Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: | Another useflag-related question. | | Currently, the encode useflag is defined as follow: | | encode - Adds support for MEncoder or LaME encoder, wherever applicable | | this is a loose definition which is quite useless for medium user, as it's | used also in a non-complete-standard way in all ebuilds. | | My proposal is to start using lame useflag to enable lame support (in software | which is just encoding on itself), and using encode with a slight different | definition for example: | | encode - Adds support for encoding files in addiction to decoding should this be ok'ed make sure to put addition, not addiction | | so that it can be used to enable generic encoding support instead of specific | using lame or mencoder. | | Comments? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFChuvPUpKYMelfdYERAm5XAJ0QKEhbGcBiPju0RWYoDDIeU4NNsQCfby8l Hy1CnYNhXUTkeOT5t8ZoelE= =wYmu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have_NPTL proposal/question
R Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the only thing i know of that needs LT is Xen, and they're already working on NPTL support. Also the (user space) driver from Epson for the Stylus Photo R800 printer needs Linuxthreads. While much of this is available in source code form, it includes a couple of binary libraries. These do not work correctly using NPTL. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
On Sunday 15 May 2005 04:54 pm, Danny van Dyk wrote: Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. note that the only syntax change you need to make is: gcc-getCC - tc-getCC gcc-getCXX - tc-getCXX otherwise toolchain-funcs should drop in nicely for gcc Also, Diego (Flameeyes) asked me to remind the maintainers of those packages to make sure their routines work with gcc-4, too. (Things like [[ $(gcc-version) == 3.4 ]] should be changed to apply to gcc-4 as well, as that version is even more nitpicking than gcc-3.4) even better, you should ask yourself why you need to check the gcc version and see if you cant make it make work properly regardless of the version -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day or so ago. On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:54, Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all, grepped the tree tonight for ebuilds which inherit (deprecated) gcc.eclass. Attache is a list of packages that have at least one ebuild that matches ^inherit.*gcc. Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. Also, Diego (Flameeyes) asked me to remind the maintainers of those packages to make sure their routines work with gcc-4, too. (Things like [[ $(gcc-version) == 3.4 ]] should be changed to apply to gcc-4 as well, as that version is even more nitpicking than gcc-3.4) Here we go: app-admin/socklog app-admin/sus app-arch/arc app-arch/arj app-arch/gzip-x86 app-arch/pbzip2 app-arch/rpm2targz app-benchmarks/lmbench app-cdr/arson app-cdr/b5i2iso app-cdr/bchunk app-cdr/cdemu app-cdr/cdrdao app-cdr/cdrtools app-cdr/dvdrtools app-cdr/mdf2iso app-crypt/cli-crypt app-editors/nedit app-emacs/mpg123-el app-emulation/tiger app-emulation/vmware-workstation app-emulation/xtrs app-i18n/dbskkd-cdb app-i18n/jmcce app-i18n/kcc app-misc/emelfm app-misc/mmv app-misc/pax-utils app-text/7plus app-text/ghostscript app-text/html2text app-text/recode app-text/unix2dos app-text/vlna dev-cpp/gnomemm dev-db/cdb dev-db/mysql++ dev-dotnet/mono dev-embedded/gpsim dev-embedded/picasm dev-games/hawknl dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre dev-lang/erlang dev-lang/gnu-smalltalk dev-lang/perl dev-lang/pm3 dev-lang/tolua dev-libs/DirectFB dev-libs/bglibs dev-libs/dietlibc dev-libs/djb dev-libs/libmoe dev-libs/openssl dev-libs/xalan-c dev-lisp/clisp dev-tex/cjk-latex dev-tex/csindex dev-util/efence dev-util/lincvs dev-util/webcpp games-action/atanks games-action/glaxium games-action/poopmup games-action/xshipwars games-arcade/gunocide2ex games-arcade/tuxracer games-emulation/fbzx games-emulation/fceultra games-emulation/generator games-emulation/mupen64 games-emulation/xmame games-emulation/xmess games-fps/anaglyph-stereo-quake games-fps/prboom games-fps/quake1 games-fps/quake2-icculus games-fps/ttyquake games-kids/gtans games-misc/wumpus games-mud/powwow games-puzzle/quadra games-roguelike/moria games-roguelike/nethack games-rpg/egoboo games-rpg/freedroid games-server/halflife-metamod games-server/tetrix games-simulation/pmars-sdl games-sports/race games-strategy/wesnoth gnome-base/gnome-vfs gnome-extra/drwright gnome-extra/guppi mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mail-filter/qmail-scanner mail-mta/mini-qmail media-fonts/pcf2bdf media-gfx/duhdraw media-gfx/fbi media-gfx/gimageview media-gfx/transfig media-gfx/w3mimgfb media-gfx/yafray media-libs/flac media-libs/libemf media-libs/libfame media-libs/libmatroska media-libs/libmpeg3 media-libs/libpng media-libs/libvorbis