Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

The project was aware of these issues before the graduation proposal was 
submitted, and some issues had been outstanding for more than a year. I 
understand it can be complex and take time dealing with 3rd parties about these 
issues, but I do have to ask if there are people from StarRocks on the PPMC, 
why was this not resolved earlier? Also why should those people, that have 
relicensed Apache Doris under Elastic License 2.0, be on the proposed PMC?

Also, this seems very reactive. Projects need to proactively manage their 
trademarks and brand and not just fix things when asked to.

Not a project problem, but I’ll also note that the StarRock changes mentioned 
are not enough to comply with the Apache license requirements. Small changes do 
not allow StarRocks to change the license of a file without the copyright 
holder's permission.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Zhao Chun]

Yes, StarRocks is my employer now.
After I learned that there is a license issue in StarRocks codebase, I
informed this to the company.
When we realized the oversight, we changed the license headers ASAP.

Thanks,
Zhao Chun


John D. Ament  于2022年5月20日周五 20:27写道：

> On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:09 Zhao Chun  wrote:
>
> > Justin, thanks for your note.
> >
> > I'm one of Apache Doris PPMC members, and now working for StarRocks.
> >
> > We have our web developers update our web site to fix the
> > trademark/branding issues.
> >
> > We have also modified our codebase to ensure that unchanged files in our
> > repo bear the Apache license notice only.
> > This was an oversight on our part and we appreciate you bringing it to
> our
> > attention.
>
>
> StarRocks is your employer? These people are doing it because they were
> told to?
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chun Zhao
> >
> >
> > Justin Mclean  于2022年5月15日周日 10:42写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > In short:
> > > - There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some
> that
> > > the PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more
> than
> > a
> > > year.
> > > - Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they
> > have
> > > not. [1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth the PPMC several
> > times.
> > > - What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the
> > > StarRocks project?
> > > - StarRocks trademark and branding issues.
> > > - StarRocks licensing issues.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > > Justin
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[John D. Ament]

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:09 Zhao Chun  wrote:

> Justin, thanks for your note.
>
> I'm one of Apache Doris PPMC members, and now working for StarRocks.
>
> We have our web developers update our web site to fix the
> trademark/branding issues.
>
> We have also modified our codebase to ensure that unchanged files in our
> repo bear the Apache license notice only.
> This was an oversight on our part and we appreciate you bringing it to our
> attention.


StarRocks is your employer? These people are doing it because they were
told to?


>
> Thanks,
> Chun Zhao
>
>
> Justin Mclean  于2022年5月15日周日 10:42写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In short:
> > - There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some that
> > the PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more than
> a
> > year.
> > - Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they
> have
> > not. [1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth the PPMC several
> times.
> > - What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the
> > StarRocks project?
> > - StarRocks trademark and branding issues.
> > - StarRocks licensing issues.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Justin
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Zhao Chun]

Justin, thanks for your note.

I'm one of Apache Doris PPMC members, and now working for StarRocks.

We have our web developers update our web site to fix the
trademark/branding issues.

We have also modified our codebase to ensure that unchanged files in our
repo bear the Apache license notice only.
This was an oversight on our part and we appreciate you bringing it to our
attention.

Thanks,
Chun Zhao


Justin Mclean  于2022年5月15日周日 10:42写道：

> Hi,
>
> In short:
> - There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some that
> the PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more than a
> year.
> - Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they have
> not. [1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth the PPMC several times.
> - What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the
> StarRocks project?
> - StarRocks trademark and branding issues.
> - StarRocks licensing issues.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
>
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Re:Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Justin,
The website[1] has been modified, such as adding asf disclaimer at the footer.
And this artical[2] is a machine-translated article by a third-party website. 
We have contacted the author to delete the corresponding Chinese article.(This 
article is just a personal blog and does not come from starrocks company or 
PPMC members)


[1] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/index
[2] https://chowdera.com/2022/135/202205150625040654.html



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在 2022-05-16 21:21:24，"陈明雨"  写道：
>[1] and [2] has been renamed. And [3] has been removed.
>The website[4] still has some issues waiting to be modified. I will keep touch 
>with starrocks.
>
>
>[1] https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks
>[2] https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector
>[3] https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc
>[4] https://www.starrocks.com/
>
>
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>
>At 2022-05-16 16:31:07, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>>HI,
>>
>>There is also an issue with the naming and use of ASF trademark of this 
>>product:
>>https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks
>>
>>And this:
>>https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc
>>
>>And this:
>>https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector
>>
>>Kind Regards,
>>Justin
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

[1] and [2] has been renamed. And [3] has been removed.
The website[4] still has some issues waiting to be modified. I will keep touch 
with starrocks.


[1] https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks
[2] https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector
[3] https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc
[4] https://www.starrocks.com/




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At 2022-05-16 16:31:07, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>HI,
>
>There is also an issue with the naming and use of ASF trademark of this 
>product:
>https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks
>
>And this:
>https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc
>
>And this:
>https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector
>
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>Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

There is also an issue with the naming and use of ASF trademark of this product:
https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks

And this:
https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc

And this:
https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

> I searched their website and found this is a link "trademarks"[1] at the 
> bottom of every page. Does this meet the requirements? 

No as explained before it does not. Most of the answers can be found in the 
trademark FAQ including [1][2][3] There are further issues with pages like [4].

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#obvious
2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#guide
3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#attribution
4. https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/blog/webinar_220426
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi,


> The current StarRock website is still not following ASF trademark / branding 
> policy.


I searched their website and found this is a link "trademarks"[1] at the bottom 
of every page. Does this meet the requirements? 



[1] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/product/trademarks

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在 2022-05-16 15:25:20，"Justin Mclean"  写道：
>Hi,
>
>Some are recent (in 2022) but I don’t know how or if the author(s) are related 
>to either project. Taking one at random [1] it was published on 15-5-2022 and 
>looks to me not following ASF trademark policy and potentially misleading 
>users, although It’s hard to say for certain as I can only read the translated 
>text.
>
>> First of all, I have to admit that when the name DorisDB was first used, 
>> starrocks and Doris team did not realize that the name violated Apache 
>> regulations.
>
>Having a similar name was bound to cause confusion with users.
>
>> But after learning about it, the Doris team pushed to complete the renaming 
>> operation, and nearly 9 months have passed since that operation. Since the 
>> name change in September 2021, the Doris team, including starrocks 
>> employees, has strictly followed the Apache trademark and branding guidelines
>
>The issue was brought up in April 2021. The current StarRock website is still 
>not following ASF trademark / branding policy. Please see [2] on why this 
>matters.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Justin
>
>1. https://chowdera.com/2022/135/202205150625040654.html
>2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Some are recent (in 2022) but I don’t know how or if the author(s) are related 
to either project. Taking one at random [1] it was published on 15-5-2022 and 
looks to me not following ASF trademark policy and potentially misleading 
users, although It’s hard to say for certain as I can only read the translated 
text.

