[gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
The following global USE flags have been deleted from the tree because no ebuild uses them. dba dio ingres msession nhc98 oggvorbis zeo I'm also going to move mcve to a local USE flag for PHP. In fact it should really just go away since PHP is no longer shipping the MCVE extension built in. It's a PECL module only. (plus my employer writes MCVE/Monetra and that code is mine to maintain now... however I make NO claims at it's current quality level since I have yet to write or edit a single line.) -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Doug Goldstein wrote: The following global USE flags have been deleted from the tree because no ebuild uses them. dba dio ingres msession nhc98 oggvorbis zeo Have you looked in eclass/ ? A quick grep for those sees a lot popping up in php eclasses. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Local USE flags bite the dust
While I'm still awake... Here's a list of unused local USE flags that aren't used anymore and got axed. net-misc/gnugk:accounting - Enables call logging (accounting) www-servers/skunkweb:apache1 - enable apache1 support if internal server and apache2 support not wanted dev-perl/gtk-perl:applet - Enable gnome applet support sci-mathematics/scilab:atlas - Add support for the atlas library mail-filter/spamassassin:dcc - Enable Distributed Checksum Clearinghouse support x11-wm/fluxbox:disablexmb - Disable XMB. Works around bug 65186. media-video/mplayer:edl - Enables usage of Edit Decision Lists sys-apps/baselayout-vserver:fakelog - install a fake logger init script dev-db/mysql:geometry - Add support for geometry data. sci-libs/gdal:grass - Adds support for the grasslib GIS library net-analyzer/scapy:hostap - Enable hostap driver www-client/w3m:imlib2 - If you want to link imlib2 instead of imlib against w3mimgdisplay dev-scheme/bigloo-lib:ipcs - enable ipcs support net-dns/djbdns:ipv6arpa - enables ipv6 arpa patch media-sound/bmpx:irssi - Install irssi script (need dbus and perl) I stopped at USE flags that start with J... -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: The following global USE flags have been deleted from the tree because no ebuild uses them. dba dio ingres msession nhc98 oggvorbis zeo Have you looked in eclass/ ? A quick grep for those sees a lot popping up in php eclasses. Thanks, Donnie Was just testing you... Donnie... you pass. ;) heh. (thanks for the e-mail before I committed) Well nhc98 oggvorbis zeo are gone. dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Local USE flags bite the dust
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 02:33, Doug Goldstein wrote: While I'm still awake... next time wait until you're more awake so you dont cross-post ;) -mike pgprWhp64b0zQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Trustees Announcement
On 9/6/06, Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I *think* he was trying to ask why Stuart feels that he can take on the responsibility of being a trustee if he felt that he didn't have the time to take on the responsibility of being a council member. I also must admit that I'm curious of the answer to that in light of the fact that he admittedly plans on leaving Gentoo sometime soon. To save everyone a bit of time, it'd be quicker just to read the existing thread on -core where I explained why I was standing as a trustee. Best regards, Stu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Doug Goldstein wrote: The following global USE flags have been deleted from the tree because no ebuild uses them. While you are cleaning up, could you take care of http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144534 please (ming/flash use flags). Thanks! -- Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG signature: http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEBA3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: Trustees Announcement
* Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To save everyone a bit of time, it'd be quicker just to read the existing thread on -core where I explained why I was standing as a trustee. It was -nfp (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/377). The list where this annoncement should have ... Anyway -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
On 9/6/06, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. Please don't do that. The PHP eclasses are there because we used to support building other PHP SAPIs (specifically thttpd). That's also why the USE flags were made global, as they'll need to be supported by all of web servers that will bundle PHP support. Best regards, Stu -- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE flags bite the dust