media-libs/netpbm media-libs/quicktime4linux media-libs/smpeg media-libs/vflib media-libs/xine-lib media-plugins/mythmusic media-plugins/rmxmms media-sound/lame media-sound/mup media-sound/museseq media-sound/vorbis-tools media-video/asfrecorder media-video/cinelerra media-video/cinelerra-cvs media-video/dvdbackup media-video/ffmpeg media-video/goggles media-video/kdenlive media-video/lve media-video/mjpegtools media-video/mpgtx media-video/piave media-video/transcode media-video/vlc media-video/xanim media-video/xmovie net-analyzer/bigeye net-analyzer/ethereal net-analyzer/gnu-netcat net-analyzer/nmap net-analyzer/nttcp net-analyzer/sonar net-analyzer/tcpdump net-analyzer/traceroute-nanog net-analyzer/ttcp net-fs/openafs net-im/bitlbee net-im/gabber net-im/gaim net-irc/irssistats net-libs/cvm net-libs/gecko-sdk net-libs/libesmtp net-libs/liblockfile net-mail/checkpassword net-mail/checkpw net-mail/cmd5checkpw net-mail/cvm-vmailmgr net-mail/dot-forward net-mail/ezmlm net-mail/mailfront net-mail/mailwrapper net-mail/poppassd_pam net-mail/qlogtools net-mail/queue-fix net-mail/relay-ctrl net-mail/vmailmgr net-misc/dante net-misc/datapipe net-misc/etherwake net-misc/ifenslave net-misc/mknbi net-misc/tightvnc net-misc/udhcp net-p2p/dclib net-print/poster sci-geosciences/gempak sys-apps/gradm sys-apps/hdparm sys-apps/iproute2 sys-apps/memtester sys-boot/grub sys-boot/syslinux sys-devel/bison sys-devel/distcc sys-kernel/gentoo-sources sys-libs/glibc sys-libs/libtrash sys-libs/pam sys-libs/pam_ssh_agent sys-libs/uclibc www-client/mozilla www-client/mozilla-firefox x11-misc/fbdesk x11-plugins/wmtz -- Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -- -o()o- Michael Cummings |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net -o()o- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:11 pm, Michael Cummings wrote: Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day or so ago. portage isnt griping, gcc.eclass is because i put it there besides, i didnt use caps and i said 'Please', so it's just a friendly notice ! -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: one advantage that other binary based package managers have over Gentoo is ease of recovery from broken core packages ... break your gcc ? no problem ! simply do `apt-get install gcc` or `rpm -i gcc` or whatever my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered by simply running `emerge` a few times, you run `erescue broken package` for example, when i broke binutils in unstable with a gcc4 patch, i noticed that it's hard for users to *easily* recover from this ... we developers end up scrambling to build a bunch of binary packages for a variety of compatible compiler/libc combinations so the user can just wget the file and run `emerge binutils.tbz2` and be on their way the packages that would be eligible for an 'erescue' package would be just about everything when you do `USE=-* emerge system -ep` ... i'm sure we can trim many of those out though :) maybe even create a new USE flag for some of these core packages so that we can trim out more files the idea would be to create very bare min packages so that the user can simply 'rescue' themselves ... after that, they it's up to them to re-emerge the package to apply all their fun ricer-optimizations as they see fit i dont think it'd be too hard to integrate this 'rescue set' into a catalyst target so that it'll become part of our normal release schedule of stage tarballs -mike I like the ideia :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Portage bitching out loud [Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc']
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:21 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2005 05:11 pm, Michael Cummings wrote: Would have been nice to get this email before portage started griping a day or so ago. portage isnt griping, gcc.eclass is because i put it there besides, i didnt use caps and i said 'Please', so it's just a friendly notice ! -mike Can portage moaning about various validation that end users don't care about be made a FEATURE? I hate upgrading package-x and the guy standing over my shoulder seeing Invalid blah blah. -- Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
Mike Frysinger wrote: [...] Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - untar the package. -- Krzysiek 'Nelchael' Pawlik RLU #322999[EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo base system - kernel 2.6.11-ck8 GPG:0x7E226904 http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~nelchael/ Never forget: 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
