Re: [QUESTION] Oracle JDBC Driver as a test dependency

2024-01-10 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi!

I'd say the situation has changed a bit, as those jars are available at
central since version 19.3, IIRC ([#1]).

They are published under Oracle Free Use Term and Conditions (FUCT) license
([#2]), so I'd check again with legal to see if this license is allowed or
not.


HTH,
juan pablo


[#1] https://search.maven.org/search?q=g:com.oracle.database.jdbc
[#2] https://www.oracle.com/downloads/licenses/oracle-free-license.html

El mié, 10 ene 2024, 16:23, Alex Porcelli  escribió:

> In KIE podling we have reference for the Oracle JDBC driver being used
> only for tests [1], however based on this ticket [2], it's not clear
> if we can continue to use it or this dependency has to be removed.
>
> Guidance on this topic would be highly appreciated!
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-runtimes/blob/3aa26113d7e88f0fd7d0331ec20fe392f343afb6/kogito-test-utils/pom.xml#L89-L99
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-526
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Re: eliminating MD5 and SHA1 signatures

2020-01-23 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

somewhat related to the question, and just in case anyone is interested,
maven can be configured to generate the
.asc and .sha512 files for all the build artifacts. At JSPWiki, we
overwrite the checksum maven plugin configuration
from the ASF parent pom to do this [#1]. When copying the release artifacts
to dist.a.o we also copy these files
over too, f.ex any subdirectory under [#2]. This makes [#3] a piece of cake
:-)


best regards,
juan pablo

[#1]: https://github.com/apache/jspwiki/blob/master/pom.xml#L610-L626
[#2]: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/jspwiki
[#3]: https://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution#sigs-and-sums

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:19 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 9:51 PM leerho  wrote:
> > ...either the Maven deploy plugin or the repository always adds
> > MD5 and SHA1 signatures as well...
>
> FWIW, we'd like to stop using MD5 but I don't think we're there yet,
> the following URLs have more info:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-distribution
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14923
> https://issues.sonatype.org/browse/NEXUS-21802
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

2019-03-21 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))

best regards,
juan pablo


El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme  escribió:

> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>
> Would that work?
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> >
> > Apache Avac ???
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >
> >> There exists an outis open source project.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> >>>
> >>> Kenn
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> >>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
> aengin...@hortonworks.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> >> One
>  (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> >> trademarks
>  or claims.
>  --Anu
> 
>  Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
> no
>  one else has thought off.
> 
> 
>  On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>    Deep sigh.
> 
>    OK.
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> >
> > I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>  around
> > ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  >
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>
> >> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>
> >> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>  that is
> >> rather unambiguous across languages.
> 
>  Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Apache PawPaw
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>  with the
> >> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>
> >> Jackfruit
> >> Jambolan
> >> Jocote
> >> Kumquat
> >> KangKong
> >> Kabosu
> >>
> >> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>  cava of
> >> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>  seemed
> >> like a
> >> name you could use after Cava.
> >>
> >> Just brainstorming.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>  the
> >> cusp of
> >>> graduation. :)
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>  anto...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> 
>  All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> > I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>  the
> >>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>  Wars
> >>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >> likely to
> >>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>  different
> >> name.
> 
>  We need to pick another name.
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>  dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>  anto...@toulme.name>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>  dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>  is
> >> either
> >>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>
> >>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>> 

[RESULT] [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator

2013-07-09 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

it's been 72 hours and the vote tally is:

* Alan D. Cabrera
* Ant Elder
* Bertrand Delacretaz
* Christian Grobmeier
* Dave Fisher
* Olivier Lamy

all of them binding, so the vote passes :-)

I'll make the submission of the resolutionto the Board tomorrow


thanks all + br,
juan pablo


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote:

 On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
  ...I'd like to ask the IPMC to VOTE on recommending the attached
  graduation proposal to the board

 Enthusiastic +1, congrats to the JSPWiki team for hanging in there!

 -Bertrand

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator

2013-07-09 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
shame on me, that adds:

* Craig L Russell
* Sam Ruby
* Siegfried Goeschl

to the tally, being 9 +1 binding votes.

(as http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html treats community and
IPMC votes as different things I treated both threads independently)

thanks for pointing that out


br,
juan pablo

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:

 .. plus the binding votes from your mentors on the project mailing list...
 ;-)

 Craig

 On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:

  Hi,
 
  it's been 72 hours and the vote tally is:
 
  * Alan D. Cabrera
  * Ant Elder
  * Bertrand Delacretaz
  * Christian Grobmeier
  * Dave Fisher
  * Olivier Lamy
 
  all of them binding, so the vote passes :-)
 
  I'll make the submission of the resolutionto the Board tomorrow
 
 
  thanks all + br,
  juan pablo
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
  bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote:
 
  On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
  ...I'd like to ask the IPMC to VOTE on recommending the attached
  graduation proposal to the board
 
  Enthusiastic +1, congrats to the JSPWiki team for hanging in there!
 
  -Bertrand
 
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Re: [VOTE] recommend Apache JSPWiki for graduating out of the incubator

2013-07-06 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
oh, thought it was enough to link the thread vote, thanks for looking into
it

br,
juan pablo

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 6, 2013, at 05:50 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
  Hi Juan Pablo,
 
  I think you meant to link here:

 Argh, hit send too soon:

 http://s.apache.org/uM

 That's the VOTE RESULT.

 Best,

 jzb
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community graduation vote at jspwiki-dev

2013-07-03 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

a quick email to inform that we've just started the community graduation
vote at jspwiki-dev :-)


br,
juan pablo


Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating released

2013-05-22 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

as Ant notes below, we're discussing graduation at jspwiki-private. Anyone
willing to express his opinion about it is invited to do so on that list.


br,
juan pablo

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:18 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote:
  I'll be the first to admit that I haven't been following along with the
  progress of this project at all, but I happened to notice that, according
  to the incubator projects page, this project has been in incubation for
  almost 6 years. That's an awfully long time in the incubator. What are
 the
  prospects of JSPWiki ever making it out of incubation?
 

 The prospects are good, its happening right now.

...ant

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[ANNOUNCE] Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating released

2013-05-15 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
The Apache JSPWiki team is pleased to announce the release of JSPWiki
2.9.1-incubating from the Apache Incubator.

This is the second release of Apache JSPWiki, a feature-rich and
extensible WikiWiki engine built around the standard J2EE components.

The release is available here:
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/jspwiki/

The full change log is available here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/jspwiki/fixforversion/12321249

We welcome your help and feedback. For more information on how to
report problems, and to get involved, visit the project website at
http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/


The Apache JSPWiki Team


[VOTE][RESULT] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)

2013-05-14 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

I'd now like to summarize the vote, which happened entirely on the
jspwiki-dev@i.a.o mailinglist:

+1 binding from Ant Elder (IPMC)
+1 binding from Siegried Goeschl (mentor)
+1 binding from Craig L Russell (mentor)
+1 non-binding Harry Metske (PPMC)
+1 non-binding Glen Mazza (PPMC)
+1 non-binding Dirk Frederickx (PPMC)
+1 non-binding Andrew Jaquith (PPMC)
+1 non-binding Juan Pablo Santos (PPMC)

Since the votes are all positive, we will now proceed with releasing
2.9.1-rc2 as 2.9.1-incubating


thanks for all the votes + br,
juan pablo


Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)

2013-05-13 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

the current tally, right now, is:

+1 binding from Ant Elder (IPMC)
+1 binding from Siegfried Goeschl (Mentor)
+5 non binding from PPMC

(all votes casted on jspwiki-dev@i.a.o) We still need one more +1 binding
vote to be able to release, so we'd be most grateful if someone could take
a look at it.

thx in advance!


br,
juan pablo

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ant,

 thanks for the vote :-)

 Regarding the NOTICE file, specifically which comments? Right now has 4
 entries, being the reasons behind each one:
 - fckconfig.js entry: published under MPL 2.0, so it requires to be in
 NOTICE

 - Portions of this code donated by BaseN Corporation. entry: legal's
 advice [#1] was to keep this entry in NOTICE

 - SilkIconSet entry: published under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5
 License, which in section 4.b states If you distribute, publicly display,
 publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work or any Derivative
 Works or Collective Works, You must keep intact all copyright notices [...]

 - Slimbox: published under MIT license so shouldn't be there, as pointed
 in [#2]. However, as it's been modified, I thought of it as a derivative
 work and, it fell under section 4.d of the AL You may add Your own
 attribution notices within Derivative Works that You distribute, alongside
 or as an addendum to the NOTICE text from the Work, provided that such
 additional attribution notices cannot be construed as modifying the
 License.

 Please note that I'm not saying they *should* be there, only why they are
 there. If there's anything wrong on that file we'll correct it ASAP (btw, a
 handy way to check if other projects are including specifics entries in
 NOTICE files for 3rd party libraries is to search for an specific
 dependency at [#4] and then checking the svn's NOTICE file of the projects
 using it)

 Regarding the missing DISCLAIMER, our distribution target didn't catch it.
 It's already fixed on trunk, although our plan is release 2.9.1 in order to
 start graduation discuss soon thereafter.

 @general: aside from Ant's vote, we've got another couple of votes at
 jspwiki-dev, so the tally right now is 5PPMC +1 votes, 1 +1 IPMC vote


 br,
 juan pablo

 [#1]: http://s.apache.org/7Hs
 [#2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
 [#3]: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#redistribution
 [#4]: https://analysis.apache.org/dependencies/index


 On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:15 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi JSPWiki, I'm from the Incubator PMC and looking at your release.

 I give it a +1.

 There are a couple of nits. One is that it looks like the Incubation
 DISCLAIMER text is missing from the binary zip. It is there in the
 source artifact and tag though and we've let releases go with these
 missing before so i don't think this is a blocker, fix it next time,
 or better, graduate from the Incubator now so its not needed next
 time. The NOTICE file still has some comments that probably aren't
 needed there and they could be moved somewhere else like the README.
 Again many Incubator releases have similar issues so i don't think
 that should be a blocker and i can help you get that updated for the
 next release.

...ant

 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev for a 2nd RC of Apache JSPWiki
  2.9.1-incubating [#1].
 
  The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on
 the
  developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have 3
 non-binding
  votes (from jspwiki developers).
 
  I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
  candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira
 Issue
  Tracker [#2].
 
  Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on
 the
  vote.
 
  thanks in advance,
  juan pablo
 
 
  [#1] http://s.apache.org/UDD
  [#2]
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249
  ===
 
  Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
  artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.
 
  The tag to be voted upon:
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc2
 
  Source and binary files, with RAT report:
  http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-4-rc2/
 
  Checksums:
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-bin.zip
  MD5:58b7e2fd9290612762825683e81ca22d
  SHA1:   5eb4cfa7c7b00e2a002573c72f1e83c15f708e2b
  SHA512:
 
 0e1487d09044e0ce900194b42ff3e465ee96ebde1a75c0603715ec42bbf425b950c901bff87bbadf43173d3c91ced170ab0eebe4525706344642e68db069ba18
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-src.zip
  MD5:707b52ce9ca32fe012bcc3b1a79d8f96
  SHA1:   41619359a04d49a2f5b58b8ba1a5d0c186fbbb1c
  SHA512

Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)

2013-05-09 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Ant,

thanks for the vote :-)

Regarding the NOTICE file, specifically which comments? Right now has 4
entries, being the reasons behind each one:
- fckconfig.js entry: published under MPL 2.0, so it requires to be in
NOTICE

- Portions of this code donated by BaseN Corporation. entry: legal's
advice [#1] was to keep this entry in NOTICE

- SilkIconSet entry: published under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5
License, which in section 4.b states If you distribute, publicly display,
publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work or any Derivative
Works or Collective Works, You must keep intact all copyright notices [...]

- Slimbox: published under MIT license so shouldn't be there, as pointed in
[#2]. However, as it's been modified, I thought of it as a derivative work
and, it fell under section 4.d of the AL You may add Your own attribution
notices within Derivative Works that You distribute, alongside or as an
addendum to the NOTICE text from the Work, provided that such additional
attribution notices cannot be construed as modifying the License.

Please note that I'm not saying they *should* be there, only why they are
there. If there's anything wrong on that file we'll correct it ASAP (btw, a
handy way to check if other projects are including specifics entries in
NOTICE files for 3rd party libraries is to search for an specific
dependency at [#4] and then checking the svn's NOTICE file of the projects
using it)

Regarding the missing DISCLAIMER, our distribution target didn't catch it.
It's already fixed on trunk, although our plan is release 2.9.1 in order to
start graduation discuss soon thereafter.

@general: aside from Ant's vote, we've got another couple of votes at
jspwiki-dev, so the tally right now is 5PPMC +1 votes, 1 +1 IPMC vote


br,
juan pablo

[#1]: http://s.apache.org/7Hs
[#2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
[#3]: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#redistribution
[#4]: https://analysis.apache.org/dependencies/index

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:15 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi JSPWiki, I'm from the Incubator PMC and looking at your release.

 I give it a +1.

 There are a couple of nits. One is that it looks like the Incubation
 DISCLAIMER text is missing from the binary zip. It is there in the
 source artifact and tag though and we've let releases go with these
 missing before so i don't think this is a blocker, fix it next time,
 or better, graduate from the Incubator now so its not needed next
 time. The NOTICE file still has some comments that probably aren't
 needed there and they could be moved somewhere else like the README.
 Again many Incubator releases have similar issues so i don't think
 that should be a blocker and i can help you get that updated for the
 next release.

...ant

 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev for a 2nd RC of Apache JSPWiki
  2.9.1-incubating [#1].
 
  The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the
  developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have 3 non-binding
  votes (from jspwiki developers).
 
  I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
  candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira
 Issue
  Tracker [#2].
 
  Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the
  vote.
 
  thanks in advance,
  juan pablo
 
 
  [#1] http://s.apache.org/UDD
  [#2]
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249
  ===
 
  Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
  artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.
 
  The tag to be voted upon:
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc2
 
  Source and binary files, with RAT report:
  http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-4-rc2/
 
  Checksums:
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-bin.zip
  MD5:58b7e2fd9290612762825683e81ca22d
  SHA1:   5eb4cfa7c7b00e2a002573c72f1e83c15f708e2b
  SHA512:
 
 0e1487d09044e0ce900194b42ff3e465ee96ebde1a75c0603715ec42bbf425b950c901bff87bbadf43173d3c91ced170ab0eebe4525706344642e68db069ba18
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-src.zip
  MD5:707b52ce9ca32fe012bcc3b1a79d8f96
  SHA1:   41619359a04d49a2f5b58b8ba1a5d0c186fbbb1c
  SHA512:
 
 2c4f6e0b9e163d2b3ae60a091993598ed6e315a7f7b4c08a9232cbd0c1eccba4259818e0e9ab8a86350a0109924be21cc0627e8a549bbd52b14ca7b40dcccee0
 
  JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
 
  [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating
  [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
  [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...



[VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)

2013-05-07 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev for a 2nd RC of Apache JSPWiki
2.9.1-incubating [#1].

The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the
developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have 3 non-binding
votes (from jspwiki developers).

I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira Issue
Tracker [#2].

Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the
vote.

thanks in advance,
juan pablo


[#1] http://s.apache.org/UDD
[#2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249
===

Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.

The tag to be voted upon:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc2

Source and binary files, with RAT report:
http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-4-rc2/

Checksums:

JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-bin.zip
MD5:58b7e2fd9290612762825683e81ca22d
SHA1:   5eb4cfa7c7b00e2a002573c72f1e83c15f708e2b
SHA512:
0e1487d09044e0ce900194b42ff3e465ee96ebde1a75c0603715ec42bbf425b950c901bff87bbadf43173d3c91ced170ab0eebe4525706344642e68db069ba18

JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-4-src.zip
MD5:707b52ce9ca32fe012bcc3b1a79d8f96
SHA1:   41619359a04d49a2f5b58b8ba1a5d0c186fbbb1c
SHA512:
2c4f6e0b9e163d2b3ae60a091993598ed6e315a7f7b4c08a9232cbd0c1eccba4259818e0e9ab8a86350a0109924be21cc0627e8a549bbd52b14ca7b40dcccee0

JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating
[ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


[VOTE][CANCEL] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating

2013-04-19 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
thanks for reminding Brane


br,
juan pablo

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 Marvin, Sebb, thanks for the insights :-)


 br,
 juan pablo


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey 
 mar...@rectangular.comwrote:

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  - I'm especially worried about the NOTICE file, how short is short
 enough?
  Could you provide a good example from any other project so we can take a
  look at it? To take a grasp of how we should do it. We'd like to have
 it as
  good as the LICENSE file (also, the incorrect year in NOTICE was also
  pointed by Siegfried, but not as a blocker, so it's fixed in trunk).

 The ASF now has documentation which describes a formulaic approach to
 creating
 LICENSE and NOTICE.  If you follow the recipe, you should be OK.

 http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html

 Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating

2013-04-17 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi

Marvin, Sebb, thanks for the insights :-)


br,
juan pablo

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  - I'm especially worried about the NOTICE file, how short is short
 enough?
  Could you provide a good example from any other project so we can take a
  look at it? To take a grasp of how we should do it. We'd like to have it
 as
  good as the LICENSE file (also, the incorrect year in NOTICE was also
  pointed by Siegfried, but not as a blocker, so it's fixed in trunk).

 The ASF now has documentation which describes a formulaic approach to
 creating
 LICENSE and NOTICE.  If you follow the recipe, you should be OK.

 http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html

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Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating

2013-04-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Sebb,

first of all, thanks for your time reviewing the RC and your comments

seems we'll have to cancel the vote. Hopefully, we'll have a new RC in a
few days with all these issues fixed.

Some notes, though:

- I'm especially worried about the NOTICE file, how short is short enough?
Could you provide a good example from any other project so we can take a
look at it? To take a grasp of how we should do it. We'd like to have it as
good as the LICENSE file (also, the incorrect year in NOTICE was also
pointed by Siegfried, but not as a blocker, so it's fixed in trunk).

- The signature files is big mistake on my side. Don't know how or what did
I did when doing the scp of the binaries. It's.. awkward.

- IDE specific files: right now our build tool is Ant so, in order to ease
the initial hop in, we provide Eclipse specific files with the project
configuration. We're working on moving to Maven, which will allow us to
delete those files from svn.


thanks  best regards,
juan pablo

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:54 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15 April 2013 22:56, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev to release 2.9.1-incubating [1].
 
  The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the
  developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have the following
  voting results:
  - 1 binding vote (from Siegfried Goeschl -mentor-)
  - 4 non-binding votes (from jspwiki developers)
 
  I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
  candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira
 Issue
  Tracker [2].
 
 
  [1] http://s.apache.org/iy
  [2]
 
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249
 
  Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the
  vote.
 
  thanks in advance,
  juan pablo
 
 
  ===
  Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
  artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.
 
 
 However binaries should still have the correct NL files, and the
 DISCLAIMER (for Incubator podlings)


  The tag to be voted upon:
 
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc1
 
 
 There's no DISCLAIMER file

 The NOTICE file has lots of extra content which is not relevant; the NOTICE
 file must be a short as possible, but no smaller.
 Like a good poem, it's finished when no more can be taken out.

 Note in particular that the NOTICE file must only contain required notices
 for bits that are actually included in the enclosing archive.

 The year in the NOTICE file looks wrong.

 IMO those must be fixed before a release can be signed off.

 The LICENSE file is very clear; it's great to have the full jar names with
 versions.

 Probably not a good idea to include the Eclipse .classpath and .project
 files in SVN as these files are host-specific. [Not a blocker]
 If you want to provide sample versions as a starting point, this can be
 done by providing copies with a different name and perhaps path.
 For example, Tomcat puts their versions here:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/trunk/res/ide-support/eclipse/

 Likewise, the .externalToolBuilders and .settings trees don't belong in SVN
 as they are IDE and host-specific.


  Source and binary files, with RAT report:
  http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-0-rc1/
 
 
 There are no signatures (.asc files).

 There's not much point in including SHA512 hashes as well as SHA1.
 Hashes are really only useful for checking whether the download  succeeded;
 as such MD5 and SHA1 are sufficient


  Checksums:
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-bin.zip
  MD5:76bf79828fd709fc3dbf2c230dd546ff
  SHA1:   bec05e47b21cdacaa171323d2fe7e28fa2a99574
  SHA512:
 
 
 13b8f33137287a32a04737b7d2dbe3d32651d527983d88f3c89ebe3db1e6428ece93a1d541d9a2224dbd2a12f8a0bf866952d0b65bd0fb90ccd25f668653a954
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-src.zip
  MD5:daa25020abeed3762aa901fa6fd35f34
  SHA1:   44075855d753335688e1ea89c8dbf6054d4d506d
  SHA512:
 
 
 ecf8e90a9088ca27d0e302fe81b80b996bcf89d24ec816f475055250b7cc6b0e0e8b1ed5a6499a90285b7f8c8485c3cacd1b7985df9fef44b22e01f0035e95b8
 
 
 Thanks - it's useful to have at least one hash in the vote email as that
 helps tie the vote to the archives.


  JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
 
 
 Except that there are no signature files...


  [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Marmotta 3.0.0-incubating
  [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
  [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 

 IMO, there are several blockers that need to be fixed before release.



[VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating

2013-04-15 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev to release 2.9.1-incubating [1].

The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the
developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have the following
voting results:
- 1 binding vote (from Siegfried Goeschl -mentor-)
- 4 non-binding votes (from jspwiki developers)

I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira Issue
Tracker [2].


[1] http://s.apache.org/iy
[2]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249

Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the
vote.

thanks in advance,
juan pablo


===
Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.

The tag to be voted upon:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc1

Source and binary files, with RAT report:
http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-0-rc1/

Checksums:

JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-bin.zip
MD5:76bf79828fd709fc3dbf2c230dd546ff
SHA1:   bec05e47b21cdacaa171323d2fe7e28fa2a99574
SHA512:
13b8f33137287a32a04737b7d2dbe3d32651d527983d88f3c89ebe3db1e6428ece93a1d541d9a2224dbd2a12f8a0bf866952d0b65bd0fb90ccd25f668653a954

JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-src.zip
MD5:daa25020abeed3762aa901fa6fd35f34
SHA1:   44075855d753335688e1ea89c8dbf6054d4d506d
SHA512:
ecf8e90a9088ca27d0e302fe81b80b996bcf89d24ec816f475055250b7cc6b0e0e8b1ed5a6499a90285b7f8c8485c3cacd1b7985df9fef44b22e01f0035e95b8

JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Marmotta 3.0.0-incubating
[ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating

2013-04-15 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
/s/Marmota 3.0.0/JSPWiki incubating/g/ O:-) (oops)

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev to release 2.9.1-incubating [1].

 The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the
 developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have the following
 voting results:
 - 1 binding vote (from Siegfried Goeschl -mentor-)
 - 4 non-binding votes (from jspwiki developers)

 I'd therefore like to ask now the general incubator to check our release
 candidate. The release notes (fixed issues) are available at the Jira Issue
 Tracker [2].


 [1] http://s.apache.org/iy
 [2]
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12321249

 Please find attached below the concrete details on the release and on the
 vote.

 thanks in advance,
 juan pablo


 ===

 Note that we are voting upon the source (subversion tag and signed
 artifacts). Binaries are provided for convenience only.

 The tag to be voted upon:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_1_incubating_rc1

 Source and binary files, with RAT report:
 http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/releases/2.9.1-incubating-0-rc1/

 Checksums:

 JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-bin.zip
 MD5:76bf79828fd709fc3dbf2c230dd546ff
 SHA1:   bec05e47b21cdacaa171323d2fe7e28fa2a99574
 SHA512:
 13b8f33137287a32a04737b7d2dbe3d32651d527983d88f3c89ebe3db1e6428ece93a1d541d9a2224dbd2a12f8a0bf866952d0b65bd0fb90ccd25f668653a954

 JSPWiki-2.9.1-incubating-src.zip
 MD5:daa25020abeed3762aa901fa6fd35f34
 SHA1:   44075855d753335688e1ea89c8dbf6054d4d506d
 SHA512:
 ecf8e90a9088ca27d0e302fe81b80b996bcf89d24ec816f475055250b7cc6b0e0e8b1ed5a6499a90285b7f8c8485c3cacd1b7985df9fef44b22e01f0035e95b8

 JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS

 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Marmotta 3.0.0-incubating
 [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


How to handle 3rd party extensions

2013-03-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

I'd like to ask a quick question to know how 3rd party extensions are
handled in other Apache projects. (Historically,) In JSPWiki, all the
custom plugins, filters, templates, etc, made by non committers has been
uploaded to a wiki page at www.jspwiki.org. Each author uploaded his/her
extension to his/her page, taking care of the content of that page, linking
it to relevant pages, etc.

Due to some legal reasons [#1], www.jspwiki.org is/has been in read-only
mode for a while and the need of hosting somewhere new extensions is
beginning to arise. We're considering opneing jira tickets under a
extensions component, to be able to track all these extensions, but most
probably it makes much more sense to give people commit access, per
request, to a specific svn repo folder (something similar to the commit
policy followed by Jenkins).

We were wondering if this approach could be feasible under Apache's svn or
if it makes more sense to host these extensions outside Apache infra (a
google code or github account).

What have other projects done on this situation?


thanks  br,
juan pablo


[#1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-739


Re: How to handle 3rd party extensions

2013-03-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi!

thanks for both inputs :-) Seems that Apache Extras is what I was looking
for


br,
juan pablo

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'd like to ask a quick question to know how 3rd party extensions are
  handled in other Apache projects. (Historically,) In JSPWiki, all the
  custom plugins, filters, templates, etc, made by non committers has been
  uploaded to a wiki page at www.jspwiki.org. Each author uploaded his/her
  extension to his/her page, taking care of the content of that page,
 linking
  it to relevant pages, etc.
 
  Due to some legal reasons [#1], www.jspwiki.org is/has been in read-only
  mode for a while and the need of hosting somewhere new extensions is
  beginning to arise. We're considering opneing jira tickets under a
  extensions component, to be able to track all these extensions, but
 most
  probably it makes much more sense to give people commit access, per
  request, to a specific svn repo folder (something similar to the commit
  policy followed by Jenkins).
 
  We were wondering if this approach could be feasible under Apache's svn
 or
  if it makes more sense to host these extensions outside Apache infra (a
  google code or github account).
 
  What have other projects done on this situation?
 
 
  thanks  br,
  juan pablo
 
 
  [#1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-739

 Assuming the new templates are Apache Licensed, you might have few
 options :
- Contributors can submit/update artifacts via JIRA and a committer
 would update to the proper location
- After submitting a CLA, a contributor is granted write access to
 3rd party artifact area and can submit/update his Apache Licensed
 artifacts
- Based on the type of contribution, evaluate the contributor and
 possible make him a committer, then problem solved...

 For non Apache Licensed artifacts, you might consider Apache Extras,
 but you probably wil only have a link saying something like For other
 non Apache Licensed artifacts, see...  and point to apache extras.


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Re: Markdown issue

2013-03-05 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

@Ioan: that was exactly what I was trying to avoid, it feels a bit
cumbersome to type the whole link instead something like
[text][1](.whatevercssclass) or similar

@Shane: yep, had checked also that link, unfortunately, Special attribute
blocks can be used only with headers fenced code blocks. and I was looking
to arbitrarily style a given link (btw, the preview pane doesn't like
fenced blocks, or is it just me?)

seems I'll stick with inline html, I was puzzled to see that it doesn't
seem to be an easy way to put custom styles via markdown :-?

anyway, thanks for the insights


br,
juan pablo


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:

 See if this helps:

   
 http://michelf.ca/projects/**php-markdown/extra/#spe-attrhttp://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/#spe-attr

 Which is linked from:

   
 http://www.apache.org/dev/**cmsref.html#markdownhttp://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#markdown

 - Shane


 On 3/4/2013 6:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:

 Hi all,

 probably is a dumb issue and I'm missing something obvious, but so far, I
 haven't been able to solve it:

 Is there an easy way to tell a markdown link to use a specific css class?
 I'd like to render links pointing outside the incubator site with an
 external css class. I know I can write the html equivalent, but that
 feels unnatural, so I'd better avoid that option. I've been poking at a
 few
 site's sources, but haven't had any luck yet..


 thx in advance!

 br,
 juan pablo


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Re: Markdown issue

2013-03-05 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi!

@Manos: that's great! didn't thought of that, but it absolutely solves the
problem

@Joseph: that looks interesting too, could you provide a link to that
extension?

thx a lot for the tips  pointers


cheers,
juan pablo

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 In the custom extension we use there is code that lets you select a CSS
 classname by adding {.classname} to the end of the text area.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 5, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) ma...@abiss.gr
 wrote:

 
  IF I understand you correctly you might be able to simply tackle the
 issue using the right CSS selector to apply styles for external links.
 
  If links pointing inside the site use URLs not starting with http you
 might want to do something like the following to match external links:
 
  a[href^=http://;] { color: red; }
 
  hth,
 
  Manos
 
  On 03/05/2013 10:18 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
  Hi,
 
  @Ioan: that was exactly what I was trying to avoid, it feels a bit
  cumbersome to type the whole link instead something like
  [text][1](.whatevercssclass) or similar
 
  @Shane: yep, had checked also that link, unfortunately, Special
 attribute
  blocks can be used only with headers fenced code blocks. and I was
 looking
  to arbitrarily style a given link (btw, the preview pane doesn't like
  fenced blocks, or is it just me?)
 
  seems I'll stick with inline html, I was puzzled to see that it doesn't
  seem to be an easy way to put custom styles via markdown :-?
 
  anyway, thanks for the insights
 
 
  br,
  juan pablo
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:
 
  See if this helps:
 
http://michelf.ca/projects/**php-markdown/extra/#spe-attr
 http://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/#spe-attr
 
  Which is linked from:
 
http://www.apache.org/dev/**cmsref.html#markdown
 http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#markdown
 
  - Shane
 
 
  On 3/4/2013 6:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  probably is a dumb issue and I'm missing something obvious, but so
 far, I
  haven't been able to solve it:
 
  Is there an easy way to tell a markdown link to use a specific css
 class?
  I'd like to render links pointing outside the incubator site with an
  external css class. I know I can write the html equivalent, but that
  feels unnatural, so I'd better avoid that option. I've been poking at
 a
  few
  site's sources, but haven't had any luck yet..
 
 
  thx in advance!
 
  br,
  juan pablo
 
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Markdown issue

2013-03-04 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all,

probably is a dumb issue and I'm missing something obvious, but so far, I
haven't been able to solve it:

Is there an easy way to tell a markdown link to use a specific css class?
I'd like to render links pointing outside the incubator site with an
external css class. I know I can write the html equivalent, but that
feels unnatural, so I'd better avoid that option. I've been poking at a few
site's sources, but haven't had any luck yet..


thx in advance!

br,
juan pablo


Re: [VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating

2012-11-14 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Alexei,

activation-1.1.jar et al are downloaded as part of the build. They're not
included in the source because that's contrary to the Apache principles.
That was noted in our July report (and tracked at [#1]).

Regarding the LICENSE / doc/LICENSE.* files: initially, we kept each
license in a separate file (doc/LICENSE.*), while ./LICENSE contained only
the AL. This raised some concerns, noted on our 3rd RC vote [#2], which led
to ./LICENSE file also having verbatim copies of all used licenses. As for
the Mozilla license, it's in the ./LICENSE file (line 1090 onwards), we use
custom-rhino in some of the tests, which uses that license.


cheers,
juan pablo

p.d.: your vote being..? O:-D

[#1]: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-738https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13419501#comment-13419501
[#2]:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201210.mbox/%3c80852492-ac42-4f8d-82ca-760eefccd...@oracle.com%3E

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great work!

 I've got the following questions concerning the ./LICENSE file for the
 source release:

 There is a list of jar files in the ./LICENSE file of the following form:
 activation-1.1.jar  doc/LICENSE.cddl

 What is the point of including licenses for files which are absent in
 the source release?
 Why license texts appear twice (both in the ./LICENSE file and ./doc/
 folder)? That provides more place for possible errors.
 I believe the list is good to exist in the ./LICENSE file for the
 binary release. Why it does not mention all licenses from the source
 release ./LICENSE file, e.g. Mozilla license?

 How to understand Copyright (c) year copyright holders in MIT
 license. The template style cannot appear in final version of the
 LICENSE. Also, IMHO, copyright attribution does not belong to the
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 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'd like to start a vote on an incubator release for Apache JSPWiki,
 version
  2.9.0-incubating.
 
  Apache JSPWiki (incubating) is a leading open source WikiWiki engine,
  feature-rich and built around standard J2EE components (Java, servlets,
  JSP).
 
 
  A vote was held on the developer mailing list [1] and passed with 9 +1s
  [2], two of them from our mentors.
 
 
  This release candidate fixes the following issues:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12319521
 
  The tag to be voted upon:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating
 
  Source and binary files:
  http://people.apache.org/~florianh/jspwiki-2.9.0-incubating/
 
  Checksums:
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.0-incubating-src.zip
  MD5:287e75857b03b41dca769211591c6144
  SHA1:   74b24e526177b7ddf5394b4b96b67bb9081628a4
  SHA512:
 
 9a080ed994e4308e4ff6386f6e5e88e42d27fc8a8abe37d2874d3c8477fe097037017fffdd03430cdb0ca7a73efba91bf58e70c1943e08c9565170809daa953a
 
  JSPWiki-2.9.0-incubating-bin.zip
  MD5:7e774dc46c112ca895aad60fb607dc60
  SHA1:   e529eb02d13f4061534d85dd0e78d67c5dfe29a5
  SHA512:
 
 575eae72390178005bf7cf57332af9a1da85515d6fc10cf9c8b3548f50743c0e57c0c6f46bc99b70cd1328ef083fb4a4fe9f3867e9ec7c7e4a640b845a2e2ee4
 
  JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
 
  For convenience, this directory includes a binary distribution and a RAT
  report on the cited tag.
  You can manually generate the RAT report from a clean source by running
 the
  rat-report Ant target.
 
 
  Please vote:
 
  [ ] +1  approve, release Apache JSPWiki 2.9.0-incubating
  [ ] +0  no opinion
  [ ] -1  disapprove (and giving a reason)
 
 
  The vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
 
  Best regards
   Florian Holeczek
 
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Re: Rat report

2012-10-10 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Craig,

just committed some changes to address those concerns:

- issues #1 and #2: added into NOTICE/LICENSE

- #3: that comment is most probably there because it is a minified version,
anyway, I've added the appropiate text in NOTICE

- #4: more or less, the same issue as #3. We contacted the author and asked
him to explicitly state the license, which was done soon after. The file is
still used although we may switch to other alternatives in the future. The
whole history can be tracked at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-382

- #5: removed the All rights reserved text and explicitly stated all
types of licenses in the NOTICE file.

- #6: included all the licenses verbatim in the main LICENSE file. Really
long file there. Also, I've noticed some jars' versions where incorrect and
in some cases the license had also changed (for instance jetty is licensed
under AL2.0 now) so, I updated that too.

Hope that all is fine now, thanks for looking into this!


br,
juan pablo


On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:

 Hi Juan Pablo,

 The license update is looking very good. Thanks for pitching in and doing
 all this heavy lifting!

 I have some concerns with the files listed below.

 1. The SilkIconSet images are licensed under CC-attribution 2.5 license.
 The NOTICE needs to accommodate the comment from the source file:

 All I ask is that you include a link back to this page in your credits.

 Something like:

 SilkIconSet (C) Mark James. 
 http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/**icons/silk/http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/

 2. fckconfig.js can be licensed under any of several licenses, but you
 have to choose one of them and include which one in the NOTICE and then
 copy the entire license into the LICENSE. The MPL 1.1 or later is
 explicitly mentioned, and since there have been issues with MPL 1.1, I'd
 suggest choosing MPL 2.0 in which these issues have been resolved.

 For example:

 fckconfig.js Copyright (C) 2003-2008 Frederico Caldeira Knabben licensed
 under the terms of Mozilla Public License Version 2.0 http://
 http://www.mozilla.org/**MPL/2.0 http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0

 3. mootools.js

 The source contains a problematic comment: MIT Style License. But the
 web site says MooTools is released under the Open SourceMIT license, which
 gives you the possibility to use it and modify it in every circumstance.

 So, I'd go with:

 mootools.js Copyright (c) 2006 Valerio Proietti, http://mad4milk.net,
 licensed under the terms of the MIT license http://opensource.org/**
 licenses/mit-license.php http://opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php

 4. posteditor.js

 Looking at http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-**
 jspwiki-dev/201204.mbox/%**3C701083845.7526.**
 1335706069329.JavaMail.tomcat@**hel.zones.apache.org%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201204.mbox/%3c701083845.7526.1335706069329.javamail.tom...@hel.zones.apache.org%3Eit's
  not clear whether posteditor.js is even part of the release any more?

 5. Some other contents of NOTICE are not enlightening. For example,

 OSCache Copyright (c) 2001 The OpenSymphony Group. All rights reserved.

 The All rights reserved doesn't actually grant us any rights. The
 license under which we are using the files needs to be explicit.

 Similarly for all the other projects with All rights reserved.

 6. The LICENSE file needs to copy verbatim all of the licenses for all of
 the projects that we are including. I notice that in the docs/LICENSE.* you
 have reproduced many of the licenses in use, but these should be put either
 into the top level LICENSE file or in a LICENSE file where the code is
 actually located in the source tree. The former is my advice.

 Craig

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:31 PM, juanpa...@apache.org wrote:

  Modified: incubator/jspwiki/trunk/build.**xml
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**incubator/jspwiki/trunk/build.**
 xml?rev=1396339r1=1396338r2=**1396339view=diffhttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/jspwiki/trunk/build.xml?rev=1396339r1=1396338r2=1396339view=diff
 ==**==**
 ==
 --- incubator/jspwiki/trunk/build.**xml (original)
 +++ incubator/jspwiki/trunk/build.**xml Tue Oct  9 21:31:17 2012
 @@ -1703,8 +1703,8 @@ To automate the JAR signing processs, yo

 report reportFile=${doc.rat}/rat.**txt addLicenseHeaders=true
   fileset dir=src/org/
 -  fileset dir=src/webdocs excludes=**/*.js
 -  /fileset
 +  fileset dir=src/webdocs
 +   excludes=**/SilkIconSet-**readme.txt,**/fckconfig.js,**/
 **mootools.js,**/posteditor.js /
   fileset dir=tests/org/
 /report
   /target


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Re: RAT issues [was: Re: [VOTE] JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating]

2012-10-09 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

comments inline

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:


 On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:

  Hello,

 We've added support to generate RAT files (RAT report for RC3 available at
 [#1]) and began to play with it, via rat-ant-tasks [#2]. As noted in
 previous e-mails, all the JSP files lack of a proper header. So, a couple
 of questions:

 - we pass the addLicenseHeaders argument to the report task. A lot of .new
 files get generated with the appropiate header, but none of them
 correspond
 to JSPs files. On the other hand the RAT report detects the missing header
 in the JSP files. Is there any way to enforce the process for JSP files?


 I'm not clear what you are saying here. If the rat addLicenseHeaders does
 not create .jsp files with the appropriate header, you may need to manually
 edit the .jsp files.


yep, I was wondering if there was some flag to create this files, as other
types of files are created automatically. It was like 1:00am and it seems
my brain refused to continue looking at this. A little bit of sed usage
should do the trick anyways, so this should be easily done.




 - we also have some .js files which come with their license header (i.e.:
 mootools.js). RAT detects them as their header doesn't conform with AL
 Header. In this case I assume we should ignore this files, is that ok?


 If you review all of the files that have their own license header, you can
 then notate them. What rat does is report non-conforming files of all types.

 Any files that are licensed under a non-Apache license need to be called
 out in the NOTICE and/or LICENSE files. There are many examples of such
 files in other projects. If you give specific file names, I can help you
 with what needs to be done to include them.


These js libraries are noted in [LICENSE | NOTICE] so I'll exclude them
from RAT analysis.



 Craig


 We've also made java files conform strictly with AL header, so the headers
 issue should be solved once we get rid of the two points noted above.


 thx in advance,
 juan pablo

 [#1]: http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/rat_2.9.0_rc3.txt
 [#2]: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/apache-rat-tasks/report.html


thx for the tips :-)


br,
juan pablo


RAT issues [was: Re: [VOTE] JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating]

2012-10-08 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hello,

We've added support to generate RAT files (RAT report for RC3 available at
[#1]) and began to play with it, via rat-ant-tasks [#2]. As noted in
previous e-mails, all the JSP files lack of a proper header. So, a couple
of questions:

- we pass the addLicenseHeaders argument to the report task. A lot of .new
files get generated with the appropiate header, but none of them correspond
to JSPs files. On the other hand the RAT report detects the missing header
in the JSP files. Is there any way to enforce the process for JSP files?

- we also have some .js files which come with their license header (i.e.:
mootools.js). RAT detects them as their header doesn't conform with AL
Header. In this case I assume we should ignore this files, is that ok?

We've also made java files conform strictly with AL header, so the headers
issue should be solved once we get rid of the two points noted above.


thx in advance,
juan pablo

[#1]: http://people.apache.org/~juanpablo/rat_2.9.0_rc3.txt
[#2]: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/apache-rat-tasks/report.html

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Craig L Russell
craig.russ...@oracle.comwrote:

 Hi Christian,

 Thanks for the review of the release.


 On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

  Hello,

 i'm sorry to -1 your release :-(

 Please see:
 http://www.apache.org/legal/**src-headers.html#headershttp://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#headers


 This is a very important document to read and understand. The jspwiki
 headers are non-standard and should be rewritten to conform. In particular,
 there should be no extraneous verbiage before the Licensed to... text. No
 copyright, no other information.


 I have found a lot of code like in the the src package
 /src/webdocs/Captcha.jsp
 which are missing header licenses. I saw it is in the .java files, but
 they should be basically in every file we release (including jsp)


 I agree, .jsp files need the Apache license header just as .java files do.


 Also export.sh misses headers.

 In the headers of the .java files is: JSPWiki - a JSP-based WikiWiki
 clone.
 Not sure if this is a blocker, but you should use the full name
 Apache JSPWiki instead of only JSPWiki. Personally I would get rid
 of this line actually, but i think it is up to you.


 Getting rid of the line is probably the easiest way to conform.


 Example:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/**
 jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3/**src/org/apache/catalina/util/**
 HexUtils.javahttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3/src/org/apache/catalina/util/HexUtils.java

 I have not tested signatures yet.

 In other projects sometimes the website is being voted on together
 with the releases. Is it not the case with JSPWiki?


 I don't know that I've ever voted on a web site release. Other projects
 just update the web site as needed, with no vote.


 On another note, I agree with Ross. Your mentors should have told you
 that and they should have voted already.


 This first release has been a long time coming, and I was distracted the
 last couple of weeks.

 I agree that the mentors should review the release and advise of remedial
 action.

 I'd like to see a rat report on the release. I believe that analysis of
 the rat report will reinforce the comments that Christian and I made.

 Regards,

 Craig



  Not sure if how the overall
 situation on your daily project life is. If you feel that you would
 need more mentor support, please write a separate e-mail to this list.
 I have only looked at this e-mail as it was open for a couple of days
 without much responses.

 Best regards,
 Christian

 On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpa...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,

 This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache
 JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating.
 This will be our first release. A vote was held on the developer mailing
 list (http://s.apache.org/dzM) and
 passed with 10 +1s (* denoting PPMC):

 Janne Jalkannen*
 Florian Holeczek*
 Harry Metske*
 Andrew Jaquith*
 Dirk Frederickx*
 Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez*
 Fabian Haupt
 Michael Gerzabek
 Christophe Dupriez
 Roberto Venturi

 We need at least 3 IPMC votes.

 This release fixes the following issues:
 https://issues.apache.org/**jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?**
 projectId=12310732version=**12319521https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12319521

 Source and binary files:
 http://people.apache.org/~**jalkanen/JSPWiki/2.9.0/http://people.apache.org/~jalkanen/JSPWiki/2.9.0/

 The tag to be voted upon:
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/**
 jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3

 JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
 http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/jspwiki/KEYShttp://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS


 Please

Re: [VOTE] JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating

2012-10-03 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi again,

we have to submit our IPMC Board report this month, and it would be real
nice if
we could say that we have enough (or at least some, ongoing) IPMC votes.

can somebody take a look at this?

thanks!


br,
juan pablo


On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Florian Holeczek flor...@holeczek.dewrote:

 Hi folks,

 just want to remind you of the ongoing vote...

 Best regards
  Florian Holeczek


 Am 27.09.2012 20:11, schrieb Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez:
  Hi,
 
  This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache
  JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating.
  This will be our first release. A vote was held on the developer mailing
  list (http://s.apache.org/dzM) and
  passed with 10 +1s (* denoting PPMC):
 
  Janne Jalkannen*
  Florian Holeczek*
  Harry Metske*
  Andrew Jaquith*
  Dirk Frederickx*
  Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez*
  Fabian Haupt
  Michael Gerzabek
  Christophe Dupriez
  Roberto Venturi
 
  We need at least 3 IPMC votes.
 
  This release fixes the following issues:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12319521
 
  Source and binary files:
  http://people.apache.org/~jalkanen/JSPWiki/2.9.0/
 
  The tag to be voted upon:
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3
 
  JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
 
 
  Please download, test, and vote by 72 hours from now.
 
  [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
 
 
  Thanks,
  juan pablo
 

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Re: [VOTE] JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating

2012-10-03 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
cool, thanks :-)

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 I will do an exam this evening when I get where I'm going.

 On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  we have to submit our IPMC Board report this month, and it would be real
  nice if
  we could say that we have enough (or at least some, ongoing) IPMC votes.
 
  can somebody take a look at this?
 
  thanks!
 
 
  br,
  juan pablo
 
 
  On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Florian Holeczek flor...@holeczek.de
 wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
 
  just want to remind you of the ongoing vote...
 
  Best regards
   Florian Holeczek
 
 
  Am 27.09.2012 20:11, schrieb Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez:
   Hi,
  
   This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as
 Apache
   JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating.
   This will be our first release. A vote was held on the developer
 mailing
   list (http://s.apache.org/dzM) and
   passed with 10 +1s (* denoting PPMC):
  
   Janne Jalkannen*
   Florian Holeczek*
   Harry Metske*
   Andrew Jaquith*
   Dirk Frederickx*
   Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez*
   Fabian Haupt
   Michael Gerzabek
   Christophe Dupriez
   Roberto Venturi
  
   We need at least 3 IPMC votes.
  
   This release fixes the following issues:
  
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12319521
  
   Source and binary files:
   http://people.apache.org/~jalkanen/JSPWiki/2.9.0/
  
   The tag to be voted upon:
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3
  
   JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
   http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
  
  
   Please download, test, and vote by 72 hours from now.
  
   [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
  
  
   Thanks,
   juan pablo
  
 
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[VOTE] JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating

2012-09-27 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

This is a call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache
JSPWiki version 2.9.0-incubating.
This will be our first release. A vote was held on the developer mailing
list (http://s.apache.org/dzM) and
passed with 10 +1s (* denoting PPMC):

Janne Jalkannen*
Florian Holeczek*
Harry Metske*
Andrew Jaquith*
Dirk Frederickx*
Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez*
Fabian Haupt
Michael Gerzabek
Christophe Dupriez
Roberto Venturi

We need at least 3 IPMC votes.

This release fixes the following issues:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12310732version=12319521

Source and binary files:
http://people.apache.org/~jalkanen/JSPWiki/2.9.0/

The tag to be voted upon:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/tags/jspwiki_2_9_0_incubating_rc3

JSPWiki's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the release:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS


Please download, test, and vote by 72 hours from now.

[ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)


Thanks,
juan pablo


Re: JSPWiki status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of July2012 by JuanPabloSantos)

2012-09-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hello Jukka,

almost there, the only remaining issue blocking the release is JSPWIKI-744,
which is almost complete, should be finished this week (most probably
tomorrow or Tuesday). So, the vote should be casted real soon.


br,
juan pablo

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi JSPWiki,

 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Again, like in April, I'd note that the most pressing blocker is
  getting an Apache release out.

 Any progress on this front?

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org

2012-08-27 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hello,

As a part of JSPWiki's July 2012 incubator report [#1], it was noted that
JSPWiki (incubating) should not ship external jars alongside with code.
This has been achieved in current trunk. However, as part of AOO community
graduation vote thread [#2] it was noted that:

 If you try to build from source the build system will download packages
from svn.apache.org instead of from elsewhere or the mirrors.  That
violates infra policy.

Which is exactly what is happening to us: we download jars from Central as
much as possible but, as there are a few of them ([#3], [#4]) which are not
published in Central, we download them from svn.apache.org. These jar are
all AL compatible so, the questions are:

- where can we place them in order to not violate infra policy?
- could this be a -1 towards voting a release? how to proceed?


thx  regards,
juan pablo

[#1] http://s.apache.org/zsq
[#2] http://s.apache.org/8Gk
[#3] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/lib/
[#4] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/tests/lib/


Re: downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org

2012-08-27 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Joe,

thanks for the insight :-)

can you give one project which has done this?, just to have a look at it
and have this done the right way from the beggining. Are there any special
requirements for these jars in order to be able to distribute them from
mirrors (i.e.: being signed with a key corresponding to the Apache web of
trust or something like that?)


br,
juan pablo


On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Many projects in a similar situation ship a deps
 package that contains dependencies and distribute
 those from the mirrors.