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:33:14AM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: While I'm still awake... Here's a list of unused local USE flags that aren't used anymore and got axed. I stopped at USE flags that start with J... Missed a few before j from the looks of it- attached is a list of unused use.local.desc flags should anyone be bored and care to clean it. Will generate an equiv global use.desc later. ~harring checks: 0 cat, 1 pkg, 0 version WARNING:root:profile 'default-linux/mips/2006.0' is marked as deprecated, read '/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/mips/2006.0/deprecated' please WARNING:root:ppcsha1 is reversed in /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/use.mask, but isn't set yet! app-editors/gvim: use.local.desc unused flag(s): termcap-compat app-editors/nano: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nomac app-editors/vim: use.local.desc unused flag(s): termcap-compat app-editors/vim-core: use.local.desc unused flag(s): termcap-compat app-emulation/qemu: use.local.desc unused flag(s): kqemu, qemu-fast, softmmu app-emulation/xen: use.local.desc unused flag(s): screen app-misc/beagle: use.local.desc unused flag(s): spreadsheet, webservices, wv app-misc/workrave: use.local.desc unused flag(s): noexercises, noexperimental app-text/acroread: use.local.desc unused flag(s): noplugin dev-java/ibm-jre-bin: use.local.desc unused flag(s): browserplugin dev-java/velocity: use.local.desc unused flag(s): j2ee dev-libs/cyrus-sasl: use.local.desc unused flag(s): pam-mysql dev-ml/ocamlsdl: use.local.desc unused flag(s): noimage, nomixer dev-util/cogito: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mozsha1, ppcsha1 dev-util/eclipse-sdk: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nogecko-sdk gnome-extra/sensors-applet: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nvidis gnustep-base/gnustep-base: use.local.desc unused flag(s): libffi kde-base/juk: use.local.desc unused flag(s): musicbrainz kde-base/kdemultimedia: use.local.desc unused flag(s): musicbrainz kde-misc/kxdocker: use.local.desc unused flag(s): net mail-client/mail-notification: use.local.desc unused flag(s): gmailtimestamps mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mozsvg mail-filter/spamassassin: use.local.desc unused flag(s): extramodules, pyzor, razor, spf media-gfx/blender: use.local.desc unused flag(s): fmod, ode media-gfx/k3d: use.local.desc unused flag(s): ngui media-libs/openexr: use.local.desc unused flag(s): fltk media-libs/tunepimp: use.local.desc unused flag(s): taglib media-libs/xine-lib: use.local.desc unused flag(s): cle266, i8x0, nvidia media-sound/amarok: use.local.desc unused flag(s): musicbrainz media-sound/audacity: use.local.desc unused flag(s): libsamplerate, soundtouch media-sound/banshee: use.local.desc unused flag(s): real media-sound/bmpx: use.local.desc unused flag(s): amazon media-sound/kid3: use.local.desc unused flag(s): musicbrainz media-sound/rhythmbox: use.local.desc unused flag(s): gstreamer010 media-tv/mythtv: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nvidia, unichrome media-tv/xdtv: use.local.desc unused flag(s): x264 media-video/cinepaint: use.local.desc unused flag(s): fltk media-video/fenice: use.local.desc unused flag(s): srvdir media-video/motiontrack: use.local.desc unused flag(s): libgd media-video/mplayer: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mythtv media-video/oxine: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mjpeg media-video/transcode: use.local.desc unused flag(s): pvm media-video/vlc: use.local.desc unused flag(s): cdio, screen net-fs/samba: use.local.desc unused flag(s): msdfs net-im/gossip: use.local.desc unused flag(s): galago net-mail/dovecot: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nopop3d net-misc/asterisk: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nopri, nozaptel net-misc/ntp: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nodroproot net-p2p/mldonkey: use.local.desc unused flag(s): oldgtk net-wireless/ipw2200: use.local.desc unused flag(s): radiotap net-wireless/ipw3945: use.local.desc unused flag(s): radiotap net-wireless/madwifi-ng-tools: use.local.desc unused flag(s): udev net-www/gnash: use.local.desc unused flag(s): dmalloc sys-apps/lm_sensors: use.local.desc unused flag(s): rrdtool sys-apps/pcmcia-cs: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nocardbus, pnp sys-apps/pcmciautils: use.local.desc unused flag(s): cis sys-cluster/magma-plugins: use.local.desc unused flag(s): nogulm sys-freebsd/freebsd-usbin: use.local.desc unused flag(s): lpr sys-kernel/ck-sources: use.local.desc unused flag(s): ck-plus sys-kernel/vserver-sources: use.local.desc unused flag(s): ngnet www-apps/dspam-web: use.local.desc unused flag(s): cyrus, exim, maildrop, procmail www-apps/gallery: use.local.desc unused flag(s): graphicsmagick www-client/mozilla: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mozxmlterm www-client/mozilla-firefox: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mozxmlterm www-servers/thttpd: use.local.desc unused flag(s): mkconfig x11-libs/goffice: use.local.desc unused flag(s): cairo x11-terms/mrxvt: use.local.desc unused flag(s): xgetdefault
