Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project
+1 Although the initial committers list are all paied by Yahoo, but I trust that the project will attract a lot of other developers more specifically from Hadoop family of projects. Only one note: Do you really need a separate users@ list, I didn't find in your proposal any pointers to a suitable big users base which requires that list. We had the same issue in Apache Isis and we delayed creating a users@ list till we have this kind of users base. Anyway it is only an opinion. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > +1 > Antoine > > > On 2/10/11 3:37 PM, Alan Gates wrote: >> I would like to propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project. Howl is >> a table and storage management service for data created using Apache >> Hadoop. The proposal is on the Incubator wiki at >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal and is pasted below. >> Thanks. >> >> Alan. >> >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best." - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship "Stay hungry, stay foolish." - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling
+1 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On 2011-02-11, Nick Burch wrote: > >> I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. >> +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation >> 0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry >> -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is > > +1 > > Stefan > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best." - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship "Stay hungry, stay foolish." - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
hat's a completely arbitrary distinction. > > As a Labs PMC member at least I would be open to a proposal to change > that rule, if that's the only thing preventing Labs from being used > for something like this. > In the interests of email economy: A scheme to do this at the Lab would be fine with me. The different from our current incubation scheme is, that as I understand it, one person with a bright idea can't expect to get a proposal to pass as a podling. For good reason; the footprint is too large. I'll take this idea to the labs PMC list. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
Hi, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF > lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, > and that's a completely arbitrary distinction. As a Labs PMC member at least I would be open to a proposal to change that rule, if that's the only thing preventing Labs from being used for something like this. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
Le 11 févr. 2011 à 17:13, Benson Margulies a écrit : > Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How > would I proceed? > > Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF > lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, > and that's a completely arbitrary distinction. > > So, these days, my likely trajectory would be to go create a repo on > github. If, over time, the thing grows some legs, I might then bring > it to the incubator. > > In the mean time, I have to come up with Java package IDs and maven > group IDs, and I have to assert the copyright myself, yada yada, and > if it makes it into the incubator all that gets changed around. > > Seems pretty wasteful. Leaving aside the git versus svn issue, where I > have bright hopes that something good is coming, why can't we have a > sort of light-duty incubation that would cover this case? I'm > imagining a procedure roughly as follows: > > There has to be an iPMC member as part of the starting team. Thus, > this is open to any member, or any committer who can persuade the iPMC > that they have enough experience on other Apache projects to be > trustworthy. > > The seed person would have to talk two other iPMC members into serving > as supervisors. What would be the difference of theses persons with one champion and two mentors in the current incubator sense ? Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
Eric, I don't feel that your reply is fair. I am not 'lowering the bar' to the eventual creation of a TLP that makes official Apache releases. I am proposing, if you will excuse the metaphor, to create a less steep ramp that approaches that bar. Right now, we say 'go away until you have a substantial community.' I'm proposing a means of capturing these nacent communities. --benson On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Eric Johnson wrote: > As an Apache outsider who has some role in guiding our overall company use > of open-source software, the high-barrier to entry is *precisely* what makes > Apache currently so valuable to us, as a client. > > Not sure you want to dilute that. > > -Eric. > > On 2/11/11 8:44 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> Those have zero oversight, and are supposed to be associated with >> existing projects, no? >> >> More seriously, >> >> "There are a number of things Apache Extras projects can not do since >> they are not official Apache Software Foundation projects, including >> 1) include the word Apache in their name, 2) use the org.apache >> namespace for their bundles or package names. " >> >> My goal here is to foster and encourage the growth of brand new things >> *inside* the ASF, but lowering the barrier to entry. >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2/11/11 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? >>> >>> http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ ? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Cordialement, >>> Emmanuel Lécharny >>> www.iktek.com >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
As an Apache outsider who has some role in guiding our overall company use of open-source software, the high-barrier to entry is *precisely* what makes Apache currently so valuable to us, as a client. Not sure you want to dilute that. -Eric. On 2/11/11 8:44 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Those have zero oversight, and are supposed to be associated with existing projects, no? More seriously, "There are a number of things Apache Extras projects can not do since they are not official Apache Software Foundation projects, including 1) include the word Apache in their name, 2) use the org.apache namespace for their bundles or package names. " My goal here is to foster and encourage the growth of brand new things *inside* the ASF, but lowering the barrier to entry. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: On 2/11/11 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ ? -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
