RE: Jakarta Support provider
Hi, We can't impose a requirement on Covalent to tame down their site, can we? ;) But for our vendor page, it makes sense, especially as we can't show any form of preference. Just like it makes sense to add them to the page in the first place ;) For Tomcat, we like to use the full Apache Jakarta Tomcat name even though it's more verbose. We went through a discussion on this matter recently, having seen dissatisfaction in the ranks that some high-profile places (java.sun.com, JBoss.com) didn't always make it clear who owns Tomcat. (Full disclosure on this post: I consult for Covalent on a limited basis) Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com -Original Message- From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:33 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Support provider Are you going to tame down your website also? -dain On Dec 1, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Mark Brewer wrote: OK. Clearly we would tame it down if you'd like. That's our marketing blurb from our website. Let us know. Thanks - Mark -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:50 PM To: Jakarta General List Cc: Mark Brewer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jakarta Support provider I don't know how much vetting we do, but despite the fact that this is a vendor page, I believe that a lot of people would complain about the phrase [Covalent is] the only source of full commercial support for Apache Tomcat. Now that the ASF has established the PRC, perhaps it is time we turned control over such vendor pages to the PRC to make sure that a message consistent with the ASF's neutrality is preserved. --- Noel -Original Message- From: Mark Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 19:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta Support provider To whom it concerns, Covalent Technologies would like to be added to Developer Support section of this page on the Jakarta site: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/vendors.html Below is the info you've requested. Website: www.covalent.net http://www.covalent.net Description: Covalent is the leader in products and services for Apache Tomcat, the world's leading Web server, and the only source of full commercial support for Apache Tomcat. Covalent has assembled the deepest talent pool of Apache experts in the industry. Through Covalent's products and services, Apache/Tomcat users receive all the flexibility and benefits of open source, with the support and reliability of a commercial enterprise fully dedicated to those open source technologies. Location: Worldwide Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let us know if there is anything further you require. Thanks, Mark Brewer 925.974.8800 x5 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail list page
Hi, Thanks -- the consistency and reliance on an internal resource rather than an external one are good things. Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com -Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:58 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Mail list page Changes made. All point to Eyebrowse now, and I've reduced the info on promoted projects prior to creating a smaller section on What if you can't find the mail list you want? which would list all promoted components. Hen On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Henri Yandell wrote: Gets my vote. Eye-browse has seemed a lot better recently. Hen On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Shinobu Kawai wrote: Hi Henri, When are we going to remove projects which have been promoted from Jakarta, from the mail list page? Anyone mind if I do it now? While it's on the topic, are there any plans to change the archive links to eyebrowse instead of mail-archive.com? At least for velocity-user, you can't view messages just a couple of whiles ago. :( Best regards, -- Shinobu Kawai -- Shinobu Kawai [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta Support provider
Hi, Cool. These things are usually misunderstandings between marketing depts eager to look good and our organisation's legal needs etc. Are you able to talk privately with someone there at all? Yeah, I can. They're very accommodating, understanding, and enthusiastic about the ASF, its processes, and its people. I don't think there'll be any problem... Yoav This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mail list page
Hola, The watchdog-dev mail list appears to be gone (which makes sense). Is there a list left for Watchdog, should its entry direct people to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Watchdog-dev is gone. Watchdog-user is still around, but with no moderation and minimal to no activity. It's time to direct people to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think, following our discussion along these lines from about six months ago (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-generalm=108659921622873w=2). If anything, Watchdog is more dead now than it was six months ago, because its only user at that time (Tomcat) is no longer a user. And I'd like to not have to monitor watchdog-user anymore, although if Danny wants to stay no top of it of course he's welcome to ;) Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat automatically serializes session on shutdown and startup on Unix