> First of all, I have to admit that when the name DorisDB was first used, 
> starrocks and Doris team did not realize that the name violated Apache 
> regulations.

Having a similar name was bound to cause confusion with users.

> But after learning about it, the Doris team pushed to complete the renaming 
> operation, and nearly 9 months have passed since that operation. Since the 
> name change in September 2021, the Doris team, including starrocks employees, 
> has strictly followed the Apache trademark and branding guidelines

The issue was brought up in April 2021. The current StarRock website is still 
not following ASF trademark / branding policy. Please see [2] on why this 
matters.

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://chowdera.com/2022/135/202205150625040654.html
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Justin,


1. About articles of "Doris" in google search results



The articles you mentioned in your last email have been contacted to the 
corresponding website for deletion. However, there are indeed some articles 
that are not well described and do not conform to ASF specifications. I looked 
at these articles in general, most of them are based on revisions of some 
historical articles, and are NOT actively spread by starrock or the Doris team. 
As far as I know, since the starrock team changed its name in September last 
year, it has not voluntarily published any articles with branding issues.




But these articles are indeed the consequences of previous wrongdoing. Doris 
PPMC will also continue to promote the rectification or deletion of related 
articles.




2. About PMC list




First of all, I have to admit that when the name DorisDB was first used, 
starrocks and Doris team did not realize that the name violated Apache 
regulations. But after learning about it, the Doris team pushed to complete the 
renaming operation, and nearly 9 months have passed since that operation. Since 
the name change in September 2021, the Doris team, including starrocks 
employees, has strictly followed the Apache trademark and branding guidelines 
(of course there are still some oversights and omissions, but this does not 
represent our motivation). So I think the current PMC list is reasonable and 
can help the Doris project continue to develop healthily.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

Thanks for the update on the trademark transfer.

There are still some branding and trademark issues outstanding, a simple google 
search shows this. e.g. search for "Baidu Doris" or "DorisDB". For instance, 
this page (updated 4 days ago) [1] or this page [2] (updated 7 days ago) and 
others. And then we have this [3] , which from the translation the start reads 
like it's something from the Apache Doris project, but it encourages people to 
use StarRocks. [3] The (P)PMC need to be more proactive in dealing with this.

What concerns me is that the proposed PMC contains people that could have done 
something about these issues to stop them from happening, for instance, by not 
selecting DorisDB as a name in the first place or by respecting the ASF license 
in the StarRocks project. Do these people have the project's best interests in 
mind?

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://segmentfault.com/product/189040112964
2. https://segmentfault.com/product/189040112964
3. https://cdmana.com/2022/134/202205140128177660.html
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Justin,
Sorry for the late reply. First of all, I would like to explain the issues 
about the Doris trademark.




1. Trademark and branding issues related to Starrocks

Starrocks is a database product of a commercial company that used the name 
DorisDB in early 2021. After that, Doris PPMC received a notice that the name 
"DorisDB" was involved in trademark infringement, and began to negotiate with 
that commercial company. Eventually, the company officially renamed dorisdb to 
starrocks[1] in September 2021. At the same time, these domains[2] and 
codebase[3] are no longer in use.




And, I mentioned the progress of this thing in the Doris podling report in 
November 2021[4], which said:

> Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?

> The main branding issue has been addressed(DorisDB renamed to StarRocks).

So, we believe that the branding issue with the Doris has been resolved in 
September 2021.




2. Questions about the transfer of the Doris trademark

The Doris trademark was originally held by Baidu, which started to transfer the 
trademark to ASF in January this year. At the beginning of April, Baidu inc 
signed the Assignment forms, PoAs and Assignment agreement sent by ASF and 
forwarded them to ASF's attorney in China[5]. But I don't know why Mark Thomas 
didn't know about the progress. We are inquiring with the asf attorney in China.




3. What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the 
StarRocks project?

In Doris' Resolution, there are 22 initial PMC members. We have asked every 
PPMC member in the private@doris if they are willing to join Doris PMC[6]. And 
by default, all PPMC members agree to join. Among the 22, 4 of them work for 
Starrocks, and I personally, as the PMC Chair, am not an employee of starrocks.




4. License issue

This is indeed a problem, I have communicated with starrocks and will notify 
the progress as soon as possible. But as you said, it's not a graduation issues.




[1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/3zHPnPbowIj_OpMIHAobGA

[2] dorisdb.com

[3] github.com/DorisDB

[4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/November2021

[5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/dx8c2969171p9z2oz21tq3tfocjt5k9d

[6] https://lists.apache.org/thread/3f5wnb2w8gp48dqh39wf17cw1jf9w6p7




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At 2022-05-15 10:42:17, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In short:
>- There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some that the 
>PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more than a year.
>- Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they have 
>not. [1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth the PPMC several times.
>- What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the 
>StarRocks project?
>- StarRocks trademark and branding issues.
>- StarRocks licensing issues.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

In short:
- There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some that the 
PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more than a year.
- Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they have not. 
[1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth the PPMC several times.
- What is the relationship between the proposed PPMC and chair to the StarRocks 
project?
- StarRocks trademark and branding issues.
- StarRocks licensing issues.

Kind Regards,
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Justin,
I have already made some answers to your questions.
I would like to know what specific problems we still need to solve?




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在 2022-05-15 08:32:58，"Justin Mclean"  写道：
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for promptly fixing that branding issue. However, there are still a few 
>unanswered questions here, and until they are answered, I’m -1 on graduation 
>to TLP. Perhaps one of the podling mentors or PPMC members could answer?
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

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Hi,

Thanks for promptly fixing that branding issue. However, there are still a few 
unanswered questions here, and until they are answered, I’m -1 on graduation to 
TLP. Perhaps one of the podling mentors or PPMC members could answer?

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> I would have some concerns if these PPMC members are on the proposed PMC 
> member list of Apache Doris. Is this the case?


