Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
Will Glass-Husain wrote: Specifically, if the vendors are Jakarta committers, and they find the pages useful, we should consider keeping it. Isn't Multitask Dion Gillhard for instance? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
What we did with Lucene was to move the hard-coded committer maintained list of projects and products that use Lucene to the wiki. Let the community self-maintain this sort of thing. +1 to moving it to the Jakarta wiki. Erik On Feb 7, 2006, at 8:17 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: As per the previous email, I'd like to raise the question of killing the vendor support page. With Tomcat moving to TLP, there's even less Jakarta support here than before. Mainly it's Ant, Struts, Log4j, Tomcat and HTTP Server. Alternatively, we could attempt to make it a Java support page for Apache products, or even talk to someone - probably the board, maybe prc - about having an Apache version of this. However, I think that doing it ourselves is probably outside our scope and I suspect there won't be a huge amount of interest Apache-wide to having such a database of vendors. Any thoughts? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT] Tapestry TLP
Cool. Good luck as a TLP and hopefully you set an example for other projects. +1 Best regards Henning On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:43 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Below is the result of the recent Tapestry committers vote to move Tapestry to an Apache top level project. Pending the approval of the Jakarta PMC, we'll be submitting the request to the Apache board. === Establish the Apache Tapestry Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to the implementation of the Tapestry Web Application Framework, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Tapestry PMC, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Tapestry PMC be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to creation and maintenance of open-source software and documentation related to the Tapestry Web Application Framework based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Tapestry be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Tapestry PMC, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Tapestry PMC; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Tapestry PMC: * Howard M. Lewis Ship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Geoffrey Longman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Kent Tong (freemant2000 at yahoo dot com) * David Solis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Jesse Kuhnert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Paul Ferraro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Richard Lewis-Shell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Mind Bridge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Tsvetelin Saykov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Howard Lewis Ship be appointed to the office of Vice President, Tapestry, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Tapestry PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Tapestry Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Tapestry PMC be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta PMC Tapestry subproject; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Jakarta Tapestry sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged. === Binding votes: Howard M. Lewis Ship: +1 Jesse Kuhnert: +1 Paul Ferraro: +1 Geoff Longman: +1 Richard Lewis-Shell: +1 David Solis: +1 Kent Tong: +1 Non-binding votes: Kevin Menard: +1 Danny Angus: +1 Massimo Lusetti: +1 Filip S. Adamsen: +1 Andreas Andreou: +1 -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant Creator, Jakarta Tapestry Creator, Jakarta HiveMind Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support and project work. http://howardlewisship.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
+1 if the vendors wanna be on our Wiki, i say we let 'em do it. On 2/8/06, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we did with Lucene was to move the hard-coded committer maintained list of projects and products that use Lucene to the wiki. Let the community self-maintain this sort of thing. +1 to moving it to the Jakarta wiki. Erik On Feb 7, 2006, at 8:17 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: As per the previous email, I'd like to raise the question of killing the vendor support page. With Tomcat moving to TLP, there's even less Jakarta support here than before. Mainly it's Ant, Struts, Log4j, Tomcat and HTTP Server. Alternatively, we could attempt to make it a Java support page for Apache products, or even talk to someone - probably the board, maybe prc - about having an Apache version of this. However, I think that doing it ourselves is probably outside our scope and I suspect there won't be a huge amount of interest Apache-wide to having such a database of vendors. Any thoughts? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
I'd be ok with a Wiki page. Ideally with a link from the Jakarta home page. We just have to keep an eye on it to make sure it stays appropriate. We've moved the Powered By Velocity page to the Wiki-- it gets updated regularly by third parties -- and there have been no problems. WILL - Original Message - From: Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page +1 if the vendors wanna be on our Wiki, i say we let 'em do it. On 2/8/06, Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we did with Lucene was to move the hard-coded committer maintained list of projects and products that use Lucene to the wiki. Let the community self-maintain this sort of thing. +1 to moving it to the Jakarta wiki. Erik On Feb 7, 2006, at 8:17 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: As per the previous email, I'd like to raise the question of killing the vendor support page. With Tomcat moving to TLP, there's even less Jakarta support here than before. Mainly it's Ant, Struts, Log4j, Tomcat and HTTP Server. Alternatively, we could attempt to make it a Java support page for Apache products, or even talk to someone - probably the board, maybe prc - about having an Apache version of this. However, I think that doing it ourselves is probably outside our scope and I suspect there won't be a huge amount of interest Apache-wide to having such a database of vendors. Any thoughts? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
