[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27) Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Christian Grobmeier updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27: - Description: The term onami originates in the japanese language and means something like big wave. The inspiration to use Apache Onami as name has been taken from this Zen story: http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 Apache Onami is a project focused on the development and maintenance of a set of Google Guice extensions not provided out of the box by the library itself nor the Google developers team, such as integration with 3rd part frameworks or extra functionalities. was:The term onami originates in the japanese language and means something like big wave. The inspiration to use Apache Onami as name has been taken from this Zen story: http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name --- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Christian Grobmeier The term onami originates in the japanese language and means something like big wave. The inspiration to use Apache Onami as name has been taken from this Zen story: http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 Apache Onami is a project focused on the development and maintenance of a set of Google Guice extensions not provided out of the box by the library itself nor the Google developers team, such as integration with 3rd part frameworks or extra functionalities. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Resolved] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27) Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Christian Grobmeier resolved PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27. -- Resolution: Fixed Apache Onami is suitable Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name --- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Christian Grobmeier The term onami originates in the japanese language and means something like big wave. The inspiration to use Apache Onami as name has been taken from this Zen story: http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 Apache Onami is a project focused on the development and maintenance of a set of Google Guice extensions not provided out of the box by the library itself nor the Google developers team, such as integration with 3rd part frameworks or extra functionalities. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27) Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13604890#comment-13604890 ] Christian Grobmeier commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27: -- Thanks Shane! I have added a note on the functionality, just for the sake of completeness. Establish whether Apache Onami is a suitable name --- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Christian Grobmeier The term onami originates in the japanese language and means something like big wave. The inspiration to use Apache Onami as name has been taken from this Zen story: http://www.101zenstories.com/index.php?story=8 Apache Onami is a project focused on the development and maintenance of a set of Google Guice extensions not provided out of the box by the library itself nor the Google developers team, such as integration with 3rd part frameworks or extra functionalities. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hello, in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami. This is the community graduation vote for the Apache Onami project, where we as a project demonstrate our willingness to become a self govern top level project of the Apache Software Foundation. Please vote +1 if you feel Apache Onami is ready to become a top level project. [ ] +1, we are ready to become a top level project [ ] -1, please stay in the incubator, because... The vote is open for 72h. Best regards, Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
Hi Christian, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I would like to commit that. Any objections? (spelling corrections welcome, right now or after the commit)... I like it, just a nitpick: I'd say Good examples are instead of they should look like. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami... Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate? I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
[ NOTE, crossposted public/private lists ] Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:43:46 +0100: Hello, I would like to commit that. Any objections? (spelling corrections welcome, right now or after the commit) cheers $ svn diff Index: content/guides/graduation.xml === --- content/guides/graduation.xml (revision 1457669) +++ content/guides/graduation.xml (working copy) @@ -285,6 +285,33 @@ and some common-sense hints for a href=http://apache.org/dev/project-names.html;Choosing names for ASF projects/a. /p +p +Before a podling can graduate, a podling suitable names search must be done. For this, please open +a JIRA request in the a href=https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH;Podling Suitable Names Searc JIRA space/a. They should look like: Search + +ul +lia href=https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-26;Apache Open Climate Workbench/a/li +lia href=https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-27;Apache Onami/a/li +/ul +/p +p +Please consider to research at least the following sources: +ul +liGitHub/li +liSourceForge.net/li +liGoogle Code/li +liOhloh/li +lia href=http://tsdr.uspto.gov;USPTO/a/li +liGoogle, Bing, Yahoo/li +lia href=http://www.trademarkia.com;Trademarkia/a/li Errr. Isn't this list of resources already available on another page? If so please just point to it, rather than duplicate it. (There should be exactly one canonical location for such info.) And BTW infra experience tells me info about execuding the PNS process (PODLINGNAMESEARCH) should live on www.a.o/foundation/marks/, but that might be an issue for another patch. +/ul +/p +p +Note all results in the according JIRA issues. When done, inform trademarks @ apache.org