new look

2002-06-27 Thread Kasper Nielsen

Hi

I just saw the new look on http://java.sun.com/ and boy its neat.
What about bringing something like this to jakarta land?? (And no. I'm not
currently Volunteering to do this)

I also thought thought that 'Community Discussion '
(http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/community/chat/) like they have on
java.sun.com would be a great idea for jakarta as well.

- Kasper



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Re: new look

2002-06-27 Thread Henri Yandell



On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

 on 6/27/02 11:10 AM, Kasper Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Isn't maven more directed towards each independent top-project??
  The great thing about the java.sun.com layout is that there is so much room
  for writing stuff and linking to stuff.

 I would be strongly -1 on copying their layout. We should be original from
 Sun.

I'm hoping that an aspect of maven will focus on dealing with collections
of projects at some point. creating a top level site for them, grouping
documentation.

If it can be nice and recursive, then it could create a nice automated
system with a common look and feel. I guess a lot of that is really xdoc
and not maven.

  Yeah i know, I was actually more refering to announced sessions, lets say a
  posting on the front page of jakarta.apache.org
  July 16 11:00 A.M. PDT/6:00 P.M. GMT
  The Turbine Framework
  Guests: Jon Scott Stevens and Jason Van Zyl
 
  And then some kind of swing app on top so people doesn't have to install a
  IRC client.

 The ChatZilla irc client comes with Mozilla and works pretty well/easily and
 is free. I don't see why that is such a hurdle for people.

agreed, however the idea of announced sessions is quite cool. Rather than
just a talk on the turbine framework, it could focus on things like:

Tomcat 5 released, come learn about this new release and what it gives
you.

Maven 1.0 out, why you should use it.

or just question and answer sessions.

Hen


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Re: new look

2002-06-27 Thread Jon Scott Stevens

on 6/27/02 12:15 PM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm hoping that an aspect of maven will focus on dealing with collections
 of projects at some point. creating a top level site for them, grouping
 documentation.

http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/

I see a list of 9 subprojects in the grey bar under the logo's...

 If it can be nice and recursive, then it could create a nice automated
 system with a common look and feel. I guess a lot of that is really xdoc
 and not maven.

That would be nice.

 agreed, however the idea of announced sessions is quite cool. Rather than
 just a talk on the turbine framework, it could focus on things like:
 
 Tomcat 5 released, come learn about this new release and what it gives
 you.
 
 Maven 1.0 out, why you should use it.
 
 or just question and answer sessions.

Personally, I would rather see developers writing code not spending all
their time in IRC with silly conversation...=) Nice thing about email is
that you can do it on your time where IRC is live and people tend to
banter...not a bad thing...just that it seems like a waste of time for this
group...where the sun thing is a marketing tool...

-jon


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Re: new look

2002-06-27 Thread Kasper Nielsen


- Original Message -
From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: new look


 on 6/27/02 11:10 AM, Kasper Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Isn't maven more directed towards each independent top-project??
  The great thing about the java.sun.com layout is that there is so much
room
  for writing stuff and linking to stuff.

 I would be strongly -1 on copying their layout. We should be original from
 Sun.

I wasn't talking about AN exact copy, but some of the ideas like the post
it's on the right side.


  Yeah i know, I was actually more refering to announced sessions, lets
say a
  posting on the front page of jakarta.apache.org
  July 16 11:00 A.M. PDT/6:00 P.M. GMT
  The Turbine Framework
  Guests: Jon Scott Stevens and Jason Van Zyl
 
  And then some kind of swing app on top so people doesn't have to install
a
  IRC client.

 The ChatZilla irc client comes with Mozilla and works pretty well/easily
and
 is free. I don't see why that is such a hurdle for people.

Not all people are using Mozilla, no matter what if people can access the
discussion with just one click its easier then installing a new client.
However it shouldn't be a problem im sure there are some open source
irc-clients.
And the important thing wasn't how _to_ access the sessions but _having_
announced sessions.

- Kasper



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