Hi, This is the wrong list: try again on tomcat-user. Tomcat's startup/shutdown sequences are the same on windows and HP-UX if you're running from the command line (which is the only option on unix). If you're running as a Windows Service, it's a bit different, but serialization configuration is the same. Please don't reply to the above here: do so on tomcat-user, where others can help you as well. Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com -Original Message- From: Seow, Pek Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Tomcat automatically serializes session on shutdown and startup on Unix Hi there, I am running in to known java.io.NotSerializableException issue when Tomcat (4.1.27) shutdown or startup. The strange thing is that I do not get this error when running the application on Tomcat/Windows but seem to be encountering the problem in Tomcat/HP-UX 11i. Does the Tomcat shutdown or startup differently in Windows vs. Unix? Is the Standard Manager enabled by default? To workaround that, I basically have to set the Manager component to have pathname=null and saveOnRestart=false in server.xml. Could anyone explain the reason I am seeing two different behaviours? LOG: 2004-11-25 12:49:08 StandardManager[/dcm] IOException while loading persisted sessions: java.io.WriteAbortedEx ception: writing aborted; java.io.NotSerializableException: com.documentum.web.form.FormHistory java.io.WriteAbortedException: writing aborted; java.io.NotSerializableException: com.documentum.web.form.Form History at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1278) at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:324) at java.util.HashMap.readObject(HashMap.java:986) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.ja va:3 9 ) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccesso rImp l .java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) at java.io.ObjectStreamClass.invokeReadObject(ObjectStreamClass.java:824) at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readSerialData(ObjectInputStream.java:1746) at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readOrdinaryObject(ObjectInputStream.java:164 6) at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1274) at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:324) at org.apache.catalina.session.StandardSession.readObject(StandardSession. java : 1369) at org.apache.catalina.session.StandardSession.readObjectData(StandardSess ion. j ava:864) at org.apache.catalina.session.StandardManager.load(StandardManager.java:4 40) at org.apache.catalina.session.StandardManager.start(StandardManager.java: 655) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:357 1) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.j ava: 8 21) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:807) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:579) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostDeployer.install(StandardHostDeplo yer. j ava:307) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.install(StandardHost.java:772) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectories(HostConfig.jav a:55 9 ) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:401) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.start(HostConfig.java:718) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(HostConfig.java:3 58) at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(LifecycleS uppo r t.java:166) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1196) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:738) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1188) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:347) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:497 ) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2190) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
RE: Jakarta - A study in self defeating projects
Hi, simple out of box ). As a solution - I started on an Ant rpm task that would just create the rpm file from the distribution files, without using a .spec and all the special steps ( just like the windows installer does ). That sounds like a good approach. If you or someone else would do this after I post the other distros for a given release, we'd be all set. You wouldn't have to do it on a Windows computer etc. Yoav This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN] Apache Jakarta Tomcat 5.5.3 now Beta
The Apache Jakarta Tomcat team is proud to announce that after prolonged testing internally and externally, the 5.5.3 release is now labeled a Beta release. That means it's more stable and mature than previous Alpha releases on the Tomcat 5.5 branch, and we encourage more users to download and test it. Please note that it is not yet a stable release. We expect that with the wider testing given betas, additional issues will be discovered. These will be addressed in the coming 5.5 builds and hopefully we will have a stable release soon. The changelog, release notes, download locations, and other documentation is the same as for the original 5.5.3 release announcement: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/news-2004-2ndHalf.html#20041006.1 Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta - A study in self defeating projects
Hi, The folks at JPackage.org already track several Jakarta projects and issue RPMs for them: for example, they've been doing this with Tomcat for a long time. We appreciate their work. We've spoken on the tomcat-dev list about issuing our own RPMs, and I think it was Costin (Manolache) who was very interested and knowledgable in this area, so he might be a good person to ask if you're interested in more Jakarta/RPM work. I know the above is off-topic for this thread, but since the thread is dying anyways (the OP was a classic I'll send a clueless rant and disappear type), and this is relevant (and of increasing concern as various linux flavors gain popularity not just in our community, but on our users' desktops). Yoav -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:42 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Jakarta - A study in self defeating projects Henri Gomez wrote: If some people found hard to install and glue jakarta software (not products) together they should consider JPackage.org ready to use RPMS. This Linux project make a cross distribution coherent Java distribution, which is now used by Mandrake, Suse and Redhat. If you can think of some way of validating the contents of the RPMs (e.g., if they were part of the release testing process and signed by an ASF release manager), maybe we could do something with jpackage.org. Or add the RPMs to our dist/ tree. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you.
RE: CVS-SVN Was: SVN of ECS
Hi,
Having lurked on this discussion so far, I have one question at this
point. I've seen /jakarta/tomcat referenced. If you look at CVS,
there's no such thing. Instead, there are several CVS modules for
tomcat: jakarta-tomcat-5, jakarta-tomcat-4, jakarta-tomcat-catalina,
jakarta-tomcat-connectors, jakarta-tomcat-jasper,
jakarta-servletapi-5(*), etc. Under SVN, would these become
/jakarta/tomcat/catalina or /jakarta/tomcat-catalina ?
