Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-12 Thread Jakub Moc
 it does say make it an attachment if it's too long, but how long
 is too long?

8K characters (and bugzilla will actually send you to places where the
sun doesn't shine if you try to post something that exceeds this limit).


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:56:18 + (UTC)
Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even back before it became the in thing, I was posting emerge
 --info as attachments, because it simply fit the bill -- bugzy /says/
 to put long stuff as attachments.  I never did quite understand why
 all that admittedly often useful high-volume spew was tolerated in
 the bug comments themselves.

Personally I find it a lot easier to read a bug when the emerge --info
data from people is inline.  Frequently, the trigger for a bug becomes
apparent when you compare the emerge --info of the various people who
see a bug, and it's a moment's effort to scroll up and down the bug to
compare data.  This process takes longer if the info is in a bunch of
attachments.

[re. posting AT configs somewhere]
 I like the idea above, tho.  For ATs especially, having some place
 where emerge --info could be posted just once, with a link to it
 instead of the duplicated inline /or/ attachment, makes even more
 sense.  Presumably, where it's posted could have dated versions, too,
 allowing for updated flags without invalidating the info pointed to
 for older links.  If variation off the norm was needed or used for an
 individual package, that could be noted in the comments along with
 the link to the standard info.

I think the info changes frequently enough that it's easier, and more
likely to be correct, if it's posted to the bug at the time the report
is made.

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Kevin F. Quinn


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Thomas Cort
On 11 Aug 2006 00:00:00 +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer) wrote:

 Tach Jeroen,  0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)
 
 Jeroen Roovers schrieb:
  One solution might be to open your own AT bug, make the stabilisation
  bug depend on it, and use the AT bug to have ATs post their `emerge
  info`. Then, when testing and stabilisation is finished for your arch,
  close the AT bug and remove your alias from the stabilisation bug's CC
  list. I for one could live with this solution to the problem, which I
  hope you understand by now.
 
  This sounds quite interesting...maybe some arch devs should comment on  
 that.  The only problem I see is when two ATs test at the same time and  
 open two separate bugs for the same arch.  And another problem: Other  
 arches don't see the problems in the depending bug and are unlikely to  
 comment on it.

Besides the points you mentioned, it would create a lot of bug
spam. There would be the a new bug depends on this bug e-mail when
the AT files the bug, then there would be the a bug that depends on this
bug has changed state e-mail when the arch dev closes the AT's
bug, and then there would be the e-mail from the arch dev when he/she
comments on the original bug saying arch-xyz stable

-Thomas


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