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Ciao, On 06/09/06, Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/6/06, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. Please don't do that. The PHP eclasses are there because we used to support building other PHP SAPIs (specifically thttpd). That's also why the USE flags were made global, as they'll need to be supported by all of web servers that will bundle PHP support. In addition to what Stu just said, removing them would add a lot of local USE flags, and it really isn't worth it to change from local to global, imo... -1 - please don't do this for global PHP USE flags, thanks. Best, Elfyn -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Ciao, On 06/09/06, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. Erm, and duplicate USE flag detection code (thinks conflicts that portage still cannot handle... sigh) in every PHP ebuilds? No thanks! Easing maintainability is a good thing, ya know :P Best, Elfyn -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
On 06/09/06, Elfyn McBratney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciao, On 06/09/06, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. Erm, and duplicate USE flag detection code (thinks conflicts that portage still cannot handle... sigh) in every PHP ebuilds? No thanks! Easing maintainability is a good thing, ya know :P Very poorly worded, and apologies if that was hard to parse... *hides* -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flags bite the dust...
Bah... this is really the last time I shall reply to myself! [...] On 06/09/06, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: dba dio ingres msession mcve are all used by 1 ebuild... and that's dev-lang/php... they should be moved to local's. Consequence: php eclasses code should be moved in dev-lang/php ebuild. Erm, and duplicate USE flag detection code (thinks conflicts that portage still cannot handle... sigh) in every PHP ebuilds? No thanks! Easing maintainability is a good thing, ya know :P This is wrong. Regardless of local to global, and vice versa, this will not change the USE flag conflict detection. However, some of these flags are used elsewhere (as Stu has already noted), and I think since they've been around a while, and can easily be used by other new/old packages without changes to profiles/use.local.desc, they should stay where they are (global). Best, Elfyn -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!
Hola, I've been inspired by the local/global USE flag threads recently posted by Doug (Cardoe), and it got me to thinking... I've recently joined the pkgcore development effort, and was asked by Brian (ferringb) what I'd like to hack on/what my niggles with portage are. My personal one is why updates/ and binpkg mangling takes so long in portage-$current. But I'd like to know, what are everyone elses? I know that this topic have been rehashed since the dawn of time^Wgentoo-dev, but these things get lost, opinions change... and since last year, new and viable alternate package managers have cropped up. So, basically I'd like to ask all on this list: - what package manager features would make *your* life easier? Personally, I'd like to see the following groups of changes happen one way or another: * Improve QA with/by: - Detecting conflicting USE flags; - Limiting the amount of times we need to call die in ebuilds. Yes, that's a small list... which is why I'm sending this mail to solicit even more ideas. :) Comments, flames (read the archives, go jump in a pond, etc) and whatever else is coming my way - hit it me with it! ;P Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney, Freenode and Gentoo Developer, Nutty between the hours of 3AM and 14AM... +--+ | irc.freenode.net / beu | | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenode [.] net| | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo [.] org | +-- o.0 ---+ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:29:11AM +, Elfyn McBratney wrote: Hola, I've been inspired by the local/global USE flag threads recently posted by Doug (Cardoe), and it got me to thinking... I've recently joined the pkgcore development effort, and was asked by Brian (ferringb) what I'd like to hack on/what my niggles with portage are. My personal one is why updates/ and binpkg mangling takes so long in portage-$current. But I'd like to know, what are everyone elses? I know that this topic have been rehashed since the dawn of time^Wgentoo-dev, but these things get lost, opinions change... and since last year, new and viable alternate package managers have cropped up. So, basically I'd like to ask all on this list: - what package manager features would make *your* life easier? Personally, I'd like to see the following groups of changes happen one way or another: * Improve QA with/by: - Detecting conflicting USE flags; That one is on the map for trying to address via eapi=1; intention was to resurrect the