that you have finished your research. Please wait, until the trademarks team has interpreted your findings and theV.P. Branding approves your request. Trademark It's important that the jira records only facts and not interpretations of them. That's one of the reasons you should avoid re-describing the process, and should instead just link to wherever it's already documented at. Also, missing space. Next time consider running a spellchecker. acceptance is not decided by lazy consens. consensus +/p +p +Onces the name is approved, you can resolve the Once JIRA issue and update your status page. +/p /section section id='releases' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.orgwrote: We're also missing Ant Elder from the Nominated Mentors list no? Fixed... I have pasted the current version of the proposal below, so that this list has it correctly archived. +1 to incubation based on that version with four mentors. -Bertrand ** PROPOSAL ** Abstract MRQL is a query processing and optimization system for large-scale, distributed data analysis, built on top of Apache Hadoop and Hama. Proposal MRQL (pronounced miracle) is a query processing and optimization system for large-scale, distributed data analysis. MRQL (the MapReduce Query Language) is an SQL-like query language for large-scale data analysis on a cluster of computers. The MRQL query processing system can evaluate MRQL queries in two modes: in MapReduce mode on top of Apache Hadoop or in Bulk Synchronous Parallel (BSP) mode on top of Apache Hama. The MRQL query language is powerful enough to express most common data analysis tasks over many forms of raw in-situ data, such as XML and JSON documents, binary files, and CSV documents. MRQL is more powerful than other current high-level MapReduce languages, such as Hive and PigLatin, since it can operate on more complex data and supports more powerful query constructs, thus eliminating the need for using explicit MapReduce code. With MRQL, users will be able to express complex data analysis tasks, such as PageRank, k-means clustering, matrix factorization, etc, using SQL-like queries exclusively, while the MRQL query processing system will be able to compile these queries to efficient Java code. Background The initial code was developed at the University of Texas of Arlington (UTA) by a research team, led by Leonidas Fegaras. The software was first released in May 2011. The original goal of this project was to build a query processing system that translates SQL-like data analysis queries to efficient workflows of MapReduce jobs. A design goal was to use HDFS as the physical storage layer, without any indexing, data partitioning, or data normalization, and to use Hadoop (without extensions) as the run-time engine. The motivation behind this work was to build a platform to test new ideas on query processing and optimization techniques applicable to the MapReduce framework. A year ago, MRQL was extended to run on Hama. The motivation for this extension was that Hadoop MapReduce jobs were required to read their input and write their output on HDFS. This simplifies reliability and fault tolerance but it imposes a high overhead to complex MapReduce workflows and graph algorithms, such as PageRank, which require repetitive jobs. In addition, Hadoop does not preserve data in memory across consecutive MapReduce jobs. This restriction requires to read data at every step, even when the data is constant. BSP, on the other hand, does not suffer from this restriction, and, under certain circumstances, allows complex repetitive algorithms to run entirely in the collective memory of a cluster. Thus, the goal was to be able to run the same MRQL queries in both modes, MapReduce and BSP, without modifying the queries: If there are enough resources available, and low latency and speed are more important than resilience, queries may run in BSP mode; otherwise, the same queries may run in MapReduce mode. BSP evaluation was found to be a good choice when fault tolerance is not critical, data (both input and intermediate) can fit in the cluster memory, and data processing requires complex/repetitive steps. The research results of this ongoing work have already been published in conferences (WebDB'11, EDBT'12, and DataCloud'12) and the authors have already received positive feedback from researchers in academia and industry who were attending these conferences. Rationale MRQL will be the first general-purpose, SQL-like query language for data analysis based on BSP. Currently, many programmers prefer to code their MapReduce applications in a higher-level query language, rather than an algorithmic language. For instance, Pig is used for 60% of Yahoo! MapReduce jobs, while Hive is used for 90% of Facebook MapReduce jobs. This, we believe, will also be the trend for BSP applications, because, even though, in principle, the BSP model is very simple to understand, it is hard to develop, optimize, and maintain non-trivial BSP applications coded in a general-purpose programming language. Currently, there is no widely acceptable declarative BSP query language, although there are a few special-purpose BSP systems for graph analysis, such as Google Pregel and Apache Giraph, for machine learning, such as BSML, and for scientific data analysis. MRQL can capture many complex data analysis algorithms in declarative form. Existing MapReduce query languages, such as HiveQL and PigLatin, provide a limited syntax for operating on data collections, in the