As far as I'm concerned, this is no problem. Confirmation of the initial PMC 
membership list is jointly decided by the PPMC members.
We have solved some issues together (such as branding issues about DorisDB) in 
the past. So I believe we can work together to address other issues that may 
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在 2022-05-14 06:32:41，"Justin Mclean"  写道：
>Hi,
>
>> Could the ASF Foundation Legal Department have **more effective** support
>> on trademark issues?
>
>I’m not sure that the project has involved trademarks to provide support. I 
>certainly found a few things that I was unaware of and that had not been 
>mentioned in the project reports.
>
>> As far as I know, few Doris PMCs have formed a new company and further
>> developed their Starrocks (formerly DorisDB) product based on Doris' code.
>
>I would have some concerns if these PPMC members are on the proposed PMC 
>member list of Apache Doris. Is this the case?
>
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> One other issue is trademark ownership, previously it been stated that Baidu 
> owns the Doris trademark in China. Have this trademark been transferred to 
> the ASF?Yes, It has been transferred. We have completed the communication 
> with Mark Thomas on the matter of trademark transfer, and have completed the 
> relevant paperwork. The follow-up transfer process is currently being 
> completed by a representative attorney.


> It looks like some of the previous trademark/branding issues that have been 
> raised (around a year ago) still need to be resolved. What is the status with 
> this?


These issues have been resolved. For [1], It has been renamed to Palo(Powered 
by Doris). And for [2], it has been renamed to CDW(For Doris)


[1] https://cloud.baidu.com/product/palo.html
[2] https://cloud.tencent.com/product/cdwdoris



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>HI,
>
>One other issue is trademark ownership, previously it been stated that Baidu 
>owns the Doris trademark in China. Have this trademark been transferred to the 
>ASF? [1][2]
>
>Kind Regards,
>Justin
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

It looks like some of the previous trademark/branding issues that have been 
raised (around a year ago) still need to be resolved. What is the status with 
this?

For instance:
https://cloud-tencent-com.translate.goog/product/cdwdoris?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://cloud-baidu-com.translate.goog/doc/DORIS/index.html?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
https://cloud-baidu-com.translate.goog/product/palo.html?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
https://cloud-baidu-com.translate.goog/doc/DORIS/s/xkmeammlk?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
https://cloud-baidu-com.translate.goog/doc/DORIS/s/vkmealtfz?_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

HI,

One other issue is trademark ownership, previously it been stated that Baidu 
owns the Doris trademark in China. Have this trademark been transferred to the 
ASF? [1][2]

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#incubator
2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#podlingxfer
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> 2. I didn't find ASF branding issue on this site[2]. Could you help to point 
> out?

There are several issues but in general this is not being followed [1] So in 
short use of trademark symbol and missing trademark disclaimer,

Kind Regards,
Justin

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

> Could the ASF Foundation Legal Department have **more effective** support
> on trademark issues?

I’m not sure that the project has involved trademarks to provide support. I 
certainly found a few things that I was unaware of and that had not been 
mentioned in the project reports.

> As far as I know, few Doris PMCs have formed a new company and further
> developed their Starrocks (formerly DorisDB) product based on Doris' code.

I would have some concerns if these PPMC members are on the proposed PMC member 
list of Apache Doris. Is this the case?

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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Justin,
Thanks for your check.
1. Looks like this repo has been deleted sometime today. So I think this is 
resolved.

2. I didn't find ASF branding issue on this site[2]. Could you help to point 
out?



[1] https://github.com/DorisDB
[2] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/index

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Email:
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At 2022-05-13 16:11:29, "Justin Mclean"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've brought up the StarRocks header license issue on the legal discuss 
>mailing list, to see what can be done about it.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[ling miao]

> About branding issue
We have tried to communicate and resolve trademark issues regarding DorisDB
and Doris [1], but it seems that there are still some residual
issues.[2][3] As Doris' PMC I will continue to actively try to address
these issues.
Could the ASF Foundation Legal Department have **more effective** support
on trademark issues?

> I've brought up the StarRocks header license issue on the legal discuss
mailing list
Looking forward to it.

> I’m curious is there any relationship between the proposed Doris PMCor
project and StarRocks?
As far as I know, few Doris PMCs have formed a new company and further
developed their Starrocks (formerly DorisDB) product based on Doris' code.

Ling Miao

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/k8klobjzffobbx161nj6plc0mfl8gc7z
[2] https://github.com/DorisDB
[3] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/index

Justin Mclean  于2022年5月13日周五 16:11写道：

> Hi,
>
> I've brought up the StarRocks header license issue on the legal discuss
> mailing list, to see what can be done about it.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I've brought up the StarRocks header license issue on the legal discuss mailing 
list, to see what can be done about it.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Justin Mclean]

Hi,

I think there may still be some issues around DorisDB [1] and StarRocks, 
although these might not be a graduation issues.

For instance StarRocks claims it’s  "Free and Open Software” but it actually 
under the Elastic License 2.0.

There are some minor ASF branding/trademark issues on their site as well. [2]

I notice headers in its code state "
// This file is made available under Elastic License 2.0.
// This file is based on code available under the Apache license here:
//   XXX

// Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
// or more contributor license agreements.  
….”

AFAIK the project could not change the code from the ASF to the Elastic License 
2.0. Any additions could be under a different license but not the original ASF 
code.

Take a file a random I’m compared them [3][4] and there's no difference between 
the code at all.

I’m curious is there any relationship between the proposed Doris PMCor project 
and StarRocks?

Kind Regards,
Justin

1. https://github.com/DorisDB
2. https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/index
3. 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/StarRocks/starrocks/8a2d51f986fd46c1d78e152905e06ce7aa932437/fs_brokers/apache_hdfs_broker/src/main/java/com/starrocks/common/ThriftServer.java
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Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Dear IPMC,
Thanks for all the discussions and suggestions.
At present, everyone's suggestions have been responded to and corrected. If 
there are no other suggestions or comments, I will launch a formal graduation 
vote in these two days.
Thanks again!