approach of using a seperate metadata key, and extending depset support to include xor so that representing the _valid_ use conditional states is possible. Simple example, if you need mysql or postgres, but not both; VALID_USE_STATES=^ ( mysql postgres ) if it's not required to have them enabled, but still need one or the other if enabled VALID_USE_STATES=( || ( mysql postgres ) ^ ( mysql postgres ) ) Would need to extend depset in this case to support negation of blocks also (nand/nor); downside, it gets verbose. Upshot, it uses extisting syntax folks are familar with; the verbosity of it would also go down if/when use groups were implemented thus replacing USE_EXPAND (something that needs resurrecting and is another bit on the map, although not guranteed to be targeted). ~harring pgpL6Tum3Pj35.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Packages formerly maintained by myself
The following packages are now maintainer-needed, if anyone wants to pick them up feel free to do so. app-mobilephone/x70talk app-admin/flexlm app-misc/scope app-misc/linuxspa sys-devel/bin86 sys-devel/dev86 sys-apps/yum sys-boot/raincoat sys-boot/cromwell-bin sys-boot/cromwell app-emulation/domi net-fs/ccxstream sci-electronics/balsa sci-electronics/gplcver sci-electronics/petrify app-cdr/extract-xiso app-cdr/xdvdfs-tools -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE flags bite the dust
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: mail-filter/spamassassin: use.local.desc unused flag(s): extramodules, pyzor, razor, spf me thinks there be a bug here - I've removed extramodules from use.local.desc, but the others are still used by the 3.1.0 ebuild. - -- - -o()o-- Michael Cummings |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net Gentoo/SPARC Gentoo/AMD64 GPG: 0543 6FA3 5F82 3A76 3BF7 8323 AB5C ED4E 9E7F 4E2E - -o()o-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE/s3Mq1ztTp5/Ti4RAneuAJ9drRP7X8xe3vU5uz1JDQfnrUOG8QCeKiHJ oFxQurdGR7Qtpr1rnJVmpmk= =o9U7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. Javier has also done a great job of infiltrating yet another company with production servers running Gentoo :) I'm sure I'm not the only one to throw thank-you's and welcome him on board! Here's to a long and enjoyable involvement with Gentoo! -- Role:Gentoo Linux Kernel Lead Gentoo Linux:http://www.gentoo.org Public Key: gpg --recv-keys 9C745515 Key fingerprint: A0AF F3C8 D699 A05A EC5C 24F7 95AA 241D 9C74 5515 pgpgN7QPT6GIz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages formerly maintained by myself
Eeeek, didn't realise that you'd gone as well. *sniff* I hope the free time you have now that Gentoo isn't eating up a lot of it is ,er, free time well spent! Hope things are otherwise going okay, too. :) On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:21:35PM +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: The following packages are now maintainer-needed, if anyone wants to pick them up feel free to do so. sys-devel/bin86 sys-devel/dev86 Will take those if no one else really wants 'em - they don't need updating often, I'm familiar with the ebuilds and packages and I'm not going to get burnt-out over 'em. ;P Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney, Freenode and Gentoo Developer, Nutty between the hours of 3AM and 14AM... +--+ | irc.freenode.net / beu | | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenode [.] net| | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo [.] org | +-- o.0 ---+ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 02:50:54PM +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. Javier has also done a great job of infiltrating yet another company with production servers running Gentoo :) I'm sure I'm not the only one to throw thank-you's and welcome him on board! Here's to a long and enjoyable involvement with Gentoo! Welcome aboard, Javier! Another insider pushing gentoo from the, uh, inside when it comes to work, eh? Good Show! :) Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney, Freenode and Gentoo Developer, Nutty between the hours of 3AM and 14AM... +--+ | irc.freenode.net / beu | | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenode [.] net| | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo [.] org | +-- o.0 ---+ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. Ay, que bien! Bienvenidos, che. :) Steve -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages formerly maintained by myself
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 09:21, Chris Bainbridge wrote: The following packages are now maintainer-needed, if anyone wants to pick them up feel free to do so. sorry to see you go man sys-boot/raincoat sys-boot/cromwell-bin sys-boot/cromwell net-fs/ccxstream app-cdr/extract-xiso app-cdr/xdvdfs-tools thought there was an xbox herd ... guess not; time to make one -mike pgpi8pGJLGdpD.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Globalization of some USE flags etc.
