Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Looks like the feedback has been well received.

Any reason not to start a vote?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jake,

 Thank you for the comment.

 We had discussions on how to structure mailing lists with our mentors.
 We took our mentors' suggestions to start with a minimal set (two mailing
 lists) not to miss important discussions and to split them if there are
 demands.

 Thanks!
 -Gon

 ---
 Byung-Gon Chun






 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote:

 Would suggest you use the following format for the mailing lists (you have
 the older format listed) and also split the dev and commits. Also a lot of
 new projects have been also splitting out the jira issues from dev to cut
 down on noise on the dev list, would add issues@reef if you want to do
 this.

 private@reef for private PMC discussions
 dev@reef for technical discussions
 commits@reef notification about commits
 issues@reef jira notifications

 -Jake



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 
  I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
  scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
  applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
  The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put
 this
  on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
 
  I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
 
  -Gon
 
  --
  Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
  ===
 
  # REEFProposal - Incubator
 
 
  # Abstract
 
  REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
  computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
  on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 
  # Proposal
 
  REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
  fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
  models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
  resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
  capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
  those efficiently.
 
  Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
  value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
  SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
  Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
 
 
  # Background
 
  The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
  emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
  stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
  cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
  applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
  - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
  fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
  layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
  challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
  and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
 
  REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
  task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
  sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
  caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
  frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
  operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
  iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
  MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
 
 
  # Rationale
 
  Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
  applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
 Foundation
  is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
 
 
  # Current Status
 
  REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
  National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
  License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
  github.com.
 
 
  # Meritocracy
 
  We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
  meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
  significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
 
 
  # Community
 
  REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
  Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
  collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
  contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
  attract developers who are interested in creating common building
  blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
  applications.
 
 
  # Core Developers
 
  Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
  UW and Seoul National University.
 
 
  # Alignment
 
  REEF 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-08 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
Hi Roman,

I will send an email to start a vote soon.

Thanks!
-Gon



On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:

 Looks like the feedback has been well received.

 Any reason not to start a vote?

 Thanks,
 Roman.

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Jake,
 
  Thank you for the comment.
 
  We had discussions on how to structure mailing lists with our mentors.
  We took our mentors' suggestions to start with a minimal set (two mailing
  lists) not to miss important discussions and to split them if there are
  demands.
 
  Thanks!
  -Gon
 
  ---
  Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  Would suggest you use the following format for the mailing lists (you
 have
  the older format listed) and also split the dev and commits. Also a lot
 of
  new projects have been also splitting out the jira issues from dev to
 cut
  down on noise on the dev list, would add issues@reef if you want to do
  this.
 
  private@reef for private PMC discussions
  dev@reef for technical discussions
  commits@reef notification about commits
  issues@reef jira notifications
 
  -Jake
 
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi everyone,
  
   I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF
 is a
   scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
   applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and
 Mesos.
  
   The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put
  this
   on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
  
   I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
  
   -Gon
  
   --
   Byung-Gon Chun
  
  
   ===
  
   # REEFProposal - Incubator
  
  
   # Abstract
  
   REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
   computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
   on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
  
  
   # Proposal
  
   REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
   fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
   models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
   resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
   capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
   those efficiently.
  
   Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
   value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
   SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
   Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
  
  
   # Background
  
   The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
   emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
   stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
   cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
   applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
   - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
   fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
   layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
   challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
   and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
  
   REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
   task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
   sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
   caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
   frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
   operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
   iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
   MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
  
  
   # Rationale
  
   Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
   applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
  Foundation
   is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
  
  
   # Current Status
  
   REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
   National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
   License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
   github.com.
  
  
   # Meritocracy
  
   We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
   meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
   significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
  
  
   # Community
  
   REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
   Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
   collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
   contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
   attract 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-05 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
Hi Roman,

Thank you for the comment.

We will add the following description that covers Helix to the proposal
page.

Apache Helix automates application-wide management operations which require
global knowledge and coordination, such as repartitioning of resources and
scheduling of maintenance tasks. Helix separates global coordination
concerns from the functional tasks of the application with a state machine
abstraction. REEF's generic layer makes it easy to program the functional
and management tasks, which may span small or large groups within the
application. Helix can work hand-in-hand with REEF, by providing the global
management component for REEF applications.

Thanks!
- Gon

---
Byung-Gon Chun



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi!

