Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2007-06-24 Thread Vlastimil Babka
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Alec Warner wrote:
 I vote no, because someone has to.
 
 -Alec
 
 PS: Thanks to be keeping the packages in the tree up to date.

So that's only one negative vote :) and others IIRC positive. Time to
fill some infra bug until it's forgotten again?

Or do we need a GLEP and/or council approval?
(just kidding)
((hopefully))
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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-24 Thread Steve Long
Petteri Räty wrote:
 Maybe the flag needs to be renamed/split up to clarify it's meaning,
 it's too generic in it's current form (many people enable it blindly and
 don't really have any clue what the result is).
 Like using USE=apidoc for API documentation, USE=extradoc for extra
 user documentation (controlling PDF generation and stuff like that),
 USE=rebuild-docs to replace pregenerated documentation with
 updated/regenerated versions (like the gtk-doc issue), and so on (don't
 know what other use cases there are for USE=doc currently).
 
 It's a large change, but USE=doc has been a significant problem for
 quite a while already (circular deps anyone?)
 
 
 That does sound like a good idea.
 
++ I was only thinking of the programmer:user difference, since code docs
tend to pull in a lot of stuff, where as end-user docs are normally
supplied in an easier format (eg not dox ;) rebuild-docs as a one-shot flag
is great.

Would there be a way to control what kind of markup is output (assuming a
package supports it)? For example, to specify that files should be for
text-only or graphical browser (where both would be the default.) XeTeX --
PS -- PDF is another along those lines.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:42:15 +1200
Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can just feel a USE expansion coming on.
 
 DOC=none pdf txt man ps html info all rebuild sounds like just a
 bunch for starters.
 
 Any votees?

No. It doesn't generalise well across packages.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-24 Thread Kent Fredric

On 6/25/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Petteri Räty wrote:
 Maybe the flag needs to be renamed/split up to clarify it's meaning,
 it's too generic in it's current form (many people enable it blindly and
 don't really have any clue what the result is).
 Like using USE=apidoc for API documentation, USE=extradoc for extra
 user documentation (controlling PDF generation and stuff like that),
 USE=rebuild-docs to replace pregenerated documentation with
 updated/regenerated versions (like the gtk-doc issue), and so on (don't
 know what other use cases there are for USE=doc currently).

 It's a large change, but USE=doc has been a significant problem for
 quite a while already (circular deps anyone?)


 That does sound like a good idea.

++ I was only thinking of the programmer:user difference, since code docs
tend to pull in a lot of stuff, where as end-user docs are normally
supplied in an easier format (eg not dox ;) rebuild-docs as a one-shot flag
is great.

Would there be a way to control what kind of markup is output (assuming a
package supports it)? For example, to specify that files should be for
text-only or graphical browser (where both would be the default.) XeTeX --
PS -- PDF is another along those lines.



I can just feel a USE expansion coming on.

DOC=none pdf txt man ps html info all rebuild sounds like just a
bunch for starters.

Any votees?


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[gentoo-dev] Last rites for x11-drivers/mtxdrivers-pro

2007-06-24 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
# Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] (24 Jun 2007)
# Masked for removal. bug #165898
x11-drivers/mtxdrivers-pro

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-24 Thread Steve Long
Kent Fredric wrote:
 ++ I was only thinking of the programmer:user difference, since code docs
 tend to pull in a lot of stuff, where as end-user docs are normally
 supplied in an easier format (eg not dox ;) rebuild-docs as a one-shot
 flag is great.

 Would there be a way to control what kind of markup is output (assuming a
 package supports it)? For example, to specify that files should be for
 text-only or graphical browser (where both would be the default.) XeTeX
 -- PS -- PDF is another along those lines.
 
 I can just feel a USE expansion coming on.
 
 DOC=none pdf txt man ps html info all rebuild sounds like just a
 bunch for starters.
 
 Any votees?
 
