Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/22/2012 02:29 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 22/10/12 03:52, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> Jauhien Piatlicki schrieb: >>> Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was >>> a separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does >>> not provide it as a separate package now (as far as I remember) >>> both firefox and thunderbird use there own libxul.so. >> >> That is not correct. Mozilla does provide xulrunner, released in >> sync with firefox versions: >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/ >> >> It was decided some time ago to remove xulrunner from Gentoo >> (bug 403415). > > Please note that I've helped with that bug only to get rid of the > ***ancient vulnerable*** copies of xulrunner from tree > > This is actually news to me that they ship separate xulrunner > still. > > The Gentoo mozilla@ members led me to believe it would need to be > splitted from Firefox instead -- and that webkit-gtk, webkit-qt, > spidermonkey, and npapi-sdk would serve the purpose instead. > > And well, indeed, we managed to convert into those by only > lastriting *one* ancient application from tree. > > But if there are still new applications out that still want to use > the actual libxul and co. I have no objections whatsoever in > reintroducing it with up-to-date version in tree. However, Gentoo > @mozilla team might disagree. > >> >>> It seems this is the same library (Or am I wrong?). So may be >>> it could be splitted into a separate package? (The reason is >>> its compilation takes a lot of time on week machines and >>> compiling it one time would be better than twice). Also as far >>> as I can see xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in >>> Debian and at least Iceweasel uses it. >> >> Building firefox, thunderbird or seamonkey against xulrunner is >> possible, but not a supported configuration by Mozilla. > > Upstreams know best. Not. Now after hearing all this, it seems the > mozilla team went wrong direction -- As in, instead of helping to > get rid of the old xulrunner from tree, I should have been putting > my time in adding the updated xulrunner to tree... > > A bit disappointing overall. > > - Samuli > > Goes to show you do not understand what you are talking about. The only way to use libxul from version 5 on would have been to provide a symlink into firefox/thunderbird/seamonkey as the system gre was killed. This prevents any clean upgrade path hense the removal. - -- - --- Jory A. Pratt Gentoo Linux: Developer, Mozilla Lead E-Mail : anar...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1846 8624 BD44 FDAC 96E2 3E9E 8BBF 7F40 9019 241D - --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQhUkEAAoJEIu/f0CQGSQdb2IH/2nNWRH+Cw7CjhXAupr5YJDy HPv1lztYJcWHdZ3JFAU5VoM+UMfkmBWq6iRh8/+w3KeJ3GsXFmvSyZK+1ovs+jF9 avetRXdhIRFhhy6eqKb4ry0yaoeNNpWHbY01w5peZUVwRPSNP5K1dNAKu9XnIxUl ygCP8Bj3Xx4yuV8GrQm3TZHRsUJfjLoqneg6gyA7wWRBky9hWTK1g0+CsLaFiQPc VzwcyOSGLPnOpZTg40y8rCGJA6g92lzFpe9nhReXnt8LnBD6dl79nlqbzpxGk7mZ YpENUq87VqLKvxtis+25hP4v/z/vxpFBDdRzi9e5AK2l2Pt9P3tXNVZSKThzHxQ= =SbQE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
On 22/10/12 03:52, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Jauhien Piatlicki schrieb: Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was a separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does not provide it as a separate package now (as far as I remember) both firefox and thunderbird use there own libxul.so. That is not correct. Mozilla does provide xulrunner, released in sync with firefox versions: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/ It was decided some time ago to remove xulrunner from Gentoo (bug 403415). Please note that I've helped with that bug only to get rid of the ***ancient vulnerable*** copies of xulrunner from tree This is actually news to me that they ship separate xulrunner still. The Gentoo mozilla@ members led me to believe it would need to be splitted from Firefox instead -- and that webkit-gtk, webkit-qt, spidermonkey, and npapi-sdk would serve the purpose instead. And well, indeed, we managed to convert into those by only lastriting *one* ancient application from tree. But if there are still new applications out that still want to use the actual libxul and co. I have no objections whatsoever in reintroducing it with up-to-date version in tree. However, Gentoo @mozilla team might disagree. It seems this is the same library (Or am I wrong?). So may be it could be splitted into a separate package? (The reason is its compilation takes a lot of time on week machines and compiling it one time would be better than twice). Also as far as I can see xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in Debian and at least Iceweasel uses it. Building firefox, thunderbird or seamonkey against xulrunner is possible, but not a supported configuration by Mozilla. Upstreams know best. Not. Now after hearing all this, it seems the mozilla team went wrong direction -- As in, instead of helping to get rid of the old xulrunner from tree, I should have been putting my time in adding the updated xulrunner to tree... A bit disappointing overall. - Samuli
Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
Jauhien Piatlicki schrieb: > Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was a > separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does not > provide it as a separate package now (as far as I remember) both > firefox and thunderbird use there own libxul.so. That is not correct. Mozilla does provide xulrunner, released in sync with firefox versions: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/ It was decided some time ago to remove xulrunner from Gentoo (bug 403415). > It seems this is the same library (Or am I wrong?). So may be it > could be splitted into a separate package? (The reason is its > compilation takes a lot of time on week machines and compiling it > one time would be better than twice). Also as far as I can see > xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in Debian and at > least Iceweasel uses it. Building firefox, thunderbird or seamonkey against xulrunner is possible, but not a supported configuration by Mozilla. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
On 21/10/2012 15:54, Jeff Horelick wrote: > If compile > times of mozilla products are annoying for you, feel free to try the > -bin variants instead (firefox-bin, thunderbird-bin, seamonkey-bin). Or complain with upstream enough so that they actually understand that xulrunner or at least a sharable libxul is extremely useful to distributions. But considering their stance on distributions in general I don't see that changing anytime soon. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
On 21 October 2012 18:14, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Hi, > May be a stupid question, but > Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was a > separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does not provide > it as a separate package now (as far as I remember) both firefox and > thunderbird use there own libxul.so. It seems this is the same library > (Or am I wrong?). So may be it could be splitted into a separate > package? (The reason is its compilation takes a lot of time on week > machines and compiling it one time would be better than twice). Also as > far as I can see xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in Debian > and at least Iceweasel uses it. > > Jauhien > AFAIK, building Firefox and Thunderbird (and let's throw Seamonkey in there while we're at it) against a shared libxul is considered unsupported by upstream, which is why we do not do it. If compile times of mozilla products are annoying for you, feel free to try the -bin variants instead (firefox-bin, thunderbird-bin, seamonkey-bin). The dependencies aren't too crazy, they work pretty well, they get stabilised at the exact same time as the source packages and I try to bump them as quickly as or quicker than the source builds.
[gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo
Hi, May be a stupid question, but Both firefox and thunderbird have xul library. Before there was a separate package xulrunner in the tree, but as Mozilla does not provide it as a separate package now (as far as I remember) both firefox and thunderbird use there own libxul.so. It seems this is the same library (Or am I wrong?). So may be it could be splitted into a separate package? (The reason is its compilation takes a lot of time on week machines and compiling it one time would be better than twice). Also as far as I can see xulrunner is splitted into a separate package in Debian and at least Iceweasel uses it. Jauhien signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
