Re: [gentoo-user] X sharing (OT?)
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 14:49, mathieu perrenoud wrote: > Hello, > I'm looking for a tool that would do with X11 windows something similar that > screen does with consoles. Something that would let me detach from windows > and re-attach to them from somewhere else. I don't want the overhead of > grabbing the whole desktop (like vnc). Is there something in portage? I dont know what you mean by "grabbing the whole desktop". If by that you mean that when you use vnc you have to spawn a new desktop (hence you cant use your old current one) then there is a solution for this. emerge gemsvnc. It is a vnc server which uses your current X session in effect behaving like screen for console. HTH. Regards, Vano. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What Happened to my disk space
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:41, Mike Williams wrote: > > Is it possible for me to steal 10 GB > > from the Windows partition and give it to Linux? > > Partition Magic (costly windows program), the tools in sys-fs/ntfsprogs, and > parted should be able to do what you need, but it depends on which partitions > windows and linux are on. > Just a note about parted. I used it a few days ago to resize an ntfs partition (main windows xp installation partition). I think I did everything correctly (defragmented the ntfs partition from within windows, and resized the partition using parted from within knoppix), but to my great disappointment windows would no longer boot under grub. Looks like the ntfs boot header part got messed up. I don't know what are other people's experiences with parted, and actually I would like to know what other people thing and if possible what did I do wrong. Anyhow I feel parted should be used with a lot of caution as with all these partition modifying utilities. Regards, Vano. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firewall
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 06:17, Chris wrote: > i noticed that there are a few firewalls in portage which do you recogmend? For what it's worth and for a different answer ;) I have recently tried rc.firewall (http://projectfiles.com/firewall/) and I really really liked it. It is only one file which you run from your /etc/conf.d/local.start. The good thing that I liked apart from it being only one script file is that it is *dead* easy to setup and run. All I had to do was fill a one line config variable and I was set. I went this route because at that moment I needed a firewall ASAP and didn't have time to even look at configuration files. Now I have it running on 4 machines without any problems so far. I recommend it at least as an option. [disclaimer: I never got to try shorewall] -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh timeouts
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:43, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:39:27PM -0400, Nathaniel wrote: > > Are you using a linksys router? There is a known bug with linksys > > routers and ssh. > > I'm using a SpeedTouch Pro ADSL modem. Funny I came across this because I am having the same problem since my old router (an old Alcatel) decided it was time to kick the bucket. Now I have a Thomson (which is made by Alcatel and I believe it is a continuation of their SpeedTouch routers) which keeps on losing ssh connections every x minutes. I haven't really timed it, but it is less than 10 minutes for sure. Another observation is that if I have an ssh connection from a remote box to this one, it will not time out. >From my experience, looks like it is a router related issue that for some reason it drops connections which dont look too alive. I will be trying out the keepalive thingie or one of those ssh patches and see what happens. -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorting already existing mail into folders?
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 20:10, Bryan Traywick wrote: > cd path/to/dir/new > for file in *; do > procmail < $file > done > > That should resort your mail using your new procmail recipes. I used these > same steps to resort my mail and it worked fine. Hope that helps :) > > > Much appreciated. > > Dhruba Bandopadhyay. > > > > P.S. postfix, procmail, courier-imap in use Just for the sake of completeness in the thread and because I am also looking for a similar solution does anyone know how can this same thing be done but using maildrop instead of procmail? maildrop in delivery mode should be called as "maildrop -d " Any ideas? Thanks -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal Gentoo install
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 18:01, Prabhat Gupta wrote: > > > >You'll be lucky to get XFree and KDE compiled and configured on those old > >machines within 24 hours even if you have no problems. > > > >Puggy > > > > > > > > :(( ~ ~ ~ > What is wrong with compiling your system under chroot in a fast box and then rsync -a it to your slower machine? I have also tarred whole system and transferred them to slower machines.. all ok You basically untar the stagex file to a dir on the fast machine, set the compile flags in /etc/make.conf so it is a pentium, bootstrap it, emerge whatever you want and even configure the whole thing, then chroot out of the dir, either use rsync -a to copy the system dir to the / of the slow machine, or use tar to create a tarball or tar it over the network. Cheers, -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Convert ext3 to reiserfs
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 11:09, Finne Boonen wrote: > just wonderign, wouldn't tar.bz files not keep your attributes? This is the tar line in a script I use to make backups of the whole system once in a while (I know, I need a better backup system). I have tried restoring and the whole system comes back ok. So it deffinitely works :) tar cjpf - / --exclude=usr/portage/distfiles/* --exclude=tmp/* --exclude=/proc/* --exclude=/.journal | split -b 640m - /tmp/gentoo-system-`date +"%Y%m%d"`- Note that I split the thing into 640 megs so I can store it into a CDROM and that I make the filename with the date extension. You can obviously switch the 'j' option with the 'z' option or simply none for no compression. Whatever you do keep the 'p' which preserves file attributes and what not. You also need the 'p' while untarring, as stated in the Gentoo install docs. BTW, "/.journal" is the ext3 journal file which should not be copied (as stated somewhere in the man pages of something... dont remember now). Cheers, -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-on-slow-computers mini-howto [was: gentooin a p100[?]]
