Re: Jakarta PMC election results
Hi all, I have no objection to the elections, but for the benefit of the Jakarta members, could a current PMC member please list the PMC members (current and proposed) and which projects they are qualified to represent? I at least would like to know who's speaking for what project. - Morgan --- Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/7/01 8:04 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Donald: five +1's, one +0, one -1. Passes. Diane Holt: six +1's.Passes. Beyond challenge. Ted Husted: five +1's, one +0. Passes. Ceki Gülcü: seven +1's. Passes. Beyond challange. Geir Magnusson Jr.:four +1's, two +0's. Passes. Daniel F. Savarese:four +1's, two +0's. Passes. Jason van Zyl: four +1's, two +0's. Passes. +1 -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Morgan Delagrange Britannica.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
on 3/8/01 11:44 AM, "Morgan Delagrange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have no objection to the elections, but for the benefit of the Jakarta members, could a current PMC member please list the PMC members (current and proposed) and which projects they are qualified to represent? I at least would like to know who's speaking for what project. - Morgan http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
Ah, so according to the site the proposed PMC represents: Peter Donald: Avalon, Ant Diane Holt: No listing on Site, don't know her work Ted Husted: Site doesn't list Karma, but I know he at least works on Struts Ceki Gülcü: Log4J Geir Magnusson Jr.: Velocity Daniel F. Savarese: Site doesn't list Karma, probably ORO Hans Bergsten: Site doesn't list Karma, don't know his work, probably Tomcat? James Duncan Davidson: Tomcat, Ant Pierpaolo Fumagalli: Jserv, probably Tomcat? Craig McClanahan: Jserv, Struts, probably Tomcat? Sam Ruby: Site doesn't list Karma, don't know his work (other that his Chairmanship, that is :) Jon S. Stevens: JServ, ECS, Turbine Anil Vijendran: Tomcat So if you cross-reference this list against Jakarta subprojects, you get the following subproject representation: Ant 2 Avalon 1 ECS 1 James 0 Jetspeed 0 JMeter 0 Log4J 1 ORO 1 Regexp 0 Slide 0 Struts 2 Taglibs 0 Tomcat 5 Turbine 1 Velocity 1 Watchdog 1 An improvement, I guess, but still not perfect. The Apache board's compliant still seems legitimate, since we don't really know who's representing what. Maybe Sam could comment on the roles of the nominees, since I'm sure he knows what project they work on, and the site is not specific enough. --- Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/8/01 11:44 AM, "Morgan Delagrange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have no objection to the elections, but for the benefit of the Jakarta members, could a current PMC member please list the PMC members (current and proposed) and which projects they are qualified to represent? I at least would like to know who's speaking for what project. - Morgan http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Morgan Delagrange Britannica.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
Morgan Delagrange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierpaolo Fumagalli: Jserv, probably Tomcat? Craig McClanahan: Jserv, Struts, probably Tomcat? Jserv is dead, and both of us are working on Tomcat 4.0 Pier -- Pier Fumagalli http://www.betaversion.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
That list is perfect, Jon. Thanks! Perhaps the PMC might go as far as to designate point person(s) for each subproject? E.g. if nobody from the PMC is monitoring the dev mailing list for a particular project, they're not really in the know despite their karma. I know that those karma lists are considerably longer than the people I hear from in a typical week, which makes me fear that some are not active participants. --- Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/8/01 2:39 PM, "Morgan Delagrange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you cross-reference this list against Jakarta subprojects, you get the following subproject representation: Ah, I see what you are trying to do. Actually, it is better to just look at the avail file and get your data that way. That is about as specific as possible because it shows who has CVS write access to what. http://www.apache.org/websrc/viewcvs.cgi/CVSROOT/avail From that POV, you can see that there are ASF members and or PMC members involved with *every* Jakarta Project currently available. In reality, we should simply create another page on the website that lists things out in exact specifics. It would be something similar to what I started here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/members-projects.html As you can see, I'm involved with quite a few projects. :-) It would be nice if others picked up the balls as well. I'm getting tired. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Morgan Delagrange Britannica.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
Morgan Delagrange wrote: Sam Ruby: Site doesn't list Karma, don't know his work (other that his Chairmanship, that is :) Well, let me introduce myself then. I was the release manager for Tomcat 3.1 and pretty much all of the releases of Ant until 1.0. I was a very active coder in both (primarily focusing on getting both to work on JDK 1.1 and Windows) until they got "good enough" for my purposes at which point I focused on community building activities. I spent some time nurturing the xml-soap subproject and getting the Bean Scripting Framework open sourced. Most recently, my focus has been on a proposal for jakarta-alexandria by the name of "Gump", and occasionally nudging the commons proposal in the direction I would like to see it headed. Maybe Sam could comment on the roles of the nominees, since I'm sure he knows what project they work on, and the site is not specific enough. Watch this space. Take a look at the agenda I posted. Pay particular attention to items 3.2 and 5. Also item 4.2 is the key towards the long term solution. I personally like the model of the Apache board where every year every board seat is up for re-election, and all of the members get an opportunity to nominate and vote for their choice. - Sam Ruby P.S. If you want to see who has karma to which project, "cvs checkout CVSROOT". Look at a file by the name of avail. Meanwhile, here is that information in a more convenient form: (See attached file: committers.zip) committers.zip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta PMC election results
Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: Was it _that_ hard to understand ? :) Not after you explained it so politely and nicely to me... ;-) - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