Thanks! Just the cue I needed :) On Sunday 15 May 2005 17:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2005 04:54 pm, Danny van Dyk wrote: Please use toolchain-funcs.eclass where possible. note that the only syntax change you need to make is: gcc-getCC - tc-getCC gcc-getCXX - tc-getCXX otherwise toolchain-funcs should drop in nicely for gcc -- -o()o- Michael Cummings |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net -o()o- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:54:20 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: net-im/bitlbee Fixed. Cheers, -- Jason Wever Gentoo/Sparc Team Co-Lead pgpcThbNhS88K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - untar the package. Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCh84IXVaO67S1rtsRAibiAKD6i0twE/06iCEqe+uiHa8ht3tUVQCgoYTo A+8VR9nD42r+NlH3M4tVFUE= =+Fva -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake schrieb: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources I don't see any gentoo-sources ebuilds using this. Can you please re-check? Ok, i seem to have used the wrong tree (a bit outdated CVS instead livetree, sorry). Here is a new list which still consists of 161 items and should be uptodate: app-admin/socklog app-admin/sus app-arch/arc app-arch/arj app-arch/gzip-x86 app-arch/pbzip2 app-arch/rpm2targz app-benchmarks/lmbench app-cdr/arson app-cdr/b5i2iso app-cdr/bchunk app-cdr/cdemu app-cdr/cdrdao app-cdr/cdrtools app-cdr/dvdrtools app-cdr/mdf2iso app-crypt/cli-crypt app-editors/nedit app-emacs/mpg123-el app-emulation/tiger app-emulation/vmware-workstation app-emulation/xtrs app-i18n/dbskkd-cdb app-i18n/jmcce app-i18n/kcc app-misc/emelfm app-misc/mmv app-misc/pax-utils app-text/7plus app-text/ghostscript app-text/html2text app-text/recode app-text/unix2dos app-text/vlna dev-cpp/gnomemm dev-db/cdb dev-db/mysql++ dev-embedded/gpsim dev-embedded/picasm dev-games/hawknl dev-java/blackdown-jdk dev-java/blackdown-jre dev-lang/erlang dev-lang/gnu-smalltalk dev-lang/perl dev-lang/pm3 dev-lang/tolua dev-libs/DirectFB dev-libs/bglibs dev-libs/dietlibc dev-libs/djb dev-libs/libmoe dev-libs/xalan-c dev-lisp/clisp dev-tex/cjk-latex dev-tex/csindex dev-util/lincvs dev-util/webcpp games-action/atanks games-action/glaxium games-action/poopmup games-arcade/gunocide2ex games-emulation/fbzx games-emulation/fceultra games-emulation/generator games-emulation/mupen64 games-emulation/mupen64-jttl_sound games-emulation/mupen64-riceplugin games-emulation/xmame games-emulation/xmess games-fps/prboom games-fps/quake1 games-fps/ttyquake games-kids/gtans games-misc/wumpus games-mud/powwow games-puzzle/quadra games-roguelike/moria games-roguelike/nethack games-rpg/egoboo games-rpg/freedroid games-server/tetrix games-simulation/pmars-sdl games-sports/race games-strategy/wesnoth gnome-base/gnome-vfs gnome-extra/drwright gnome-extra/guppi mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mail-filter/qmail-scanner mail-mta/mini-qmail media-fonts/pcf2bdf media-gfx/duhdraw media-gfx/fbi media-gfx/gimageview media-gfx/transfig media-gfx/w3mimgfb media-gfx/yafray media-libs/libemf media-libs/netpbm media-libs/vflib media-plugins/mythmusic media-video/cinelerra net-analyzer/bigeye net-analyzer/gnu-netcat net-analyzer/nmap net-analyzer/nttcp net-analyzer/sonar net-analyzer/tcpdump net-analyzer/traceroute-nanog net-analyzer/ttcp net-fs/openafs net-im/bitlbee net-im/gabber net-im/gaim net-irc/irssistats net-libs/cvm net-libs/gecko-sdk net-libs/libesmtp net-libs/liblockfile net-mail/checkpassword net-mail/checkpw net-mail/cmd5checkpw net-mail/cvm-vmailmgr net-mail/dot-forward net-mail/ezmlm net-mail/mailfront net-mail/mailwrapper net-mail/qlogtools net-mail/queue-fix net-mail/relay-ctrl net-mail/vmailmgr net-misc/br2684ctl net-misc/datapipe net-misc/etherwake net-misc/ifenslave net-misc/mknbi net-misc/tightvnc net-misc/udhcp net-p2p/dclib net-print/poster net-proxy/dante sys-apps/gradm sys-apps/hdparm sys-apps/iproute2 sys-apps/memtester sys-block/buffer sys-boot/grub sys-boot/syslinux sys-devel/bison sys-devel/distcc sys-libs/libtrash sys-libs/pam sys-libs/pam_ssh_agent sys-process/runit www-client/mozilla www-client/mozilla-firefox x11-misc/fbdesk x11-plugins/wmtz Danny - -- Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCh9BzaVNL8NrtU6IRAneLAJ4pW3WvO2S6QZkdS06Wra1pXtjCFwCgi8ny t8ZmmqQDNLafZu1uQohDC0E= =5PBN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - untar the package. Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) Use static tar na bzip2 ;) Seriously: I'm for erescue (or whatever name will be chosen). -- Krzysiek 'Nelchael' Pawlik RLU #322999[EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo base system - kernel 2.6.11-ck8 GPG:0x7E226904 http://fatcat.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~nelchael/ According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
