Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Thanks for your input, Julian and Bertrand! Unless there's anything else that needs to be discussed, I guess we can close this [DISCUSS] thread, start a vote to graduate Hop without Ricardo on the PMC, and vote him in after graduation. Regards, Bart On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:14 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > Thanks for doing the research, Bertrand. That thread describes a case > (from 2019) that is virtually identical to this one. > > I recommend Hop does the same as that case: remove that person’s name from > the resolution, and vote them in as a PMC member after graduating. Since > the effect is the same, they can do that without requiring a vote on > dev@hop. > > For the record, my reading of the thread is that resolutions MAY include > non-Apache people but the candidate project removed the non-Apache people > from the resolution in order to accommodate limitations in the tooling. > > Julian > > > > On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde > wrote: > >> ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache > email addresses in the graduation resolution... > > > > I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members > > asked for the resolutions to be modified to avoid including non-apache > > email addresses [1]. > > > > it's very easy for the PMC to fix that as soon as it's created, by > > voting in the "missing" member. To me that's the safe option here. > > > > -Bertrand > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v7b1l27zf1xbkm45y8ryzs6pc0dwcl9g > > (accessible to PMC chairs and ASF Members) > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Thanks for doing the research, Bertrand. That thread describes a case (from 2019) that is virtually identical to this one. I recommend Hop does the same as that case: remove that person’s name from the resolution, and vote them in as a PMC member after graduating. Since the effect is the same, they can do that without requiring a vote on dev@hop. For the record, my reading of the thread is that resolutions MAY include non-Apache people but the candidate project removed the non-Apache people from the resolution in order to accommodate limitations in the tooling. Julian > On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde wrote: >> ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email >> addresses in the graduation resolution... > > I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members > asked for the resolutions to be modified to avoid including non-apache > email addresses [1]. > > it's very easy for the PMC to fix that as soon as it's created, by > voting in the "missing" member. To me that's the safe option here. > > -Bertrand > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v7b1l27zf1xbkm45y8ryzs6pc0dwcl9g > (accessible to PMC chairs and ASF Members) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi, On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:56 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > ...Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email > addresses in the graduation resolution... I don't think that's the case, in previous similar cases Board members asked for the resolutions to be modified to avoid including non-apache email addresses [1]. it's very easy for the PMC to fix that as soon as it's created, by voting in the "missing" member. To me that's the safe option here. -Bertrand [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v7b1l27zf1xbkm45y8ryzs6pc0dwcl9g (accessible to PMC chairs and ASF Members) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:50 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 04:58, Julian Hyde wrote: >> >> >> Is it possible to give someone an Apache id even if though are not a >> committer or PMC member of any project? Maybe that would solve some of the >> tooling issues. > > You will have to ask Infra about that. Let’s just assume that it’s OK to include people with non-Apache email addresses in the graduation resolution. Julian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 04:58, Julian Hyde wrote: > > > > > On Nov 26, 2021, at 6:05 AM, sebb wrote: > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters > > mailto:matt.cast...@neo4j.com.invalid>> > > wrote: > > > >> As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the > >> project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in the > >> process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that (and I > >> quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people who > >> were committers in the podling". > > > > That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF > > committers. > > > > AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members > > have ASF ids. > > Yes, I gave them that advice. It seemed rather pointless to vote someone in > as a committer, just so that they could get an Apache ID, just so that they > could be could be included in the graduation resolution. And then to have to > repeat the vote for the graduation resolution because the email address has > changed. > > Is it possible to give someone an Apache id even if though are not a > committer or PMC member of any project? Maybe that would solve some of the > tooling issues. You will have to ask Infra about that. > Julian > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
> On Nov 26, 2021, at 6:05 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters > mailto:matt.cast...@neo4j.com.invalid>> > wrote: > >> As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the >> project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in the >> process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that (and I >> quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people who >> were committers in the podling". > > That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF committers. > > AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members > have ASF ids. Yes, I gave them that advice. It seemed rather pointless to vote someone in as a committer, just so that they could get an Apache ID, just so that they could be could be included in the graduation resolution. And then to have to repeat the vote for the graduation resolution because the email address has changed. Is it possible to give someone an Apache id even if though are not a committer or PMC member of any project? Maybe that would solve some of the tooling issues. Julian