(*) = The Servlet API could be its own project, e.g.
/jakarta/servlet-api, and does not have to be under the Tomcat tree.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
-Original Message-
From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:18 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: CVS-SVN Was: SVN of ECS
Hi,
ok. So this means, once we get e.g. /jakarta/turbine, we could
set the repository structure below it just as we see it fit?
We (Turbine) currently have (for history reasons) a lot of CVS
repositories and consolidating them is a real pet peeve for me. ;-)
Regards
Henning
On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 18:47, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
If I'm not wrong (and I could be) we should just have
/jakarta/tomcat
/jakarta/velocity
/jakarta/
Correct. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/sub/{ttb}. I
suggest
that tags be used instead of releases, since (a) it is a known
convention,
and (b) you may have tags other than releases.
I'd -1 that. Every single commit to a Jakarta project would
increase the global revision number.
Ignore it. It is not a per-project revision indictor, and there is
no
intent to have more than one public SVN repository for the ASF.
Every
commit to every ASF project will increase the GBN.
SVN repositories are not cheap to setup and maintain when you take
into
account other behind-the-scenes issues, including access control,
hooks,
backup, et cetera. It is quite easy to do access control with a
single
Subversion repository. And it is trivial to handle project promotion
or
migration since we simply do an `svn move` operation.
In any event, this isn't a Jakarta issue. If you want to debate the
merits,
that would be on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Noel
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[ANN] Apache Jakarta Tomcat 5.5.2-alpha Released
The Apache Jakarta Tomcat team is proud to announce the immediate availability of Tomcat 5.5.2-alpha. This build of the new 5.5 branch addresses several minor issues raised by early testers on the mailing list, and contains other fixes to ensure all the Tomcat unit tests pass as they did in the 5.0 branch. While this build is tentatively rated as alpha a formal stability vote will take place next week on the tomcat-dev mailing list. Release notes: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/RELEASE-NOTES Please refer to the change log for the list of changes: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/changelog.html Downloads: Binaries: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi Sources: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi The Apache Jakarta Tomcat Team This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Watchdog] Notice: Tomcat no longer uses Watchdog
Hi, This is just an FYI, no action required. With the Tomcat 5.5 branch, Tomcat no longer uses Watchdog. We rely on Tomcat's internal tester and the official Sun TCKs, which are run for every Tomcat release. The Tomcat dependency on Watchdog was a reason for keeping Watchdog around. The other reasons for keeping Watchdog around but in a dormant state are still valid, so I'm not arguing anything should be changed. I just wanted to let everyone know for the record that the Tomcat-Watchdog dependency doesn't exist anymore. Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vendor support change
Hi, Done, site updated. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Jose Gonzalez Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:21 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Vendor support change Hello, We had to change our name due to trade mark issues, Could you please post the changes? You may find them attached to the current mail. Thanks in advance Dirk Verbeeck wrote: Patch applied, site updated. Cheers Dirk Jose González Gómez wrote: Hello, Could you please include my company in the list provided in the Third-Party Support for Jakarta Products page? I include the patch file for such a change. I'm not subscribed to this list, so please could you email me directly in case of any problem? Thanks in advance, -- Jose González Gómez Software Architect +34 635 575 994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opentechnet.com This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FYI: Author tags
Hi, I'm sure Ceki will appreciate this... ;) Sigh... And it's only Monday ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:39 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: FYI: Author tags Recently, a new twist on @author tags came up, from a direction I never would have expected. It seems that the JDK 1.5 compiler whines when you have non-ISO-8859-1 characters in Javadoc comments in your source files. Someone was kind enough to run a compile of a bunch of open source projects with 1.5, to help identify projects that have such sources. It turns out that commons-beanutils has a few such occurrences -- because of non-ASCII characters in the authors's names in the @author tags. Guess we need to tell such people to change their names if they want to be an @author :-). Craig McClanahan On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:48:33 -0400 (EDT), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many will remember the discussion on whether the ASF should discourage, ban or allow @author tags. I'm not sure that the end result was reported out to the whole community, so going ahead and doing so now. Apologies if a repeat. The boards statement (via Sam) is that: Sam: The choice of @authors or not is a PMC level decision. Many do think that @author tags are not useful, but we're free to do what we want. My opinion: If we ever get subprojects where things are getting childish over @author tags and recognition for fixing newlines or removing unused imports (made up examples), then we should just take the easy way out on that subproject and remove the @author tags. Otherwise, we continue as normal. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws
Hi, Suggested new bylaws are at: http://www.osjava.org/~hen/jakarta/management.html The aim is to identify the current reality, rather than plan out a new set of bylaws. I believe I've responded to the past week of comments, sometimes by dropping things from the text as they require discussion (ie: active/inactive projects). Voting rules are that we need at least 3 +1 _PMC votes_, and a 3/4 majority of +1's to -1's. I'll announce results next Tuesday. === [ X ] +1 - let's do it [ ] -1 - not good === Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Updating the PMC bylaws
Hi, It does have 3 committers on the PMC. Whether they are active or not, I'm unsure, might only be 2. It's planned to merge with Regexp and maybe into Commons over time though, so there's definitely a tendency towards larger oversight. Something like ECS is more likely to be a problem I think. It's not actually an active community (as far as I can tell) so pretty unlikely to have strong oversight. It still has 3 committers on the PMC, they just might not be very active there (or even listening to the list). Yeah, we should consider what to do about dormant projects. We've established we don't want to kill them, and we want to keep the option of project revival. That's good. But those projects won't have 3 active committers. Watchdog and ECS are good examples. (On a side note, for a long time now I've thought ORO and RegExp should merge, and maybe the combined one should further merge with lang. After all, JDK 1.4 which is approaching 2 years old has this regexp functionality). Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where is Cloudscape?
Hi, It should show up at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html within a few weeks. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Kevin A. Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where is Cloudscape? Hm... wanted to check this code out of CVS but can't find it :-/ Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit... I can be patient ;) http://infoworld.com/article/04/08/03/HNclouscape_1.html Kevin -- Please reply using PGP. http://peerfear.org/pubkey.asc NewsMonster - http://www.newsmonster.org/ Kevin A. Burton, Location - San Francisco, CA, Cell - 415.595.9965 AIM/YIM - sfburtonator, Web - http://peerfear.org/ GPG fingerprint: 5FB2 F3E2 760E 70A8 6174 D393 E84D 8D04 99F1 4412 IRC - freenode.net #infoanarchy | #p2p-hackers | #newsmonster - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where is Cloudscape?
Hi, I'm pretty sure it would go through the incubator first, though, wouldn't it? Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Avik Sengupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:41 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Where is Cloudscape? It'll be part of the DB project, AFAIK. And will probably take a while to land in CVS. On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 12:03, Kevin A. Burton wrote: Hm... wanted to check this code out of CVS but can't find it :-/ Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit... I can be patient ;) http://infoworld.com/article/04/08/03/HNclouscape_1.html Kevin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml
Hi, You might just want to start a separate thread as not everyone is watching this one ;) Put karma request in the subject line and the right folks will notice... Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:25 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, Committed patch with your comments. Updated jakarta site. Verified new Daemon links. (Note that mirrors will take a few hours to sync). You can ask for jakarta-site2 karma, you will get it without a problem and no vote is required for existing Jakarta committers. Sounds good: Could I get karma for jakarta-site2? Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml Hi, I have tried to commit a correction to binindex.xml but I have got the following errror message: +++ cvs server: Pre-commit check failed cvs [server aborted]: correct above errors first! cvs commit: saving log message in /tmp/cvs7XO3S6 +++ Could someone commit the changes with the following comments: +++ Oops... After getting a question I have noted I had forgotten to update this file and the user are using a very old ALPHA version of daemon instead the RELEASED one. +++ Cheers Jean-Frederic - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Adding project version to bugzilla
Hi, OK, thank you ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:32 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Adding project version to bugzilla On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, Please remind me what I need to do / whom I need to ask that a new version (e.g. 5.0.26 and 5.0.27 for tomcat) be added to the list in Bugzilla's Version field? Asking here is fine. I've added 5.0.26 and 5.0.27 for Tomcat 5. -- Martin Cooper Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Adding project version to bugzilla
Hi, I'll ask infrastructures. Since I'll be putting out Tomcat releases and some Commons ones for the foreseeable future, I shouldn't have to bother other people ;) Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:53 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Adding project version to bugzilla On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea who the people with access to do this are Martin? Within Jakarta anyway? I'm sure that there are a few more of us who can (me for example). Pier granted karma to me about four years ago. I think most people who've been release managers for a project like Craig or Remy have the right to add versions or maybe even new projects. The only thing I can't do is changing user information IIUC, and that would be required to grant Yoav the right to add new versions himself - which he should have IMHO. Ask infrastructure? Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding project version to bugzilla