 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
  applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
 Foundation
  is the perfect home for hosting REEF.

 [ snip...snip...snip ]

  ## Relationships with Other Apache Products

 Really appreciated the detailed review of potential relationships,
 but was surprised not to see Apache Helix on the list of related
 projects.

 Given the exec summary of the project -- there must be some
 relationship. Or am I reading it incorrectly?

 Thanks,
 Roman.

 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
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-- 
Byung-Gon Chun


Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-05 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
Hi Jake,

Thank you for the comment.

We had discussions on how to structure mailing lists with our mentors.
We took our mentors' suggestions to start with a minimal set (two mailing
lists) not to miss important discussions and to split them if there are
demands.

Thanks!
-Gon

---
Byung-Gon Chun






On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote:

 Would suggest you use the following format for the mailing lists (you have
 the older format listed) and also split the dev and commits. Also a lot of
 new projects have been also splitting out the jira issues from dev to cut
 down on noise on the dev list, would add issues@reef if you want to do
 this.

 private@reef for private PMC discussions
 dev@reef for technical discussions
 commits@reef notification about commits
 issues@reef jira notifications

 -Jake



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 
  I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
  scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
  applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
  The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put
 this
  on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
 
  I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
 
  -Gon
 
  --
  Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
  ===
 
  # REEFProposal - Incubator
 
 
  # Abstract
 
  REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
  computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
  on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 
  # Proposal
 
  REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
  fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
  models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
  resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
  capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
  those efficiently.
 
  Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
  value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
  SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
  Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
 
 
  # Background
 
  The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
  emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
  stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
  cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
  applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
  - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
  fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
  layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
  challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
  and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
 
  REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
  task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
  sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
  caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
  frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
  operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
  iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
  MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
 
 
  # Rationale
 
  Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
  applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
 Foundation
  is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
 
 
  # Current Status
 
  REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
  National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
  License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
  github.com.
 
 
  # Meritocracy
 
  We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
  meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
  significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
 
 
  # Community
 
  REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
  Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
  collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
  contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
  attract developers who are interested in creating common building
  blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
  applications.
 
 
  # Core Developers
 
  Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
  UW and Seoul National University.
 
 
  # Alignment
 
  REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
  on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
  uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.
 
 
 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-04 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi!

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
 applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
 is the perfect home for hosting REEF.

[ snip...snip...snip ]

 ## Relationships with Other Apache Products

Really appreciated the detailed review of potential relationships,
but was surprised not to see Apache Helix on the list of related
projects.

Given the exec summary of the project -- there must be some
relationship. Or am I reading it incorrectly?

Thanks,
Roman.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org



Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-04 Thread Jake Farrell
Would suggest you use the following format for the mailing lists (you have
the older format listed) and also split the dev and commits. Also a lot of
new projects have been also splitting out the jira issues from dev to cut
down on noise on the dev list, would add issues@reef if you want to do
this.

private@reef for private PMC discussions
dev@reef for technical discussions
commits@reef notification about commits
issues@reef jira notifications

-Jake



On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
 scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
 applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.

 The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put this
 on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.

 I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!

 -Gon

 --
 Byung-Gon Chun


 ===

 # REEFProposal - Incubator


 # Abstract

 REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
 computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
 on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.


 # Proposal

 REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
 fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
 models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
 resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
 capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
 those efficiently.

 Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
 value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
 SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
 Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.


 # Background

 The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
 emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
 stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
 cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
 applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
 - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
 fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
 layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
 challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
 and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).

 REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
 task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
 sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
 caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
 frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
 operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
 iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
 MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.


 # Rationale

 Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
 applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
 is the perfect home for hosting REEF.


 # Current Status

 REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
 National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
 License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
 github.com.


 # Meritocracy

 We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
 meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
 significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.


 # Community

 REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
 Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
 collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
 contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
 attract developers who are interested in creating common building
 blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
 applications.


 # Core Developers

 Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
 UW and Seoul National University.


 # Alignment

 REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
 on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
 uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.


 # Known Risks
 ## Orphaned Products

 The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
 are built on REEF. The core REEF developers continue to work on REEF
 at Microsoft, UCLA, and Seoul National University. The REEF project is
 gaining interest from other institutions to be used as their
 infrastructure.