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 12:04, Florian Huber wrote: > If you want to use gentoo, you should "precompile" everything in a > chroot on a faster computer and copy an image to the p100. > > 1.) create a directory > mkdir /root/chroot [...] > 14.) leave the chroot and reboot and in theory everything should work > fine now :) > > No guarantee that it will work... > Maybe I forgot something, but I already did this way of installation > twice and it worked _for me_. It would be interesting to know how you maintain the system. I imagine a good idea would be to use distcc, but I wonder how effective could it be. I myself am interested in installing a firewall/dns on a P120/32Mb... I have debian ready on a CD. But would like it to be Gentoo if I can maintain it in reasonably later on. Greets. -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
> > > > The portage tree isnt that big... it's about 90 megs. > > > > I think he means the source packages as well. I actually meant the /usr/portage/ directory without the distfiles dir :-) I don't know why I thought it was bigger than 90 megs. Still, 90 megs is big but good news is that compression will probably make that much smaller. -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
Hi there, More than an installer from scratch, what would be really usefull would be a simple script (can be done in a few hours, but it would be nice to have it included for people who already know Gentoo) to install the base system *post stage3*. That is, the system logger and the rest of the "basic" stuff asking the user for which choice of software. Nearly everybody needs a system logger, so this has to be installed along with other very basic software (vim ? :). Really what I am talking about is a basic software installer for essential ebuilds needed for a normal system. Mainly to speed of admin work for people who know Gentoo. This will avoid admins to try to remember what needs to be installed and to make them go check the install docs everytime (Yes. It is easy to remember all the pre stage3 stuff to do, but not the rest. I once forgot to install a system logger as a matter of fact :-) -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
> I'll tell you why I like the GRP. I like gentoo a lot as a distribution. There > is one disadvantage in gentoo. It takes a lot of time until the system has > compiled all packages that make it usable for work. Some time ago I got a > computer to work from at a company that participates in my research project. > Of course I installed gentoo there. But I do have something better to do with > my time then waiting for all compilation to be finished. That's why I got a > cd with the GRP. I started with installing kde and mozilla (+deps) from the > CD. From that moment on I could work. Of course As soon as I ran my desktop I > started to emerge the packages according to my preferences, and get recent > versions. But I didn't need to wait looking at the compile progress while it > was busy. This was a pentium two, so getting to a useable state without the > GRP would have taken me a lot of time (at least 24 hours). This is why it would be a superb idea for Gentoo to adopt something like Knoppix. What I would really love to see is a "Knoppix Gentoo" where the whole base is a Gentoo system with portage and all (probably not with the portage tree as this can be huge, but then again the CD is compressed so maybe it is not too much space). With a Knoppix Gentoo you can pop in the CD and have a complete working system at your disposal in 30 seconds with the ability to install Gentoo on the background or even copy the whole system (or sets of it with some portage magic) to the HD. There can also be the possibility to have different Knoppix Gentoo CDs for different architectures (CFLAGS) and even the possibility to have different tastes with different sets of apps. Even better, a program or sctipt which would let someone easily create Knoppix Gentoo CDs. The Gentoo LiveCD is a nice attempt, but, really, Knoppix is something else :-) It might be a nice idea to gear GRP towards a live system. After all, GRP and Koppix are both compressed, so what is the difference between packages on a CD and a compressed live CD other than the "live" factor? Ok. Enough of asking and dreaming for now. -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
> Seems to me the spirit of Gentoo is not to 'compete' with redhat or any other distribution. > > Being more a meta-distribution allows the user to control what they have on > there machine. That and the portage systems keeps my machine up to date with > the software I choose to install. It also allows me to avoid rpm dependency > nightmares. (Anyone remember what it was like installing Xine on RedHat?) > > > If a company can not understand those issues, (Linux != RedHat) they should > stick with Redhat, and more power to them. But to expect Gentoo to become > like RedHat seems to me a way of limiting choice. > > Educate the companies.. do not dumb down Gentoo! Anyway it is always possible that a third company picks up Gentoo and aims it for the corporate world, as in Gentoo-Enterprise or some such. For some reason Gentoo is a meta-distribution as you said. This implies that people can build specific distributions out of the current system. I am still wondering why nobody has done this. It seems like a great idea. You have the base, free, completely non-commercial oriented meta-distro Gentoo, and then you have other companies offer specialized versions aimed at different sectors. It is a win-win situation. -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package management for non-ebuild software
> > I use stow, never heard of epkg before, can you elucidate on the > > differences between them, or perchance why epkg is a better choice? > > Why just not write an ebuild. Often even the skel ebuild just works with your > package, and you just need to add the url. (/usr/portage/skel.ebuild) > > It is really easy to write ebuilds, and if you made some mistake you can often > just go on where you left after correcting the problem. I have been wondering a lot lately whether it is possible to have a mechanism in Portage to install software which just requires a configure, make, make install. We know that usually using the skel.ebuild is enough. Probably we could add a feature to emerge so one would "emerge --custom some_source" and Portage would untar into the work dir the file /usr/portate/distfiles/some_source-2.9.tar.gz (or other extensions etc..) and would carry out a simple skel.ebuild (or we could have 2 or 3 other variations if the first one or two fail to compile). It would then enter into the Portage database as "custom.some_source-2.9" or with some other prefix so Portage knows it is a "special ebuild" (as in there is no ebuild.) It doesn't look too hard to implement such a feature. What do you people think? -- Vano D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ext3 data=journal + OpenOffice.org
Hi all Gentooers, It seems that since, a little while ago, I switched to data=journal on my ext3 partitions (the whole Gentoo system) OpenOffice.org is a *lot* more sluggish than before. Infact it didn't used to be sluggish, but ran rather smoothly. Everytime I launch OpenOffice.org and load a simple 6 page word document with only text it takes quite a long while to start. When it loads up, If I want to scroll through the document it becomes so clunky that I have to wait a few seconds for the screen to update and the HD thrashing like hell. This happens everytime I want to scroll up and down on the same document. Any ideas if this is due to data=journal and OpenOffice.org not getting well along (mabye because of the way OO handles its own swap?). Incidentally I have an AMD Thunderbird 900Mhz with 756 Mb and a fast 7200 HD. Thanks all. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
