Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-27 Thread sebb
On 27/03/06, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/26/06, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, here goes:
 
  http://people.apache.org/~sebb/source.html
 
  I removed the CVS references.
 
  Note that the #Patches anchor is referenced from getinvolved  vendors
  so I kept the original heading and added subheadings for the various
  aspects.
 
  So long as there are no objections, I can apply the changes tomorrow
  and regenerate the site.
 snip/

 Thanks for doing this.

 s/Buzilla/Bugzilla/ (Submitting Patches, 3rd para, 1st sentence).

 I'll pick it up if you miss it ;-)


Thanks, I'll correct that.

S.
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Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread sebb
Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.

And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
whom aren't interested.

Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
where he says that he followed the guidelines in:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches

which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.

I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.

In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.

[Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]

I'd also like to split the patch section into two:

Patch Creation

Patch Submission

Any objections to this?

If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
home page for review.

Sebastian (sebb AT AO)

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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt

Agreed and +1 to the changes..

sebb wrote:

Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.

And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
whom aren't interested.

Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
where he says that he followed the guidelines in:

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches

which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.

I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.

In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.

[Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]


In short : with very simple patches (eg fixing a typo in the docs) I think a patch as attachment is 
appropiate. Instead of applying the patch I will simply correct the typo by hand..
So it could be usefull to mention this. Though I prefer code patches to be in an issue tracker, so 
it is traceable (at least if people add the issuenumber in the commit message)


Mvgr,
Martin




I'd also like to split the patch section into two:

Patch Creation

Patch Submission

Any objections to this?

If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
home page for review.

Sebastian (sebb AT AO)

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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola,
+1.  For any kind of patch, attaching to an open issue is better.  The
poster can (and usually should) always email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to discuss the patch.

Yoav

On 3/26/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Agreed and +1 to the changes..

 sebb wrote:
  Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
  attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
 
  And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
  whom aren't interested.
 
  Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
  where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
 
  which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
 
  I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
  submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
 
  In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
  grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
 
  [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]

 In short : with very simple patches (eg fixing a typo in the docs) I think a 
 patch as attachment is
 appropiate. Instead of applying the patch I will simply correct the typo by 
 hand..
 So it could be usefull to mention this. Though I prefer code patches to be in 
 an issue tracker, so
 it is traceable (at least if people add the issuenumber in the commit message)

 Mvgr,
 Martin


 
  I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
 
  Patch Creation
 
  Patch Submission
 
  Any objections to this?
 
  If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
  home page for review.
 
  Sebastian (sebb AT AO)
 
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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread sebb
Indeed.

Where the product has multiple versions, it may not be obvious where
in SVN to find the appropriate code - and of course someone else may
already be working on it.

S.
On 26/03/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hola,
 +1.  For any kind of patch, attaching to an open issue is better.  The
 poster can (and usually should) always email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to discuss the patch.

 Yoav

 On 3/26/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Agreed and +1 to the changes..
 
  sebb wrote:
   Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
   attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
  
   And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
   whom aren't interested.
  
   Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
   where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
  
   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
  
   which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
  
   I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
   submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
  
   In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
   grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
  
   [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]
 
  In short : with very simple patches (eg fixing a typo in the docs) I think 
  a patch as attachment is
  appropiate. Instead of applying the patch I will simply correct the typo by 
  hand..
  So it could be usefull to mention this. Though I prefer code patches to be 
  in an issue tracker, so
  it is traceable (at least if people add the issuenumber in the commit 
  message)
 
  Mvgr,
  Martin
 
 
  
   I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
  
   Patch Creation
  
   Patch Submission
  
   Any objections to this?
  
   If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
   home page for review.
  
   Sebastian (sebb AT AO)
  
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RE: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Gary Gregory
+1. 

I like having one place, Bugzilla, as the 'repository' for patches as
opposed to email lists.

Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: sebb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:42 AM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Submitting patches
 
 Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
 attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
 
 And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
 whom aren't interested.
 
 Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
 where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
 
 which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
 
 I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
 submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
 
 In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
 grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
 
 [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]
 
 I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
 
 Patch Creation
 
 Patch Submission
 
 Any objections to this?
 
 If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
 home page for review.
 
 Sebastian (sebb AT AO)
 
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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 12:41 +0100, sebb wrote:
 Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
 attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
 
 And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
 whom aren't interested.
 
 Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
 where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
 
 which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
 
 I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
 submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
 
 In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
 grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
 
 [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]
 
 I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
 
 Patch Creation
 
 Patch Submission
 
 Any objections to this?

sounds good :)

 If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
 home page for review.

no need to bother: if the feedback's positive then commit and we'll
review the diffs. 

perhaps this information may be better at foundation level but any move
can wait until you've patched...

- robert


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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread sebb
OK, here goes:

http://people.apache.org/~sebb/source.html

I removed the CVS references.

Note that the #Patches anchor is referenced from getinvolved  vendors
so I kept the original heading and added subheadings for the various
aspects.

So long as there are no objections, I can apply the changes tomorrow
and regenerate the site.

S.
On 26/03/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 12:41 +0100, sebb wrote:
  Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
  attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
 
  And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
  whom aren't interested.
 
  Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
  where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
 
  http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
 
  which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
 
  I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
  submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
 
  In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
  grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
 
  [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]
 
  I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
 
  Patch Creation
 
  Patch Submission
 
  Any objections to this?

 sounds good :)

  If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
  home page for review.

 no need to bother: if the feedback's positive then commit and we'll
 review the diffs.

 perhaps this information may be better at foundation level but any move
 can wait until you've patched...

 - robert


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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/26/06, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, here goes:

 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/source.html

 I removed the CVS references.

 Note that the #Patches anchor is referenced from getinvolved  vendors
 so I kept the original heading and added subheadings for the various
 aspects.

 So long as there are no objections, I can apply the changes tomorrow
 and regenerate the site.


+1 ... looks great!

S.


Craig

On 26/03/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 12:41 +0100, sebb wrote:
   Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla
   attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment.
  
   And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of
   whom aren't interested.
  
   Just received such a patch on JMeter - the poster helpfully has a blog
   where he says that he followed the guidelines in:
  
   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html#Patches
  
   which do indeed suggest sending patches to the developer mailing list.
  
   I'd like to suggest a change, so that the preferred method of
   submitting patches is via Bugzilla or JIRA.
  
   In the case of projects using JIRA, I believe that asks for a software
   grant, so it's important that code is submitted that way.
  
   [Actually, I'm not sure when emailed patches are appropriate...]
  
   I'd also like to split the patch section into two:
  
   Patch Creation
  
   Patch Submission
  
   Any objections to this?
 
  sounds good :)
 
   If not, I'll make a start on updating the text - and put a copy on my
   home page for review.
 
  no need to bother: if the feedback's positive then commit and we'll
  review the diffs.
 
  perhaps this information may be better at foundation level but any move
  can wait until you've patched...
 
  - robert
 
 
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Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 3/26/06, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, here goes:

 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/source.html

 I removed the CVS references.

 Note that the #Patches anchor is referenced from getinvolved  vendors
 so I kept the original heading and added subheadings for the various
 aspects.

 So long as there are no objections, I can apply the changes tomorrow
 and regenerate the site.
snip/

Thanks for doing this.

s/Buzilla/Bugzilla/ (Submitting Patches, 3rd para, 1st sentence).

I'll pick it up if you miss it ;-)

-Rahul



 S.
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