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Do I get it correctly that the announcements on the users and dev lists are mainly advice for future releases? There's not a lot we can do about previous releases at this point, there doesn't seem to be any documentation about release announcements, and this feedback was never brought up when we went through the release process for the (4!) releases we did. Regarding Ricardo Gouvea as a PMC member who currently is not a committer: Sebbs feedback conflicts with the advice from our mentor Julian. Can the IPMC point us to any documentation that states all initial PMC members need to be podling committers, can we onboard Ricardo when the PMC is established, or can you clarify the correct approach to handle this? Regards, Bart On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 3:54 PM sebb wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 14:35, Matt Casters > wrote: > > > > We're simply following the advice given here and by our mentors. We > didn't > > send an announcement mail in the beginning and then we did based on your > > valuable feedback. If we need to copy the announcement of our releases > to > > other mailing lists we can easily do so. > > It is important to let users and developers know as well. > They may not be subscribed to the general announce list. > BTW, for the developer Hop list, a more detailed email may be appropriate. > > Also you have not addressed the issue of the non-ASF committer. > I suspect there will be some issues with setting up the PMC if this is > not fixed. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 3:05 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > > > Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2]. > > > > > > Not sure how I missed those. > > > However, AFAICT they were not announced on general@incubator nor on > > > any of the podling lists. > > > > > > > As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to > the > > > > project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is > in > > > the > > > > process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that > > > (and I > > > > quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of > people > > > who > > > > were committers in the podling". > > > > > > That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF > > > committers. > > > > > > AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members > > > have ASF ids. > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202108.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-9ff3db74f16d3e6f41d2f3ab4f35ecde94c43...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202110.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-03d88d76819f10519156908b4369a9b7e1979...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we > > > believe > > > > > > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > > > > > > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion > > > with the > > > > > > IPMC. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > > > > September > > > > > > 2020: > > > > > > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > > > > > > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > > > > > > > > However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. > > > > > > > > > > I could not find announce emails on: > > > > > general@incubator.a.o > > > > > *@hop.a.o > > > > > announce@apache.o > > > > > > > > > > Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect > to > > > > > find some examples. > > > > > > > > > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 > > > committers(mentors > > > > > and > > > > > > PPMC members excluded) > > > > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at > > > least 5 > > > > > > different companies/institutes > > > > > > - Apache Hop website[3] > > > > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity > matrix[4] > > > and > > > > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > resolved: > > > > > > - old releases have been cleaned up > > > > > > - self-assessment is available[4] > > > > > > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing > yaml > > > file > > > > > was > > > > > > added) > > > > > > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > > > > > > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 14:35, Matt Casters wrote: > > We're simply following the advice given here and by our mentors. We didn't > send an announcement mail in the beginning and then we did based on your > valuable feedback. If we need to copy the announcement of our releases to > other mailing lists we can easily do so. It is important to let users and developers know as well. They may not be subscribed to the general announce list. BTW, for the developer Hop list, a more detailed email may be appropriate. Also you have not addressed the issue of the non-ASF committer. I suspect there will be some issues with setting up the PMC if this is not fixed. > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 3:05 PM sebb wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > > > Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2]. > > > > Not sure how I missed those. > > However, AFAICT they were not announced on general@incubator nor on > > any of the podling lists. > > > > > As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the > > > project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in > > the > > > process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that > > (and I > > > quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people > > who > > > were committers in the podling". > > > > That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF > > committers. > > > > AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members > > have ASF ids. > > > > > All the best, > > > Matt > > > > > > [1] > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202108.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-9ff3db74f16d3e6f41d2f3ab4f35ecde94c43...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > [2] > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202110.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-03d88d76819f10519156908b4369a9b7e1979...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we > > believe > > > > > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > > > > > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion > > with the > > > > > IPMC. > > > > > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > > > September > > > > > 2020: > > > > > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > > > > > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > > > > > > However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. > > > > > > > > I could not find announce emails on: > > > > general@incubator.a.o > > > > *@hop.a.o > > > > announce@apache.o > > > > > > > > Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect to > > > > find some examples. > > > > > > > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 > > committers(mentors > > > > and > > > > > PPMC members excluded) > > > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at > > least 5 > > > > > different companies/institutes > > > > > - Apache Hop website[3] > > > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[4] > > and > > > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > > > > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] > > have > > > > been > > > > > resolved: > > > > > - old releases have been cleaned up > > > > > - self-assessment is available[4] > > > > > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing yaml > > file > > > > was > > > > > added) > > > > > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > > > > > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s8vg1nh1g707s4hhcxjtg1zdccjpjh2k > > > > > [3] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > > > > [4] https://hop.apache.org/community/incubator/ > > > > > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj46blkwrhf0l31srtzo5j5dcv7zsqz3 > > > > > [6] http://52.214.20.244 > > > > > > > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what > > you > > > > > think. > > > > > > > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > > of > > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > > establish > > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > > maintenance > > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > > > related to a