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On 18.03.2013 11:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami... Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate? This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to general@. -- Brane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hi Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC should be *notified* through general@ On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 18.03.2013 11:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami... Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate? This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to general@. -- Brane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On 18.03.2013 11:35, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC should be *notified* through general@ This VOTE is not a requirement but is recommended. It is unlikely that IPMC members will vote to approve graduation unless the Mentors and community positively express their readiness for graduation. It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed. I see no requirement to notify. And I still maintain it's confusing, as evidenced by this very case. It would make more sense if general@ were notified after the fact of the vote result, e.g., as an addendum to the graduation vote proposal. There's absolutely no call for the IPMC to poke our fingers into what are obviously optional, internal podling procedures. That's almost as bad as doing code reviews for them. -- Brane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hi AS you can read I used the word *should* and in the rules say ...It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed. So Christian did the *wise* thing :D If you don't like that, and I see your point BTW, you can propose to change that part *not* to copy the general@ when such vote(s) are proposed On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 18.03.2013 11:35, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Last time I checked the rules it state that, for such votes, the IPMC should be *notified* through general@ This VOTE is not a requirement but is recommended. It is unlikely that IPMC members will vote to approve graduation unless the Mentors and community positively express their readiness for graduation. It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed. I see no requirement to notify. And I still maintain it's confusing, as evidenced by this very case. It would make more sense if general@ were notified after the fact of the vote result, e.g., as an addendum to the graduation vote proposal. There's absolutely no call for the IPMC to poke our fingers into what are obviously optional, internal podling procedures. That's almost as bad as doing code reviews for them. -- Brane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: ...This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to general@ ah sorry I missed that - CCing is not a good thing in this case, if someone wants to notify another list of an ongoing vote they should rather forward the original vote as an FYI, or just send a textual notification to avoid confusion. So, my bad, but not only ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.orgwrote: We're also missing Ant Elder from the Nominated Mentors list no? Fixed... I have pasted the current version of the proposal below, so that this list has it correctly archived. Actually, I believe the following is is the current version following the vote and discussion. If there are any further personnel changes can we please have the discussion on private@ to make sure there is consensus before posting here. = Abstract = MRQL is a query processing and optimization system for large-scale, distributed data analysis, built on top of Apache Hadoop and Hama. = Proposal = MRQL (pronounced ''miracle'') is a query processing and optimization system for large-scale, distributed data analysis. MRQL (the !MapReduce Query Language) is an SQL-like query language for large-scale data analysis on a cluster of computers. The MRQL query processing system can evaluate MRQL queries in two modes: in !MapReduce mode on top of [[http://hama.apache.org/|Apache Hadoop]] or in Bulk Synchronous Parallel (BSP) mode on top of [[http://hama.apache.org/|Apache Hama]]. The MRQL query language is powerful enough to express most common data analysis tasks over many forms of raw ''in-situ'' data, such as XML and JSON documents, binary files, and CSV documents. MRQL is more powerful than other current high-level !MapReduce languages, such as Hive and !PigLatin, since it can operate on more complex data and supports more powerful query constructs, thus eliminating the need for using explicit !MapReduce code. With MRQL, users will be able to express complex data analysis tasks, such as !PageRank, k-means clustering, matrix factorization, etc, using SQL-like queries exclusively, while the MRQL query processing system will be able to compile these queries to efficient Java code. = Background = The initial code was developed at the University of Texas of Arlington (UTA) by a research team, led by Leonidas Fegaras. The software was first released in May 2011. The original goal of this project was to build a query processing system that translates SQL-like data analysis queries to efficient workflows of !MapReduce jobs. A design goal was to use HDFS as the physical storage layer, without any indexing, data partitioning, or data normalization, and to use Hadoop (without extensions) as the run-time engine. The motivation behind this work was to build a platform to test new ideas on query processing and optimization techniques applicable to the !MapReduce framework. A year ago, MRQL was extended to run on Hama. The motivation for this extension was that Hadoop !MapReduce jobs were required to read their input and write their output on HDFS. This simplifies reliability and fault tolerance but it imposes a high overhead to complex !MapReduce workflows and graph algorithms, such as !PageRank, which require repetitive jobs. In addition, Hadoop does not preserve data in memory across consecutive !MapReduce jobs. This restriction requires to read data at every step, even when the data is constant. BSP, on the other hand, does not suffer from this restriction, and, under certain circumstances, allows complex repetitive algorithms to run entirely in the collective memory of a cluster. Thus, the goal was to be able to run the same MRQL queries in both modes, !MapReduce and BSP, without modifying the queries: If there are