On Monday 16 May 2005 00:42, Danny van Dyk wrote: media-video/cinelerra I've specifically ignored this package as it needs to go away very soon. It's p.masked, also. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64) http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ pgpRtjuf0IT0d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 00:42 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Drake schrieb: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources I don't see any gentoo-sources ebuilds using this. Can you please re-check? Ok, i seem to have used the wrong tree (a bit outdated CVS instead livetree, sorry). Here is a new list which still consists of 161 items and should be uptodate: Probably best to make a bug to track this instead of tracking it on a ML :) Cheers, -- Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- Public GPG key: http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
* On Sun May-15-2005 at 04:48:04 PM -0600, Ryan said: [...] something, then its your fault for not having a backup. Of coarse this is just ONE way to backup. There are a bazillion ways to do it. The choice is up to you. Besides, if you are running the unstable branch And if Gentoo provides yet another choice for one to use in recovery then that sounds good to me. :) -- Sami Samhuri pgpuMMGhtbdVw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:32:40PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: Use `quickpkg` before dangerous updates/merges. If something brakes - untar the package. Doesn't work too well when tar's broken too. =) How about statically linking a version of tar with portage. This way tar cannot be broken. Add an option to emerge, --backup or something similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. Then make a erescue executable that can parse the command line to figure out which package the user wants to be rescued from, and execute the new tar command. -- David Stanek www.roninds.net GPG keyID #6272EDAF on http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 8BAA 7E11 8856 E148 6833 655A 92E2 3E00 6272 EDAF pgpQUoBThCuhI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson schrieb: Probably best to make a bug to track this instead of tracking it on a ML :) Jupp. See BUG #92745 ;-) Danny - -- Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCh+oTaVNL8NrtU6IRAi59AJ95sxNQ8Az1ePykT9OyQpkijNeMmwCghgh0 IMTq+gFZaUTvyI4nouSVKMk= =IJCt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: Add an option to emerge, --backup or something similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. If you set FEATURES=buildpkg, portage automatically makes binary packages for you. No need to add new support. pgpqwMjzk44tL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:12:13PM -0700, John Myers wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: Add an option to emerge, --backup or something similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. If you set FEATURES=buildpkg, portage automatically makes binary packages for you. No need to add new support. That would build a binary package for the potentially broken package. What it would need to do is build a binary package of the existing merged package. So a user can recover from a botched upgrade. -- David Stanek www.roninds.net GPG keyID #6272EDAF on http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 8BAA 7E11 8856 E148 6833 655A 92E2 3E00 6272 EDAF pgpXNiuhdlWu3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 09:56:54PM -0400, David Stanek wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 06:12:13PM -0700, John Myers wrote: On Sunday 15 May 2005 16:41, david stanek wrote: Add an option to emerge, --backup or something similar, that will automatically run quickpkg. If you set FEATURES=buildpkg, portage automatically makes binary packages for you. No need to add new support. That would build a binary package for the potentially broken package. What it would need to do is build a binary package of the existing merged package. So a user can recover from a botched upgrade. Actually a very simple safe-emerge script can be easily written. It could first do an 'emerge --buildpkg' on the existing merged package, if that package was already merged. The other part would be to create a statically linked version of tar that can be used in a recovery situation. -- David Stanek www.roninds.net GPG keyID #6272EDAF on http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 8BAA 7E11 8856 E148 6833 655A 92E2 3E00 6272 EDAF pgpvGsYgziGCW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 09:07:15PM -0700, Sami Samhuri wrote: * On Sun May-15-2005 at 05:18:06 PM -0400, Mike Frysinger said: [...] my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered by simply running `emerge` a few times, you run `erescue broken package` Everyone who is saying that Portage can already sort of handle this seems to be missing one important point. If Python is broken then emerge won't work. The proposed erescue would still work in that case. If erescue is a statically built binary that basically untars a backed up copy of a package, why would it depend on Python? -- David Stanek www.roninds.net GPG keyID #6272EDAF on http://pgp.mit.edu Key fingerprint = 8BAA 7E11 8856 E148 6833 655A 92E2 3E00 6272 EDAF pgpxBL8wrNK4r.pgp Description: PGP signature