Not me, I'm afraid, unless this is the only way to do it.. I agree that they
should only apply to single packages, not across the tree. Although, if I'm
honest, I don't know what that breaks.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New Profiles

2007-06-24 Thread Daniel Glaser
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Hi Steve,
 Afaict that's the best place for users to get help (as IRC channel
 is for development of the actual software) and I've seen
 interesting discussions on there (but then, I'm a geek.. ;)
Sorry, was out for the Weekend. Thanks a lot for your help. Will log
on to irc tomorrow morning, as soon I've configured it on my workbox :-)

cu daniel
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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-06-24 23h59 UTC

2007-06-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2007-06-24 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
net-misc/tlsproxyd  2007-06-19 13:20:16 armin76
net-im/wildfire 2007-06-20 13:45:03 humpback
dev-libs/dbh2007-06-21 06:25:23 drac
app-emacs/ebuild-mode   2007-06-21 20:51:23 ulm
dev-java/sun-javamail-bin   2007-06-22 23:43:29 betelgeuse

Additions:
mail-filter/dovecot-dspam   2007-06-18 12:26:07 hollow
dev-perl/Tie-Cache  2007-06-18 19:17:48 mcummings
dev-ruby/plist  2007-06-19 01:25:14 nichoj
dev-ruby/oniguruma  2007-06-19 01:32:11 nichoj
dev-ruby/textpow2007-06-19 01:35:52 nichoj
dev-ruby/ultraviolet2007-06-19 01:38:51 nichoj
kde-misc/kopete-ktts2007-06-19 17:02:30 philantrop
dev-util/geany  2007-06-19 17:19:11 drac
sci-chemistry/autodock  2007-06-19 21:23:15 ribosome
media-sound/kwave   2007-06-21 06:00:51 philantrop
dev-perl/App-CLI2007-06-21 11:14:27 kang
dev-perl/Path-Class 2007-06-21 13:18:53 kang
app-admin/sshguard  2007-06-21 18:09:41 hawking
app-emacs/gentoo-syntax 2007-06-21 18:10:13 ulm
x11-libs/qwt-qt32007-06-21 18:16:51 caleb
app-emulation/ies4linux 2007-06-21 18:34:07 jurek
sys-fs/gt5  2007-06-21 18:38:45 angelos
app-mobilephone/cobex   2007-06-22 09:59:57 vapier
x11-apps/grandr 2007-06-22 21:45:24 dberkholz
dev-util/mono-debugger  2007-06-23 02:17:35 jurek
net-misc/goog-sitemapgen2007-06-23 06:39:53 jmglov
dev-util/osdt   2007-06-23 08:56:14 jmglov
dev-util/hgsvn  2007-06-23 13:08:04 cedk
dev-libs/dclog  2007-06-23 13:24:52 jmglov
dev-python/pystdf   2007-06-23 20:48:24 vapier
dev-dotnet/edtftpnet2007-06-24 02:20:13 jurek
sys-fs/flickrfs 2007-06-24 03:53:27 jmglov
kde-misc/filelight-i18n 2007-06-24 16:38:30 philantrop
dev-dotnet/monocalendar 2007-06-24 17:28:32 jurek
dev-dotnet/monouml  2007-06-24 19:22:57 jurek
dev-dotnet/log4net  2007-06-24 20:40:19 jurek

