Re: [gentoo-dev] newins - for standard input?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: what would people think of newins (and the other new* commands) accepting - as the first argument? I like it :-) Bug 263565 now. Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}
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Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
Dne neděle 22 Březen 2009 17:50:26 Alin Năstac napsal(a):
Please do not apply patches that have ${P} prefix in other ebuild
versions than ${PV}.
Is that hard to create a new patch with a proper name?
Cheers,
Alin
Hi,
I was working on patches glep [1] (nothing final and it is highly in progress
but as i can see more pple is interested so i am throwing it to the space so
there might be somebody else whom might help me with it).
I think the discussion made it clear that people want to do things differently
and there is no reason that we should not allow different teams to follow
different conventions.
Furthermore a lot of our patches are in the sed format and I happen to think
that's a good thing.
Unless your GLEP is prepared to handle these issues it seems completely useless
to me.
Marijn
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0
Patrick Lauer wrote: [deprecating stuff] I'd rather switch to git first, have eapi in separate branches then, make sure we can provide eapi-N compatibility/migration tree snapshots and then warn people so there will be a easy way to provide fallbacks. Before that I'm afraid it would take too much. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Furthermore a lot of our patches are in the sed format and I happen to think that's a good thing. My current view is that sed patches should only be used where static patches don't work, ignoring laziness (including mine) for the moment. Why do you feel sed patches are a good thing? Who but the ebuild writer would prefer that to patches? For instance isn't it much easier to share patches among distros than parts of very distro- specific scripts, ebuilds in our case? Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: dev-lang/pugs
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Torsten Veller wrote:
* Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org:
Torsten Veller wrote:
# Masked for removal (#151986,#171649,#239222) (23 Mar 2009)
# 151986 - dev-lang/pugs-6.2.13 installs stuff in /lib instead of /usr/lib
# 171649 - dev-lang/pugs-6.2.13 fails to build with ghc-6.6
# 239222 - Remove dependencies in pugs on dev-lang/ghc-bin
dev-lang/pugs
I don't see how any of the above is fatal. Can you explain a bit better why
you
want to remove this? Isn't pugs still the most complete implementation of
Perl6?
It fails to build. No release in the last years.
Do you want to maintain it?
No. I talked to some people in #perl6 and apparently pugs is abandoned.
Marijn
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Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}
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Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
Furthermore a lot of our patches are in the sed format and I happen to think
that's a good thing.
My current view is that sed patches should only be used where
static patches don't work, ignoring laziness (including mine)
for the moment.
That's enough reason right there. But also, static patches are very often not
what I want and they would often break unnecessarily where a sed would not have.
Lastly I prefer to have the source changes right there in the ebuild when they
are not too elaborate and patches don't allow that.
Why do you feel sed patches are a good thing? Who but the ebuild
writer would prefer that to patches? For instance isn't it much
easier to share patches among distros than parts of very distro-
specific scripts, ebuilds in our case?
sed's can very easily be turned into patches when needed, so we don't lose
anything. Patches are context dependent and usually this is not why I need.
Usually I need to replace certain strings irrespective of how many or where they
are or their context and sed is the tool that does exactly this and is more
robust to changes in the source that don't matter.
Marijn
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:40:05 +0100 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd rather switch to git first, have eapi in separate branches then, make sure we can provide eapi-N compatibility/migration tree snapshots and then warn people so there will be a easy way to provide fallbacks. Uhm. Do you think these ideas of yours through at all before posting them? Either you think the entire tree should be switched to a new EAPI in one go, in which case how on earth is that going to get done, or you don't, in which case there's no point to branches, and any migration can be done using a simple tag. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: genstef gems special edition
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 23:08 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote: Since genstef has been .away for some time, I arranged with him that I'd send a list of his ebuilds that need maintenance to be put up for grabs. This list contains all ebuilds that have no herd, at least one open bug and where genstef is the maintainer. net-misc/vde I'll take this one. Daniel
Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: genstef gems special edition
On Monday, March 23, 2009 23:35:00 Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Montag, den 23.03.2009, 23:08 +0100 schrieb Peter Alfredsen: Since genstef has been .away for some time, I arranged with him that I'd send a list of his ebuilds that need maintenance to be put up for grabs. This list contains all ebuilds that have no herd, at least one open bug and where genstef is the maintainer. media-video/linux-uvc I'd have the hardware for that one if nobody else takes it. Also note the UVC driver has been integrated into the mainline kernel as of 2.6.26.
[gentoo-dev] Re: please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org posted 49c8d6ee.3070...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:49:50 +0100: Lastly I prefer to have the source changes right there in the ebuild when they are not too elaborate and patches don't allow that. The preference makes sense, but the statement based on it, that patches don't allow putting the change in the ebuild, doesn't. I've used here document based patches in my own bash scripts to good effect so I know it works, and if it's working in my bash scripts, it's going to work in bash script based ebuilds as well. The only reason patches would need to be file based would be convenience, and as soon as it's an inconvenience, with the convenience being having them in the ebuild itself, here document based patches to the rescue! =:^) That sed, said (ha! =:^) does have certain advantages as you pointed out, when a specific string change is desired, regardless of context, which may well change between versions. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman
[gentoo-dev] media-video/mpeg4ip to give out or give up
Hello, mpeg4ip is dead upstream and has various bugs [1] (some we patch, some we don't). I'll package.mask/remove it if no one wants to take it over (and effectively become upstream). [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190959 -- Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org Gentoo Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
