Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
On 2021-07-13 07:20, Michał Górny wrote: Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects The title is too long (50 chars max AFAIR) Argh, and after all my attempts to keep this as short as possible while keeping this meaningful :-) Will think of something even shorter. Display-If-Installed: >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 Why not display it to users of all versions? Only people using 5.0.0+ will have to take any action on this so it feels like displaying it for all versions would needlessly bother users who are happy with PulseAudio. I like short but here it seems that you're skipping some essential details and having users guess. > Maybe start by explaining the current state [...] Makes sense, thanks! I'll revise this along the lines of your suggestions. Finally, tell explicitly what PA and PW users should do, and provide an example emerge snippet (do they need to deselect pulseeffects?). Right, they do need to deselect pulseeffects given it will almost certainly be in the world file, won't they. -- Marecki OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, Michał Górny wrote: >> Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects > The title is too long (50 chars max AFAIR) Heh. :) But yes, I say this every time, but either people don't read others' news item reviews, or they forget them very quickly. Ulrich signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, Marek Szuba wrote: > Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects Too long. https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0042.html#news-item-headers "Title: A short (maximum 50 characters) descriptive title." > Author: Marek Szuba > Posted: 2021-07-16 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > Display-If-Installed: >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 > In response to the upstream decision to rename PulseEffects to > EasyEffects we have decided to adopt the new name for versions only > supporting media-video/pipewire while retaining the old one for > versions allowing the use of media-sound/pulseaudio. I find this sentence hard to understand. Maybe it could be split up? Also, it might be helpful to explicitly say what are the old and new versions (>=6.0.0 or >=5.0.0?), especially when the dividing line is different from upstream's. > media-sound/easyeffects is already available in the tree, and all the > PipeWire-dependent ebuilds of media-sound/pulseeffects will be removed > in 7 days. Therefore, users of >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 are > asked to emerge media-sound/easyeffects instead. Ulrich signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 01:01 +0100, Marek Szuba wrote: > Officially the new name has only been in effect since version 6.0.0 but > having discussed this with prometheanfire on IRC, it makes sense to > extend the new name to >=5.0.0 - that way people not interested in > switching from plain PulseAudio to PipeWire can continue to use v4 > (which according to upstream is now in maintenance mode, i.e. hasn't > been EOLed yet) without having to mask v5 ebuilds. > > It 7 days feels like a reasonable time to wait before dropping > media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.4 from the tree because this news item will > continue to display for affected users even after the ebuild is gone, > won't it. > > > * * * > > > Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects The title is too long (50 chars max AFAIR) > Author: Marek Szuba > Posted: 2021-07-16 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > Display-If-Installed: >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 Why not display it to users of all versions? > > In response to the upstream decision to rename PulseEffects to > EasyEffects we have decided to adopt the new name for versions only > supporting media-video/pipewire while retaining the old one for versions > allowing the use of media-sound/pulseaudio. > > media-sound/easyeffects is already available in the tree, and all the > PipeWire-dependent ebuilds of media-sound/pulseeffects will be removed > in 7 days. Therefore, users of >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 are > asked to emerge media-sound/easyeffects instead. I like short but here it seems that you're skipping some essential details and having users guess. Maybe start by explaining the current state (I guess something like 'pulseeffects versions X use pulseaudio, while versions Y switched to pipewire'?). Then tell people that upstream has decided to rename the project to avoid ambiguity (?). Then make it clear that we are going to split the packages in Gentoo, and one will support PA and the other PW. Finally, tell explicitly what PA and PW users should do, and provide an example emerge snippet (do they need to deselect pulseeffects?). -- Best regards, Michał Górny
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
> On 13 Jul 2021, at 01:11, Sam James wrote: > > > >> On 13 Jul 2021, at 01:08, Marek Szuba wrote: >> >> On 2021-07-13 01:01, Marek Szuba wrote: >> >>> Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects >>> Author: Marek Szuba >>> Posted: 2021-07-16 >>> Revision: 1 >>> News-Item-Format: 2.0 >>> Display-If-Installed: >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 >>> In response to the upstream decision to rename PulseEffects to EasyEffects >>> we have decided to adopt the new name for versions only supporting >>> media-video/pipewire while retaining the old one for versions allowing the >>> use of media-sound/pulseaudio. >>> media-sound/easyeffects is already available in the tree, and all the >>> PipeWire-dependent ebuilds of media-sound/pulseeffects will be removed >>> in 7 days. Therefore, users of >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 are asked >>> to emerge media-sound/easyeffects instead. >> >> Looks like Thunderbird's somehow cocked up the line breaks in the first >> paragraph :-/ For the record, _this_ is what the news item looks like >> (modulo quote marks of course) in my text file. >> > > FWIW, using git send-mail on the gentoo-news repo avoids this ;) s/mail/email/ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: media-sound/pulseffects "renaming"
> On 13 Jul 2021, at 01:08, Marek Szuba wrote: > > On 2021-07-13 01:01, Marek Szuba wrote: > >> Title: PipeWire versions of PulseEffects are now media-sound/easyeffects >> Author: Marek Szuba >> Posted: 2021-07-16 >> Revision: 1 >> News-Item-Format: 2.0 >> Display-If-Installed: >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 >> In response to the upstream decision to rename PulseEffects to EasyEffects >> we have decided to adopt the new name for versions only supporting >> media-video/pipewire while retaining the old one for versions allowing the >> use of media-sound/pulseaudio. >> media-sound/easyeffects is already available in the tree, and all the >> PipeWire-dependent ebuilds of media-sound/pulseeffects will be removed >> in 7 days. Therefore, users of >=media-sound/pulseeffects-5.0.0 are asked to >> emerge media-sound/easyeffects instead. > > Looks like Thunderbird's somehow cocked up the line breaks in the first > paragraph :-/ For the record, _this_ is what the news item looks like (modulo > quote marks of course) in my text file. > FWIW, using git send-mail on the gentoo-news repo avoids this ;) best, sam signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP