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Removed Packages:
net-misc/tlsproxyd,removed,armin76,2007-06-19 13:20:16
net-im/wildfire,removed,humpback,2007-06-20 13:45:03
dev-libs/dbh,removed,drac,2007-06-21 06:25:23
app-emacs/ebuild-mode,removed,ulm,2007-06-21 20:51:23
dev-java/sun-javamail-bin,removed,betelgeuse,2007-06-22 23:43:29
Added Packages:
mail-filter/dovecot-dspam,added,hollow,2007-06-18 12:26:07
dev-perl/Tie-Cache,added,mcummings,2007-06-18 19:17:48
dev-ruby/plist,added,nichoj,2007-06-19 01:25:14
dev-ruby/oniguruma,added,nichoj,2007-06-19 01:32:11
dev-ruby/textpow,added,nichoj,2007-06-19 01:35:52
dev-ruby/ultraviolet,added,nichoj,2007-06-19 01:38:51
kde-misc/kopete-ktts,added,philantrop,2007-06-19 17:02:30
dev-util/geany,added,drac,2007-06-19 17:19:11
sci-chemistry/autodock,added,ribosome,2007-06-19 21:23:15
media-sound/kwave,added,philantrop,2007-06-21 06:00:51
dev-perl/App-CLI,added,kang,2007-06-21 11:14:27
dev-perl/Path-Class,added,kang,2007-06-21 13:18:53
app-admin/sshguard,added,hawking,2007-06-21 18:09:41
app-emacs/gentoo-syntax,added,ulm,2007-06-21 18:10:13
x11-libs/qwt-qt3,added,caleb,2007-06-21 18:16:51
app-emulation/ies4linux,added,jurek,2007-06-21 18:34:07
sys-fs/gt5,added,angelos,2007-06-21 18:38:45
app-mobilephone/cobex,added,vapier,2007-06-22 09:59:57
x11-apps/grandr,added,dberkholz,2007-06-22 21:45:24
dev-util/mono-debugger,added,jurek,2007-06-23 02:17:35
net-misc/goog-sitemapgen,added,jmglov,2007-06-23 06:39:53
dev-util/osdt,added,jmglov,2007-06-23 08:56:14
dev-util/hgsvn,added,cedk,2007-06-23 13:08:04
dev-libs/dclog,added,jmglov,2007-06-23 13:24:52
dev-python/pystdf,added,vapier,2007-06-23 20:48:24
dev-dotnet/edtftpnet,added,jurek,2007-06-24 02:20:13
sys-fs/flickrfs,added,jmglov,2007-06-24 03:53:27
kde-misc/filelight-i18n,added,philantrop,2007-06-24 16:38:30
dev-dotnet/monocalendar,added,jurek,2007-06-24 17:28:32
dev-dotnet/monouml,added,jurek,2007-06-24 19:22:57
dev-dotnet/log4net,added,jurek,2007-06-24 20:40:19

Done.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Hiatus (sort of)

2007-06-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 31 March 2007, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the
 visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up.
 Our computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in
 australia after roughly 6 weeks. I'm looking to buy a laptop, but
 connectivity will be problematic anyways. As such I will not be able to
 contribute as much as I would like.

It took a while longer, but I finally have broadband again, and my computers 
back etc. I'll first be catching up on the email, but I'm back in action 
again. Now from Hobart, Tasmania (Australia)

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Unifying the behavior of the doc use flag and document it

2007-06-24 Thread Daniel Drake

Mart Raudsepp wrote:

gtk+ documentation rebuilding can take as much as 30 to 60 minutes with
the doc USE flag for example. The benefit is cross references to glib,
pango and cairo documentation - upstream can not do that as they do not
know where the other docs will be found on disk. Though I should see if
they can not use relative paths somehow..


You might consider moving these docs to a separate package aimed at 
people developing using GTK+. gtk+ would then not install these 
documents at all.


We did something similar with kernel docs (see sys-kernel/linux-docs) 
and there have been no complaints so far.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Hiatus (sort of)

2007-06-24 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Paul de Vrieze wrote:

On Saturday 31 March 2007, you wrote:

Hi all,

Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the
visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up.
Our computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only arive in
australia after roughly 6 weeks. I'm looking to buy a laptop, but
connectivity will be problematic anyways. As such I will not be able to
contribute as much as I would like.


It took a while longer, but I finally have broadband again, and my computers 
back etc. I'll first be catching up on the email, but I'm back in action 
again. Now from Hobart, Tasmania (Australia)


Welcome back!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Hiatus (sort of)

2007-06-24 Thread Will Briggs
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Paul de Vrieze wrote:
 On Saturday 31 March 2007, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting
 for the
 visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set
 ourselves up.
 Our computers however are being shipped as we speak and will only
 arive in
 australia after roughly 6 weeks. I'm looking to buy a laptop, but
 connectivity will be problematic anyways. As such I will not be able to
 contribute as much as I would like.

 It took a while longer, but I finally have broadband again, and my
 computers back etc. I'll first be catching up on the email, but I'm
 back in action again. Now from Hobart, Tasmania (Australia)

 Welcome back!

And welcome to Tas. :-)
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Hiatus (sort of)

2007-06-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 It took a while longer, but I finally have broadband again, and my
 computers back etc. I'll first be catching up on the email, but I'm
 back in action again. Now from Hobart, Tasmania (Australia)

 Welcome back.  We broke all your packages in the meantime.  And
don't forget to adjust your geo-data.

V-Li

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