 HTH





 
  From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:42 PM
 Subject: downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org
 
 Hello,
 
 As a part of JSPWiki's July 2012 incubator report [#1], it was noted that
 JSPWiki (incubating) should not ship external jars alongside with code.
 This has been achieved in current trunk. However, as part of AOO community
 graduation vote thread [#2] it was noted that:
 
  If you try to build from source the build system will download packages
 from svn.apache.org instead of from elsewhere or the mirrors.  That
 violates infra policy.
 
 Which is exactly what is happening to us: we download jars from Central as
 much as possible but, as there are a few of them ([#3], [#4]) which are
 not
 published in Central, we download them from svn.apache.org. These jar are
 all AL compatible so, the questions are:
 
 - where can we place them in order to not violate infra policy?
 - could this be a -1 towards voting a release? how to proceed?
 
 
 thx  regards,
 juan pablo
 
 [#1] http://s.apache.org/zsq
 [#2] http://s.apache.org/8Gk
 [#3] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/lib/
 [#4] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/tests/lib/
 
 
 



Re: downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org

2012-08-27 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
I'll have a look at it, thanks!

br,
juan pablo

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 You can also use OSSRH to push more jars to central.

 On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Many projects in a similar situation ship a deps
  package that contains dependencies and distribute
  those from the mirrors.
 
  HTH
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:42 PM
 Subject: downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org
 
 Hello,
 
 As a part of JSPWiki's July 2012 incubator report [#1], it was noted that
 JSPWiki (incubating) should not ship external jars alongside with code.
 This has been achieved in current trunk. However, as part of AOO
 community
 graduation vote thread [#2] it was noted that:
 
  If you try to build from source the build system will download packages
 from svn.apache.org instead of from elsewhere or the mirrors.  That
 violates infra policy.
 
 Which is exactly what is happening to us: we download jars from Central
 as
 much as possible but, as there are a few of them ([#3], [#4]) which are
 not
 published in Central, we download them from svn.apache.org. These jar
 are
 all AL compatible so, the questions are:
 
 - where can we place them in order to not violate infra policy?
 - could this be a -1 towards voting a release? how to proceed?
 
 
 thx  regards,
 juan pablo
 
 [#1] http://s.apache.org/zsq
 [#2] http://s.apache.org/8Gk
 [#3] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/lib/
 [#4] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/libs/tests/lib/
 
 
 

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Re: downloading external dependencies outside of svn.apache.org

2012-08-27 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
great, thanks! :-)

On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
 wrote:

  On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Many projects in a similar situation ship a deps
  package that contains dependencies and distribute
  those from the mirrors.

 On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
  ...can you give one project which has done this?...

 See
 http://apache.org/dist/incubator/stanbol/apache-stanbol-0.9.0-incubating-deps/
 for example.

 -Bertrand

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Re: JSPWiki status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of July2012 by JuanPabloSantos)

2012-07-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Dave,

thanks for the tip :-) Actually we're downloading a few LGPL jars via
maven-ant-tasks,
but this approach seems simpler for our libs, as we won't have to deal with
transitive
dependencies.


br,
juan pablo

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:38 AM, sebb wrote:

  On 11 July 2012 22:26, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh, my misunderstanding then. If that's the case, then there is one
  technicality of the apache release process blocking the release
  (distributing dependencies alongside source), although not a tough one.
  I'll file a Jira and reflect it at the project incubation status page.
 
 
  regards,
  juan pablo
 
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Regarding the binary dependencies. Wasn't the discussion on
 general@more
  focused on (or raised because of) transitive dependencies which were
  brought into the build and not being AL-compatible?
 
  No, all the dependencies discussed were compliant with Apache
  policies. The problem was about having binaries included in the source
  archive.
 
  Also, the build is Ant based, so we need them to be there in order to
 be
  able to build.
 
  Not so; Apache JMeter and Tomcat both use Ant and have external
  dependencies which are not held in SVN.
 
 
  The proposed solution for this case was to put the dependencies in a
  separate -deps archive, that can be combined with the source release
  to make it buildable. The build script can also automatically download
  such separate binary dependencies.
 
  That's what JMeter and Tomcat do: there's a separate Ant task to do
  the downloads.
  But you could also use Ant+Ivy.

 Apache POI uses ant as well. Here are selected parts of the build.xml:

 !-- the repository to download jars from --
 property name=repository.m2 value=http://repo1.maven.org/
 property name=main.lib location=lib/

 !-- jars in the /lib directory, see the fetch-jars target--
 property name=main.commons-logging.jar
 location=${main.lib}/commons-logging-1.1.jar/
 property name=main.commons-logging.url

 value=${repository.m2}/maven2/commons-logging/commons-logging/1.1/commons-logging-1.1.jar/
 property name=main.commons-codec.jar
 location=${main.lib}/commons-codec-1.5.jar/
 property name=main.commons-codec.url

 value=${repository.m2}/maven2/commons-codec/commons-codec/1.5/commons-codec-1.5.jar/
 property name=main.log4j.jar
 location=${main.lib}/log4j-1.2.13.jar/
 property name=main.log4j.url
 value=${repository.m2}/maven2/log4j/log4j/1.2.13/log4j-1.2.13.jar/
 property name=main.junit.jar
 location=${main.lib}/junit-3.8.1.jar/
 property name=main.junit.url
 value=${repository.m2}/maven2/junit/junit/3.8.1/junit-3.8.1.jar/
 property name=main.ant.jar location=${main.lib}/ant-1.8.2.jar/
 property name=main.ant.url
 value=${repository.m2}/maven2/org/apache/ant/ant/1.8.2/ant-1.8.2.jar/

 target name=check-jars
 condition property=jars.present
 or
 and
 available file=${main.commons-logging.jar}/
 available file=${main.commons-codec.jar}/
 available file=${main.log4j.jar}/
 available file=${main.junit.jar}/
 available file=${main.ant.jar}/
 /and
 isset property=disconnected/
 /or
 /condition
 /target

 target name=fetch-jars depends=check-jars unless=jars.present
 description=Fetches needed JAR files from the Internet
 mkdir dir=${main.lib}/
 antcall target=downloadfile
 param name=sourcefile value=${main.commons-logging.url}/
 param name=destfile value=${main.commons-logging.jar}/
 /antcall
 antcall target=downloadfile
 param name=sourcefile value=${main.commons-codec.url}/
 param name=destfile value=${main.commons-codec.jar}/
 /antcall
 antcall target=downloadfile
 param name=sourcefile value=${main.log4j.url}/
 param name=destfile value=${main.log4j.jar}/
 /antcall
 antcall target=downloadfile
 param name=sourcefile value=${main.junit.url}/
 param name=destfile value=${main.junit.jar}/
 /antcall
 antcall target=downloadfile
 param name=sourcefile value=${main.ant.url}/
 param name=destfile value=${main.ant.jar}/
 /antcall
 /target

 HTH,
 Dave


 
 
  BR,
 
  Jukka Zitting
 
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Re: JSPWiki status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of July2012 by JuanPabloSantos)

2012-07-11 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Oh, my misunderstanding then. If that's the case, then there is one
technicality of the apache release process blocking the release
(distributing dependencies alongside source), although not a tough one.
I'll file a Jira and reflect it at the project incubation status page.


regards,
juan pablo

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Regarding the binary dependencies. Wasn't the discussion on general@more
  focused on (or raised because of) transitive dependencies which were
  brought into the build and not being AL-compatible?

 No, all the dependencies discussed were compliant with Apache
 policies. The problem was about having binaries included in the source
 archive.

  Also, the build is Ant based, so we need them to be there in order to be
  able to build.

 The proposed solution for this case was to put the dependencies in a
 separate -deps archive, that can be combined with the source release
 to make it buildable. The build script can also automatically download
 such separate binary dependencies.

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Re: JSPWiki status (Was: [Incubator Wiki] Update of July2012 by JuanPabloSantos)

2012-07-10 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Jukka,

answers inline:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Apache Wiki wikidi...@apache.org wrote:
  + Still following the objetive of making the first Apache release:
  +
  + 4 JIRA issues were fixed since last period, the project website has
 been revamped,
  +  and few other niceties  fixes have got into trunk (for example
 lucene library was
  +  upgraded to 3.6.0).
  +
  + 2 Release candidates have been made, but they didn't succeed because of
  + technical issues. Hopefully the third RC will become the first ASF
 release.

 If I understand correctly, these issues were about functionality in
 the JSPWiki software itself, not about the technicalities of the
 Apache release process.


exactly.


 Do you have any active mentors available to help out in preparing the
 release? If not, please post a recent RC also to general@ for review
 by the rest of the IPMC. A quick look at one of the RCs brought up a
 few issues, most notably the presence of binary dependencies in the
 source release archive - a practice that's considered contrary to
 Apache principles based on recent discussion on general@.


If I recall correctly, I think that we have two active mentors, Craig L
Russell and sam Ruby.
We had 2 more mentors, but they stepped down due to lack of time.

Regarding the binary dependencies. Wasn't the discussion on general@ more
focused on (or raised because of) transitive dependencies which were
brought
into the build and not being AL-compatible?

In our case they're all AL compatible [#1], so that should be fine. We try
to look very
carefully to this issue. For instance, recently we added cobertura+sonar
support, which
weren't AL compatible so we had some discussion [#2] about the suitability
of including
them, given the fact that they were not going to be used to build the main
war. We
decided to not include them b/c they weren't AL compatible.

Also, the build is Ant based, so we need them to be there in order to be
able to build.


[#1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-545

[#2]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201206.mbox/%3CCAMufup6kANwDJT5aVXo4m4D4Uwnj3Srabm=4nvrms_fwbwf...@mail.gmail.com%3E



  + The main issues blocking graduation keep being the same as in the last
 report:
  + resolution acceptance, community and IPMC graduation vote.

 Again, like in April, I'd note that the most pressing blocker is
 getting an Apache release out.

 Beyond that it looks like community activity in JSPWiki is at a bit
 higher level than it used to be for the most part of the past two
 years, which is good.