I would like to suggest to globalize cairo and openexr USE flags because they are used by enough amount of packages. Also I have got a question about udev USE flag. udev USE flag is now local USE flag. In 4 cases this flag has description Enable udev rules file installation and in 2 cases - Install as an udev helper instead of a hotplug helper. As `find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name make.defaults -exec grep -l udev {} \;` says udev USE flag is set defaultly in the following files: /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/no-nptl/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/64bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/32bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/multilib/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/64bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/32bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/multilib/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ia64/2006.0/make.defaults Is udev USE flag set there because of necessity of Enabling udev rules file installation or because of necessity of Installing as an udev helper instead of a hotplug helper? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] What would Freud say? New developer; Mike Kelly!
On Tuesday 05 September 2006 17:22, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: Hailing from Pittsburgh, PA, the cognitive science department at Carnegie Mellon University comes Mike Kelly aka pioto. Hi pioto (say, is there some kind of Mike conspiracy going down now?) Already known by some of us from his excellent work on dynusers[1] during this years Summer of Code he now comes onboard to put it in the tree and maintaining it, Well in that case, my brother here, bugzilla, wants to say hi too :p apart from having implemented GLEP 27 he has previously contributed some ebuilds, such as net-im/zephyr. He'll no doubt take up some more interesting stuff besides dynusers, that is, if he finds time. Time is a theory, but Gentoo devs all know there's no such thing Although he is taking a gap year before returning as a fourth year student at CMU he keeps busy by doing watersports. Yes, watersports. I took a double take at that one, before realising he was talking about water polo and swimming. He comes prepared, Boy Scout and all! M wakeboarding I of course am most thrilled to find that we've another developer with a keen interest in the human brain, he may not be able to read your mind s/not be able to/not want to/ Yah, try not to analyze me too much.. you'll end up going insane yourself but he does speak bash, C, C++, Java, Perl and some sml. I tried speaking perl to one of my dates.. I got slapped :( So yeah, buy him a pint and welcome him onboard! SMTP, IMAP and POP3 don't support that. -- Chris White Gentoo Developer aka: ChrisWhite cpw ChrisWhite|Work WhiteChocolate VanillaWhiteWhitey WhiteLight WhiteCheese WhiteSugar WhiteButter WhiteWall WhiteLemon WhiteApple WhiteBlanket WhiteEnergy WhiteWhite SnowWhite pgpT94RpbXiLC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] What would Freud say? New developer; Mike Kelly!
snip So yeah, buy him a pint and welcome him onboard! SMTP, IMAP and POP3 don't support that. /snip What...you have never heard of PPP, the Pint to Pint protocol... (Sorry about this clear waste of bandwidth...it's early and my pun senses still have control of my fingers...) --Dan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-dev] Re: I'm concerned about a bug (#121142, imagemagick)
Roy Marples wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 15:18, Sven Köhler wrote: There's no comment by the maintainer for a while. I wrote the patches that are needed to fix the problem. They work fine as far as i can tell. Don't feel too bad - I frequently post patches to bugs reported on the same day and ask for feedback. Some of which are now over a year old without any feedback from the reporter. that is why I try to close a bug when commenting something on it. NEEDINFO usually works on those and allows you to clean up your list of inactive bugs. Best regards, Stefan -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] What would Freud say? New developer; Mike Kelly!
