RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-23 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 October 2003 02:24
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:56 +0100
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Maybe you can find new xsl file via
   jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
   
   ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..
  
  As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to 
 JMeter, so I doubt if
  that would work.
 
 D'oh... Sorry. I had a little confused.
 
 Okeydokey. 
 
 What I proposed here, was not Please use Forrest, all the
 Jakarta-XX-Team, but Dear Jakarta-XX-Project, which
 want to use Apache Forrest 

OK, understood.

We might still be interested if it can cope with our requirements:
- separate docs for binary build (stylesheet probably won't do because of
Java HTML display)
- auto-generation of HTML anchors and contents list
- ability to have contents list in two columns
- automatic generation of links between pages based on previous and next
markers in XML

All of this is done by Anakia at the moment.

I'll try and take a look at Forrest to see what it can offer.

 
 I've heard that Struts Team once discusses about the usage of Forrest,
 so I said What about Struts?
 
 As for JMeter, I think now it is working well. 
 (Yes, I sent patches for the re-build of the site using Anakia, 
 the other day)

Thanks.

 Just I took a look at the current JMeter site and found that
 there's still Copyright 1999-2001 statement at the bottom
 of each pages. So, I told you the procedure of updating 
 website how-to.

The patches have been applied to CVS, but we have yet to update the
web-site.

This is partly lack of time, and partly that the documentation of JMeter has
been updated and no longer corresponds with the released version.

S.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Chalko
Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
build.

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

Hi,

I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
for Jakarta SubProjects...
Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.

(What about Struts?)

--

I prepared Jakarta-Skin which is similar to
POI-skin (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
projects can re-use.
Any thoughts?

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nick Chalko wrote:
Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
build.

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
...
I prepared Jakarta-Skin which is similar to
POI-skin (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
projects can re-use.
It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin 
is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we 
can make the project use that one.

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 16:16
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
 for Jakarta SubProjects...
 
 Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
 http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
 
 I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.
 
 (What about Struts?)
 
 --
 
 I prepared Jakarta-Skin which is similar to
 POI-skin (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
 and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
 projects can re-use.
 
 Any thoughts?

JMeter needs to be able to build two versions of its documentation - one for
the web-site, and the other for use when running JMeter. This does not have
the left-hand navigation bar. JMeter uses some of the pages in its help
system, which is displayed using Java.

Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
Or perhaps it would make things easier?

At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for
the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I
think these are rather out of date.

S.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3]
are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective
modules directly)
Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1
avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications.
I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however,
I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the
future.
If the skin is just a better version of the same skin it would be ok to 
patch it. If the skin will depart a lot from that, then the Avaloners 
would need to decide to cooperate in it.

In any case, the krysalis-site skin has many more features, and I'm 
getting it ready to be able to switch forrest-site to use that one, with 
of course the traditional Forrest colors. So you can look in that skin 
to eventually add the extra features to the avalon-tigris skin.

In any case, if you send teh patches for avalon-tigris I'll take a look 
at them.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100
BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
 Or perhaps it would make things easier?

Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs.

 At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for
 the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I
 think these are rather out of date.

It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
(www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
$ umask 0002
$ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
$ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
$ cvs update
yet.

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Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days
(Really easy).

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 18:47
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
  Or perhaps it would make things easier?
 
 Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs.

For some things, yes, but not for the interactive Help system.
Help uses Java to display an HTML document, and the application navigates to
the correct part of the appropriate file. We don't want to require the users
to install Acrobat.

Java is very finicky about what it will cope with ...

 
  At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with 
 separate VSL fiels for
  the site and printable versions - there are some XSL 
 stylesheets, but I
  think these are rather out of date.
 
 It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
 (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
 $ umask 0002
 $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
 $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
 $ cvs update
 yet.
 

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML
into HTML.
Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL
versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
documentation, as far as I know.

 --
 
 Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days
 (Really easy).

Not sure we want to regenerate the whole site from CVS at present.

There have been a lot of updates to the user documentation, but the
corresponding version of the software has not been released. It would be
confusing if the online docs described a version that was not generally
available.

However, if you can publish a separate version that does not change the
existing site, that would be useful.

S.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100
(Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
  (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
  $ umask 0002
  $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
  $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
  $ cvs update
  yet.

 Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
 The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML
 into HTML.
 Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL
 versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
 documentation, as far as I know.

Sorry, me too at a loss :-)

Maybe you can find new xsl file via
jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl

... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
 -Original Message-
 From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 October 2003 19:17
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
 
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100
 (Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
 BAZLEY, Sebastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
   (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
   $ umask 0002
   $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
   $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
   $ cvs update
   yet.
 
  Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
  The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to 
 transform the XML
  into HTML.
  Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but 
 not the XSL
  versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
  documentation, as far as I know.
 
 Sorry, me too at a loss :-)
 
 Maybe you can find new xsl file via
 jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
 
 ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..

As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to JMeter, so I doubt if
that would work.

S.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3]
are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective
modules directly)
Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1
avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications.

I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however,
I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the
future.

What would you say, Avalon-Team?
(See http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)

-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[1] - http://ws.apache.org/
[2] - http://ws.apache.org/axis/
[3] - http://ws.apache.org/soap/

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:14:55 +0200
(Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nick Chalko wrote:
  Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
  build.
  
  Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
 ...
  I prepared Jakarta-Skin which is similar to
  POI-skin (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
  and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
  projects can re-use.
 
 It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin 
 is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we 
 can make the project use that one.
 
 -- 
 Nicola Ken Barozzi   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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