Those have zero oversight, and are supposed to be associated with existing projects, no? More seriously, "There are a number of things Apache Extras projects can not do since they are not official Apache Software Foundation projects, including 1) include the word Apache in their name, 2) use the org.apache namespace for their bundles or package names. " My goal here is to foster and encourage the growth of brand new things *inside* the ASF, but lowering the barrier to entry. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: > On 2/11/11 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How >> would I proceed? > > http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ ? > > > -- > Regards, > Cordialement, > Emmanuel Lécharny > www.iktek.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling
On 2011-02-11, Nick Burch wrote: > I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. > +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation > 0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry > -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is +1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation
On 2/11/11 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ ? -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
An idea you might call pre-incubation
Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, and that's a completely arbitrary distinction. So, these days, my likely trajectory would be to go create a repo on github. If, over time, the thing grows some legs, I might then bring it to the incubator. In the mean time, I have to come up with Java package IDs and maven group IDs, and I have to assert the copyright myself, yada yada, and if it makes it into the incubator all that gets changed around. Seems pretty wasteful. Leaving aside the git versus svn issue, where I have bright hopes that something good is coming, why can't we have a sort of light-duty incubation that would cover this case? I'm imagining a procedure roughly as follows: There has to be an iPMC member as part of the starting team. Thus, this is open to any member, or any committer who can persuade the iPMC that they have enough experience on other Apache projects to be trustworthy. The seed person would have to talk two other iPMC members into serving as supervisors. New committers would be invited by that group. Code would be granted 'from birth' to the foundation. There would be very minimal reporting requirements. There would be no formal ASF releases. There would be a time limit of 3 months to achieve, say, a group of at least 5 committers. If the group achieves critical mass including some specified threshold number of existing ASF committers, it would be a candidate for direct graduation as a TLP. Otherwise, it would progress from this 'lab' status to that of a normal incubator podling. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling
+1 from me. (binding) Congrats guys! Cheers, Chris On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Nick Burch wrote: > Hi All > > The Chemistry podling has been in the incubator since early 2009. In the > last 6 months, the podling has had two sucessful Java releases, and now > its first sucessful non-Java release too. The community is healthy and > diverse, has added new committers, and brought in other code bases + their > communities via the IP clearing process. > > Following advice from the mentors, the Chemistry podling has now voted to > graduate: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.1102071443310.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.110230300.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E > > The vote has received 12 PPMC approvals, of which 2 were also IPMC > approvals (Jukka Zitting and myself). > > I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. > +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation > 0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry > -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is > > Voting will be open for 72 hours. Also, please find the proposed board > resolution below. > > Thanks > Nick > > > > Establish the Apache Chemistry project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance of open-source software providing an implemention of the > OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications, > in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Chemistry Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is responsible > for the creation and maintenance of software providing and implementing > the OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications, > in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public. > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Chemistry" be and hereby is > created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Chemistry Project, and > to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within > the scope of responsibility of the Apache Chemistry Project; and be it > further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Chemistry Project: > > * Bogdan Stefanescu (b...@apache.org) > * David Caruana (dcaru...@apache.org) > * David Nuescheler (unc...@apache.org) > * David Ward(dw...@apache.org) > * Dominique Pfister (dpfis...@apache.org) > * Florent Guillaume (fguilla...@apache.org) > * Florian Müller(f...@apache.org) > * Gabriele Columbro (gabri...@apache.org) > * Jeff Potts(jpo...@apache.org) > * Jens Hübel(j...@apache.org) > * Jukka Zitting (ju...@apache.org) > * Martin Hermes (herm...@apache.org) > * Nick Burch(n...@apache.org) > * Paolo Mottadelli (pa...@apache.org) > * Paul Goetz(pgo...@apache.org) > * Richard McKnight (richa...@apache.org) > * Stéfane Fermigier (sfermig...@apache.org) > * Stephan Klevenz (sklev...@apache.org) > * Stéphane Lacoin (slac...@apache.org) > * Sun Seng David Tan(s...@apache.org) > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Florian Müller be > appointed to the office of Vice President, Chemistry, to serve in > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open > development and increased participation in the Chemistry Project; and be > it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is > tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator > Chemistry podling; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator > Chemistry podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > discharged. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org ++
Re: Voting waiting period
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period. > If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to > complete. > > I don't see this documented on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html. > We may also need to explain that all correspondence on behalf of the PPMC > should cc the PPMC private list. > > Thoughts? > > > Regards, > Alan > > Well i've found this an interesting thread, i'd always thought the at least 72 hours was one of the "rules" so it was interesting to hear people saying it was flexible, and after looking i've not found any policy doc saying it MUST be at least 72 hours. Thanks for bring it up. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Voting waiting period