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 12:44, Daniel Ostrow wrote: (Sorry about this clear waste of bandwidth...it's early and my pun senses still have control of my fingers...) you're clogging up the tubes ! -mike pgpYWZx1rmgAH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Steve Dibb wrote: John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. Ay, que bien! Bienvenidos, che. :) Steve Gracias! :+) Javier. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) iD8DBQFE/wfFd7rSLwny+gYRA6zkAKCJh7GxaYaLr7YAwK1YFWGZA3+ZlACghgaM XhOQBfGKXiO8pFeCgn6B5/w= =KVCE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] What would Freud say? New developer; Mike Kelly!
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:17:44PM -0700, Daniel Ostrow wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 01:22 +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: Hailing from Pittsburgh, PA, the cognitive science department at Carnegie Mellon University comes Mike Kelly aka pioto. Already known by some of us from his excellent work on dynusers[1] during this years Summer of Code he now comes onboard to put it in the tree and maintaining it, apart from having implemented GLEP 27 he has previously contributed some ebuilds, such as net-im/zephyr. He'll no doubt take up some more interesting stuff besides dynusers, that is, if he finds time. Although he is taking a gap year before returning as a fourth year student at CMU he keeps busy by doing watersports. Yes, watersports. I took a double take at that one, before realising he was talking about water polo and swimming. He comes prepared, Boy Scout and all! I of course am most thrilled to find that we've another developer with a keen interest in the human brain, he may not be able to read your mind but he does speak bash, C, C++, Java, Perl and some sml. So yeah, buy him a pint and welcome him onboard! Welcome aboard, Mike! :) I hear you're working on paludis, so we might have to have some sort of fun competition to see who can add features first. :P Welcome to the insanityphear! Did someone say phreak? *hides* Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney, Freenode and Gentoo Developer, Nutty between the hours of 3AM and 14AM... +--+ | irc.freenode.net / beu | | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenode [.] net| | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo [.] org | +-- o.0 ---+ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 06:50, John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. I'm too white for this.. how do you say your last name :(? Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Diego's gonna be bored Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. You use those imaging apps to make the fish look 5x longer don't you :P Javier has also done a great job of infiltrating yet another company with production servers running Gentoo :) Did it involve Chuck Norris and roundhouse kicks? I'm sure I'm not the only one to throw thank-you's and welcome him on board! Here's to a long and enjoyable involvement with Gentoo! thank you? -- Chris White Gentoo Developer aka: ChrisWhite cpw ChrisWhite|Work WhiteChocolate VanillaWhiteWhitey WhiteLight WhiteCheese WhiteSugar WhiteButter WhiteWall WhiteLemon WhiteApple WhiteBlanket WhiteEnergy WhiteWhite pgpP8BqKanPo2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
Chris White wrote: On Wednesday 06 September 2006 06:50, John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. I'm too white for this.. how do you say your last name :(? Something like Vee-yah-vee-cehn-cee-oh, all the hindu ppl at work ask the same question (i don't dare to ask about their names tho), but it's easier to say it by phone :+P Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Diego's gonna be bored Can't answer that. But i think i can make sure he's currently not ^_^ Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. You use those imaging apps to make the fish look 5x longer don't you :P Yes, i'm only good at retouching, but it's still pretty hard to photoshop 310 fishes at the end of a weekend all over a table (5 ppl 62 each more or less). Gotta find that picture now. Javier has also done a great job of infiltrating yet another company with production servers running Gentoo :) Did it involve Chuck Norris and roundhouse kicks? I've made a python script that does that (with Chuck's facts), on the intranet irc channel at work :+). And there are two places (old jobs) where my gentoo servers are still running so far, I *hope* they're afraid of Chuck roundhouse kicking their servers if they try to replace them with something else. But i've heard they tried with opensuse and debian so far without luck. I'm sure I'm not the only one to throw thank-you's and welcome him on board! Here's to a long and enjoyable involvement with Gentoo! thank you? you welcome? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Globalization of some USE flags etc.
