Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
Sorry, I used a wrong mail address and then resent my vote with the 
correct one; please ignore this mail.


Regards,
Mathias

On 12.06.2011 15:51, Mathias Bauer wrote:

+1 (non-binding)

Regards,
Mathias

On 10.06.2011 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote:

*** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE]

As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding
down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an
Apache Incubator project.

At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here
is a link to the document in the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recallrev=207

As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to
scan and review the archives for this month:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser



Please cast your votes:

[ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
[ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation
[ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

- Sam Ruby

= OpenOffice.org - An open productivity environment =
== Abstract ==
!OpenOffice.org is comprised of six personal productivity applications:
a word processor (and its web-authoring component), spreadsheet,
presentation graphics, drawing, equation editor, and database.
!OpenOffice.org is released on Windows, Solaris, Linux and Macintosh
operation systems, with more
[[http://porting.openoffice.org/|communities]] joining, including a
mature [[http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/|FreeBSD port]].
!OpenOffice.org is localized, supporting over 110 languages worldwide.

== Proposal ==
Apache !OpenOffice.org will continue the mission pursued by the
!OpenOffice.org project while under the sponsorship of Sun and Oracle,
namely:

To create, as a community, the leading international office suite that
will run on all major platforms and provide access to all functionality
and data through open-component based APIs and an XML-based file format.

In addition to to building the !OpenOffice.org product, as an end-user
facing product with many existing individual and corporate users, this
project will also be active in supporting end-users via tutorials, user
forums, document template repositories, etc. The project will also work
to further enable !OpenOffice.org to be used as a programmable module in
document automation scenarios.

== Background ==
!OpenOffice.org was launched as an open source project by Sun
Microsystems in June 2000. !OpenOffice.org was originally developed
under the name of StarOffice by Star Division, a German company, which
was acquired by Sun Microsystems in 1999. Sun released this as open
source in 2000. !OpenOffice.org is the leading alternative to MS-Office
available. Its most recent major version, the 3.x series saw over
[[http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html|100

million downloads]] in its first year. The
[[http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html|most

recent estimates]] suggest a market share on the order of 8-15%.

The !OpenOffice source is written in C++ and delivers language-neutral
and scriptable functionality. This source technology introduces the
next-stage architecture, allowing use of the suite elements as separate
applications or as embedded components in other applications. Numerous
other features are also present including XML-based file formats based
on the vendor-neutral !OpenDocument Format (ODF) standard from OASIS and
other resources.

== Rationale ==
!OpenOffice.org core development would continue at Apache following the
contribution by Oracle, in accordance with Apache bylaws and its usual
open development processes. Both Oracle and ASF agree that the
!OpenOffice.org development community, previously fragmented, would
re-unite under ASF to ensure a stable and long term future for
OpenOffice.org. ASF would enable corporate, non-profit, and volunteer
stakeholders to contribute code in a collaborative fashion.

Supporting tooling projects will accompany the !OpenOffice.org
contribution, providing APIs for extending and customizing
!OpenOffice.org.

Both !OpenOffice.org and the related tooling projects support the OASIS
Open Document Format, and will attract an ecosystem of developers, ISVs
and Systems Integrators. ODF ensures the users of !OpenOffice.org and
related solutions will own their document data, and be free to choose
the application or solution that best meets their requirements.

The !OpenOffice.org implementation will serve as a reference
implementation of the Open Document Format standard.

= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. We are
particularly gratified to learn, during the discussion on this proposal,
that there is a strong role for non-coders to participate in this
meritocracy and as they demonstrate their sustained

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-12 Thread Mathias Bauer

Sorry,

this was a mistake, I used a wrong mail address; ignore this posting, 
please.


regards,
Mathias

On 12.06.2011 15:51, Mathias Bauer wrote:

+1 (non-binding)

Regards,
Mathias

On 10.06.2011 18:02, Sam Ruby wrote:

*** Please change your Subject: line for any [DISCUSSION] of this [VOTE]

As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding
down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an
Apache Incubator project.

At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here
is a link to the document in the wiki:

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal?action=recallrev=207

As the proposal discussion threads are numerous, I encourage people to
scan and review the archives for this month:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser



Please cast your votes:

[ ] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation
[ ] +0 Indifferent to OpenOffice.org incubation
[ ] -1 Reject OpenOffice.org for incubation

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

- Sam Ruby

= OpenOffice.org - An open productivity environment =
== Abstract ==
!OpenOffice.org is comprised of six personal productivity applications:
a word processor (and its web-authoring component), spreadsheet,
presentation graphics, drawing, equation editor, and database.
!OpenOffice.org is released on Windows, Solaris, Linux and Macintosh
operation systems, with more
[[http://porting.openoffice.org/|communities]] joining, including a
mature [[http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/|FreeBSD port]].
!OpenOffice.org is localized, supporting over 110 languages worldwide.