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Email:
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在 2022-04-20 19:03:42，"Ming Wen"  写道：
>As Doris' mentor, I have seen Doris' efforts in protecting and solving
>brand issues; during the incubation process, Doris released multiple Apache
>releases and attracted many new committers.
>I think Doris is ready to graduate, good luck:)
>
>Thanks,
>Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
>Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
>Juan Pan  于2022年4月20日周三 14:47写道：
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> [1] shows me the efforts and commitments from Doris community. More PMCs,
>> committers, contributors joined; More releases are available under the
>> supervising and guiding of the committee. Hope it’s better and my support
>> for this discussion.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/doris.html
>>
>> --
>> Trista Pan
>> Twitter & Github: tristaZero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/10/2022 23:50，陈明雨 wrote：
>> Dear Incubator Community,
>>
>> After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
>> Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
>> a discussion with the IPMC.
>>
>> Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
>> analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>>
>> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
>> community since entering the incubator:
>>
>> 1. Community
>>
>> - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies, bringing
>> the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>>
>> - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members), bringing
>> the total number of Committers to 33.
>>
>> - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
>>
>> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all major
>> project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>>
>> 2. Project
>>
>> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
>> resolved.
>>
>> - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
>> requirements[6].
>>
>> - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
>>
>> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the Apache
>> official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
>>
>> - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
>>
>> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
>>
>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
>>
>> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
>>
>> [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>>
>> [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>>
>> [7]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>>
>> [8]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>>
>> [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
>> think.
>>
>> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>>
>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>>
>> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>>
>> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>>
>> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>>
>> and analysis.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>>
>> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>>
>> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>>
>> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>>
>> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>>
>> further
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>>
>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>>
>> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>>
>> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>>
>> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>>
>> and be it further
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>>
>> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Bin 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Ming Wen]

As Doris' mentor, I have seen Doris' efforts in protecting and solving
brand issues; during the incubation process, Doris released multiple Apache
releases and attracted many new committers.
I think Doris is ready to graduate, good luck:)

Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
Twitter: _WenMing


Juan Pan  于2022年4月20日周三 14:47写道：

> Hello,
>
>
> [1] shows me the efforts and commitments from Doris community. More PMCs,
> committers, contributors joined; More releases are available under the
> supervising and guiding of the committee. Hope it’s better and my support
> for this discussion.
>
>
> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/doris.html
>
> --
> Trista Pan
> Twitter & Github: tristaZero
>
>
>
>
> On 04/10/2022 23:50，陈明雨 wrote：
> Dear Incubator Community,
>
> After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
> Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
> a discussion with the IPMC.
>
> Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>
> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
> community since entering the incubator:
>
> 1. Community
>
> - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies, bringing
> the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>
> - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members), bringing
> the total number of Committers to 33.
>
> - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
>
> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all major
> project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>
> 2. Project
>
> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> resolved.
>
> - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> requirements[6].
>
> - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
>
> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the Apache
> official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
>
> - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
>
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
>
> [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>
> [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>
> [7]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>
> [8]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>
> [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
>
>
>
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
>
> -
>
> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>
> and analysis.
>
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>
> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>
> further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>
> and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>
>
>
>
> * Bin Ling  
>
> * Bo Wang   
>
> * Chaoyong Li   
>
> * Chun Zhao 
>
> * Conghui Cai   
>
> * Dayue Gao 
>
> * De Li 
>
> * Hangyuan Liu  
>
> * Hao Chen  
>
> * HaoPeng Li
>
> * Jiafeng Zhang 
>
> * Kaisen Kang   
>
> * Ling Miao 
>
> * Ming Wen  
>
> * Mingyu Chen   
>
> * Ruyue Ma  
>
> * Shao Feng Shi 
>
> * Sijie Guo 
>
> * Willem Ning Jiang 
>
> * Zheng Shao
>
> * Zhengguo Yang 
>
> * Zuo Wei

Re:[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Juan Pan]

Hello, 


[1] shows me the efforts and commitments from Doris community. More PMCs, 
committers, contributors joined; More releases are available under the 
supervising and guiding of the committee. Hope it’s better and my support for 
this discussion.


[1] https://incubator.apache.org/clutch/doris.html
--
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Twitter & Github: tristaZero




On 04/10/2022 23:50，陈明雨 wrote：
Dear Incubator Community,

After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache 
Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make a 
discussion with the IPMC.

Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and 
analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.

The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and 
community since entering the incubator:

1. Community

- 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies, bringing the 
total number of PPMC members to 22.

- 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members), bringing the 
total number of Committers to 33.

- The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].

- The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all major 
project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.

2. Project

- 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been resolved.

- Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation requirements[6].

- Project maturity model is detailed in [7].

- We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the Apache 
official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.

- See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info




[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr

[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv

[3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf

[4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris

[5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/

[6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris

[7] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris

[8] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List

[9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html




Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you think.

The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.

-

Establish the Apache Doris Project




WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of

the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish

a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance

of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,

related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting

and analysis.




NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee

(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is

established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further




RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for

the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based

interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it

further




RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and

hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the

direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris

Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the

projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;

and be it further




RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are

appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:




* Bin Ling  

* Bo Wang   

* Chaoyong Li   

* Chun Zhao 

* Conghui Cai   

* Dayue Gao 

* De Li 

* Hangyuan Liu  

* Hao Chen  

* HaoPeng Li

* Jiafeng Zhang 

* Kaisen Kang   

* Ling Miao 

* Ming Wen  

* Mingyu Chen   

* Ruyue Ma  

* Shao Feng Shi 

* Sijie Guo 

* Willem Ning Jiang 

* Zheng Shao

* Zhengguo Yang 

* Zuo Wei   




NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to

the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with

and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of

the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or

disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further




RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the

migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and

be it further




RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator

Doris 

Re: Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Sheng Wu]

Thanks for fixing this.

I am good for your graduation, congrats to the team.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

陈明雨  于2022年4月20日周三 12:32写道：
>
> Hi Sheng Wu,
> > But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> > source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file
>
>
> We have fixed this issue[1], please review. and welcome to continue 
> discussions on other issues
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/pull/9115
>
>
>
> --
>
> 此致！Best Regards
> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
> Email:
> chenmin...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
> 在 2022-04-18 23:45:44，"陈明雨"  写道：
> >> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> >> source files/path should be listed in the source code's License 
> >> file,Indeed we miss that part, I will add them.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >此致！Best Regards
> >陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
> >
> >Email:
> >chenmin...@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 2022-04-18 23:23:09, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
> >>Hi Willem and Mingyu
> >>
> >>Thanks for updating the status.
> >>I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
> >>codes are from Impala,
> >>and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
> >>decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
> >>But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> >>source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
> >>which I can't find.
> >>
> >>Is there something I am missing?
> >>
> >>Hi JB
> >>
> >>Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
> >>your support.
> >>
> >>Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >>陈明雨  于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道：
> >>>
> >>> Hi Sheng Wu,
> >>> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
> >>> here I also answer from my perspective:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> >>>
> >>> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> >>>
> >>> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> >>>
> >>> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
> >>> requires the support of a mentor,
> >>>
> >>> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
> >>> reviewing and suggestions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> >>>
> >>> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> >>>
> >>> > please do a discussion about this too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
> >>> private@doris,
> >>>
> >>> and also make it public here:[2]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> >>>
> >>> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> >>>
> >>> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll 
> >>> re-explain it here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
> >>>
> >>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has 
> >>> been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on 
> >>> code merge).
> >>>
> >>> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
> >>> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So 
> >>> that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
> >>>
> >>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
> >>> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
> >>> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
> >>> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of 
> >>> both projects.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
> >>> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the 
> >>> metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural 
> >>> changes for this.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that 
> >>> rewrites most of the execution node in query layer, which is different 
> >>> from Impala.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the 
> >>> Impala community with code level iterations and integrations.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the 
> >>> Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris 
> >>> and Impala in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the 
> >>> Impala community for their help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] 

