Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-09 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 08/08/2011 05:58 μμ, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
 On Tuesday 02 of August 2011 20:32:32 Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/02/2011 09:20 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 Hello fellow developers,
 
 I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual
 package for all the icon-theme packages. According to this
 bug[1], it seems like pcmanfm, and possible other applications
 too, require an icon-theme to be present, no matter which one. So
 I think it would make sense to create a new virtual package to
 include all the existing icon-themes.
 
 ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme 
 x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )
 
 --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up
 with missing icons for some applications. However, most icon
 themes should include all the basic icons.
 
 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309
 
 Thoughts?
 
 since whatever gets added to the virtual should be at least almost
 up to date with the spec, and provide the most common icons
 
 virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme for name, just my opinion... 
 http://standards.freedesktop.org/ as HOMEPAGE 
 freedesktop-b...@gentoo.org as maintainer
 
 ++
 
 virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme is a better name IMHO as it's what
 this virtual icon theme actually is - theme compliant with
 freedesktop standard (so that can be used by applications claiming
 support like chromium, KDE, Gtk apps), not just some icon theme (as
 any instant messenger icon set would fall under some icon theme
 category for instance).
 
Yes I will fix the name and the typo that was mentioned in another
reply. I will commit the virtual tonight.

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Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-08 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 08/06/2011 12:00 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 On 08/02/2011 07:30 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Markos Chandras schrieb:
 - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end
 up with missing icons for some applications. However, most icon
 themes should include all the basic icons.
 
 You could have USE flags for the virtual, so that some package
 could depend on virtual/icon-theme[foo-icons], while the virtual
 depends on foo-icons? ( || ( list of packages known to contain
 foo-icons ) )
 
 Of course, this makes sense only if it is known or easy to find out
  which icon-themes contain which icons.
 
 
 Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
 
 
 I plan to go ahead with my proposal. I wont use any use flags for
 now. Whoever feels this virtual is useful for him, he can use it,
 otherwise you may skip it. I will send the virtual ebuild for review
 before I commit it to portage tree.
 

Please review the attached ebuild. If you think that more icon-themes
need to be added let me know. Unfortunately these are the icon themes
that I was able to test so far.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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SRC_URI=

LICENSE=
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x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme
kde-base/oxygen-icons
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-08 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 8/8/11 2:52 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
   x11-themes/faenza-icon/theme )

nit: This is a typo, right? I guess repoman would still catch it, but
anyway.




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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-08 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 02 of August 2011 20:32:32 Samuli Suominen wrote:
 On 08/02/2011 09:20 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
  Hello fellow developers,
  
  I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
  for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
  pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
  be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
  create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.
  
  ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
  x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )
  
  --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
  missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
  include all the basic icons.
  
  [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309
  
  Thoughts?
 
 since whatever gets added to the virtual should be at least almost up to
 date with the spec, and provide the most common icons
 
 virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme for name, just my opinion...
 http://standards.freedesktop.org/ as HOMEPAGE
 freedesktop-b...@gentoo.org as maintainer

++

virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme is a better name IMHO as it's what this virtual 
icon theme actually is - theme compliant with freedesktop standard (so that 
can be used by applications claiming support like chromium, KDE, Gtk apps), 
not just some icon theme (as any instant messenger icon set would fall under 
some icon theme category for instance).

-- 
regards
MM


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-06 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 08/02/2011 07:30 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Markos Chandras schrieb:
 - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up
 with missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes
 should include all the basic icons.
 
 You could have USE flags for the virtual, so that some package could 
 depend on virtual/icon-theme[foo-icons], while the virtual depends
 on foo-icons? ( || ( list of packages known to contain foo-icons ) )
 
 Of course, this makes sense only if it is known or easy to find out 
 which icon-themes contain which icons.
 
 
 Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
 
 
I plan to go ahead with my proposal. I wont use any use flags for now.
Whoever feels this virtual is useful for him, he can use it, otherwise
you may skip it. I will send the virtual ebuild for review before I
commit it to portage tree.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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[gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Markos Chandras
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Hello fellow developers,

I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )

- --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
include all the basic icons.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309

Thoughts?

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

Markos Chandras schrieb:

- --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
include all the basic icons.


