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: Jeremy, which quote is this? I recall someone on this list saying that someone called Sarah was suspended (unclear what's meant) for an off-wiki comment. (Or something like that; I can't find the original.) I can't think of how that might apply to me, and Sarah Stierch has said it doesn't apply to her. See this message from earlier on this thread: On Jun 29, 2014 8:30 PM Eastern, Marie Earley eir...@hotmail.com wrote: My apologies it was Carol Moore responding to Sarah Stierch earlier on, I mentioned it from memory, http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-June/004397.html If you follow Marie's link and then dig up the original message quoted at the link from Sarah you'll find it was SlimVirgin not Sarah Stierch (Marie apparently misattributed). I haven't read all the mails, just did a bit of digging. -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Marie Earley eir...@hotmail.com wrote: Gosh, I did make a pig's ear out of it didn't I. I didn't realize the list had two Sarahs on it. More than two I'm sure :-) Thank you Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/make_a_pig%27s_ear_of -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Zoë Wicomb or Clive Cussler?
also discussed on the talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:October_(novel) -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Noiva do Cordeiro
On Aug 27, 2014 1:55 PM, Krystle krys...@wikihow.com wrote: Is this for real? http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/town-entire-population-made-up-4113722 And if so, should there be a Wikipedia entry about it? I started to draft one but am a little worried because there seems to be only one article about this mysterious town. Hoax, maybe. I didn't get any hits in either of * https https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/:// https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ * http:// http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz/geonames.nga.mil http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz// http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz/ namesgaz http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz// http://geonames.nga.mil/namesgaz/ Maybe there's a Brazilian DB to check? (CC Oona :) ) -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF
On Nov 25, 2014 2:48 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: could there ever be any legal repercussion - like the real legal system, not an internet community - that could be taken to support a person who should not be banned from a website? like carol? If you're called lots of nasty names, if men aren't being banned, etc but women are, blahblahblah - that's sexist and discrimination IMHO. There's a few options, sticks and a carrot. But I don't think any of them are appropriate here. I'm not even sure if solutions to the arbcom mess(es) should come from the foundation at all. Stick: find a law that would be violated by such a ban. maybe in order to have standing, the banned user would herself have to be party to the suit. (i.e. couldn't be filed by an arbitrary bystander) I doubt such a law exists. Women are a protected class under some laws but I don't see how they would apply here. WMF is AFAIK a relatively ordinary 501(c)(3). (legally speaking) It was not chartered by an act of a legislature nor is it a part of any government department or agency. Or find a part of the bylaws, articles of incorporation or a policy of the foundation that this ban would violate. I don't think this would work. (Although, taking this a step further, if editors were employees rather than volunteers then I guess there would be substantial remedies available) Stick version 2: convince the voting membership of the foundation to make some sort of change. WMF is not a membership organization so that doesn't work. Carrot: get a major funder of the foundation to reverse course or to ask the foundation to do something. or get the legislature or executive of a government sponsor to make funds conditional on X. (like the way US federal policies dictate state drinking ages though highway maintenance funding (or withholding thereof)) I don't think WMF gets any government funds now and could probably do well enough with just banners to survive without major donors. (at least given current trends; already most revenue is from small individual donations) I have a lawyer on standby for every single threat that comes my way now on the internet, and that includes Wikipedia - I'm not rich, but, frankly, I just can't do it alone anymore and the system isn't solving anything. From Twitter to Wikipedia, a day doesnt' go by when myself or a woman I know isn't threatened on the internet. I'm just so sick of it. :( I'm also really pissed off in general about the last 24 hours in america. So whatever. +1 :( -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] x% female, y% male. ???
On Nov 27, 2014 9:55 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: The study's talk page has ongoing discussions of people being annoyed about this issue. Probably first place any updates will show up: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_Editor_Survey_2012 I wrote there: See [http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/the-wikipedia-gender-gap-revisited Mako's study] which includes the initial numbers from before his changes. I thought the study results were already released by the time he did the study but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway at least there are numbers. But IMHO absolute numbers are not as important as change rates over time. (which has been the topic of debate among researchers not too long ago also) -- -Jeremy P.S. haven't read the arbcom case or any of the onwiki discussion but I generally support points I've seen on these threads from Sarah Stierch. P.P.S. Everyone who is having turkey, etc. today should enjoy it. :) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday
On Mar 23, 2015 11:25 AM, Neotarf neot...@gmail.com wrote:
I've never seen editithons that exclude people before. I've been to a
couple of black history events, and all were welcomed, although of course
there was a very high proportion of African descent.
I think the point was actually to be extra inclusionary: to cover all of
the above not just a subset when recruiting new editors. So potential
recruits don't think but I'm not really {{label}} and exclude themselves.
I'm pretty sure others won't be excluded but these events will be *focused*
on topics related to those groups and editors with some sort of a
connection to Africa. To address biases similarly to women focused outreach
but with a twist thrown in: adding a new language to Wikipedia too, they
started already Garifuna Wikipedia on incubator.
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cab
-Jeremy
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Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday
On Mar 23, 2015 11:41 AM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: I recognize at least some of the names on the attendance list there as people who don't, to the best of my knowledge, identify as being of African descent, so it doesn't appear to have been an event that excluded anyone. I think that wording was referring to future events not yesterday's event. See also http://www.afrocrowd.org/ -Jeremy ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