enough resources available, and low latency and speed are more important than resilience, queries may run in BSP mode; otherwise, the same queries may run in !MapReduce mode. BSP evaluation was found to be a good choice when fault tolerance is not critical, data (both input and intermediate) can fit in the cluster memory, and data processing requires complex/repetitive steps. The research results of this ongoing work have already been published in conferences (WebDB'11, EDBT'12, and !DataCloud'12) and the authors have already received positive feedback from researchers in academia and industry who were attending these conferences. = Rationale = * MRQL will be the first general-purpose, SQL-like query language for data analysis based on BSP. . Currently, many programmers prefer to code their !MapReduce applications in a higher-level query language, rather than an algorithmic language. For instance, Pig is used for 60% of Yahoo! !MapReduce jobs, while Hive is used for 90% of Facebook !MapReduce jobs. This, we believe, will also be the trend for BSP applications, because, even though, in principle, the BSP model is very simple to understand, it is hard to develop, optimize, and maintain non-trivial BSP applications coded in a general-purpose programming language. Currently, there is no widely acceptable declarative BSP query language, although there are a few special-purpose BSP
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
Thanks Bertrand, if fixed that (locally) On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi Christian, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I would like to commit that. Any objections? (spelling corrections welcome, right now or after the commit)... I like it, just a nitpick: I'd say Good examples are instead of they should look like. -Bertrand -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: +liGitHub/li +liSourceForge.net/li +liGoogle Code/li +liOhloh/li +lia href=http://tsdr.uspto.gov;USPTO/a/li +liGoogle, Bing, Yahoo/li +lia href=http://www.trademarkia.com;Trademarkia/a/li Errr. Isn't this list of resources already available on another page? If so please just point to it, rather than duplicate it. (There should be exactly one canonical location for such info.) I didn't find one, thats why I took the time and worked on this docs. I extracted the information from the old Jira issues. And BTW infra experience tells me info about execuding the PNS process (PODLINGNAMESEARCH) should live on www.a.o/foundation/marks/, but that might be an issue for another patch. Its PODLING name search. Because of this name I was looking in the incubator docs first. As long as it is not named NAMESEARCH only I think it belongs to the incubator. +Note all results in the according JIRA issues. When done, inform trademarks @ apache.org that you have finished your research. Please wait, until the trademarks team has interpreted your findings and theV.P. Branding approves your request. Trademark It's important that the jira records only facts and not interpretations of them. That's one of the reasons you should avoid re-describing the process, and should instead just link to wherever it's already documented at. Which is where? I did this work because I cannot find the docs, not just because i have fun doing it. You could also provide a better wording if you are not happy with what I did. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami... Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate? I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread. Its the community vote. I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: ...This is the community vote. It's a bit confusing that it's also cc:'d to general@ ah sorry I missed that - CCing is not a good thing in this case, if someone wants to notify another list of an ongoing vote they should rather forward the original vote as an FYI, or just send a textual notification to avoid confusion. So, my bad, but not only ;-) Oh yes, makes sense. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
I had always assumed that vote proposed meant we're thinking about graduating - what does the community think? and not we've decided to graduate, let's vote to make sure. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...in the previous discussions were no objections against the graduation of Apache Onami... Was there a community vote indicating a desire to graduate? I didn't find that in the previous discussion thread. Its the community vote. I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Which i understood so that general@ should be cc'ed. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed Ok - I have now changed that to it is wise to notify the incubator general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed Ok - I have now changed that to it is wise to notify the incubator general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion. Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time and grab a cup of coffee instead. Cheers -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 14:00:52 +0100: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: +liGitHub/li +liSourceForge.net/li +liGoogle Code/li +liOhloh/li +lia href=http://tsdr.uspto.gov;USPTO/a/li +liGoogle, Bing, Yahoo/li +lia href=http://www.trademarkia.com;Trademarkia/a/li Errr. Isn't this list of resources already available on another page? If so please just point to it, rather than duplicate it. (There should be exactly one canonical location for such info.) I didn't find one, /me surprised thats why I took the time and worked on this docs. I extracted the information from the old Jira issues. Thanks. And BTW infra experience tells me info about execuding the PNS process (PODLINGNAMESEARCH) should live on www.a.o/foundation/marks/, but that might be an issue for another patch. Its PODLING name search. Because of this name I was looking in the incubator docs first. As long as it is not named NAMESEARCH only I think it belongs to the incubator. If you have a semantic argument (eg: why shouldn't Apache Steve have been expected to run a name search at some point) I'll be glad to hear it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[PROPOSAL] Automate Shepherd Assignments