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
We're simply following the advice given here and by our mentors. We didn't send an announcement mail in the beginning and then we did based on your valuable feedback. If we need to copy the announcement of our releases to other mailing lists we can easily do so. The reason why it's hard to find anything in the mail archive beyond the most trivial thing... I would prefer not to comment on that. On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 3:05 PM sebb wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters > wrote: > > > > Hi Sebb, > > > > Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2]. > > Not sure how I missed those. > However, AFAICT they were not announced on general@incubator nor on > any of the podling lists. > > > As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the > > project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in > the > > process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that > (and I > > quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people > who > > were committers in the podling". > > That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF > committers. > > AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members > have ASF ids. > > > All the best, > > Matt > > > > [1] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202108.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-9ff3db74f16d3e6f41d2f3ab4f35ecde94c43...@announce.apache.org%3E > > [2] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202110.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-03d88d76819f10519156908b4369a9b7e1979...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM sebb wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we > believe > > > > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > > > > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion > with the > > > > IPMC. > > > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > > September > > > > 2020: > > > > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > > > > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > > > > However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. > > > > > > I could not find announce emails on: > > > general@incubator.a.o > > > *@hop.a.o > > > announce@apache.o > > > > > > Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect to > > > find some examples. > > > > > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 > committers(mentors > > > and > > > > PPMC members excluded) > > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at > least 5 > > > > different companies/institutes > > > > - Apache Hop website[3] > > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[4] > and > > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] > have > > > been > > > > resolved: > > > > - old releases have been cleaned up > > > > - self-assessment is available[4] > > > > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing yaml > file > > > was > > > > added) > > > > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > > > > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s8vg1nh1g707s4hhcxjtg1zdccjpjh2k > > > > [3] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > > > [4] https://hop.apache.org/community/incubator/ > > > > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj46blkwrhf0l31srtzo5j5dcv7zsqz3 > > > > [6] http://52.214.20.244 > > > > > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what > you > > > > think. > > > > > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > of > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > establish > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > > related to a platform for data orchestration. > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible > for > > > > the creation and maintenance of software related to A platform for > data > > > > > > s/A/a/ ? > > > > > > > orchestration.; and be it further > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 12:06, Matt Casters wrote: > > Hi Sebb, > > Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2]. Not sure how I missed those. However, AFAICT they were not announced on general@incubator nor on any of the podling lists. > As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the > project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in the > process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that (and I > quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people who > were committers in the podling". That is rather different from including people who are not yet ASF committers. AFAIK, most of the Infra and Whimsy tooling assumes that PMC members have ASF ids. > All the best, > Matt > > [1] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202108.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-9ff3db74f16d3e6f41d2f3ab4f35ecde94c43...@announce.apache.org%3E > [2] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202110.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-03d88d76819f10519156908b4369a9b7e1979...@announce.apache.org%3E > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM sebb wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we believe > > > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > > > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with the > > > IPMC. > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > September > > > 2020: > > > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > > > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > > However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. > > > > I could not find announce emails on: > > general@incubator.a.o > > *@hop.a.o > > announce@apache.o > > > > Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect to > > find some examples. > > > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 committers(mentors > > and > > > PPMC members excluded) > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 5 > > > different companies/institutes > > > - Apache Hop website[3] > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[4] and > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] have > > been > > > resolved: > > > - old releases have been cleaned up > > > - self-assessment is available[4] > > > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing yaml file > > was > > > added) > > > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > > > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > > > > > [1] > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s8vg1nh1g707s4hhcxjtg1zdccjpjh2k > > > [3] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > > [4] https://hop.apache.org/community/incubator/ > > > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj46blkwrhf0l31srtzo5j5dcv7zsqz3 > > > [6] http://52.214.20.244 > > > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > > > think. > > > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > related to a platform for data orchestration. > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > > > the creation and maintenance of software related to A platform for data > > > > s/A/a/ ? > > > > > orchestration.; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > > > > > * Bart Maertens > > > * Brandon Jackson > > > * Dave Campen > > > * Francois Papon > > > * Hans Van Akelyen > > > * Julian Hyde > > > * Kevin Ratnasekera