Re:Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Sheng Wu,
> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file


We have fixed this issue[1], please review. and welcome to continue discussions 
on other issues


[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/pull/9115



--

此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Email:
chenmin...@apache.org





在 2022-04-18 23:45:44，"陈明雨"  写道：
>> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
>> source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,Indeed 
>> we miss that part, I will add them.
>
>
>
>--
>
>此致！Best Regards
>陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
>Email:
>chenmin...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>At 2022-04-18 23:23:09, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
>>Hi Willem and Mingyu
>>
>>Thanks for updating the status.
>>I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
>>codes are from Impala,
>>and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
>>decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
>>But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
>>source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
>>which I can't find.
>>
>>Is there something I am missing?
>>
>>Hi JB
>>
>>Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
>>your support.
>>
>>Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>Twitter, wusheng1108
>>
>>陈明雨  于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道：
>>>
>>> Hi Sheng Wu,
>>> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
>>> here I also answer from my perspective:
>>>
>>>
>>> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>>>
>>> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>>>
>>> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>>>
>>> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
>>> requires the support of a mentor,
>>>
>>> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
>>> reviewing and suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>>>
>>> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>>>
>>> > please do a discussion about this too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
>>> private@doris,
>>>
>>> and also make it public here:[2]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>>>
>>> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>>>
>>> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll 
>>> re-explain it here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>>>
>>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
>>> updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code 
>>> merge).
>>>
>>> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
>>> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So 
>>> that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>>>
>>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
>>> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>>>
>>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
>>> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
>>> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of 
>>> both projects.
>>>
>>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
>>> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the 
>>> metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural 
>>> changes for this.
>>>
>>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites 
>>> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
>>> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>>>
>>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the 
>>> Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris 
>>> and Impala in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the 
>>> Impala community for their help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>>>
>>> [2] 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>>>
>>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>>>
>>> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>>>
>>> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>>>
>>> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> 此致！Best Regards
>>> 陈明雨 

Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
> source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,Indeed 
> we miss that part, I will add them.



--

此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Email:
chenmin...@apache.org





At 2022-04-18 23:23:09, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
>Hi Willem and Mingyu
>
>Thanks for updating the status.
>I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
>codes are from Impala,
>and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
>decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
>But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
>source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
>which I can't find.
>
>Is there something I am missing?
>
>Hi JB
>
>Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
>your support.
>
>Sheng Wu 吴晟
>Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>陈明雨  于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道：
>>
>> Hi Sheng Wu,
>> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
>> here I also answer from my perspective:
>>
>>
>> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>>
>> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>>
>> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>>
>> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
>> requires the support of a mentor,
>>
>> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
>> reviewing and suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>>
>> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>>
>> > please do a discussion about this too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
>> private@doris,
>>
>> and also make it public here:[2]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>>
>> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>>
>> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll re-explain 
>> it here:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>>
>> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
>> updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code merge).
>>
>> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
>> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So 
>> that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>>
>> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
>> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>>
>> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
>> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
>> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of both 
>> projects.
>>
>> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
>> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the 
>> metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural changes 
>> for this.
>>
>> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites 
>> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
>> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>>
>> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the Apache 
>> License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris and Impala 
>> in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the Impala community 
>> for their help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>>
>> [2] 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>>
>> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>>
>> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>>
>> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>>
>> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 此致！Best Regards
>> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>>
>> Email:
>> chenmin...@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
>> >Hi Mingyu and Doris team
>> >
>> >Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
>> >
>> >I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>> >there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>> >And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>> >Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>> >
>> >Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>> >committers should be 

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[ShaoFeng Shi]

In the past years, I see the Doris community grows steadly;  It has
attracted many developers, got a lot of adoptions. In the meanwhile, The
community has been more diverse than before (when entered incubator, most
developers are Baidu engineers); and they know well about how to make
Apache releases; Looking forward to see Doris graduates from the incubator,
and good luck!

Best regards,

Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
Apache Kylin PMC,
Apache Incubator PMC,
Email: shaofeng...@apache.org

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陈明雨  于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道：

> Hi Sheng Wu,
> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions,
> here I also answer from my perspective:
>
>
> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>
> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>
> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>
> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group
> requires the support of a mentor,
>
> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with
> reviewing and suggestions.
>
>
>
>
> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>
> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>
> > please do a discussion about this too.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in
> private@doris,
>
> and also make it public here:[2]
>
>
>
>
> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>
> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>
> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>
>
>
>
> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll
> re-explain it here:
>
>
>
>
> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>
> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has
> been updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code
> merge).
>
> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris
> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So
> that the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>
> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this
> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>
> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem,
> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The
> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of
> both projects.
>
> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage
> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the
> metadata and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural
> changes for this.
>
> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites
> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>
>
>
>
> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala
> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>
> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the
> Apache License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris
> and Impala in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the
> Impala community for their help.
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>
> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>
> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>
> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 此致！Best Regards
> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
> Email:
> chenmin...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
> At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
> >Hi Mingyu and Doris team
> >
> >Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
> >
> >I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> >there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> >And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> >Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
> >
> >Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> >committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> >please do a discussion about this too.
> >
> >From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> >from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> >status now? Have the license been handled properly?
> >
> >Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >li gang  于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道：
> >
> >>
> >> Glad to see 

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Sheng Wu]

Hi Willem and Mingyu

Thanks for updating the status.
I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source
codes are from Impala,
and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech
decision, and I don't have an issue about that.
But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied
source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,
which I can't find.