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Write access to Incubator wiki

2012-07-05 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

could anyone grant me (JuanPabloSantos) write access to the Incubator Wiki?
This way I can fill up the JSPWiki report (btw, apologies on the delay on
that).


thanks  br,
juan pablo


Re: Write access to Incubator wiki

2012-07-05 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
thanks, have just filed the JSPWiki report.

br,
juan pablo

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
  could anyone grant me (JuanPabloSantos) write access to the Incubator
 Wiki?

 Done.

 BR,

 Jukka Zitting

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Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)

2012-06-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
The files.xml file lists 3 or 4 incubator projects and the doap site (
http://projects.apache.org/index.html) doesn't specify anything about
incubating status :-?

br,
juan pablo

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think you get your own DOAP file until you are a graduated TLP.
 Karl

 On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  can someone with enough commit rights add the DOAP file for JSPWiki
  (incubating) to
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
 ?
  The file is located at
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdfSo
  far, we haven't been lucky at jspwiki-dev..
 
 
  thanks,
  juan pablo
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpablo.san...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM
  Subject: Fwd: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
  To: jspwiki-...@incubator.apache.org
 
 
  Can anyone with access to that repo commit the required change? it's just
  adding (at line 96?)
 
  location
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
 /location
 
 
  to
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
 
 
  thanks  regards,
  juan pablo
 
 
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  From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
  Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
  To: sebb seb...@gmail.com
  Cc: site-...@apache.org
 
 
  Thanks for the info. We'll correct the asfext:pmc entry, commit the file
  and then update the DOAP references file.
 
  regards,
  juan pablo
 
 
  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 8 May 2012 22:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
  wrote:
   Hi!
  
   we've placed a DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating) at:
  
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
 
  The DOAP file is not quite correct.
 
  The asfext:pmc entry should be for the incubator, not jspwiki.
 
  asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki//
  should be
  asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org//
 
   We have one question though, if this DOAP file gets updated (i.e.:
 Apache
   JSPWiki graduates from incubation, so most project URLs do change),
  should
   we ping this list regarding the changes or is there some sort of
  background
   process which does automate the process?
 
  The file of DOAP references [1] is manually maintained.
 
  ASF members and PMC chairs are the main groups that can update the file.
 
  [1]
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
 
  
   thanks  regards,
   juan pablo
 

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Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)

2012-06-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

@sebb: yes, the asfext:pmc entry is corrected

@karl: didn't know about any files.txt, I came accross with one DOAP file
while looking for Apache CMS site examples, and began to dig backwards,
ending up at both
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xmland
http://projects.apache.orghttp://projects.apache.org/indexes/pmc.html#Apache%20Incubator


thanks  br,
juan pablo

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:09 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12 June 2012 11:11, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
  As I understand it, the doap files are for PMC's.  The incubator is
  the PMC here.  That's why you don't get privs to modify files.txt,
  because you are not the incubator PMC chair.
 
  Which incubating projects have files.txt references to doap documents
  that you know of?

 See:

 http://projects.apache.org/indexes/pmc.html#Apache%20Incubator

  Karl
 
  On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  The files.xml file lists 3 or 4 incubator projects and the doap site (
  http://projects.apache.org/index.html) doesn't specify anything about
  incubating status :-?
 
  br,
  juan pablo
 
  On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I don't think you get your own DOAP file until you are a graduated TLP.
  Karl
 
  On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi,
  
   can someone with enough commit rights add the DOAP file for JSPWiki
   (incubating) to
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
  ?
   The file is located at
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdfSo
   far, we haven't been lucky at jspwiki-dev..
  
  
   thanks,
   juan pablo
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpablo.san...@gmail.com
   Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM
   Subject: Fwd: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
   To: jspwiki-...@incubator.apache.org
  
  
   Can anyone with access to that repo commit the required change? it's
 just
   adding (at line 96?)
  
   location
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
  /location
  
  
   to
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
  
  
   thanks  regards,
   juan pablo
  
  
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   From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
   Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM
   Subject: Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
   To: sebb seb...@gmail.com
   Cc: site-...@apache.org
  
  
   Thanks for the info. We'll correct the asfext:pmc entry, commit the
 file
   and then update the DOAP references file.

 Have you fixed the bugs?

  
   regards,
   juan pablo
  
  
   On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   On 8 May 2012 22:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
 juanpa...@apache.org
   wrote:
Hi!
   
we've placed a DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating) at:
   
   
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
  
   The DOAP file is not quite correct.
  
   The asfext:pmc entry should be for the incubator, not jspwiki.
  
   asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki//
   should be
   asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org//
  
We have one question though, if this DOAP file gets updated (i.e.:
  Apache
JSPWiki graduates from incubation, so most project URLs do
 change),
   should
we ping this list regarding the changes or is there some sort of
   background
process which does automate the process?
  
   The file of DOAP references [1] is manually maintained.
  
   ASF members and PMC chairs are the main groups that can update the
 file.
  
   [1]
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
  
   
thanks  regards,
juan pablo
  
 
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Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)

2012-06-12 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
done, thanks!

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12 June 2012 19:16, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  @sebb: yes, the asfext:pmc entry is corrected

 Could you change the name entry as follows please:

 nameApache JSPWiki (incubating)/name

 I know SIS and Stanbol don't do this currently, but those ought to be
 fixed too.

  @karl: didn't know about any files.txt, I came accross with one DOAP file
  while looking for Apache CMS site examples, and began to dig backwards,
  ending up at both
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xmland
  http://projects.apache.org
 http://projects.apache.org/indexes/pmc.html#Apache%20Incubator
 
 
  thanks  br,
  juan pablo
 
  On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:09 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 12 June 2012 11:11, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
   As I understand it, the doap files are for PMC's.  The incubator is
   the PMC here.  That's why you don't get privs to modify files.txt,
   because you are not the incubator PMC chair.
  
   Which incubating projects have files.txt references to doap documents
   that you know of?
 
  See:
 
  http://projects.apache.org/indexes/pmc.html#Apache%20Incubator
 
   Karl
  
   On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
   juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
   The files.xml file lists 3 or 4 incubator projects and the doap site
 (
   http://projects.apache.org/index.html) doesn't specify anything
 about
   incubating status :-?
  
   br,
   juan pablo
  
   On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I don't think you get your own DOAP file until you are a graduated
 TLP.
   Karl
  
   On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
   juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
   
can someone with enough commit rights add the DOAP file for
 JSPWiki
(incubating) to
   
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
   ?
The file is located at
   
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdfSo
far, we haven't been lucky at jspwiki-dev..
   
   
thanks,
juan pablo
   
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From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpablo.san...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Subject: Fwd: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
To: jspwiki-...@incubator.apache.org
   
   
Can anyone with access to that repo commit the required change?
 it's
  just
adding (at line 96?)
   
location
   
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
   /location
   
   
to
   
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
   
   
thanks  regards,
juan pablo
   
   
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From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
To: sebb seb...@gmail.com
Cc: site-...@apache.org
   
   
Thanks for the info. We'll correct the asfext:pmc entry, commit
 the
  file
and then update the DOAP references file.
 
  Have you fixed the bugs?
 
   
regards,
juan pablo
   
   
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
   
On 8 May 2012 22:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
  juanpa...@apache.org
wrote:
 Hi!

 we've placed a DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating) at:


   
  
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf
   
The DOAP file is not quite correct.
   
The asfext:pmc entry should be for the incubator, not jspwiki.
   
asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki/
 /
should be
asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org//
   
 We have one question though, if this DOAP file gets updated
 (i.e.:
   Apache
 JSPWiki graduates from incubation, so most project URLs do
  change),
should
 we ping this list regarding the changes or is there some sort
 of
background
 process which does automate the process?
   
The file of DOAP references [1] is manually maintained.
   
ASF members and PMC chairs are the main groups that can update
 the
  file.
   
[1]
   
  
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml
   

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DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)

2012-06-11 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

can someone with enough commit rights add the DOAP file for JSPWiki
(incubating) to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml?
The file is located at
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdfSo
far, we haven't been lucky at jspwiki-dev..


thanks,
juan pablo

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From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpablo.san...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Subject: Fwd: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
To: jspwiki-...@incubator.apache.org


Can anyone with access to that repo commit the required change? it's just
adding (at line 96?)

location
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf/location


to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml


thanks  regards,
juan pablo


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From: Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
Date: Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating)
To: sebb seb...@gmail.com
Cc: site-...@apache.org


Thanks for the info. We'll correct the asfext:pmc entry, commit the file
and then update the DOAP references file.

regards,
juan pablo


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8 May 2012 22:17, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpa...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Hi!
 
  we've placed a DOAP file for Apache JSPWiki (incubating) at:
 
 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jspwiki/site/doap/doap-jspwiki.rdf

 The DOAP file is not quite correct.

 The asfext:pmc entry should be for the incubator, not jspwiki.

 asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org/jspwiki//
 should be
 asfext:pmc rdf:resource=http://incubator.apache.org//

  We have one question though, if this DOAP file gets updated (i.e.: Apache
  JSPWiki graduates from incubation, so most project URLs do change),
 should
  we ping this list regarding the changes or is there some sort of
 background
  process which does automate the process?

 The file of DOAP references [1] is manually maintained.

 ASF members and PMC chairs are the main groups that can update the file.

 [1]
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/files.xml

 
  thanks  regards,
  juan pablo



[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-21 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi,

after discussing it on the jspwiki-dev list [1], we have decided to follow
the advices given at general@incubator and withdraw the vote, in order to
stick better to ASF principles and guidelines.

Our current course of action goes through making (at least) one ASF
release, tidy up the project's incubator site and then recast the community
vote again.


regards,
juan pablo


[1] http://markmail.org/message/f6zan2vcfvr5xujx


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:38 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.netwrote:

 On 4/15/2012 5:46 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote:
  we have made two releases following
  the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have
 received
  through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
  using accepted Apache practices.

 As noted by others, this seems counter-factual.  Although candidates
 may have been prepared, no candidate was voted for release and therefore
 no candidate was a release.  Made no releases would be an accurate
 statement, as would Made two candidates.  Candidates are not sufficient
 for graduation as I understand incubator policy.