Hi, Please remind me what I need to do / whom I need to ask that a new version (e.g. 5.0.26 and 5.0.27 for tomcat) be added to the list in Bugzilla's Version field? Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, Well, Watchdog might be dead as far as development, but we still use it to test tomcat as part of the tomcat release process. So let me discuss with fellow tomcat developers, and please don't start a process for burying watchdog yet. Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:21 AM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead? If watchdog is dead, we should move it to the Graveyard. Noel, you are the incubator guy, any ideas about starting this process - what is involved, any previous threads on the subject. Tim -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 2:12 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead? Yoav, no such mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know the answer to the project status, but I can confirm that there is no such mailing list currently existent. I don't know when it disappeared, other than the fact that it stopped archiving back in Nov 2002, but entire mailing lists structures don't disappear by accident. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, I agree with one Noel, Henri, and Danny have said. For interest's sake, let me explain what's been happening with Watchdog, as I think it's a useful example for other graveyard or end-of-life scenarios. We use Watchdog as part of the tomcat release process. When Ant 1.6 was released and the launcher class split from ant.jar into ant-launcher.jar, the watchdog run in ant 1.6 was broken. It works fine in Ant 1.5 and earlier, but we want to use Ant 1.6 to build tomcat. So the workaround now is a manual process whereby the person building tomcat has to copy ant-launcher.jar into the lib directory of watchdog. A tiny change to the Watchdog build.xml would fix this, and I've submitted a Bugzilla enhancement request with the patch. But there's no one to act on my request, leaving us in a situation where we either use an older ant or do the manual copy (or hack the tomcat build file in an ugly way to accommodate watchdog's build problems). Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 12:01 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead? First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation has to do with dormant projects. It's the opposite. Secondly, I'm not one who favors closing an open source project. Ever. I didn't really agree with closing java.apache.org. Although I do agree with closing that domain, in retrospect, I'd have moved the content to Jakarta. In my view, dormant projects should have their scm resources left in place, and can have their mailing addresses reflected to a communal list, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or community@, although I a separate address might be better). I think you're right, remember that we do need to have someone somewhere answerable to the board and with oversight over any project which has public resources, whether it is active, maintenance only or unsupported end-of-life. To that end a dis-incubator seemed like a good idea around the time the apache incubator was formed. It would have a lot less to do, probably little more than list moderation, but it would give people the comfort feel that someone somewhere would be alerted to potential issues with projects which no longer have or need a community. If enough interest is shown in a retired project it can be re-vitalised by a visit to the incubator.. FWIW I would be happy to volunteer my time for this. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limi! ted. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. *** *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, OK, then let me propose this: - We give Danny Angus and myself karma for Watchdog. There are no active committers to nominate us. - Either one of us will place a notice of dormancy (text TBD) on the front page for Watchdog - I will fix the build script so that Tomcat builds can be automated in this regards We still need to take care of the mailing lists. I see two options: - We revive the watchdog-dev/watchdog-user mailing lists and redirect them somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or - We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on the Watchdog site, and indicate in our notice of dormancy that questions about watchdog should be submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Tomcat TLP is a future possibility, and we may wish to consider the Watchdog status at that time, but that's not the question at this time, and we all have enough to do as it is ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 1:27 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [Watchdog] Dead? we do need to have someone somewhere answerable to the board and with oversight over any project which has public resources, whether it is active, maintenance only or unsupported end-of-life. Yes. But I don't think that we need a separate TLP for it. I would leave the project in the community that last hosted the now dormant project. If enough interest is shown in a retired project it can be re-vitalised by a visit to the incubator. If there is enough interest, it can be revived. There is no need for it to go to the Incubator at all. FWIW I would be happy to volunteer my time for this. Cool. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, We still need to take care of the mailing lists. I see two options: - We revive the watchdog-dev/watchdog-user mailing lists and redirect them somewhere like [EMAIL PROTECTED], or - We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on the Watchdog site, and indicate in our notice of dormancy that questions about watchdog should be submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just monitor them? There's nothing to monitor: the lists are dead. Emails to watchdog-dev-subscribe/unsubscribe come back with an address not found type error. And yet those are the addresses linked on the watchdog site. So we actually have broken and misleading information there ;) Yoav This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, There's nothing to monitor: the lists are dead. Emails to watchdog-dev-subscribe/unsubscribe come back with an address not found type error. And yet those are the addresses linked on the watchdog site. So we actually have broken and misleading information there ;) (!) So why don't we just fix them? The lists were not removed accidentally, so I assume the developers at that time had some rationale. Beyond that, I'm assuming the activity level on these lists would be so low that redirecting them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine. If my assumption is proven wrong we can recreate/revive the lists and update the watchdog web site accordingly. Yoav This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Photoshop for the Apache Logo
Hola, http://www.apache.org/images/ looks like it... If you're looking for a CVS location, I'm not sure and don't feel like searching, but it's probably in there somewhere under apsite maybe. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:43 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Photoshop for the Apache Logo Does anyone know where the (presumably) Photoshop files are for the Apache logo (with the feather)? -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant Creator, Jakarta Tapestry Creator, Jakarta HiveMind http://howardlewisship.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Watchdog] Dead?
Hi, I just tried to subscribe to the watchdog mailing list in order to notify the developers of a bug I submitted against Watchdog. But I got a no such mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED] error response from the mail server. What's the status of Watchdog? Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Struts mailing lists
Hi, I assume the website is about to be updated with this information? I tried to email [EMAIL PROTECTED], but typically, heh, the recipients mail server was down or unreachable ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Send a note to the struts-dev list, they're responsible for updating their own website. Don't rely on the webmaster@ address ;) Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are wiki pages backed up?
Hi, nope. Manually, every now and then. How lame is that, huh? Need to install a cronjob. Forgot about it several times now. Can someone please add an entry to jira? Done: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=INFRA-46. Thanks, Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are wiki pages backed up?
Hi, Are our wiki pages (either old UseMod or new MoinMoin) backed up regularly? Or maybe backed up somewhere like CVS? Is there something we can do if someone maliciously edits a page and removes all content? I apologize if I should know all this, or if this is the wrong list. I did search the various MoinMoin FAQs at wiki.apache.org, migration guide, etc, and saw no mention of backups. But maybe it's such an obvious yes that no one saw the need to document it ;) I just want to confirm. Thanks, Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta embracing the JCP?
Hi, Your English is great, don't let that stop you from expressing your opinions ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Paulo Simao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jakarta embracing the JCP? In my opinion, JCP and ASF should keep working just as they are. JCP has a more conceptual work, defining patterns and standards, while ASF has a more hands on to implement JSRS. It is the biz of JCP define what ASF is to do, while is about ASF know HOW to do it. Sun needs to keep some order in Java comunity, and that´s why JCP exists under her flag. ASF, in contrast is completely free, having no Boss, but ourselves. Naturally, ASF´s process is much ligther in terms of burocracy focusing in real world implementation of some spec defined. (specs are aways specs...hard to define, hard to rollback, better, no rollback, just a deprecated javadoc tag. Have you seen a refactoring in a JSR before? :-) ) things are working this way, and I think they should be kept this way. Sorry if this hurted someone, but my english is not so rich as I wished, to express my ideas. regards, Paulo. From: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Jakarta embracing the JCP? Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:44:32 -0500 How about if Jakarta [or Apache-Java as a whole] embraced the latest JCP process? In what way? Can you be specific? As I understand the JCP, what you are asking makes little sense. We don't have spec leads, nor do we want them. We don't have ownership of a project/specification. Everything here is communal and consensual. That is not true of the JCP. Actually, I would prefer to see the JCP continue to evolve to become more like the ASF. What I'm largely interested in are the reasons why not, as these would be perfect reasons why something like groovy, or ant or httpclient, should not become jsr's. A JSR is a specification. It should have a TCK and an RI, but at heart it is a specification. Some people have talked about proposing the Apache Repository Specification, which I understand Maven will evolve to use, as a JSR. If that happened, I'd prefer to see us run a JCP Expert Group more in line with an ASF project, not run ASF projects like an JCP Expert Group. Geir? Your thoughts? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People's apache.org web pages