Is there something I am missing?

Hi JB

Sorry I missed your support in the Doris discussion. And good to see
your support.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

陈明雨  于2022年4月18日周一 22:13写道：
>
> Hi Sheng Wu,
> Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, 
> here I also answer from my perspective:
>
>
> > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>
> > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>
> > And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>
> > Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
> requires the support of a mentor,
>
> I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with 
> reviewing and suggestions.
>
>
>
>
> > Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>
> > committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>
> > please do a discussion about this too.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
> private@doris,
>
> and also make it public here:[2]
>
>
>
>
> > From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>
> > from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>
> > status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>
>
>
>
> We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll re-explain 
> it here:
>
>
>
>
> * Relationship with Apache Impala *
>
> Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
> updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code merge).
>
> In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris 
> storage engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So that 
> the query layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.
>
> However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this 
> goal, mainly for the following reasons.
>
> 1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, 
> while Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The 
> difference of targets means that many features do not meet the needs of both 
> projects.
>
> 2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage 
> engine. This required a deep integration of the query layer with the metadata 
> and the storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural changes for this.
>
> 3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites 
> most of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.
>
>
>
>
> For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
> community with code level iterations and integrations.
>
> Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the Apache 
> License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris and Impala 
> in the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the Impala community 
> for their help.
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx
>
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4
>
> [4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal
>
> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
>
> [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 此致！Best Regards
> 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen
>
> Email:
> chenmin...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
> At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
> >Hi Mingyu and Doris team
> >
> >Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
> >
> >I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> >there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> >And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> >Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
> >
> >Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> >committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> >please do a discussion about this too.
> >
> >From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> >from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> >status now? Have the license been handled properly?
> >
> >Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >li gang  于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道：
> >
> >>
> >> Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> 陈明雨  于2022年4月10日周日 

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Hi Sheng Wu,
Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, here 
I also answer from my perspective:


> I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice

> there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.

> And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.

> Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.




Sorry I didn't realize that the graduation vote in the dev mailing group 
requires the support of a mentor,

I will individually ping other mentors and invite them to assist with reviewing 
and suggestions.




> Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether

> committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,

> please do a discussion about this too.




Yes, we have had a discussion about commiter promotion mechanism[1] in 
private@doris,

and also make it public here:[2]




> From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes

> from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the

> status now? Have the license been handled properly?




We explained this in our discussion[3] on the dev@doris, and I'll re-explain it 
here:




* Relationship with Apache Impala *

Doris' current query engine is forked from Impala version v0.7 and has been 
updated with Impala in the early stages of the project (hands-on code merge).

In the Doris Proposal[4], we expressed our desire to decouple the Doris storage 
engine from the query engine through a layer of abstract API. So that the query 
layer could fully follow Impala's evolution.

However, as the project progressed, we found it difficult to achieve this goal, 
mainly for the following reasons.

1. Impala focus on providing query acceleration on the Hadoop ecosystem, while 
Doris focus on a standalone data warehouse or DBMS system. The difference of 
targets means that many features do not meet the needs of both projects.

2. Doris has completely refactored the metadata and has its own storage engine. 
This required a deep integration of the query layer with the metadata and the 
storage engine. We also made a lot of architectural changes for this.

3. Doris has now developed a new vectorized execution engine that rewrites most 
of the execution node in query layer, which is different from Impala.




For these reasons, it is difficult for us to continue to follow the Impala 
community with code level iterations and integrations.

Of course, all code references to Impala are fully compliant with the Apache 
License, and we explicitly declare the relationship between Doris and Impala in 
the NOTICE file[5] and the README file[6] and thank the Impala community for 
their help.




[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/l0w4xnzwsqvlphf57ksc4yq3o998s0cx

[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078398

[3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4

[4] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/incubator/DorisProposal

[5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/NOTICE.txt

[6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blob/master/README.md




--

此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Email:
chenmin...@apache.org





At 2022-04-18 20:43:44, "Sheng Wu"  wrote:
>Hi Mingyu and Doris team
>
>Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
>
>I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
>there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
>And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
>Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
>Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
>committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
>please do a discussion about this too.
>
>From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
>from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
>status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>
>Sheng Wu 吴晟
>Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>li gang  于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道：
>
>>
>> Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> 陈明雨  于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道：
>>
>> > Dear Incubator Community,
>> >
>> > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
>> > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
>> > a discussion with the IPMC.
>> >
>> > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
>> > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>> >
>> > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
>> > community since entering the incubator:
>> >
>> > 1. Community
>> >
>> > - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
>> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>> >
>> > - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
>> > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
>> >
>> > - The number of Contributors is now 289 and 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Willem Jiang]

Please see my comments below.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 8:44 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Mingyu and Doris team
>
> Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
>
> I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
+1 for the gradation of Doris.
I'm sorry I missed the PPMC vote part, but I already gave some
feedback in serval thread of discussions,
I think Doris team made a great effort to do the java binary and whole
package binary release recently.
Now Doris are in a good sharp for graduation from the community build
with the information that Mingyu showed in this thread.
We also addressed the branding issue with DorisDB laster year, PPMC
learned how to protect the branding of Doris.

> Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> please do a discussion about this too.

There are some discussion in this thread[1] about asking the PPMC to
be a part of PMC.
Mingyu already sent a private mail to ask feedback from PPMC.

>
> From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> status now? Have the license been handled properly?

Doris team add the copyright information of Impala into the Notice[2]
file 2 years ago.

I suggested Doris team to discuss the code contribution issue with the
Impala team directly long time ago,
I got some responses from Mingyu, it's hard from them to merge the
code together.
"Both communities are iterating rapidly at their own pace, and many
common SQL features do overlap in part, but only in terms of
functionality, with significant differences at the code level."
You can find more information in this thread[3].


>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>

[1]https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
[2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris/blame/master/NOTICE.txt
[3]https://lists.apache.org/thread/d5qxncy2tog63nq3n6y53f7sym3yl6k4

Willem Jiang

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

Hi,

I think I provided an update about Doris already. I'm supportive of
the graduation and I would be happy to continue as PMC on Doris
project.

+1 to contact the other mentors.

