Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Jaroslaw Rzepecki
Hi!
  You do need a plug adapter and you do not need voltage converter if your 
ac adapter runs on both 110V and 220V (it should be written on a ac 
adapter)
Cheers
Jarek


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Scott Carmichael
After searching and searching and searching, I finally found one internet
cafe in Paris, and it doesn't seem to me that it had laptop stations...
just about 100 PCs you could get on the internet with. Haven't been to
Rome yet, so I don't know if it's different there... but yeah, Paris
didn't seem too well connected.. Amsterdam on the other hand, had quite a
few cafes, and my hostel even had wireless internet.

I think too all you'll need is the plug convertor... check the AC adapter
piece on your cord, should specify if it can handle 50Hz and 220 Volts.

//  Scott Carmichael - http://jobe.ca/


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 Anyone on this list gone to Europe w/ a laptop?  Going to Italy and
 France.  I have an IBM T30.  I know I'll need a plug adapter, but don't
 know if I need a voltage converter.   I don't think so, but thought I
 better check.  And, if anyone's used an internet cafe in Paris or
 Rome, charges?  Thanks for any information.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Chris I
On 2003.08.24 22:10, Scott Carmichael wrote:
After searching and searching and searching, I finally found one
internet
cafe in Paris, and it doesn't seem to me that it had laptop
stations...
just about 100 PCs you could get on the internet with. Haven't been to
Rome yet, so I don't know if it's different there... but yeah, Paris
didn't seem too well connected.. Amsterdam on the other hand, had
quite a
few cafes, and my hostel even had wireless internet.
I recently drove across Canada, and had a very hard time finding 
internet cafe's that provided wired _or_ wireless access for laptops. 
However, I had a fairly decent time finding open wireless access 
points. Of course you have to consider that (a) these people don't know 
what their doing, or (b) are very kind, so I tried to be as light on 
bandwidth as possible.

I had luck in cities like Thunder Bay, Sault Ste. Marie, etc. I'm not 
extremely familiar with wifi adoption in europe (assuming it to be 
about the same or better than here), and they might even use the same 
radio frequency, so in the case that you _need_ an internet connection, 
theres always that option.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Bryan Feir
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:47:10AM -0400, Chris I wrote:
 I recently drove across Canada, and had a very hard time finding 
 internet cafe's that provided wired _or_ wireless access for laptops. 
 However, I had a fairly decent time finding open wireless access 
 points. Of course you have to consider that (a) these people don't know 
 what their doing, or (b) are very kind, so I tried to be as light on 
 bandwidth as possible.

   Downtown Toronto actually has a lot of public wireless access points,
many of them marked and advertised as such.  Of course, with a banker
and coffee shop density as high as it is in Toronto, you kind of need
that sort of access.  You do have to have an account with one of the
providers to use it legally, of course.

   Actually, in Canada there's recently been an agreement between the
four different wireless providers to co-operate in setting up such 'hot
spots' so that no matter which provider you're with, you can use any of
the hot spots around to hook up to the net.  Was in the _Globe and Mail_
a few days ago.

   From some of what I've heard, most parts of Europe have their networks
publicly owned still, so within a single country it should be fairly
consistent.  No idea on how well that would work travelling between
countries, though.

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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Gwendolyn van der Linden
From some of what I've heard, most parts of Europe have
 their networks
 publicly owned still, so within a single country it should be fairly
 consistent.  No idea on how well that would work travelling between
 countries, though.

Phone jacks and 220V plugs are typically different between European
countries...  IIRC in some cases different countries use the same
jack, but wire it differently!  You can get a travel kit at a good
(European?) electronics store, or at an electronics store at an
airport.

I would expect you can find publically accessible (privately hosted)
WiFi hotspots at all major European cities.  But, again, regulations
concerning WiFi are different between European countries.  They differ
in channels allowed, licensing, and if you are allowed to use it
outside of a building (as if the radio waves will stop at the
walls...).

Any Italians or French out on this list?

Gwendolyn.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Andrea Gagliardi
Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:

   From some of what I've heard, most parts of Europe have
their networks
publicly owned still, so within a single country it should be fairly
consistent.  No idea on how well that would work travelling between
countries, though.



Phone jacks and 220V plugs are typically different between European
countries...  IIRC in some cases different countries use the same
jack, but wire it differently!  You can get a travel kit at a good
(European?) electronics store, or at an electronics store at an
airport.

I would expect you can find publically accessible (privately hosted)
WiFi hotspots at all major European cities.  But, again, regulations
concerning WiFi are different between European countries.  They differ
in channels allowed, licensing, and if you are allowed to use it
outside of a building (as if the radio waves will stop at the
walls...).

Any Italians or French out on this list?

Gwendolyn.


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An italian here.
You're right about plug madness, I'm back from a long trip to Amsterdam,
Copenaghen, Stockholm, Helsinki ... and I found my plug converter very
useful. About hotspots I'm not very usefull because of my GPRS internal
modem which works perfectly all around europe at a reasonable speed. In
italy it's quite rare to find free hotspots but you can find some
internet cafè in major cities.
When you are in Verona I'll give you some of our 2Mbit for free (only to
gentoo people of course).
All this because here you can join one of many internet providers for
free and pay just the phone call so internet cafè is not a business
anymore and, you know, italian people doesn't consider a lot all the
services young people travelling have.

Ciao

Andrea

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