You could have USE flags for the virtual, so that some package could 
depend on virtual/icon-theme[foo-icons], while the virtual depends on 
foo-icons? ( || ( list of packages known to contain foo-icons ) )


Of course, this makes sense only if it is known or easy to find out 
which icon-themes contain which icons.



Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn




Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Alex Alexander
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 21:20, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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 Hello fellow developers,

 I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
 for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
 pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
 be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
 create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

 ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
 x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )

 - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
 missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
 include all the basic icons.

 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309

 Thoughts?

I like the idea, anything that makes things work out of the box
without sacrificing options is welcome :)

 - --
 Regards,
 Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/02/2011 09:20 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 Hello fellow developers,

 I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
 for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
 pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
 be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
 create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

 ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
 x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )

 --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
 missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
 include all the basic icons.

 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309

 Thoughts?


since whatever gets added to the virtual should be at least almost up to
date with the spec, and provide the most common icons

virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme for name, just my opinion...
http://standards.freedesktop.org/ as HOMEPAGE
freedesktop-b...@gentoo.org as maintainer





Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 08/02/2011 07:30 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Markos Chandras schrieb:
 - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
 missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
 include all the basic icons.
 
 You could have USE flags for the virtual, so that some package could
 depend on virtual/icon-theme[foo-icons], while the virtual depends on
 foo-icons? ( || ( list of packages known to contain foo-icons ) )
 
 Of course, this makes sense only if it is known or easy to find out
 which icon-themes contain which icons.
 
 
 Best regards,
 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
 
 
Don't you think that this is a bit overkill? Do you think that having
IUSE=ipod k3b quassel skype is better than having no use flags at all?
I personally dislike the idea since most icon themes ( oxygen, gnome,
lxde, faenza, xfce(?) ) provide pretty much the same icons.

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 8/2/11 11:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
 for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
 pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
 be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
 create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

www-client/chromium isn't going to take this train. I was thinking about
something similar a few months ago but it turned out to be more complex
(the icon set used depends on the running desktop environment).

Anyway, if it's useful for other packages sounds good to me.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2011-08-02 Thread Alex Alexander
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 21:48, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 8/2/11 11:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
 I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
 for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
 pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
 be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
 create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

 www-client/chromium isn't going to take this train. I was thinking about
 something similar a few months ago but it turned out to be more complex
 (the icon set used depends on the running desktop environment).

 Anyway, if it's useful for other packages sounds good to me.

When running a DE you usually have an icon set lying around, the
problem usually shows up when you run a simple WM with random apps on
top.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could
 instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine
 without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango)
 is there.

 Is it a requirement that more than one package should depend on it until
 we can extract a virtual? I think it would simplify managing the
 dependencies anyway.

This is very similar to when you want to add a global USE flag. In
that case we usually require 5 packages and a general non-specific
purpose. It can easily be translated to the present situation.

More practically I would say: use your brain. If you think it makes
sense then go for it.

Denis.



Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-13 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 4/11/10 9:54 PM, Petteri Räty wrote:
 On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
 What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?

 This would for example simplify the dependencies for
 www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:

 
 What other packages would make use of the virtual?

I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could
instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine
without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango)
is there.

Is it a requirement that more than one package should depend on it until
we can extract a virtual? I think it would simplify managing the
dependencies anyway.

Another question is, would the freedesktop herd want to maintain the
virtual?



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[gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-11 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?

This would for example simplify the dependencies for
www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:

|| (
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme
x11-themes/tango-icon-theme
x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme
)

Also, possibly other icon theme packages in the tree could be added to that.

The suggested description would be Virtual for desktop environments'
icon themes.

Suggested herd would be freedesktop.

What do you think?

Paweł Hajdan jr



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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
 What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?
 
 This would for example simplify the dependencies for
 www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:
 

What other packages would make use of the virtual?

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/icon-theme

2010-04-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
 What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?

 This would for example simplify the dependencies for
 www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:


 What other packages would make use of the virtual?


Theoretically, any package that currently depends on gnome-icon-theme
should be able to depend on that since all those themes follow the fdo
standard for icon naming.

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~Nirbheek Chauhan

Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team