Regards
JB

On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:43 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Mingyu and Doris team
>
> Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.
>
> I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
> there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
> And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
> Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.
>
> Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
> committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
> please do a discussion about this too.
>
> From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
> from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
> status now? Have the license been handled properly?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> li gang  于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道：
>
> >
> > Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
> > Good luck.
> >
> > 陈明雨  于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道：
> >
> > > Dear Incubator Community,
> > >
> > > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
> > > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
> > > a discussion with the IPMC.
> > >
> > > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> > > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
> > >
> > > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
> > > community since entering the incubator:
> > >
> > > 1. Community
> > >
> > > - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> > > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
> > >
> > > - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> > > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
> > >
> > > - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
> > >
> > > - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> > > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> > >
> > > 2. Project
> > >
> > > - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> > > resolved.
> > >
> > > - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> > > requirements[6].
> > >
> > > - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
> > >
> > > - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> > > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
> > >
> > > - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
> > >
> > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
> > >
> > > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
> > >
> > > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
> > >
> > > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > >
> > > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > >
> > > [7]
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > >
> > > [8]
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > >
> > > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > >
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> > >
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> > >
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > >
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > >
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> > >
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > >
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > >
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > >
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > >
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > >
> > > Project, and to have 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Sheng Wu]

Hi Mingyu and Doris team

Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation.

I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice
there is only one mentor who confirmed his support.
And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation.
Could you check with your mentors? IPMC wants to hear from your mentors.

Also, I can't find the discussion(maybe private?) about whether
committers should be considered a member of PMC? If you haven't,
please do a discussion about this too.

>From a code perspective, I remember this podling has some source codes
from Impala, the PMC of Impala showed their concerns, what is the
status now? Have the license been handled properly?

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108

li gang  于2022年4月18日周一 20:18写道：

>
> Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
> Good luck.
>
> 陈明雨  于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道：
>
> > Dear Incubator Community,
> >
> > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
> > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
> > a discussion with the IPMC.
> >
> > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
> >
> > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
> > community since entering the incubator:
> >
> > 1. Community
> >
> > - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
> >
> > - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
> >
> > - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
> >
> > - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> >
> > 2. Project
> >
> > - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> > resolved.
> >
> > - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> > requirements[6].
> >
> > - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
> >
> > - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
> >
> > - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
> >
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
> >
> > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
> >
> > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
> >
> > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> >
> > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> >
> > [7]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> >
> > [8]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> >
> > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > think.
> >
> > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> >
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >
> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> >
> > and analysis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> >
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> >
> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> >
> > further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> >
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> >
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> >
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> >
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> >
> > and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  * Bin Ling  
> >
> >  * Bo Wang   
> >
> >  * Chaoyong Li   
> >
> >  * Chun Zhao 
> >
> >  * Conghui Cai   
> >
> >  * Dayue Gao 
> >
> >  * De Li

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[li gang]

Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate.
Good luck.

陈明雨  于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道：

> Dear Incubator Community,
>
> After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
> Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
> a discussion with the IPMC.
>
> Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>
> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
> community since entering the incubator:
>
> 1. Community
>
> - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>
> - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
>
> - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
>
> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>
> 2. Project
>
> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> resolved.
>
> - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> requirements[6].
>
> - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
>
> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
>
> - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
>
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
>
> [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>
> [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>
> [7]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>
> [8]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>
> [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
>
>
>
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
>
> -
>
> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>
> and analysis.
>
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>
> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>
> further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>
> and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>
>
>
>
>  * Bin Ling  
>
>  * Bo Wang   
>
>  * Chaoyong Li   
>
>  * Chun Zhao 
>
>  * Conghui Cai   
>
>  * Dayue Gao 
>
>  * De Li 
>
>  * Hangyuan Liu  
>
>  * Hao Chen  
>
>  * HaoPeng Li
>
>  * Jiafeng Zhang 
>
>  * Kaisen Kang   
>
>  * Ling Miao 
>
>  * Ming Wen  
>
>  * Mingyu Chen   
>
>  * Ruyue Ma  
>
>  * Shao Feng Shi 
>
>  * Sijie Guo 
>
>  * Willem Ning Jiang 
>
>  * Zheng Shao
>
>  * Zhengguo Yang 
>
>  * Zuo Wei   
>
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
>
> the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
>
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
>
> be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>
> Doris podling encumbered upon the 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Goson zhang]

Good luck!

Lidong Dai  于2022年4月16日周六 13:09写道：

> The Apache Doris community develops very well.
> Good luck.
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> ---
> Apache DolphinScheduler PMC Chair & Apache SeaTunnel PPMC
> Lidong Dai
> lidong...@apache.org
> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dailidong
> Twitter: @WorkflowEasy 
>
> ---
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM 谭中意  wrote:
>
> > great to see this happened.
> > good luck.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM 陈明雨  wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Incubator Community,
> > >
> > > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe
> > Apache
> > > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to
> > make
> > > a discussion with the IPMC.
> > >
> > > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> and
> > > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
> > >
> > > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project
> > and
> > > community since entering the incubator:
> > >
> > > 1. Community
> > >
> > > - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> > > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
> > >
> > > - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> > > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
> > >
> > > - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
> > >
> > > - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and
> all
> > > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> > >
> > > 2. Project
> > >
> > > - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> > > resolved.
> > >
> > > - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> > > requirements[6].
> > >
> > > - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
> > >
> > > - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> > > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
> > >
> > > - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
> > >
> > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
> > >
> > > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
> > >
> > > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
> > >
> > > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> > >
> > > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> > >
> > > [7]
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> > >
> > > [8]
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> > >
> > > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> -
> > >
> > > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > >
> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> establish
> > >
> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> maintenance
> > >
> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > >
> > > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> > >
> > > and analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > >
> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> > >
> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible
> for
> > >
> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> > >
> > > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> > >
> > > further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> > >
> > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > >
> > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> > >
> > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > >
> > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris
> Project;
> > >
> > > and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> > >
> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  * Bin Ling  
> > >
> > >  * Bo Wang   
> > >
> > >  * Chaoyong Li   
> > >
> > >  * Chun Zhao 
> > >
> > >  * Conghui Cai   
> > >
> > >  * Dayue Gao 
> > >
> > >  * 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[Lidong Dai]

The Apache Doris community develops very well.
Good luck.