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 17:56 +0200, arfrever wrote: I would like to suggest to globalize cairo and openexr USE flags because they are used by enough amount of packages. Also I have got a question about udev USE flag. udev USE flag is now local USE flag. In 4 cases this flag has description Enable udev rules file installation and in 2 cases - Install as an udev helper instead of a hotplug helper. As `find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name make.defaults -exec grep -l udev {} \;` says udev USE flag is set defaultly in the following files: /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/no-nptl/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.0/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/64bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/32bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/multilib/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/64bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/32bit-userland/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/multilib/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/make.defaults /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ia64/2006.0/make.defaults Is udev USE flag set there because of necessity of Enabling udev rules file installation or because of necessity of Installing as an udev helper instead of a hotplug helper? Actually, because of both. We definitely want the udev files installed. Truthfully, they should probably be installed by default. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Trustees Announcement
Ciao, On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:24:49PM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: Dear All, Trustees voting did actually finish over a month ago. It's high time for the official announcement. This year's Board of Trustees for the Gentoo Foundation has been reduced to 5 people, instead of 13. That was something we wanted a vote on, in addition to the regular board, however, only 5 people were nominated. Thus, they formed the new board: I present to you, then, the new Board of Trustees: Chris Gianelloni (wolf31o2) Grant Goodyear (g2boojum) Stuart Herbert (stuart) Seemant Kulleen (seemant) Renat Lumpau (rl03) We will schedule the first Board Meeting for this year, for sometime this month, hopefully. Please note that the board is 60% new, so please do welcome the new members. Congratulations, trustees - new and old! :D Now where's my Free iPod? ;P Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney, Freenode and Gentoo Developer, Nutty between the hours of 3AM and 14AM... +--+ | irc.freenode.net / beu | | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenode [.] net| | beu [EMAIL PROTECTED] gentoo [.] org | +-- o.0 ---+ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE flags bite the dust
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:31:56AM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: Brian Harring wrote: mail-filter/spamassassin: use.local.desc unused flag(s): extramodules, pyzor, razor, spf me thinks there be a bug here - I've removed extramodules from use.local.desc, but the others are still used by the 3.1.0 ebuild. Nah, checks right here; at least the local portdir I have, pyzor, razor, extramodules, and spf aren't actually used by 3.1.0. None of the above are in iuse (what the check uses), so in that respect it's right- additionally, pyzror and spf are commented out in the ebuild (extramodules/razr aren't turning up in the ebuild, eclass maybe). ~harring pgpCSdmB2MJyI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:36:14 +0200 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this does not allow the actual maintainer to close the bug and causes a lot of bugspam for a person who does not care about it and should be only contacted in the end to commit fixes/patches/bumps. Shouldn't matter too much as a gentoo dev is still responsible for the package? of course he is still responsible. Does not mean he likes to get 10 mails about people asking for stable keywords and arches stabilizing every month. That comes with being responsible for a package in Gentoo. Live with it. Nobody shoud be adding stuff to portage without taking responsibility for it. I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. The maintainer can always assign me bugs if he thinks I should take care of them and I read and take care of them anyway because I am on maintainer-needed. That's fine and all, but it sort of sets a precedent - not everyone is on maintainer-needed. PS: mailing lists are a bit broken. 3 people answer me and ask almost the same and I answer almost the same again .. Then answer in only one subthread, and rest of them will die... :) Kind regards, -- Andrej Kacian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of maintenance is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem with this? Carsten pgpSw3egf3SKv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of maintenance is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem with this? I find this not at all surprising considering that one of his recent mentees failed so many of the ebuild quiz questions so badly as to be outright denied (which is not at all the recruit's fault). In any case, if you don't appreciate Stefan taking responsibility for stuff which he has no business touching in the first place, you have every right to tell him to piss off. -Steve -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