For the March report, Benson tried to get the Shepherds to self organize; but it was an unqualified failure. No Shepherd (including myself) stepped forward to take on podlings for review. The only reason I ended up reviewing any podlings is that I was preparing the report for March. Given that Shepherds in the past have always done well when assigned assuming that they are still a valuable construct, I think we should figure out a way to automate the assignment of Shepherds. I have done nothing with any of the incubator scripts (clutch, report generator, etc), but here is what I think we need: - a place for potential shepherds to register which months and the number of podlings they want to review. We could open this to any IPMC member (or potentially people who are members of current PPMCs that have an interest in expanding their horizons) - update the script that generates the wiki page to create the shepherd table based on the registrations. This script would also be responsible for notifying the IPMC when there are not enough shepherds for the current period. I will have to dig in to figure out how to accomplish this with the current infrastructure (any pointers welcome); but, I wanted to get buy-in on the concept first. Thoughts? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Automate Shepherd Assignments
Matt Franklin wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:00:37 -0400: I will have to dig in to figure out how to accomplish this with the current infrastructure (any pointers welcome); but, I wanted to get buy-in on the concept first. https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/board/scripts/assign.py If you want to reuse that it'll probably be easiest if you move the report to a .txt file in svn. Basically mimic the existing board report procedure for TLPs (except you might want to do that in a publicly-readable svn tree). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ambari (incubating) 1.2.1 Release Candidate RC1.
Thanks for voting guys with 9 +1 votes and 3 binding from IPMC, the vote passes. Some of the votes went just to ambari-dev. Here are the 9 +1's. Siddharth Wagle Sumit Mohanty Ramya Sunil (PPMC) Jitendra Pandey (PPMC) Srimanth Gunturi Devaraj Das (IPMC, PPMC) Mahadev Konar (IPMC, PPMC) Arun Murthy (IPMC, PPMC) Ill do the needful. thanks mahadev On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Arun C Murthy a...@hortonworks.com wrote: +1 (binding) Arun On Mar 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Mahadev Konar wrote: Thanks to feedback from general@incubator we have updated the release artifacts with the following fixes: 1. Fixed NOTICE.txt 2. Fixed KEYS file. 3. Removed pyc files in my svn tree (unfortunately ran mvn test before building last time). 4. mvn apache-rat:check passes. The exclude files are files that cannot have Apache Headers since it breaks the run time. 5. Website has been updated (http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/ to fix all the issues mentioned earlier - thanks to Yusaku). 6. Release artifacts now use md5 and sha1. The staging Staging site is: http://people.apache.org/~mahadev/ambari-1.2.1-incubating-rc1/ with user docs at: http://incubator.apache.org/ambari/1.2.1/installing-hadoop-using-ambari/content/index.html and dev docs at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AMBARI/Ambari+Development SVN source tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ambari/tags/release-1.2.1-rc1 PGP release keys (signed using 8EE2F25C) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x0DFF492D8EE2F25C One can look into the issues fixed in this release at https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20AMBARI%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%221.2.1%22%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Resolved%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC Vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) thanks mahadev - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Arun C. Murthy Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: And BTW infra experience tells me info about execuding the PNS process (PODLINGNAMESEARCH) should live on www.a.o/foundation/marks/, but that might be an issue for another patch. Its PODLING name search. Because of this name I was looking in the incubator docs first. As long as it is not named NAMESEARCH only I think it belongs to the incubator. If you have a semantic argument (eg: why shouldn't Apache Steve have been expected to run a name search at some point) I'll be glad to hear it. afaik Apache Steve didn't go through the incubator, right? Probably thats why they didn't do a name search: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20PODLINGNAMESEARCH I do not know if there is a policy for non-incubating projects/products to do a podlingnamesearch. If there is one, it makes certainly sense to rename the PODLINGNAMESEARCH into NAMESEARCH, move my docs out to a better place (trademarks) and communicate the policy to the projects (I didn't know much about podlingnamesearch until last week - I know a few people who all thought it would be a lazy consensus thing). That said, this is something which needs to be discussed on trademarks. And it will take some time for which i do not have the cycles right now. My goal is to document what i have learned now in the hope it is of help to other podlings which need this information. Are you fine with my commit or do you first want to start discussing at trademarks? Cheers Christian -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community- vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed Ok - I have now changed that to it is wise to notify the incubator general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion. Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time and grab a cup of coffee instead. I started to do the same. But I decided to read to the end of this thread to be sure what the issue was. As a note, there was recently a very similar discussion about whether to copy or forward podling votes for new committers. Regards, Craig P.S. I found nothing misleading about the original vote which states pretty clearly This is the community graduation vote for the Apache Onami project. The only thing confusing is that you actually have to *read* the message to know that it's a community vote. [meow] ;-) Cheers -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Proposal for better docs on trademark research (Incubator)