Best Regards



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On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM 谭中意  wrote:

> great to see this happened.
> good luck.
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM 陈明雨  wrote:
>
> > Dear Incubator Community,
> >
> > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe
> Apache
> > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to
> make
> > a discussion with the IPMC.
> >
> > Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> > analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
> >
> > The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project
> and
> > community since entering the incubator:
> >
> > 1. Community
> >
> > - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> > bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
> >
> > - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> > bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
> >
> > - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
> >
> > - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> > major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
> >
> > 2. Project
> >
> > - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> > resolved.
> >
> > - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> > requirements[6].
> >
> > - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
> >
> > - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> > Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
> >
> > - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
> >
> > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
> >
> > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
> >
> > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
> >
> > [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
> >
> > [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
> >
> > [7]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
> >
> > [8]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
> >
> > [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> > think.
> >
> > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> >
> >
> -
> >
> > Establish the Apache Doris Project
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >
> > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> >
> > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >
> > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >
> > related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
> >
> > and analysis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >
> > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
> >
> > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >
> > the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
> >
> > interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
> >
> > further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
> >
> > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> >
> > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
> >
> > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> >
> > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
> >
> > and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >
> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  * Bin Ling  
> >
> >  * Bo Wang   
> >
> >  * Chaoyong Li   
> >
> >  * Chun Zhao 
> >
> >  * Conghui Cai   
> >
> >  * Dayue Gao 
> >
> >  * De Li 
> >
> >  * Hangyuan Liu  
> >
> >  * Hao Chen  
> >
> >  * HaoPeng Li
> >
> >  * Jiafeng Zhang 
> >
> >  * Kaisen Kang   
> >
> >  * Ling Miao 
> >
> >  * Ming Wen  
> >
> >  * Mingyu Chen   
> >
> >  * Ruyue Ma  
> >
> >  * Shao Feng Shi 
> >
> >  * Sijie Guo 
> >
> >  * Willem Ning Jiang 
> >
> >  * Zheng Shao
> >
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[谭中意]

great to see this happened.
good luck.

On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM 陈明雨  wrote:

> Dear Incubator Community,
>
> After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache
> Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make
> a discussion with the IPMC.
>
> Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and
> analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.
>
> The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and
> community since entering the incubator:
>
> 1. Community
>
> - 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies,
> bringing the total number of PPMC members to 22.
>
> - 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members),
> bringing the total number of Committers to 33.
>
> - The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].
>
> - The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all
> major project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.
>
> 2. Project
>
> - 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been
> resolved.
>
> - Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation
> requirements[6].
>
> - Project maturity model is detailed in [7].
>
> - We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the
> Apache official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.
>
> - See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr
>
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv
>
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf
>
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris
>
> [5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/
>
> [6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris
>
> [7]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris
>
> [8]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List
>
> [9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html
>
>
>
>
> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you
> think.
>
> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.
>
>
> -
>
> Establish the Apache Doris Project
>
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
>
> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
>
> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
>
> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
>
> related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting
>
> and analysis.
>
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
>
> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is
>
> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for
>
> the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based
>
> interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it
>
> further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and
>
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
>
> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris
>
> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
>
> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;
>
> and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
>
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:
>
>
>
>
>  * Bin Ling  
>
>  * Bo Wang   
>
>  * Chaoyong Li   
>
>  * Chun Zhao 
>
>  * Conghui Cai   
>
>  * Dayue Gao 
>
>  * De Li 
>
>  * Hangyuan Liu  
>
>  * Hao Chen  
>
>  * HaoPeng Li
>
>  * Jiafeng Zhang 
>
>  * Kaisen Kang   
>
>  * Ling Miao 
>
>  * Ming Wen  
>
>  * Mingyu Chen   
>
>  * Ruyue Ma  
>
>  * Shao Feng Shi 
>
>  * Sijie Guo 
>
>  * Willem Ning Jiang 
>
>  * Zheng Shao
>
>  * Zhengguo Yang 
>
>  * Zuo Wei   
>
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to
>
> the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with
>
> and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
>
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the
>
> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and
>
> be it further
>
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
>
> Doris podling encumbered upon 

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[陈明雨]

Dear Incubator Community,

After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache 
Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make a 
discussion with the IPMC.

Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and 
analysis and entering the incubator in Sep, 2018.

The following is a brief overview of the progress of the Doris project and 
community since entering the incubator:

1. Community

- 9 new PPMC members were added, from five different companies, bringing 
the total number of PPMC members to 22.

- 20 new Committers were added (including the new PPMC members), bringing 
the total number of Committers to 33.

- The number of Contributors is now 289 and growing[4].

- The dev@doris mailing list currently has 328 subscribers, and all major 
project discussions are happening in the dev@doris.

2. Project

- 7 releases by 6 release managers. All compliance issues have been 
resolved.

- Doris official website[5] is compliant with Apache Foundation 
requirements[6].

- Project maturity model is detailed in [7].

- We have also created a pre-graduation Check List[8] following the Apache 
official website guidelines and are currently moving forward.

- See Doris Project Incubation Status[9] for more info




[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/90fd2pd3r6wgn4hnfdo3rd0wqkv23cgr

[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xc5qj7m2k1ph0mc97otj0nf8vskdfrzv

[3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9yklv4vbp39jhrzbcx3qgpcs1osk3lyf

[4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-doris

[5] http://doris.incubator.apache.org/

[6] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/doris

[7] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Maturity+Assessment+for+Doris

[8] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DORIS/Graduation+Check+List

[9] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/doris.html




Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you think.

The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours.

-

Establish the Apache Doris Project




WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of

the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish

a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance

of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,

related to a MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting

and analysis.




NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee

(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Doris Project", be and hereby is

established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further




RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is responsible for

the creation and maintenance of software related to a MPP-based

interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis; and be it

further




RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Doris" be and

hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the

direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Doris

Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the

projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Doris Project;

and be it further




RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are

appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Doris Project:




 * Bin Ling  

 * Bo Wang   

 * Chaoyong Li   

 * Chun Zhao 

 * Conghui Cai   

 * Dayue Gao 

 * De Li 

 * Hangyuan Liu  

 * Hao Chen  

 * HaoPeng Li

 * Jiafeng Zhang 

 * Kaisen Kang   

 * Ling Miao 

 * Ming Wen  

 * Mingyu Chen   

 * Ruyue Ma  

 * Shao Feng Shi 

 * Sijie Guo 

 * Willem Ning Jiang 

 * Zheng Shao

 * Zhengguo Yang 

 * Zuo Wei   




NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mingyu Chen be appointed to

the office of Vice President, Apache Doris, to serve in accordance with

and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of

the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or

disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further




RESOLVED, that the Apache Doris Project be and hereby is tasked with the

migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Doris podling; and

be it further




RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator

Doris podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter

discharged.




--

此致！Best Regards
陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Email:
chenmin...@apache.org