 Due to placing an unapproved candidate into distribution, I trust that
 the second comment, finishing 'learning... accepted Apache practices'
 is also a statement due to be revisited.  I'm sure JSPwiki mentors will
 be circling the wagons, and working out what went wrong, and ensuring
 everyone involved understands how the mistakes occurred, and any missing
 documentation will be added to incubator guidance documents.

  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
  [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
  [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator
 
  This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.

 At this time, it would be prudent to withdraw this vote from consideration
 address all identified concerns, and wait for another day to put forward
 this vote again, once i's are dotted, and t's are crossed.



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Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-18 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 On 18 April 2012 05:43, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
  On 4/17/2012 3:57 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
  -1
 
  Unless I am mistaken JSPWiki has not yet made a release under the
  Apache license:
 
  Release 2.9 as first Apache release
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-717
 
  http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/
 
  Apparently this was released.

 Interesting.

 My -1 was posted to this list at  4/17/2012 3:57 AM the last update
 timestamp 2012-04-17 19:26

 A little investigation on the JSP dev list is revealing, in short no
 vote (I don't believe there is ill intent either, just a
 misunderstanding of how we work)
 http://markmail.org/message/lkz77tzyk4onks3f


Indeed. Also, regarding the  we have made two releases following
the ASF policies and guidelines  should have been written as  two
releases were made following ASF *voting* policies . My mistake.
They were community-voted but, for example, weren't signed or
correctly mirrored.

Of course, (at least) one release following ASF guidelines will be
made before IPMC voting and going into TLP.


regards,
juan pablo




 My -1 stands, this is not a release and is not sanctioned by the ASF
 (I'll forward this to infra to ensure they know it is there).


 Ross

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
+1


regards,
juan pablo


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Michael Gerzabek
michael.gerza...@gmx.netwrote:

 +1

 Am 16.04.2012 00:04, schrieb Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez:
  Hello all,
 
  The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since
 then
  we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The codebase
  of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is mature
  enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases
 following
  the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have
 received
  through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
  using accepted Apache practices.
 
  Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
  Incubator.
 
  The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that JSPWiki
 is
  ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
  resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list.
 The
  complete graduation process is described [1].
 
  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
  [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
  [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator
 
  This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
 
  [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
 
 
  Thanks,
  juan pablo
 




[VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hello all,

The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since then
we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The codebase
of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is mature
enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases following
the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have received
through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
using accepted Apache practices.

Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
Incubator.

The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that JSPWiki is
ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The
complete graduation process is described [1].

Please cast your votes:

[  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
[  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
[  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator

This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html


Thanks,
juan pablo


Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi Ross,

no worries, community voting is also meant to bring up this kind of
conversations too. I will try to -briefly- express my opinion.

You are quoting the discussion started at [1], followed up at [2]. I would
like to highlight Florian's comments on first thread at [3], which
summarize pretty well the state of the project. We took Roller as an
example of a succesful Apache project, which is close to what happens to
JSPWiki: mature project + small numbers of committers, with little time.

So, as a community, we decided to proceed with graduation (thread at [2]).
In that sense, is not that I have championed anything, just proceeded with
what we decided previously.

JSPWiki, unlike most Apache projects, is backed by several individuals who
work on it only on their free time, so the absence of committers is felt
deeper than in other projects. The first thing we should do after we
graduate is to somehow ease the initial jump-in into the project. We have
postponed this step after graduation because we needed to set a line
somewhere in our long journey through incubation, and we felt that current
trunk is mature enough to be considered as an Apache TLP ([2] again,
heavily summarized).


kind regards,
juan pablo

[1]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3C24918B2E-766A-4F7D-9C8D-F16EA030F392%40ecyrd.com%3E

[2]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3CCABp47Es8BGj5jcx6ysP7RxFxBw7_zkrHb8Rbz-Fn7noueutA%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E

[3]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3Cbdd708d4-057d-4d20-acc2-24cc55cb3782%40vm103%3E



On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 Looking at the community activity this project looks like it lacks the
 diversity required. For example, on the vote thread on the projects
 own dev list there were only three +1 votes, one of which came from
 someone who has only ever posted to the dev list on two other
 occasions.

 Furthermore I'm worried that in Janne said:

 The point of Apache Incubation is to incubate a community of people who
 can
 create good software. So far our community seems to be dwindling more than
 increasing (and I accept the blame for that - I just haven't had the time
 nor
 the interest to put into this project). So I don't think it's wrong to say
 that
 our incubation has essentially failed, and that we should consider some
 other
 avenue, and go away from messing up the Apache Incubator.

 and Harry said:

 We simply can't get people interested in doing the necessary things, both
 the tech work and the non-tech work, and I personally do not have that much
 time for the project either anymore.
 So moving over to github is fine for me. (what will be the starting point
 in github BTW, the current trunk, or 2.8.4 ?)

 Now we have this proposal to graduate. Juan Pablo didn't like the idea
 of saying incubation had failed and has championed graduation.

 Can I ask for someone more aware of JSPWiki activities please provide
 a summary of why the proposals to declare failure in Jan were rejected
 and what activities have been undertaken to turn this failure to
 graduation. Please don't feel you need to defend the proposal, I'm
 just looking for information to support my vote and also to help me
 think about the discussions a couple of months ago about different
 styles of incubation activity.

 Ross

 On 15 April 2012 23:46, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
 juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since
 then
  we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The codebase
  of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is mature
  enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases
 following
  the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have
 received
  through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
  using accepted Apache practices.
 
  Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
  Incubator.
 
  The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that JSPWiki
 is
  ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
  resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list.
 The
  complete graduation process is described [1].
 
  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
  [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
  [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator
 
  This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
 
  [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
 
 
  Thanks,
  juan pablo



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Re: [VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-16 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
100% agree; I was intending to solely stress the fact that we had the same
concerns pointed by Ross, but we felt JSPWiki could still stand as an
Apache TLP (hence the decision to graduate), and, most important, all of
this was community-driven, not as the result of some individuals likings.


kind regards,
juan pablo


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Graduation is very much *not* about maturity of the code, and very
 much about maturity of the community.

 2012/4/16 Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez juanpablo.san...@gmail.com:
  Hi Ross,
 
  no worries, community voting is also meant to bring up this kind of
  conversations too. I will try to -briefly- express my opinion.
 
  You are quoting the discussion started at [1], followed up at [2]. I
 would
  like to highlight Florian's comments on first thread at [3], which
  summarize pretty well the state of the project. We took Roller as an
  example of a succesful Apache project, which is close to what happens to
  JSPWiki: mature project + small numbers of committers, with little time.
 
  So, as a community, we decided to proceed with graduation (thread at
 [2]).
  In that sense, is not that I have championed anything, just proceeded
 with
  what we decided previously.
 
  JSPWiki, unlike most Apache projects, is backed by several individuals
 who
  work on it only on their free time, so the absence of committers is felt
  deeper than in other projects. The first thing we should do after we
  graduate is to somehow ease the initial jump-in into the project. We have
  postponed this step after graduation because we needed to set a line
  somewhere in our long journey through incubation, and we felt that
 current
  trunk is mature enough to be considered as an Apache TLP ([2] again,
  heavily summarized).
 
 
  kind regards,
  juan pablo
 
  [1]
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3C24918B2E-766A-4F7D-9C8D-F16EA030F392%40ecyrd.com%3E
 
  [2]
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3CCABp47Es8BGj5jcx6ysP7RxFxBw7_zkrHb8Rbz-Fn7noueutA%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  [3]
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-jspwiki-dev/201201.mbox/%3Cbdd708d4-057d-4d20-acc2-24cc55cb3782%40vm103%3E
 
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ross Gardler 
 rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
 
  Looking at the community activity this project looks like it lacks the
  diversity required. For example, on the vote thread on the projects
  own dev list there were only three +1 votes, one of which came from
  someone who has only ever posted to the dev list on two other
  occasions.
 
  Furthermore I'm worried that in Janne said:
 
  The point of Apache Incubation is to incubate a community of people who
  can
  create good software. So far our community seems to be dwindling more
 than
  increasing (and I accept the blame for that - I just haven't had the
 time
  nor
  the interest to put into this project). So I don't think it's wrong to
 say
  that
  our incubation has essentially failed, and that we should consider some
  other
  avenue, and go away from messing up the Apache Incubator.
 
  and Harry said:
 
  We simply can't get people interested in doing the necessary things,
 both
  the tech work and the non-tech work, and I personally do not have that
 much
  time for the project either anymore.
  So moving over to github is fine for me. (what will be the starting
 point
  in github BTW, the current trunk, or 2.8.4 ?)
 
  Now we have this proposal to graduate. Juan Pablo didn't like the idea
  of saying incubation had failed and has championed graduation.
 
  Can I ask for someone more aware of JSPWiki activities please provide
  a summary of why the proposals to declare failure in Jan were rejected
  and what activities have been undertaken to turn this failure to
  graduation. Please don't feel you need to defend the proposal, I'm
  just looking for information to support my vote and also to help me
  think about the discussions a couple of months ago about different
  styles of incubation activity.
 
  Ross
 
  On 15 April 2012 23:46, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
  juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
   Hello all,
  
   The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since
  then
   we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The
 codebase
   of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is
 mature
   enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases
  following
   the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have
  received
   through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our
 community
   using accepted Apache practices.
  
   Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
   Incubator.
  
   The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that
 JSPWiki
  is
   ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft

[VOTE] Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator

2012-04-15 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hello all,

The Apache JSPWiki project entered Incubator in October of 2007. Since then
we have added two new committers from diverse organizations. The codebase
of our product has been growing slowly but surely, and we think is mature
enough to go through graduation; also, we have made two releases following
the ASF policies and guidelines. Thanks to the mentorship we have received
through this period, we have learnt to self-govern and grow our community
using accepted Apache practices.

Given these milestones, I feel that JSPWiki is ready to graduate from
Incubator.

The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that JSPWiki is
ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. The
complete graduation process is described [1].

Please cast your votes:

[  ]  +1 Graduate JSPWiki from Incubator
[  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of JSPWiki
[  ]  +1 Reject graduation of JSPWiki from Incubator

This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html


Thanks,
juan pablo