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi Sebb, Google found the announcement mails, for example [1] and [2]. As for Ricardo: he is indeed not a committer (yet) but an advisor to the project. His insights as an educator have been very valuable and is in the process of becoming a committer. Our mentor Julian informed us that (and I quote) "There’s no rule that the initial PMC can consist only of people who were committers in the podling". All the best, Matt [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202108.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-9ff3db74f16d3e6f41d2f3ab4f35ecde94c43...@announce.apache.org%3E [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/202110.mbox/%3cpony-5f4f7c3ea0e95da19b9d17390cc7ff00d42fdf75-03d88d76819f10519156908b4369a9b7e1979...@announce.apache.org%3E On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM sebb wrote: > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we believe > > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with the > > IPMC. > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > September > > 2020: > > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. > > I could not find announce emails on: > general@incubator.a.o > *@hop.a.o > announce@apache.o > > Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect to > find some examples. > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 committers(mentors > and > > PPMC members excluded) > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 5 > > different companies/institutes > > - Apache Hop website[3] > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[4] and > > didn't find any issues. > > > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] have > been > > resolved: > > - old releases have been cleaned up > > - self-assessment is available[4] > > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing yaml file > was > > added) > > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > > > [1] > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s8vg1nh1g707s4hhcxjtg1zdccjpjh2k > > [3] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > [4] https://hop.apache.org/community/incubator/ > > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj46blkwrhf0l31srtzo5j5dcv7zsqz3 > > [6] http://52.214.20.244 > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > > think. > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > -- > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > related to a platform for data orchestration. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > > the creation and maintenance of software related to A platform for data > > s/A/a/ ? > > > orchestration.; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > > > * Bart Maertens > > * Brandon Jackson > > * Dave Campen > > * Francois Papon > > * Hans Van Akelyen > > * Julian Hyde > > * Kevin Ratnasekera > > * Matt Casters > > * Nicolas Adment > > * Ricardo Gouvea > > Only apache.org addresses are normally allowed here. > > > * Sergio Ramazzina > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > > it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 07:15, Bart Maertens wrote: > > Hi All, > > After a discussion[1] with and vote by[2] the Hop community, we believe > Apache Hop (Incubating) is ready > to graduate as a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion with the > IPMC. > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September > 2020: > - close to 3200 commits by 28 contributors > - 4 releases(0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) However, it looks like none of these releases was ever announced. I could not find announce emails on: general@incubator.a.o *@hop.a.o announce@apache.o Announcements are an important part of releases, so I would expect to find some examples. > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members(mentors excluded) and 8 committers(mentors and > PPMC members excluded) > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 5 > different companies/institutes > - Apache Hop website[3] > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[4] and > didn't find any issues. > > The topics that were discussed in the earlier [DISCUSS] thread[5] have been > resolved: > - old releases have been cleaned up > - self-assessment is available[4] > - Whimsy licensing issue is WiP (licensing is ok, the missing yaml file was > added) > - project description in the resolution was rewritten > - an old pre-incubator website was removed[6] > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/s8vg1nh1g707s4hhcxjtg1zdccjpjh2k > [3] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > [4] https://hop.apache.org/community/incubator/ > [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jj46blkwrhf0l31srtzo5j5dcv7zsqz3 > [6] http://52.214.20.244 > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > think. > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > -- > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > related to a platform for data orchestration. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > the creation and maintenance of software related to A platform for data s/A/a/ ? > orchestration.; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > * Bart Maertens > * Brandon Jackson > * Dave Campen > * Francois Papon > * Hans Van Akelyen > * Julian Hyde > * Kevin Ratnasekera > * Matt Casters > * Nicolas Adment > * Ricardo Gouvea Only apache.org addresses are normally allowed here. > * Sergio Ramazzina > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and > be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator > Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > discharged. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi Justin, All, The server mentioned as [1] was an old test server that has been shut down. The other issues mentioned earlier in this thread have been taken care of as well. We'll start a discussion about (P)PMC membership, do a community vote on the graduation and start a new [DISCUSS] thread here. Please let us know if there are any other steps or items we need to take into account. Regards, Bart [1] http://52.214.20.244 On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:16 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > I look a look at the project and noticed some thing re the PMC makeup: > - Some of your proposed PMC members are existing PPMC member but are not > signed up to the project private mailing list > - The project has not voted any PPMC members. > - Could some of the existing committers be consider PMC members? > > I’m also curious to what is this site and why it exits? [1] > > Thanks, > Justin > > > 1. http://52.214.20.244 > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi, I look a look at the project and noticed some thing re the PMC makeup: - Some of your proposed PMC members are existing PPMC member but are not signed up to the project private mailing list - The project has not voted any PPMC members. - Could