Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:33 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, For some time now, the idea of a Gentoo Knowledge Base, like RedHat [1] and Microsoft [2] do, has been brewing in Andrés Pereira and my minds. Not only that, but a feature request was also filed some time ago [3] and just recently a forum thread was started for it [4]. So, what is this about? A Knowledge Base provides answers to specific questions and problems that users (or developers) might encounter. It is easily searchable and maintained by developers who are knowledgeable in the topic. The knowledge base entries (topics as I like to call them) are not documentation guides, but very specific to a particular environment and question. They should leave absolutely *no* room for different interpretations. I think that sounds excellent and like it certainly could fill some gaps and be useful for users (and developers). -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, For some time now, the idea of a Gentoo Knowledge Base, like RedHat [1] and Microsoft [2] do, has been brewing in Andrés Pereira and my minds. Not only that, but a feature request was also filed some time ago [3] and just recently a forum thread was started for it [4]. So, what is this about? Why reinvent the wheel?!? Gentoo has a really nice wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page -- Kristian Gavran E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:17, Kristian Gavran wrote: Why reinvent the wheel?!? Because it's not the same thing, gentoo-wiki is not and can't be official, there are many things there that are totally unsupported. What Sven is proposing is (as far as I can see it) is something official and officially supported. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgpsIuW33padP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On 15:17 Wed 17 May , Kristian Gavran wrote: Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, For some time now, the idea of a Gentoo Knowledge Base, like RedHat [1] and Microsoft [2] do, has been brewing in Andrés Pereira and my minds. Not only that, but a feature request was also filed some time ago [3] and just recently a forum thread was started for it [4]. So, what is this about? Why reinvent the wheel?!? Gentoo has a really nice wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page As I said to Andrés yesterday, I think this is a good alternative. AFAIK, the Knowledge Base will be an official source of information (only developers will be able to post there) and that makes it more reliable - I'm not saying that wiki is not trustworthy though. Also, the KB will have specific answers for specific questions. That makes it a good place to redirect people asking certain stuff on IRC. -- Kristian Gavran E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- Pablo Antonio (AKA crazy2k) http://www.pablo-a.com.ar/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 03:17:33PM +0200, Kristian Gavran wrote: Why reinvent the wheel?!? Gentoo has a really nice wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page A wiki is more of a documentation system than a knowledge base. I think some KBs could very well employ a wiki as back-technology for writing the articles. But a KB is more strict in its writing: it can have a fixed layout (like title, synopsis, environment, analysis, solution [1]), allows for additional metadata (keywords, references to other articles, point-system per query, ...) and focuses more on its search technology than on the writing. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen [1] This is actually what I had in mind for the Gentoo KB -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org Gentoo Council Member The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org pgpWF5fj80AZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
Sven Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A Knowledge Base provides answers to specific questions and problems that users (or developers) might encounter. It is easily searchable and maintained by developers who are knowledgeable in the topic. The knowledge base entries (topics as I like to call them) are not documentation guides, but very specific to a particular environment and question. They should leave absolutely *no* room for different interpretations. I like it. It would be nice to be able to point someone to a doc or something when they file a bug about something they did wrong, and this sounds like it would fill that void. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpxbBF0qj8v3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On 2006.05.16 18:33, Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, [snip] I have started a project site for this at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kbase. [snip] -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org Gentoo Council Member The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org Sven, Your link gives me a 404 error Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
Roy Bamford wrote: I have started a project site for this at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kbase. [snip] Sven, Your link gives me a 404 error It works for me. Also, please don't reply twice to the list (you had the list address in To and CC). -- Andrew Gaffneyhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/ Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Project -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On 20:37 Tue 16 May , Roy Bamford wrote: On 2006.05.16 18:33, Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, [snip] I have started a project site for this at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kbase. [snip] -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org Gentoo Council Member The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org Sven, Your link gives me a 404 error This may sound silly but, are you sure you removed the last period there? The link works for me. Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list -- Pablo Antonio (AKA crazy2k) http://www.pablo-a.com.ar/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base
On 5/17/06, Pablo Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20:37 Tue 16 May , Roy Bamford wrote: On 2006.05.16 18:33, Sven Vermeulen wrote: Hi all, [snip] I have started a project site for this at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/kbase. [snip] -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org Gentoo Council Member The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org Sven, Your link gives me a 404 error This may sound silly but, are you sure you removed the last period there? The link works for me. It wasn't working the first two hours after the mail was sent, but after those two hours, it did. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list