Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Scott Tavares
they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

http://java.net/



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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Christopher Lenz
That's because it's powered by CollabNet/SourceCast, and CollabNet sponsors 
Tigris. A lot of SourceCast is (or is going to be) built on top of Tigris 
projects like Scarab and Subversion (IIUC).

-chris

Scott Tavares wrote:
they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

http://java.net/



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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Frank Cohen
I'm at JavaOne following the fun around java.net and java.com.

This morning I learned more about the new developer portal 
http://www.java.net. The site is edited by Tim O'Reilly and the chief 
web dog is James. Tim describes himself as the Colonel Sanders of the 
site, he jokes that it's really a group of O'Reilly Associates editors 
that will be editing the site. From what I've learned java.net is a 
private-labeled version of SourceForge with a bunch of new bells and 
whistles added (blogs, wikis, forums.) So it is open for anyone to host 
a public project, open-source projects included. I'm going to look into 
creating a mirror of the PushToTest site on Java.net - PushToTest is 
home to the TestMaker community, an open-source project for testing 
Web-enabled applications, especially Web Services. I'll post here on my 
experience with Java.net.

-Frank

On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 04:04 AM, Christopher Lenz wrote:

That's because it's powered by CollabNet/SourceCast, and CollabNet 
sponsors Tigris. A lot of SourceCast is (or is going to be) built on 
top of Tigris projects like Scarab and Subversion (IIUC).

-chris

Scott Tavares wrote:
they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
http://java.net/



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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Price


Frank Cohen wrote:
I'm at JavaOne following the fun around java.net and java.com.
Lucky!

This morning I learned more about the new developer portal 
http://www.java.net. The site is edited by Tim O'Reilly and the chief 
web dog is James. Tim describes himself as the Colonel Sanders of the 
site, he jokes that it's really a group of O'Reilly Associates editors 
that will be editing the site. From what I've learned java.net is a 
private-labeled version of SourceForge with a bunch of new bells and 
whistles added (blogs, wikis, forums.) So it is open for anyone to host 
a public project, open-source projects included.
Sounds like another place where projects can gestate, developing a 
community, before applying for admission to Jakarta...



Erik

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-11 Thread Scott Tavares
Ya'  i just noticed that...

Christopher Lenz wrote:

That's because it's powered by CollabNet/SourceCast, and CollabNet 
sponsors Tigris. A lot of SourceCast is (or is going to be) built on 
top of Tigris projects like Scarab and Subversion (IIUC).

-chris

Scott Tavares wrote:

they are even using the tigris style (http://style.tigris.org) CSS on 
the project page (http://www.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectList)

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

http://java.net/



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Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
http://java.net/

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:48:57 +0200
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 http://java.net/

But failed in JavaScript ;-)

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? Or 
Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Santiago Gala
Steven Noels escribió:
On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? Or 
Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.

Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
marketing trends are being set up.

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?


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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Steven Noels
On 10/06/2003 13:38 Santiago Gala wrote:

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
*shrug*

I for one have just filed our own open source xReporter project to be 
linked from java.net. I expect the requisite of having a _diverse_ 
community of developers doesn't exist over there, so it might be a nice, 
visible place to grow a community until it is ready for eventual 
contribution to the ASF.

I'm pretty sure people will still think of apache.org as being the 
ultimate destination for a good OSS project. If java.net helps them to 
get there, why not?

Some corporate codebase dumpings might also be expected over there, 
which is good since they won't come knock on our doors then.

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Santiago Gala wrote:
Steven Noels escribió:

On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? 
Or Sourceforge? Savannah?

Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.
Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
marketing trends are being set up.

Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
As little or as much as we want to let it.

Examples:

1) If an ASF Jakarta subproject were to come to depend on an java.net 
project, would I create a project definition for the java.net project in 
Gump?  Absolutely.

2) If the majority of committers to an ASF Jakarta subproject were to 
want to move their codebase to java.net, would I help them?  Absolutely.

Is the open source Java world big enough for both a Jakarta and a 
java.net?  Absolutely.

- Sam Ruby

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Re: Sun copies Jakarta?

2003-06-10 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I agree. It's just like depending on a open source project on sourceforge (Gump builds 
~60
projects from SF - http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/modxref.html)

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--- Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Santiago Gala wrote:
  Steven Noels escribió:
  
  On 10/06/2003 9:48 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
 
  or MS (http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/directory.aspx)? 
  Or Sourceforge? Savannah?
 
  Diversity is what keeps Darwin's sledgehammer away, IMHO.
  
  Darwin will take care of most such initiatives. But it looks like new 
  marketing trends are being set up.
  
  Now, how does this affect our ecosystem?
 
 As little or as much as we want to let it.
 
 Examples:
 
 1) If an ASF Jakarta subproject were to come to depend on an java.net 
 project, would I create a project definition for the java.net project in 
 Gump?  Absolutely.
 
 2) If the majority of committers to an ASF Jakarta subproject were to 
 want to move their codebase to java.net, would I help them?  Absolutely.
 
 Is the open source Java world big enough for both a Jakarta and a 
 java.net?  Absolutely.
 
 - Sam Ruby
 
 
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