some of the existing committers be consider PMC members? I’m also curious to what is this site and why it exits? [1] Thanks, Justin 1. http://52.214.20.244 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi Julian, All, The older release artifacts[1] are removed and the download page[2] is updated. Only the latest 1.0 release is still available. The missing hop.yml file[3] has been added. We'll discuss and update the resolution description over the next few days. We skipped the community vote because the graduation guide[4] mentions "This VOTE is not a requirement but is recommended". We assumed the positive feedback about graduation we got from our mentors in an earlier thread on the dev mailing list[5] and in the context of the 1.0 release[6] was sufficient. We can of course still organize the vote if necessary. [1] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ [2] https://hop.apache.org/download/ [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/hop.yml [4] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html [5] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E [6] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra12672123f1b20dd61de8146e670b4e0f00b00031658dd9a5271%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E Regards, Bart On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 2:34 AM Julian Hyde wrote: > I agree with Craig; the description of the project in the resolution > definitely needs some work. > > I noticed that the project has not held formal vote for graduation on > dev@hop. I’ll remind the project that they need to have that vote before > proceeding to a vote on general@incubator. > > Julian > > > > On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Craig Russell > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'd strongly suggest that you improve the wording of the resolution > "related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform". It's barely > parseable. > > > > Perhaps make it simpler by removing the entire text after "related to > short for the Hop Orchestration Platform...easily used by other software" > and replacing it with "related to Java-based data orchestration tools". > > > > Warm regards, > > Craig > > > >> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:02 AM, Bart Maertens wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up > in discussion with the IPMC. > >> > >> The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > September 2020: > >> > >> - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > >> - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > >> - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers > (mentors and PPMC members excluded) > >> - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least > 4 different companies/institutes > >> - Apache Hop website[2] > >> - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > >> - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and > didn't find any issues. > >> > >> [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > >> [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > >> [3] > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > >> > >> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > think. > >> > >> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > >> > >> > - > >> > >> Establish the Apache Hop Project > >> > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > >> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > >> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > >> related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely > >> in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > >> including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, > >> auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > >> reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > >> > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > >> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > >> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > >> > >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > >> the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > >> Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a > >> wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > >> environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As > >> a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > >> easily reused by other software; and be it further > >> > >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > >> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > >> the Board of Directors as
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
I agree with Craig; the description of the project in the resolution definitely needs some work. I noticed that the project has not held formal vote for graduation on dev@hop. I’ll remind the project that they need to have that vote before proceeding to a vote on general@incubator. Julian > On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd strongly suggest that you improve the wording of the resolution "related > to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform". It's barely parseable. > > Perhaps make it simpler by removing the entire text after "related to short > for the Hop Orchestration Platform...easily used by other software" and > replacing it with "related to Java-based data orchestration tools". > > Warm regards, > Craig > >> On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:02 AM, Bart Maertens wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop (Incubating) >> is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion >> with the IPMC. >> >> The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September >> 2020: >> >> - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors >> - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) >> - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers (mentors and >> PPMC members excluded) >> - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 4 >> different companies/institutes >> - Apache Hop website[2] >> - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org >> - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and >> didn't find any issues. >> >> [1] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E >> [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ >> [3] >> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >> >> Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you >> think. >> >> The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. >> >> - >> >> Establish the Apache Hop Project >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish >> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance >> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >> related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely >> in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, >> including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, >> auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a >> reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is >> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for >> the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop >> Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a >> wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development >> environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As >> a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be >> easily reused by other software; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby >> is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of >> the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to >> have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the >> scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: >> >> * Bart Maertens >> * Brandon Jackson >> * Francois Papon >> * Hans Van Akelyen >> * Hiromu Hota >> * Julian Hyde >> * Kevin Ratnasekera >> * Matt Casters >> * Maximilian Michels >> * Nicolas Adment >> * Tom Barber >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in >> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors >> and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, >> removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be >> it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the >> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and >> be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator >> Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi, I'd strongly suggest that you improve the wording of the resolution "related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform". It's barely parseable. Perhaps make it simpler by removing the entire text after "related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform...easily used by other software" and replacing it with "related to Java-based data orchestration tools". Warm regards, Craig > On Oct 15, 2021, at 3:02 AM, Bart Maertens wrote: > > Hi All, > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop (Incubating) > is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up in discussion > with the IPMC. > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September > 2020: > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers (mentors and > PPMC members excluded) > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 4 > different companies/institutes > - Apache Hop website[2] > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and didn't > find any issues. > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > [3] https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you think. > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > - > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > * Bart Maertens > * Brandon Jackson > * Francois Papon > * Hans Van Akelyen > * Hiromu Hota > * Julian Hyde > * Kevin Ratnasekera > * Matt Casters > * Maximilian Michels > * Nicolas Adment > * Tom Barber > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and > be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator > Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > discharged. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > Craig L Russell c...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
I don’t think the infractions noted by Sebb affect Hop’s readiness to graduate. In a well-running project those would be raised on the dev list and easily resolved. Hop is a well-running project with an open and active community. I have been one of its mentors through Incubation. It is ready to be a top-level Apache project. Good luck! > On Oct 15, 2021, at 5:03 AM, sebb wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:51, sebb wrote: > >> There is a minor issue with the website: >> https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop >> Whimsy reports some Licensing issues: >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus >> >> > This is presumably caused by a missing yml file at: > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/ > > >>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:44, Calvin Kirs wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help >>> the >>> decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of >>> Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project. >>> >>> sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道： >>> The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and >>> the download page updated. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user >>> lists, nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens >>> wrote: > Hi All, > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring >>> it up > in discussion with the IPMC. > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September > 2020: > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers >>> (mentors > and PPMC members excluded) > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at >>> least 4 > different companies/institutes > - Apache Hop website[2] > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and > didn't find any issues. > > [1] > >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > [3] > >>> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what >>> you > think. > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > >>> - > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests >>> of > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to >>> establish > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and >>> maintenance > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written >>> completely > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata >>> analysis, > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide >>> a > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. >>> As > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and >>> hereby > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction >>> of > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:51, sebb wrote: > There is a minor issue with the website: > https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop > Whimsy reports some Licensing issues: > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus > > This is presumably caused by a missing yml file at: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/podlings/ > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:44, Calvin Kirs wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help >> the >> decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of >> Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project. >> >> sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道： >> >> > The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and >> the >> > download page updated. >> > >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ >> > >> > Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o >> > list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user >> lists, >> > nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens >> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi All, >> > > >> > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop >> > > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring >> it >> > up >> > > in discussion with the IPMC. >> > > >> > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in >> > September >> > > 2020: >> > > >> > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors >> > > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) >> > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers >> (mentors >> > > and PPMC members excluded) >> > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at >> least 4 >> > > different companies/institutes >> > > - Apache Hop