In short: I think your text is good but belong on www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ rather than on the incubator docs. I'll reply on private lists with more detail Christian Grobmeier wrote on Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 16:40:49 +0100: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: And BTW infra experience tells me info about execuding the PNS process (PODLINGNAMESEARCH) should live on www.a.o/foundation/marks/, but that might be an issue for another patch. Its PODLING name search. Because of this name I was looking in the incubator docs first. As long as it is not named NAMESEARCH only I think it belongs to the incubator. If you have a semantic argument (eg: why shouldn't Apache Steve have been expected to run a name search at some point) I'll be glad to hear it. afaik Apache Steve didn't go through the incubator, right? Probably thats why they didn't do a name search: https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20PODLINGNAMESEARCH I do not know if there is a policy for non-incubating projects/products to do a podlingnamesearch. If there is one, it makes certainly sense to rename the PODLINGNAMESEARCH into NAMESEARCH, move my docs out to a better place (trademarks) and communicate the policy to the projects (I didn't know much about podlingnamesearch until last week - I know a few people who all thought it would be a lazy consensus thing). That said, this is something which needs to be discussed on trademarks. And it will take some time for which i do not have the cycles right now. My goal is to document what i have learned now in the hope it is of help to other podlings which need this information. Are you fine with my commit or do you first want to start discussing at trademarks? Cheers Christian -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hi I totally agree that it can be a source of confusion, but I used to either FWD or send a different copy to general@ for notification and I thought others do the same On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote: On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/**guides/graduation.html#tlp-** community-votehttp://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed Ok - I have now changed that to it is wise to notify the incubator general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion. Great, thanks! I was just starting to do the same, now I safe the time and grab a cup of coffee instead. I started to do the same. But I decided to read to the end of this thread to be sure what the issue was. As a note, there was recently a very similar discussion about whether to copy or forward podling votes for new committers. Regards, Craig P.S. I found nothing misleading about the original vote which states pretty clearly This is the community graduation vote for the Apache Onami project. The only thing confusing is that you actually have to *read* the message to know that it's a community vote. [meow] ;-) Cheers -Bertrand --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.**com craig.russ...@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: [VOTE] Apache Onami to become an ASF TLD
Hi On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: ...I followed this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote It is wise to copy the incubator general list when the vote is proposed Ok - I have now changed that to it is wise to notify the incubator general list that the community vote is starting - but do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion. I was encouraged by your change and changed a bit: It is wise to notify the incubator general listhttp://incubator.apache.org/guides/lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org that the community vote is starting. Please do not Cc the vote to the general list as that creates confusion, instead you can either: - FWD the [VOTE] e-mail to the general list, or - Send a different copy to the general list indicating that a graduation community [VOTE] is in progress This way we also can have a kind of unified behavior (or at least hints) about what to do when notifying the IPMC about such votes -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata
Please maintain your incubation metadata. This then enables other volunteers to have information at their fingertips to assist them to assist others. There are also some automated processes that utilise this metadata, as also happens when you become a Top-Level Project (TLP). Please see previous email below. -David David Crossley wrote: Would all podlings please update and maintain your project metadata. It is up to your project members. This metadata is used by various processes to assist with managing the many projects in the Incubator. Please do not expect other people to do it for you. This will not scale, either now or when you are TLPs. Recently Clutch is detecting that there are many such issues [1]. The notes in that table try to assist by linking to some relevant documentation. Incoming projects need to add their details to content/podlings.xml Incubating projects need to keep that content up-to-date. Outgoing projects need to adjust that content as they go through the graduation phases. This then assists all volunteers to assist all volunteers. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org