 ## Inexperience with Open Source

 Several core developers have experience with open source development.
 REEF committers will be guided by the mentors with strong Apache 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-03 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
John,

Thank you for the feedback and the offer to help!

On the mentors, I think that four mentors (including Chris Douglas) can
cover REEF at this point.

Thanks!
-Gon

---
Byung-Gon Chun




On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Byung-Gon

 It looks like a good proposal.  There are some minor edit I'd recommend
 you'd do:

 - Use the same github URL consistently.
 - I just fixed the section of the proposal guide to include how to
 reference a git repository.  This should help you and future proposed
 podlings get things going better.

 If you like - you already have 3 mentors, I'd be willing to step up and
 help mentor REEF as well.

 John



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 
  I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
  scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
  applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
  The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put
 this
  on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
 
  I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
 
  -Gon
 
  --
  Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
  ===
 
  # REEFProposal - Incubator
 
 
  # Abstract
 
  REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
  computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
  on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 
  # Proposal
 
  REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
  fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
  models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
  resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
  capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
  those efficiently.
 
  Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
  value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
  SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
  Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
 
 
  # Background
 
  The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
  emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
  stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
  cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
  applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
  - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
  fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
  layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
  challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
  and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
 
  REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
  task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
  sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
  caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
  frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
  operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
  iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
  MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
 
 
  # Rationale
 
  Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
  applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
 Foundation
  is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
 
 
  # Current Status
 
  REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
  National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
  License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
  github.com.
 
 
  # Meritocracy
 
  We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
  meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
  significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
 
 
  # Community
 
  REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
  Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
  collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
  contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
  attract developers who are interested in creating common building
  blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
  applications.
 
 
  # Core Developers
 
  Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
  UW and Seoul National University.
 
 
  # Alignment
 
  REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
  on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
  uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.
 
 
  # Known Risks
  ## Orphaned Products
 
  The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
  are built on REEF. The core REEF 

RE: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-03 Thread Ross Gardler
I have no objection to additional mentors. Please sign up 

Sent from my phone - please forgive brevity and typos 

-Original Message-
From: Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎8/‎3/‎2014 0:43
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

John,

Thank you for the feedback and the offer to help!

On the mentors, I think that four mentors (including Chris Douglas) can
cover REEF at this point.

Thanks!
-Gon

---
Byung-Gon Chun




On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Byung-Gon

 It looks like a good proposal.  There are some minor edit I'd recommend
 you'd do:

 - Use the same github URL consistently.
 - I just fixed the section of the proposal guide to include how to
 reference a git repository.  This should help you and future proposed
 podlings get things going better.

 If you like - you already have 3 mentors, I'd be willing to step up and
 help mentor REEF as well.

 John



 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 
  I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
  scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
  applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
  The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put
 this
  on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
 
  I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
 
  -Gon
 
  --
  Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
  ===
 
  # REEFProposal - Incubator
 
 
  # Abstract
 
  REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
  computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
  on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 
  # Proposal
 
  REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
  fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
  models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
  resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
  capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
  those efficiently.
 
  Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
  value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
  SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
  Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
 
 
  # Background
 
  The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
  emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
  stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
  cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
  applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
  - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
  fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
  layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
  challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
  and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
 
  REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
  task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
  sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
  caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
  frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
  operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
  iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
  MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
 
 
  # Rationale
 
  Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
  applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software
 Foundation
  is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
 
 
  # Current Status
 
  REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
  National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
  License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
  github.com.
 
 
  # Meritocracy
 
  We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
  meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
  significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
 
 
  # Community
 
  REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
  Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
  collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
  contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
  attract developers who are interested in creating common building
  blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
  applications.
 
 
  # Core Developers
 
  Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
  UW and Seoul National University.
 
 
  # Alignment
 
  REEF depends

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-02 Thread John D. Ament
Byung-Gon

It looks like a good proposal.  There are some minor edit I'd recommend
you'd do:

- Use the same github URL consistently.
- I just fixed the section of the proposal guide to include how to
reference a git repository.  This should help you and future proposed
podlings get things going better.

If you like - you already have 3 mentors, I'd be willing to step up and
help mentor REEF as well.

John



On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
 scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
 applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.

 The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put this
 on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.

 I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!

 -Gon

 --
 Byung-Gon Chun


 ===

 # REEFProposal - Incubator


 # Abstract

 REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
 computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
 on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.