website[2] >> > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org >> > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and >> > > didn't find any issues. >> > > >> > > [1] >> > > >> > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E >> > > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ >> > > [3] >> > > >> > >> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >> > > >> > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what >> you >> > > think. >> > > >> > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> - >> > > >> > > Establish the Apache Hop Project >> > > >> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests >> of >> > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to >> establish >> > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and >> maintenance >> > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >> > > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written >> completely >> > > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, >> > > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata >> analysis, >> > > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a >> > > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. >> > > >> > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >> > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is >> > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >> > > >> > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for >> > > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop >> > > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide >> a >> > > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development >> > > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. >> As >> > > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be >> > > easily reused by other software; and be it further >> > > >> > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and >> hereby >> > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction >> of >> > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to >> > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the >> > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further >> > > >> > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are >> > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: >> > > >> > > * Bart Maertens >> > > * Brandon Jackson >> > > * Francois Papon >> > > * Hans Van Akelyen >> > > * Hiromu Hota >> > > * Julian Hyde >> > > * Kevin Ratnasekera >> > > * Matt Casters >> > > * Maximilian Michels >> > > * Nicolas Adment
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi Seb, It's because we have both the https://www.apache.org/licenses/ and https://apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 on our website. In this case we believe it should be green, and the check is not working 100% in our case. Cheers, Hans On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 13:51, sebb wrote: > There is a minor issue with the website: > https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop > Whimsy reports some Licensing issues: > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:44, Calvin Kirs wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help > the > > decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of > > Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project. > > > > sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道： > > > > > The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and > > the > > > download page updated. > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ > > > > > > Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o > > > list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user > > lists, > > > nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > > > > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring > > it > > > up > > > > in discussion with the IPMC. > > > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > > September > > > > 2020: > > > > > > > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > > > > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers > > (mentors > > > > and PPMC members excluded) > > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at > > least 4 > > > > different companies/institutes > > > > - Apache Hop website[2] > > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] > and > > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > > > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > > > [3] > > > > > > > > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what > you > > > > think. > > > > > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > of > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > > establish > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > > maintenance > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written > completely > > > > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > > > > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata > analysis, > > > > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > > > > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible > for > > > > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > > > > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to > provide a > > > > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual > development > > > > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. > > As > > > > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > > > > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and > hereby > > > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction > of > > > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > > > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > > > > > > > * Bart Maertens > > > > * Brandon Jackson > > > > * Francois Papon
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
There is a minor issue with the website: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/hop Whimsy reports some Licensing issues: https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/hop#podlingStatus On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 12:44, Calvin Kirs wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help the > decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of > Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project. > > sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道： > > > The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and > the > > download page updated. > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ > > > > Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o > > list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user > lists, > > nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > > > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring > it > > up > > > in discussion with the IPMC. > > > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > > September > > > 2020: > > > > > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > > > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers > (mentors > > > and PPMC members excluded) > > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at > least 4 > > > different companies/institutes > > > - Apache Hop website[2] > > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and > > > didn't find any