[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Sunday 12 March 2006 01:20, Walter Dnes wrote: Why in (diety's) name does the the average user need apache2? Or emboss (European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite)? After the ipv6 fiasco, I began USE with -*, like so... I think we are seeing a misinterpretation/bug. Apache2 flag is supposed to make the system able to decide wether to install apache1 or apache2, not to pull it in as if it was used to choose between I want apache and I don't wont it apache2 flag description: Chooses Apache2 support when a package supports both Apache1 and Apache2 Let me stress the fact that there are 3 apache? flags: apache apache1 apache2 Despite actual behaviour (and description) I think that logically it should work this way: * apache: install apache webserver support when optionally provided * apache1: chooses apache1 version when a package can support apache1 and apache2; needs apache flag * apache2: see above, mutatis mutandis. Let me know your opinion. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.15-gentoo-r7, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Fri Mar 3 22:56:17 CET 2006 One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4415.87 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 04:13:27PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: I'm having a problem with dvdrip. I emerged it and when I try to run it it just says: [filterlist] (re)scanning transcode's module path /usr/lib/transcode... but it never actually does anything. That message will stay there for indefinitely until I kill it. It doesn't give a gui or anything. Is there a way to fix this? Or, is there an alternative way to rip/create a dvd to remove the stupid region codes? I actually get the same thing when I run it (mostly stable x86, some ~x86). Emerging the ~x86 version and got the same thing :( A couple of options. - dvdbackup, dvd9to5 and lxdvdrip seem to work nicely enough - I've heard that dvdshrink (windows software) will run properly under wine. Put in dvdshrink into a forums.gentoo.org search to get more details (I haven't done this myself). Alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net Backups are for people who don't pray. -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? Regards, and thanks, MC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bind Questions...
Hi All,
I am facing one problem. Here is a message log from server1(Master DNS) and server2(Slave DNS) on domain guru.com
=SERVER1.GURU.COM===
Mar 12 15:40:57 server1 kernel: Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c0366c20(lo)
Mar 12 15:40:57 server1 network: Bringing up loopback interface: succeeded
Mar 12 15:40:57 server1 kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
Mar 12 15:41:00 server1 network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named[2760]: shutting down: flushing changes
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named[2760]: stopping command channel on 127.0.0.1#953
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named[2760]: no longer listening on 127.0.0.1#53
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named[2760]: no longer listening on 192.168.0.2#53
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named[2760]: exiting
Mar 12 15:41:57 server1 named: succeeded
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: starting BIND 9.2.4 -u named -t /var/named/chroot
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: using 1 CPU
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named: named startup succeeded
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf'
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0, 192.168.0.2#53
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: zone 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 0
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 0
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: zone guru.com/IN: loaded serial 0
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: zone localhost/IN: loaded serial 0
Mar 12 15:41:59 server1 named[3042]: running
Mar 12 15:47:08 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1027: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:47:09 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1028: transfer of 'guru.com/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:47:56 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1029: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:48:08 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1030: transfer of 'guru.com/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:49:53 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1031: transfer of 'guru.com/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:49:55 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1032: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:53:00 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1033: transfer of 'guru.com/IN': AXFR started
Mar 12 15:53:46 server1 named[3042]: client 192.168.0.3#1034: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN': AXFR started
=END
=SERVER2.GURU.COM===
Mar 12 15:38:06 server2 named[2881]: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Mar 12 15:38:06 server2 named[2881]: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: end of transfer
Mar 12 15:38:07 server2 named[2881]: dumping master file: tmp-8In1Va: open: permission denied
Mar 12 15:38:07 server2 named[2881]: transfer of 'guru.com/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Mar 12 15:38:07 server2 named[2881]: transfer of 'guru.com/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: end of transfer
Mar 12 15:38:07 server2 kernel: audit(1142158087.021:0): avc: denied { write } for pid=2882 exe=/usr/sbin/named name=named dev=dm-0 ino=622131 scontext=root:system_r:named_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:named_zone_t tclass=dir
Mar 12 15:38:53 server2 named[2881]: dumping master file: tmp-U7SDSa: open: permission denied
Mar 12 15:38:53 server2 named[2881]: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Mar 12 15:38:53 server2 named[2881]: transfer of '0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: end of transfer
Mar 12 15:38:53 server2 kernel: audit(1142158133.521:0): avc: denied { write } for pid=2882 exe=/usr/sbin/named name=named dev=dm-0 ino=622131 scontext=root:system_r:named_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:named_zone_t tclass=dir
Mar 12 15:39:05 server2 named[2881]: dumping master file: tmp-HYCIDL: open: permission denied
Mar 12 15:39:05 server2 named[2881]: transfer of 'guru.com/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Mar 12 15:39:05 server2 named[2881]: transfer of 'guru.com/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: end of transfer
Mar 12 15:39:05 server2 kernel: audit(1142158145.520:0): avc: denied { write } for pid=2882 exe=/usr/sbin/named name=named dev=dm-0 ino=622131 scontext=root:system_r:named_t tcontext=system_u:object_r:named_zone_t tclass=dir
Mar 12 15:40:51 server2 named[2881]: dumping master file: tmp-YRYrFA: open: permission denied
Mar 12 15:40:51 server2 named[2881]: transfer of 'guru.com/IN' from 192.168.0.2#53: failed while receiving responses: permission denied
Mar 12 15:40:51 server2
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: [SOLVED] reiserfschk stops boot but reports nothing
