Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Why isn't /root/.bash_profile in the stage tarballs?
On Saturday 22 September 2007, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
Steve Long wrote:
Great. What exactly? How does fulfilling the user requirement with
vapier's solution mess up catalyst?
This is the the first time I've heard of a user requesting this change. It
seems to me that many people prefer to *not* have a .bash{rc,_profile} in
/root
sure, people with irrational (from the point of Gentoo) fears
actually read the default files and you'll see they're pretty much helpful
explanatory comments ... except for the logout file where it runs `clear` and
no one wants *that* for root
which is the way it's always been.
on Gentoo, yes, it's been this way *so far*, but not for other distros
Why not just add the ability to
copy these files with 'emerge --config' to certain ebuilds, and then add a
note to the handbook telling users to run the command if they want to?
running commands to get a sane default is not user friendly
Even better, just tell the users to run 'cp -a /etc/skel/* /root/' if they
really want the stuff, and not modify any ebuilds at all?
since it wont work at all ... i dont think ive ever seen /etc/skel/ have
something which didnt start with a .
-mike
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Why isn't /root/.bash_profile in the stage tarballs?
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 08:01 +0100, Steve Long wrote: I've already stated my preference for not doing *anything* outside of merging packages in the stages. With respect, this is a little confusing. I didn't get past the learning curve for catalyst, but it's clearly not the same as simply merging packages, or you wouldn't need a special tool. The tool does things like setting up the chroot. The code run by catalyst to get a stage3 from a stage2, not counting things like chroot setup, is emerge -e world just like going from a stage2-stage3 by hand. Anyway, you don't really need to understand it, as I do, and vapier does. If you're really interested, learn a bit about catalyst. Uninformed opinions help no one. So I don't need to understand it do understand the argument, or I do? Thanks for conceding that it does a little bit more than merging packages, in any case. It seemed to me that a clean, *simple* solution which would work for any future packages that might also need this functionality was proposed. Why not just use it? It's only one command, and the standardisation would mean users could rely on the mechanism for system recovery. Uhh... what does adding emerge --config have to do with catalyst? There's nothing stopping vapier/anyone from adding the emerge --config steps to the ebuilds. I simply said that I'm not wanting to add code to run those to catalyst for the reasons I have already stated. In no way does that impact the usefulness of the config code for end users. It only affects what goes into the stages. Well clearly it's affected at least one user (or was it a dev; it doesn't matter does it really?) who stated it affects others. If vapier's solution of adding *one* command line to catalyst doesn't fulfil the user requirement, could you state how? Or am I missing some deeper technical implication? Yup. Great. What exactly? How does fulfilling the user requirement with vapier's solution mess up catalyst? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Why isn't /root/.bash_profile in the stage tarballs?
Steve Long wrote:
Great. What exactly? How does fulfilling the user requirement with vapier's
solution mess up catalyst?
This is the the first time I've heard of a user requesting this change. It seems
to me that many people prefer to *not* have a .bash{rc,_profile} in /root, which
is the way it's always been. Why not just add the ability to copy these files
with 'emerge --config' to certain ebuilds, and then add a note to the handbook
telling users to run the command if they want to?
Even better, just tell the users to run 'cp -a /etc/skel/* /root/' if they
really want the stuff, and not modify any ebuilds at all?
--
Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/
Gentoo Linux Developer Catalyst/Installer + x86 release coordinator
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Why isn't /root/.bash_profile in the stage tarballs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
2007-09-22 21:57:43 Andrew Gaffney napisał(a):
Even better, just tell the users to run 'cp -a /etc/skel/* /root/'
Rather:
cp -a /etc/skel/{*,.[^.]*,..?*} /root
- --
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux)
iD8DBQFG9Xab/axNJ4Xo/ZERAq4cAKCNrdHT3G3QrRF+LVyAXP3+QhwB4ACfZz8S
0axPBQmlUNdYHfgHD1jp+Ro=
=KW3v
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