 # Proposal

 REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
 fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
 models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
 resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
 capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
 those efficiently.

 Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
 value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
 SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
 Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.


 # Background

 The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
 emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
 stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
 cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
 applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
 - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
 fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
 layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
 challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
 and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).

 REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
 task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
 sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
 caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
 frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
 operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
 iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
 MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.


 # Rationale

 Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
 applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
 is the perfect home for hosting REEF.


 # Current Status

 REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
 National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
 License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
 github.com.


 # Meritocracy

 We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
 meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
 significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.


 # Community

 REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
 Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
 collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
 contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
 attract developers who are interested in creating common building
 blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
 applications.


 # Core Developers

 Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
 UW and Seoul National University.


 # Alignment

 REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
 on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
 uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.


 # Known Risks
 ## Orphaned Products

 The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
 are built on REEF. The core REEF developers continue to work on REEF
 at Microsoft, UCLA, and Seoul National University. The REEF project is
 gaining interest from other institutions to be used as their
 infrastructure.

 ## Inexperience with Open Source

 Several core developers have experience with open source development.
 REEF committers will be guided by the mentors with strong Apache open
 source project backgrounds.

 ## 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-01 Thread rgardler
I added the proposal to the Wiki at 
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReefProposal






Sent from Windows Mail





From: bgc...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎1‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎14‎ ‎AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org





Hi everyone,

I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.

The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put this
on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.

I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!

-Gon

--
Byung-Gon Chun


===

# REEFProposal - Incubator


# Abstract

REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.


# Proposal

REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
those efficiently.

Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.


# Background

The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
- a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).

REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.


# Rationale

Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
is the perfect home for hosting REEF.


# Current Status

REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
github.com.


# Meritocracy

We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.


# Community

REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
attract developers who are interested in creating common building
blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
applications.


# Core Developers

Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
UW and Seoul National University.


# Alignment

REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.


# Known Risks
## Orphaned Products

The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
are built on REEF. The core REEF developers continue to work on REEF
at Microsoft, UCLA, and Seoul National University. The REEF project is
gaining interest from other institutions to be used as their
infrastructure.

## Inexperience with Open Source

Several core developers have experience with open source development.
REEF committers will be guided by the mentors with strong Apache open
source project backgrounds.

## Homogeneous Developers

The initial committers include developers from several institutions
including Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA, and Seoul National
University.

## Reliance on Salaried Developers

Developers from Microsoft are paid to work on REEF. Since the work is
used internally at Microsoft, Microsoft will keep supporting the
developers 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-01 Thread Byung-Gon Chun
Thank you!

---
Byung-Gon Chun

Sent from my phone

2014. 8. 2. 오전 11:08 rgard...@opendirective.com 작성:

 I added the proposal to the Wiki at 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReefProposal
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from Windows Mail
 
 
 
 
 
 From: bgc...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎1‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎14‎ ‎AM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
 scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
 applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put this
 on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.
 
 I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
 
 -Gon
 
 --
 Byung-Gon Chun
 
 
 ===
 
 # REEFProposal - Incubator
 
 
 # Abstract
 
 REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
 computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
 on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.
 
 
 # Proposal
 
 REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
 fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
 models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
 resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
 capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
 those efficiently.
 
 Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
 value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
 SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
 Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.
 
 
 # Background
 
 The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
 emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
 stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
 cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
 applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
 - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
 fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
 layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
 challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
 and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).
 
 REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
 task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
 sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
 caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
 frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
 operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
 iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
 MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.
 
 
 # Rationale
 
 Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
 applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
 is the perfect home for hosting REEF.
 
 
 # Current Status
 
 REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
 National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
 License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
 github.com.
 
 
 # Meritocracy
 
 We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
 meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
 significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.
 
 
 # Community
 
 REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
 Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
 collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
 contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
 attract developers who are interested in creating common building
 blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
 applications.
 
 
 # Core Developers
 
 Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
 UW and Seoul National University.
 
 
 # Alignment
 
 REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
 on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
 uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.
 
 
 # Known Risks
 ## Orphaned Products
 
 The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
 are built on REEF. The core REEF developers continue to work on REEF
 at Microsoft, UCLA, and Seoul National University. The REEF project is
 gaining interest from other institutions to be used as their
 infrastructure.
 
 ## Inexperience with Open Source
 
 Several core developers have experience with open source development.
 REEF committers will be guided by the mentors with strong Apache open
 source project backgrounds.
 