== Proposal ==
Apache !OpenOffice.org will continue the mission pursued by the
!OpenOffice.org project while under the sponsorship of Sun and Oracle,
namely:

To create, as a community, the leading international office suite that
will run on all major platforms and provide access to all functionality
and data through open-component based APIs and an XML-based file format.

In addition to to building the !OpenOffice.org product, as an end-user
facing product with many existing individual and corporate users, this
project will also be active in supporting end-users via tutorials, user
forums, document template repositories, etc. The project will also work
to further enable !OpenOffice.org to be used as a programmable module in
document automation scenarios.

== Background ==
!OpenOffice.org was launched as an open source project by Sun
Microsystems in June 2000. !OpenOffice.org was originally developed
under the name of StarOffice by Star Division, a German company, which
was acquired by Sun Microsystems in 1999. Sun released this as open
source in 2000. !OpenOffice.org is the leading alternative to MS-Office
available. Its most recent major version, the 3.x series saw over
[[http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html|100

million downloads]] in its first year. The
[[http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html|most

recent estimates]] suggest a market share on the order of 8-15%.

The !OpenOffice source is written in C++ and delivers language-neutral
and scriptable functionality. This source technology introduces the
next-stage architecture, allowing use of the suite elements as separate
applications or as embedded components in other applications. Numerous
other features are also present including XML-based file formats based
on the vendor-neutral !OpenDocument Format (ODF) standard from OASIS and
other resources.

== Rationale ==
!OpenOffice.org core development would continue at Apache following the
contribution by Oracle, in accordance with Apache bylaws and its usual
open development processes. Both Oracle and ASF agree that the
!OpenOffice.org development community, previously fragmented, would
re-unite under ASF to ensure a stable and long term future for
OpenOffice.org. ASF would enable corporate, non-profit, and volunteer
stakeholders to contribute code in a collaborative fashion.

Supporting tooling projects will accompany the !OpenOffice.org
contribution, providing APIs for extending and customizing
!OpenOffice.org.

Both !OpenOffice.org and the related tooling projects support the OASIS
Open Document Format, and will attract an ecosystem of developers, ISVs
and Systems Integrators. ODF ensures the users of !OpenOffice.org and
related solutions will own their document data, and be free to choose
the application or solution that best meets their requirements.

The !OpenOffice.org implementation will serve as a reference
implementation of the Open Document Format standard.

= Current Status =
== Meritocracy ==
We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. We are
particularly gratified to learn, during the discussion on this proposal,
that there is a strong role for non-coders to participate in this
meritocracy and as they demonstrate their sustained commitment and
merit

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-10 Thread Mathias Bauer

On 07.06.2011 14:22, Mathias Bauer wrote:

On 07.06.2011 13:00, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mathias Bauermathias_ba...@gmx.net
wrote:

If there was still too much concern about that, I could work on an
improved
list from a technical perspective and provide this list in a few days. I
don't claim to reach perfection, but the result should be much closer to
what we need.



Mathias,

It seems to me like that list would be helpful to have. If it's not
too much work, I think it would be great if you could put it together.


OK. I hope to get it done until Thursday. In whatever time zone. :-)


As it seems, it's more work to do than expected. I'm still at it.

Regards,
Mathias

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Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Mathias Bauer

On 08.06.2011 00:37, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Greg Steingst...@gmail.com  wrote on 06/07/2011 05:50:49 PM:



Besides the content Oracle owns, it seems we could just ask the other

owners

to give the CWS's to the ASF. I mean, really... *somebody* out there

holds

the copyright. We just have to determine who, and then ask. Some

definite

legwork, but it seems doable.



I was assuming that the CWS's contributed to OOo were already covered
under the JCA, Sun Contributor Agreement or Oracle Contributor Agreement,
depending on the date:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Joint_Copyright_Assignment

Or is that note the case?  Anyone know?


With the usual reservation that you should not trust what people who 
arent't legal practitioners tell you about licenses or copyright, you 
are basically right.


Regards,
Mathias

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Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Mathias Bauer

On 07.06.2011 17:13, Danese Cooper wrote:


It's a lot of code as well. When we launched it took a day (as in 24
hours) to build. I'd imagine that situation will have improved
somewhat
Indeed, fortunately. And before the 24 hours build is quoted out of 
the context that these number originates from builds back in 1999 with a 
somewhat strange build system, let met assure that with modern hardware 
a complete build will take not more than 2 hours, depending on the 
platform and the tools used.


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Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Mathias Bauer

On 07.06.2011 13:00, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mathias Bauermathias_ba...@gmx.net  wrote:

If there was still too much concern about that, I could work on an improved
list from a technical perspective and provide this list in a few days. I
don't claim to reach perfection, but the result should be much closer to
what we need.



Mathias,

It seems to me like that list would be helpful to have. If it's not
too much work, I think it would be great if you could put it together.


OK. I hope to get it done until Thursday. In whatever time zone. :-)

Regards,
Mathias

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