+1 (as one of the vendors) for moving to the Wiki with a link from the Jakarta home page as Will suggested, rather than killing it altogether. We integrate Jakarta (along with many of the other Apache projects) into just about everything we build. We also recommend these projects to our clients all the time. Tom Quoting Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be ok with a Wiki page. Ideally with a link from the Jakarta home page. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
Do we remove the people who list support for non-Jakarta products, or is our vendor wiki page for all of the ASF? Hen On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Tom Evans wrote: +1 (as one of the vendors) for moving to the Wiki with a link from the Jakarta home page as Will suggested, rather than killing it altogether. We integrate Jakarta (along with many of the other Apache projects) into just about everything we build. We also recommend these projects to our clients all the time. Tom Quoting Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be ok with a Wiki page. Ideally with a link from the Jakarta home page. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
Henri- My suggestions is to frame this page as primarily Jakarta-support related, but allow people to list support for any Apache or Java product.As long as the page doesn't look to spam-like there's really not a downside. If tomcat.apache.org puts up a similar page, we could revise this. question to Tom-- do actually get business from customers who go to this page? Just wondering. WILL - Original Message - From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page Do we remove the people who list support for non-Jakarta products, or is our vendor wiki page for all of the ASF? Hen On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Tom Evans wrote: +1 (as one of the vendors) for moving to the Wiki with a link from the Jakarta home page as Will suggested, rather than killing it altogether. We integrate Jakarta (along with many of the other Apache projects) into just about everything we build. We also recommend these projects to our clients all the time. Tom Quoting Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be ok with a Wiki page. Ideally with a link from the Jakarta home page. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jakarta struts binary
I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta struts binary
On 2/8/06, John Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? Struts is no longer part of Jakarta, so it's now Apache Struts. If you're just starting to learn Struts, you'll probably want to start with our most recent GA release, which is Struts 1.2.8. You can find that on the Struts downloads page, here: http://struts.apache.org/downloads.html For documentation, you'll want the corresponding release web site, here: http://struts.apache.org//struts-doc-1.2.8/index.html Hope that helps. -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta struts binary
Struts is no longer under the jakarta umbrella. you'll find what you need at http://struts.apache.org FYI, it's usually quicker to try asking Google about such things first. :) http://www.google.com/search?q=struts oh, and since java is platform and operating system independent, there is only one binary for all, rather than being windows or mac or *nix specific. On 2/8/06, John Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta struts binary
Try it via http://struts.apache.org.. Mvgr, Martin John Armstrong wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta struts binary
Thx Martin van den BemtTo: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: Subject: Re: jakarta struts binary 02/08/2006 02:30 PM Please respond to Jakarta General List Try it via http://struts.apache.org.. Mvgr, Martin John Armstrong wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta struts binary
Thx Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org cc: Subject: Re: jakarta struts binary 02/08/2006 02:28 PM Please respond to Jakarta General List Struts is no longer under the jakarta umbrella. you'll find what you need at http://struts.apache.org FYI, it's usually quicker to try asking Google about such things first. :) http://www.google.com/search?q=struts oh, and since java is platform and operating system independent, there is only one binary for all, rather than being windows or mac or *nix specific. On 2/8/06, John Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts under Ex-Jakarta, and when I go there, there's numerous downloads besides Jakarta Struts Binary. How can I get the Jakarta Struts binary for Windows? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page
Hi Will, Arguably, we don't land many new clients from a web page referral alone. However, we have been able to build new client relationships based on inquiries that originated with Jakarta and other OSS projects we recommend and support. Often we simply provide some pro bono coaching via telephone where we direct IT folks back to the project(s) and/or help them engage with the community. Other times these relationships lead to a more traditional systems integration project (via RFP, etc.). We think this type of role is mutually beneficial for both Jakarta and SI vendors like Tachometry. On the other hand, we also want to be good team players, so I won't whine (too much) about killing the vendor page. :-) Tom Will Glass-Husain wrote: question to Tom-- do actually get business from customers who go to this page? Just wondering. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
