Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getoverit.

2009-11-24 Thread Dustin Puryear
Well, now that's fascinating. You guys must have been doing some serious 
distributing mysql processing.


From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
Jerald Sheets
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To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getoverit.

We got a billion queries at The Weather Channel the morning Rita rolled 
ashore.  

All served on MySQL over SuSE.

I think that properly load-balanced, even the DB thing isn't an issue any more 
unless a company requires Oracle over a commercial OS.


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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, -ray  wrote:

Same here.  We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS
machine.  Linux is preferred.  The only servers we add are Linux and
Windows.  In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can
now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers).
Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux.

ray


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote:

> We have around 120 servers in our data center.  It's probably half-and-
> half for me.  If it can be run on Linux, it is.  The front end of the
> application runs on Windows and is served via TS.  Almost everything
> else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux.
>
> Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix.
> Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops
> (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services.
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current
>> numbers are for its use there?
>>
>> 
>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]
>> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops.
>> Getover it.
>>
>> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over
>> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX
>> boxes.
>>
>> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken
>> over.
>>
>> --j
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:
>>
>>
>> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of
>> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people
>> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't
>> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it
>> may come close to an equal share.
>>
>> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server
>> market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple
>> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize
>> there's an alternative.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
>>
>> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Jerald Sheets
We got a billion queries at The Weather Channel the morning Rita rolled
ashore.

All served on MySQL over SuSE.

I think that properly load-balanced, even the DB thing isn't an issue any
more unless a company requires Oracle over a commercial OS.


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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, -ray  wrote:

>
> Same here.  We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS
> machine.  Linux is preferred.  The only servers we add are Linux and
> Windows.  In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can
> now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers).
> Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux.
>
> ray
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote:
>
> > We have around 120 servers in our data center.  It's probably half-and-
> > half for me.  If it can be run on Linux, it is.  The front end of the
> > application runs on Windows and is served via TS.  Almost everything
> > else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux.
> >
> > Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix.
> > Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops
> > (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services.
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current
> >> numbers are for its use there?
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]
> >> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
> >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
> >> To: general@brlug.net
> >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops.
> >> Getover it.
> >>
> >> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over
> >> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX
> >> boxes.
> >>
> >> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken
> >> over.
> >>
> >> --j
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of
> >> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people
> >> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't
> >> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it
> >> may come close to an equal share.
> >>
> >> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server
> >> market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple
> >> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize
> >> there's an alternative.
> >>
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
> >>
> >> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
> >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
> >>
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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread -ray

Same here.  We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS 
machine.  Linux is preferred.  The only servers we add are Linux and 
Windows.  In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can 
now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers). 
Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux.

ray


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote:

> We have around 120 servers in our data center.  It's probably half-and-
> half for me.  If it can be run on Linux, it is.  The front end of the
> application runs on Windows and is served via TS.  Almost everything
> else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux.
>
> Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix.
> Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops
> (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services.
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current
>> numbers are for its use there?
>>
>> 
>> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]
>> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
>> To: general@brlug.net
>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops.
>> Getover it.
>>
>> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over
>> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX
>> boxes.
>>
>> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken
>> over.
>>
>> --j
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:
>>
>>
>> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of
>> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people
>> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't
>> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it
>> may come close to an equal share.
>>
>> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server
>> market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple
>> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize
>> there's an alternative.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
>>
>> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
>>
>> --
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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Jerald Sheets
In the main DC's I've been in here in ATL (AT&T, Verizon Business, etc.), it
is more the oddity to see "big iron" than Linux.  Oftentimes you'll pass a
cage and see a bix Regatta class or Z system from IBM and to a lesser extent
some sort of AS400.  The most common Big Iron is Sun hardware and pretty
much everything else seems to be Linux and Windows Server.

That's just in my experience, though.

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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Keith Stokes  wrote:

> We have around 120 servers in our data center.  It's probably half-and-
> half for me.  If it can be run on Linux, it is.  The front end of the
> application runs on Windows and is served via TS.  Almost everything
> else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux.
>
> Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix.
> Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops
> (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services.
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> > Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current
> > numbers are for its use there?
> >
> > 
> > From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]
> > On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
> > To: general@brlug.net
> > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops.
> > Getover it.
> >
> > Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over
> > 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken
> > over.
> >
> > --j
> >
> >
> > On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:
> >
> >
> > Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of
> > growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people
> > are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't
> > ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it
> > may come close to an equal share.
> >
> > My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server
> > market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple
> > for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize
> > there's an alternative.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
> >
> > The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
> > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
> >
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[brlug-general] Solaris failover

2009-11-24 Thread Dustin Puryear
For Linux failover, if not using a commercial product like SteelEye, we
use Linux Virtual Server (LVS). Is there a similar solution for Solaris?