Hi, Does anyone else think it's kind of funny that most of our apache.org web pages (http://www.apache.org/~coar/people.html) look like the first homework assignment from a 9th grade Introduction to the Internet class? I think it's hilarious. Something to lighten the mood during these license fallout discussions ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JMS free Impl
Hi, Hi Folks, I have a small piece of code called Esperanto, and I´d like to make a JMS free impl of this. It already delivers Objects in broadcast over some methods, and I think it could become JMS compliant with a small effort. It is small and light to use, and have connectors for the following delivering methods: Memory DashBoard( Using FileSystem) UDP(Multicasting) TCP(Directly, connctionfull). My question is , does ASF already have a JMS impl? I think it could help Geronimo Project. If it does not, anyone here could help me writting a request for that project?. thankz I'm not sure what Geronimo is doing with respect to JMS implementation. But here in Jakarta we have commons-messenger (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/messenger/) which is still in the sandbox. I haven't seen much discussion on this project lately, so maybe it needs to be revived. I'm sure its developers would appreciate some feedback/help/code, and maybe we can make a release and a commons-proper component out of it in short order. There's also a taglib (http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/jmstags-doc/intro.html) that runs on top of Messenger. Personally, for a free JMS impl I've been using OpenJMS (http://openjms.sourceforge.net/) for a long time, in fairly big production systems (multiple messages per second, months and months of uptime without restart), and I love it. It's definitely in active development as well. Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JMS free Impl
Hi, I saw this one too, but it doesn´t have the ASF seal...People in Brasil see ASF as a very serious quality mark. Soon (In the next 6 months) I´m sure I will need a JMS impl, and if it is signed by Apache, it would make my life a lot easier... Please quote a bit of what you're replying too, so we can keep the context of your response ;) You should post a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [Messenger] in the subject line, asking what is the status of Messenger. Take a look at Messenger's code to see if it has everything you're looking for. If not, see how you can merge your code with messenger, maybe? Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JMS free Impl
Hi, Are they the same product Yoav? Messenger is a tool to make client JMS easier[i think], while the original poster [you deleted the author's name *teasing*] seems to have a JMS server. ;) I thought Messenger's Messagelet Engine is a server of sorts? I may have misread this: Messenger also provides a Messagelet Engine which is a JMS based container that can be deployed in any Servlet Engine to process JMS messages via MessageListeners, Message Driven Objects, Servlets or JSP. If Messenger is only a client, you can obviously ignore large chunks of what I said previously ;) I realize Paolo's is a server (work in progress), and that he wants an ASF-branded JMS server implementation. Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project
Hi, [ X ] +1 I support this proposal [ ] -1 I don't support this proposal [ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: boilerplate LICENSE text in different formats was: questions license for site documents
Hi, I have started a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/LicenseFormats for boilerplate text in different formats. Cool and useful -- thanks ;) Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The Name Jakarta
Howdy, I was going to put this in the tomcat FAQ until I noticed it was in the wikipedia ;) An interesting web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_term_etymologies Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:45 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: The Name Jakarta Quoting Uncle Roastie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why/how was the name Jakarta choosen? Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was the name of the conference room at Sun where a large number of the discussions about the original formation of the project, as well as the contribution of Tomcat from Sun to Apache, took place. I guess the name sort of stuck. Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
License 2.0 URI inclusion
Howdy, I'm reading the license information page (http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/) and I was glad to see the license can be included as a reference URI instead of the full text (section 8 on the above page). My questions are: - Is there a preference/reason to pick the TXT over the HTML version? - http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 is OK for license 2.0. But it'd be nice if /licenses/LICENSE was symlinked to the current version, so that when ASF license 2.1 or 3.0 comes out we don't have to update all our source code. Is there such a symlink (the current /licenses/LICENSE is for 1.1)? - I've looked at the example NOTICE file (http://www.apache.org/licenses/example-NOTICE.txt). Since it's an HTTPD example, it has those paragraphs about NCSA, etc. If I'm writing the NOTICE file for a jakarta project that depends on other jakarta projects only, do I need to include them in the NOTICE file? Finally, is this the right place to ask/discuss this? Or do I need to subscribe to yet another mailing list, this time [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Yoav Shapira This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