lets try resending this since our shitty mail servers seemed to have eaten it On Sunday 03 September 2006 05:20, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: or the committer be listed as a maintainer email address along with whoever is being proxied. maybe extend metadata.xml syntax ... add a proxy dev maintainer tag and leave the external non-gentoo as the maintainer Further I believe bugs against such packages should be assigned to the @gentoo.org address (proxy maintainer if there is one, herd otherwise), and CC'ed to the proxied maintainer address. i dont think this really matters ... assign it to the guy doing the fixing and cc the guy doing the committing -mike pgpyapk50aTX6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:37:21PM -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of maintenance is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem with this? I find this not at all surprising considering that one of his recent mentees failed so many of the ebuild quiz questions so badly as to be outright denied (which is not at all the recruit's fault). In any case, if you don't appreciate Stefan taking responsibility for stuff which he has no business touching in the first place, you have every right to tell him to piss off. Maybe I'm just a moron (well, likely I am), but why are you two posting this shit on the dev ml? Conflict for a change, fine, carlo go revert it. Crazy notion, but it's a one minute revert, yes it's not your mess but it is your package and _your_ users, leaving your users hanging because you're trying to make genstef clean something up screws the users over. The proper forum for crap like this is via taking it up with QA/devrel. Screaming about a change on the ml doesn't accomplish anything more then making you look like a jack ass trying to publically embarass someone you're pissed at; at least carlo has a reason, stephen you're just being an asshole. Further, Stephen shouldn't even know about a candidates failing, let alone go stating it on a public ml. Really nice one there; someone tries to help, deemed not yet skilled enough to have access to the tree, and you're bringing it up as a way to take potshots at genstef. Further, you're taking a potshot at a dev candidate who via going through the process was at least *trying* to contribute, even if they didn't pass the quiz. Carlo, go talk to devrel, stephen, go do your monthly mips stabling. Meanwhile spare us the idiocy, and do something productive. Screaming on a ml won't solve the conflict, just makes the screamer look childish. ~harring pgpljzlJFti07.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
lets try resending this since our shitty mail servers seemed to have eaten it On Sunday 03 September 2006 10:22, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: The maintainer must still be someone with a gentoo email. is that written down somewhere? I was under the impression that it is allowed and have seen it used for example in /usr/portage/www-client/links/metadata.xml except that metadata has something the ones in question here do not: a contact at gentoo.org if the non-gentoo.org is AFK -mike pgppOuw0ZUGFK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers
Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Sunday 03 September 2006 16:36, Stefan Schweizer wrote: I am not adding stuff. I am fixing existing packages. And I am taking responsibility. How wonderful this sort of maintenance is you can read here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146626 Am I the only one who has a problem with this? Genstef PLEASE always contact the related herd before adding stuff. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Paid support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 I'm in support of having a list of devs who want to do paid support. Anything that helps people eat is OK in my book. ;) On the other hand, I think we need to have the foundation run this past our lawyer(s) and make sure we have our i's dotted and out t's crossed. I would hate for something good like this to cause us problems down the road. I know christel is consulting with an accountant about adpot-a-dev, maybe she can throw this in as well? - --Curtis ps. I didn't read every message in the thread, sorry if I'm repeating stuff that's already been covered. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRP+W7kb8Q0uRCeTQAQElJggAvAOIq5cnRqAXgjGUJPpQv3VuQuLPAGY6 HTVRDC24kP3yeOCy7+lyFgwZ9qV90w36zMzAVYHmQzXqVVqjWxKp06HTD+L/3Di+ PEBvtnYSYeeSnooZ0Q8hMqiwCOaImJBImTRh3X/8Y1Omjhvz0+Yw2IPuvmBjyD+D aAYPOLuqcDP1GUogPv+rBYCQXCU8YrqPJu8AjM0nWktSzgWvxdJC7xDI7IYlmcB3 gUc+arxb9edVOFUZH4nF8ZkhbHWw3R4i104Jd60oCSKdsXo1gBdCb7CwAGeSpVdI N+qbGYuCsgdGa4f3lMfeuT5/jU7H5phEFEjFobu9S//4nWivx3NIHQ== =8+RA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] (Not so) New Developer - The Paya
John Mylchreest wrote: Hi Guys, I've been very slack about announcing some of our new guys recently, and not least Javier Villavicencio. Javier, known on IRC as The_Paya, joined us to work on all aspects Gentoo/FreeBSD plus anything else he can throw his skills at! Coming from Argentina he has an interest in fishing, high end hardware and playing with imaging apps. Javier has also done a great job of infiltrating yet another company with production servers running Gentoo :) I'm sure I'm not the only one to throw thank-you's and welcome him on board! Here's to a long and enjoyable involvement with Gentoo! Bienvenido! The south-america conspiracy is growing up! -- Luis F. Araujo araujo at gentoo.org Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list