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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Keith Stokes
We have around 120 servers in our data center.  It's probably half-and- 
half for me.  If it can be run on Linux, it is.  The front end of the  
application runs on Windows and is served via TS.  Almost everything  
else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux.

Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix.   
Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops  
(not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services.

On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:

> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current  
> numbers are for its use there?
>
> 
> From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net]  
> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
> To: general@brlug.net
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops.  
> Getover it.
>
> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over  
> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX  
> boxes.
>
> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken  
> over.
>
> --j
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:
>
>
> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of  
> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people  
> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't  
> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it  
> may come close to an equal share.
>
> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server  
> market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple  
> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize  
> there's an alternative.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
>
> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
>
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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Dustin Puryear
Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current numbers are 
for its use there?


From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
Jerald Sheets
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over 5000 Linux 
systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX boxes.  

I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken over.

--j


On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote:


Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing 
stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming 
familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't ever see it "taking over" 
any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal share.

My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server 
market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for years 
to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an alternative.

Ryan

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:

The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102

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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Dustin Puryear
We run Microsoft Office here at Puryear IT, and it's actually an official 
standard. In the past, some employees have used OO, but it didn't work out too 
well. Too many issues with odd formatting, etc. Now, this may have improved in 
the last year..

We made the decision based on business needs. We need our documents to be 
easily usable by us and by our clients. That trumps everything else for us. 


From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
Keith Stokes
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:07 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

Why would you want to run MS Office, other than possibly PowerPoint (evil in 
itself) when you can run OO?

I gave up on MS Office years ago on Windows and totally once they ported it to 
native OS X instead of through X. (X on OS X is a pain)
 
On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Ronnie Gilkey wrote:


Crossover provides a really nice set of functionality for running applications 
with Wine. You can even use it to run Microsoft Office

ronnie

Jerald Sheets wrote: 
It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, IIRC...


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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White  wrote:
I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it.
 
From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of 
mat branyon
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over 
it.
 
i dont like adobe products
On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet"  wrote:

That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a 
Free product? 
 
That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of air are 
terrible"
 
Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit 
in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon  wrote: > > 
regardless of wh...

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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it.

2009-11-24 Thread Dustin Puryear
I agree with the article. Maybe it will happen in the future, but Linux
on the desktop has been a non-starter. It's rare, very rare, for me to
see Linux on the desktop, even if a company runs Linux exclusively in
the data center.

 



From: general-boun...@brlug.net [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On
Behalf Of Jerald Sheets
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:25 PM
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Getover it.

 

The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies
wind up choosing Windows because they prefer it.  

That is NOT the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for
almost a decade.  Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows
desktop.  That means they force me to do so.  

Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land,
there is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when
brain-dead $WORK demands it.

Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop.  Get
over it.  

 ---
Jerald M. Sheets jr.



On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White  wrote:

Hah, great article. Thanks for sharing.


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The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102

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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.

2009-11-24 Thread Jarred White
Yeh D2 might work, but I've been there, done that. ;)

 

To Blizzard's credit, they usually release games where the CDs/DVDs have
installers for both Windows and Mac versions, which is pretty cool. We
have a Mac in the house, but it's not really specced for gaming. 

 

And anyone remember that Halo was going to be released on PC/Linux
before MS bought Bungie? :)

 

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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:41 PM
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over it.

 

Then D2 is what I am recalling.

 

Not a gamer anymore.  Sorry.  :)

 

--j

 

 

On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:00 PM, mat branyon wrote:





i'll build another desktop when d3 is actually released.  are you
waiting for duke nukem too... man, that game is going to own

for those that don't know, wikipedia has d3's release date scheduled for
2011.  i'm sure bt then linux will be king, and microsoft just some
minor princess we marry off to keep our funny uncle occupied.

 

On Nov 23, 2009 3:49 PM, "Jarred White" 
wrote:

I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on
it.

 

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  i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim
Fournet"  wrot...

 



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Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.

2009-11-24 Thread Jonathan Roberts
I think you're absolutely right.  I also think that virtualization is
helping move Linux onto more servers (virtual but still).  It is becoming so
easy to have a web server template or  server template in your
choice for virtualization software.  A few commands or clicks and you have a
shiny new server pre-configured requiring only minor customization for the
project/task.  I am amazed at how well Linux (and Windows too, to a lesser
extent) operates as VM's.

Jonathan


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> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing
> stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming
> familiar with Linux server administration).  I don't ever see it "taking
> over" any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal
> share.
>
> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server
> market-share.  The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for
> years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an
> alternative.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray  wrote:
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>> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it.
>> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102
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