Yes, I agree with that. In the example I used, things like master poms which are infrastructure, or a minor site updates, or fixing 'moved' repositories which wouldn't let things build. Those were our only real exceptions. Most changes we give the 72 hours for because if it's deserving of a release, it's deserving of letting people spend some time reviewing it. In general I think the review process strengthen's the release. It's an important step in 90% of the cases. And I agree too that being clear about deadlines is important. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:36 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500: >> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: >>> Bertrand, >>> >>> I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they >>> generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a "must" >>> requirement, rather it should be a shall and we can let the individual >>> communities work out what exceptions they allow. >> +1 - but so the whole community can follow what is going on, it is >> best to be open about what the "exceptions" can be and also to >> include end dates in posts that kick off VOTEs. >> >> Phil >>> On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: > ...I think it's important to keep things flexible because, as much as we > would like everything to fit the same rules, some communities need to > be a bit more dynamic and we need to trust the project PMC's and > members to do what's best for the project and community. > > 72 hours is a good suggestion, but it shouldn't be mandatory... A PMC that consistently uses voting periods shorter than 72 hours would disempower people who cannot check the project lists every day. So I think 72 hour must be the rule, though exceptions are ok as you mention. > > The rule ought to be that the vote is long enough to let everyone > interested vote before closing of polls. But at Subversion we never had > long discussions about a holy Seventy Two Hours boundary... > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Nick Burch wrote: > ...Following advice from the mentors, the Chemistry podling has now voted to > graduate:... > I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation +1 Special kudos for the chemistry and opencmis teams for joining forces in this project - this did not seem obvious when we first heard of it! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling
Hi All The Chemistry podling has been in the incubator since early 2009. In the last 6 months, the podling has had two sucessful Java releases, and now its first sucessful non-Java release too. The community is healthy and diverse, has added new committers, and brought in other code bases + their communities via the IP clearing process. Following advice from the mentors, the Chemistry podling has now voted to graduate: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.1102071443310.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.110230300.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E The vote has received 12 PPMC approvals, of which 2 were also IPMC approvals (Jukka Zitting and myself). I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation 0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is Voting will be open for 72 hours. Also, please find the proposed board resolution below. Thanks Nick Establish the Apache Chemistry project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software providing an implemention of the OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications, in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Chemistry Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software providing and implementing the OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications, in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public. RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Chemistry" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Chemistry Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Chemistry Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Chemistry Project: * Bogdan Stefanescu (b...@apache.org) * David Caruana (dcaru...@apache.org) * David Nuescheler (unc...@apache.org) * David Ward(dw...@apache.org) * Dominique Pfister (dpfis...@apache.org) * Florent Guillaume (fguilla...@apache.org) * Florian Müller(f...@apache.org) * Gabriele Columbro (gabri...@apache.org) * Jeff Potts(jpo...@apache.org) * Jens Hübel(j...@apache.org) * Jukka Zitting (ju...@apache.org) * Martin Hermes (herm...@apache.org) * Nick Burch(n...@apache.org) * Paolo Mottadelli (pa...@apache.org) * Paul Goetz(pgo...@apache.org) * Richard McKnight (richa...@apache.org) * Stéfane Fermigier (sfermig...@apache.org) * Stephan Klevenz (sklev...@apache.org) * Stéphane Lacoin (slac...@apache.org) * Sun Seng David Tan(s...@apache.org) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Florian Müller be appointed to the office of Vice President, Chemistry, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Chemistry Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Chemistry podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator Chemistry podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Voting waiting period
Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500: > On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: > > Bertrand, > > > > I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they > > generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a "must" > > requirement, rather it should be a shall and we can let the individual > > communities work out what exceptions they allow. > +1 - but so the whole community can follow what is going on, it is > best to be open about what the "exceptions" can be and also to > include end dates in posts that kick off VOTEs. > > Phil > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > > wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: > >>> ...I think it's important to keep things flexible because, as much as we > >>> would like everything to fit the same rules, some communities need to > >>> be a bit more dynamic and we need to trust the project PMC's and > >>> members to do what's best for the project and community. > >>> > >>> 72 hours is a good suggestion, but it shouldn't be mandatory... > >> A PMC that consistently uses voting periods shorter than 72 hours > >> would disempower people who cannot check the project lists every day. > >> > >> So I think 72 hour must be the rule, though exceptions are ok as you > >> mention. > >> The rule ought to be that the vote is long enough to let everyone interested vote before closing of polls. But at Subversion we never had long discussions about a holy Seventy Two Hours boundary... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