 ## Homogeneous Developers
 
 The initial committers include developers from several institutions
 

Re: [PROPOSAL] REEF for the Apache Incubator

2014-08-01 Thread Arun Murthy
REEF looks great! Look fwd to see it grow in the ASF.

Welcome!

thanks,
Arun



 On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Byung-Gon Chun bgc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose REEF to be an Apache Incubator project. REEF is a
 scale-out computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data
 applications on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.

 The proposal is included in plain text below. I would also like to put this
 on wiki but I don't have privileges to create wiki pages.

 I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!

 -Gon

 --
 Byung-Gon Chun


 ===

 # REEFProposal - Incubator


 # Abstract

 REEF (Retainable Evaluator Execution Framework) is a scale-out
 computing fabric that eases the development of Big Data applications
 on top of resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos.


 # Proposal

 REEF is a Big Data system that makes it easy to implement scalable,
 fault-tolerant runtime environments for a range of data processing
 models (e.g., graph processing and machine learning) on top of
 resource managers such as Apache YARN and Mesos. REEF provides
 capabilities to run multiple heterogeneous frameworks and workflows of
 those efficiently.

 Additionally, REEF contains two libraries that are of independent
 value: Wake is an event-based-programming framework inspired by Rx and
 SEDA.  Tang is a dependency injection framework inspired by Google
 Guice, but designed specifically for configuring distributed systems.


 # Background

 The resource management layer such as Apache YARN and Mesos has
 emerged as a critical layer in the new scale-out data processing
 stack; resource managers assume the responsibility of multiplexing a
 cluster of shared-nothing machines across heterogeneous
 applications. They operate behind an interface for leasing containers
 - a slice of a machine’s resources - to computations in an elastic
 fashion. However, building data processing frameworks directly on this
 layer comes at a high cost: each framework must tackle the same
 challenges (e.g., fault-tolerance, task scheduling and coordination)
 and reimplement common mechanisms (e.g., caching, bulk transfers).

 REEF provides a reusable control-plane for scheduling and coordinating
 task-level work on cluster resource managers. The REEF design enables
 sophisticated optimizations, such as container re-use and data
 caching, and facilitates workflows that span multiple
 frameworks. Examples include pipelining data between different
 operators in a relational system, retaining state across iterations in
 iterative or recursive data flow, and passing the result of a
 MapReduce job to a Machine Learning computation.


 # Rationale

 Since REEF is a library that makes it easy to write distributed
 applications on top of Apache YARN or Mesos, the Apache Software Foundation
 is the perfect home for hosting REEF.


 # Current Status

 REEF has been developed mostly by Microsoft, UCLA and the Seoul
 National University.  The REEF codebase is open-sourced under Apache
 License 2.0 and is currently hosted in a public repository at
 github.com.


 # Meritocracy

 We plan to build a strong open community by following the Apache
 meritocracy principles. We will work with those who contribute
 significantly to the project and invite them to be its committers.


 # Community

 REEF is currently being used internally at Microsoft.  Also, SK
 Telecom builds their data analytics infrastructure on top of REEF in
 collaboration with Seoul National University.  We hope to extend our
 contributor base by becoming an Apache incubator project. REEF will
 attract developers who are interested in creating common building
 blocks for simplifying the development of large-scale big data
 applications.


 # Core Developers

 Core developers are engineers from Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA,
 UW and Seoul National University.


 # Alignment

 REEF depends on many Apache projects and dependencies. REEF is built
 on resource managers such as Apache YARN and Apache Mesos. REEF also
 uses HDFS as a distributed storage layer.


 # Known Risks
 ## Orphaned Products

 The risk of REEF being orphaned is small because Microsoft products
 are built on REEF. The core REEF developers continue to work on REEF
 at Microsoft, UCLA, and Seoul National University. The REEF project is
 gaining interest from other institutions to be used as their
 infrastructure.

 ## Inexperience with Open Source

 Several core developers have experience with open source development.
 REEF committers will be guided by the mentors with strong Apache open
 source project backgrounds.

 ## Homogeneous Developers

 The initial committers include developers from several institutions
 including Microsoft, Purestorage, UCB, UCLA, and Seoul National
 University.

 ## Reliance on Salaried Developers

 Developers from Microsoft are paid to work on REEF. Since the work is
 used internally at Microsoft, Microsoft will keep supporting