issues. > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > > [3] > > > > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > > > think. > > > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > establish > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely > > > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > > > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, > > > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > > > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > > > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > > > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a > > > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > > > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. > As > > > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > > > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > > > > > * Bart Maertens > > > * Brandon Jackson > > > * Francois Papon > > > * Hans Van Akelyen > > > * Hiromu Hota > > > * Julian Hyde > > > * Kevin Ratnasekera > > > * Matt Casters > > > * Maximilian Michels > > > * Nicolas Adment > > > * Tom Barber > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > > > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > > > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > > > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation,
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
Hi, Is there a self-assessment for Hop Graduation Maturity Assessment？ help the decision (of the mentors, community, Incubator PMC, and ASF Board of Directors) discussion to graduate it as a top-level Apache project. sebb 于2021年10月15日周五 下午6:34写道： > The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and the > download page updated. > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ > > Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o > list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user lists, > nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it > up > > in discussion with the IPMC. > > > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in > September > > 2020: > > > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers (mentors > > and PPMC members excluded) > > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 4 > > different companies/institutes > > - Apache Hop website[2] > > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and > > didn't find any issues. > > > > [1] > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > > [3] > > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > > think. > > > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > > - > > > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely > > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, > > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a > > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As > > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > > > * Bart Maertens > > * Brandon Jackson > > * Francois Papon > > * Hans Van Akelyen > > * Hiromu Hota > > * Julian Hyde > > * Kevin Ratnasekera > > * Matt Casters > > * Maximilian Michels > > * Nicolas Adment > > * Tom Barber > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > > it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the > > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and > > be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator > > Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > > discharged. > > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Hop (Incubating) as a TLP
The download area has several old releases; these should be removed and the download page updated. https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/hop/ Although there are release Announce emails on the general announce@a.o list, I could not find any such announcements on the Hop dev or user lists, nor on general@incubator. This seems odd. On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Bart Maertens wrote: > Hi All, > > After a discussion with the community[1], we believe Apache Hop > (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to bring it up > in discussion with the IPMC. > > The Hop community achievements since Hop joined the Incubator in September > 2020: > > - over 3000 commits by 27 contributors > - 4 releases (0.60, 0.70, 0.99, 1.0) > - 5 mentors, 6 PPMC members (mentors excluded) and 8 committers (mentors > and PPMC members excluded) > - diverse committers and PPMC, with regular contributions from at least 4 > different companies/institutes > - Apache Hop website[2] > - dev conversations at d...@hop.apache.org > - assessed ourselves against the Apache Project maturity matrix[3] and > didn't find any issues. > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/reab316256de8b7d8a8e2c73dbc412ca82a3f7c17243163061f848f9c%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > [2] https://hop.incubator.apache.org/ > [3] > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > > Please see the proposed board resolution below and let us know what you > think. > > The discussion will remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > - > > Establish the Apache Hop Project > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > related to short for the Hop Orchestration Platform. Written completely > in Java it aims to provide a wide range of data orchestration tools, > including a visual development environment, servers, metadata analysis, > auditing services and so on. As a platform, Hop also wants to be a > reusable library so that it can be easily reused by other software. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Hop Project", be and hereby is > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is responsible for > the creation and maintenance of software related to short for the Hop > Orchestration Platform. Written completely in Java it aims to provide a > wide range of data orchestration tools, including a visual development > environment, servers, metadata analysis, auditing services and so on. As > a platform, Hop also wants to be a reusable library so that it can be > easily reused by other software; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Hop" be and hereby > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of > the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Hop Project, and to > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the > scope of responsibility of the Apache Hop Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Hop Project: > > * Bart Maertens > * Brandon Jackson > * Francois Papon > * Hans Van Akelyen > * Hiromu Hota > * Julian Hyde > * Kevin Ratnasekera > * Matt Casters > * Maximilian Michels > * Nicolas Adment > * Tom Barber > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hans Van Akelyen be > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Hop, to serve in > accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors > and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, > removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be > it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Hop Project be and hereby is tasked with the > migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Hop podling; and > be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator > Hop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter > discharged. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