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:14:51 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: Do you want to run this program?[N/Yes] (note need to type Yes if you do): yes enter Oh yes, Ryan was not splitting hairs. Yes must be entered just like it asks. Capital Y e s. Yup and whatever the problem was it was fixed on the first pass. Thanks for the help thinking... It seems like that requirement for upper case Y is probably a (not very serious) bug I disagree - remember that UNIX in general is case-sensitive, and the program does specify the usage of Yes... ;) Anyway, glad I could help. Agree 100%. Reiser makes it this way intentionally. Some reiserfsck commands can really do damage since they are last resort try and fix my partition commands that attempt to reindex the entire drive. Any disruption to THAT type of process will hose it. So typing Y e s is an extra precaution to make sure that's exactly what you want done. And, since your problem was fixed easily probably indicates it was not unmounted cleanly. Glad to hear you're back up and running. -- Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help With vhost.conf apache2
Haim, Thanks for the help. That is now working :-D Haim Ashkenazi wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:33 +, Tito Valentin wrote: Hello All, I am trying to get apache to work with a few vhost. The problem is that when I hit www.domain.com it shows the apache page rather than the actual site. In order for me to be able to view the site I have to type www.domain.dom/folder and then the site comes up. Here is what I have done so far with the vhost.conf files: Apache2 on Gentoo /etc/apache2/httpd.conf Include vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf Include vhosts.d/01_my_domain_vhost.conf /etc/conf.d/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST (plus ssl and other) /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf Default file with new domain information. /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_my_domain_vhost.conf VirtualHost www.my_domain.com ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs/parknorthcondos DirectoryIndex index.php index.html ServerName www.my_domain.com ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/vhosts/my_domain_error_log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/vhosts/my_domain_access_log common /VirtualHost HI you have to have NameVirtualHost *:80 before the first virtual host. then the VirtualHost directive should be as follow: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName www.mydomain.com ... /VirtualHost you have to do the same with ':443' if you want SSL virtual hosts. the above instructions are for VirtualHosts running on the same IP. if you want to run each virtual host on a separate IP you have to discard the 'NameVirtualHost' directive and replace the '*' with ipaddress in the 'VirtualHost' directive. Bye I just want to be able to hit www.my_domain.com and able to see my site instead of the apache splash page. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tito -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] diskless machine
Stefan Istvan wrote: Hello! I've tried to setup a diskless environment based on this howto: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml When the client starts booting and try to download the kernel, it says that it is not a valid image. Why? Thank you for your help in advance, Istvan The kernel image specified in the config file is invalid. Thats all we can say based on the information you gave. You might want to google around on the topic of smart questions. You will want to provide error messages, config files and system descriptions with your questions, along with information of what you already have tried to fix the problems yourself. Help your helpers help you:) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache (paths not showing in url)
Hello All, Does anyone know why when I go to my website and click on the links within my site the url still stays the same? For example: if I go to www.my_web_site.com and click on the link messages within my site, the url is still www.my_web_site.com rather than www.my_web_site.com/phpbb/messages Thanks, Tito -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] remote rsync
Hi all, I am trying to rsync to a remote server with the command: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test but I get the following error messages: ssh: connect to host lkd5f port 22: Connection refused rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434) 2 questions 1. Should this command work? 2. How do I prevent port 22 from refusing the connection? I am a complete dunce with anything to do with remote machines so any help will be greatly received Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Marco Calviani schreef: Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? No. Gentoo's stable and testing refers to the /ebuilds/, not the packages. I'm not a dev, but from my experience, if upstream (the developers of a particular package) release the package, then it is considered to be 'stable' (insofar as it's releaseable, and Gentoo does not include betas or development versions in the Portage tree). However, the ebuild script that allows the package to compile on Gentoo may contain errors, so it must be tested. That is what ~ARCH is about; making sure the provided ebuild compiles the source of the application correctly and successfully with relationship to the rest of a Gentoo system. ~ARCH packages/ebuilds are normally tested for (30? 90?) days, after which time if no bugs are filed, they generally move into stable. It is hoped that users who use ~ARCH are willing to file or comment on bugs on bugs.gentoo.org (b.g.o). The system only works if everybody helps. If a package itself contains serious errors (fairly easily discerned from a filed bug whether the problem is the ebuild or the package), you'll see it getting hard-masked pretty darn quick (that's what hard-masking is for/about-- it generally means the package itself is broken), while we wait for upstream to fix whatever is wrong. While 'testing' is just that, and therefore not specifically 'stable', in practice testing usually is pretty stable (all problems I've had I've been able to overcome myself, despite not being a developer or any kind of programmer who understands deeply what's actually going on). However, sometimes testing does expose upstream bugs that cause the package to break (or break on your system), so ultimately, it's not safe (as in safe as houses), but it's not like it's usually risking your system stability in a major way (i.e., you can't boot, or the system fails to operate, etc.) HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remote rsync
Paul, You could try it like this: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test -e ssh lkd5f:/test Also, make sure that your other machine allows you to connect via ssh ...hope this helps Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I am trying to rsync to a remote server with the command: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test but I get the following error messages: ssh: connect to host lkd5f port 22: Connection refused rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434) 2 questions 1. Should this command work? 2. How do I prevent port 22 from refusing the connection? I am a complete dunce with anything to do with remote machines so any help will be greatly received Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache (paths not showing in url)
Hi, On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:20:38 -0500 Tito Valentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know why when I go to my website and click on the links within my site the url still stays the same? For example: if I go to www.my_web_site.com and click on the link messages within my site, the url is still www.my_web_site.com rather than www.my_web_site.com/phpbb/messages that happens if frames are being used. Do you use frames? It's most probably NOT due to apache. I've seen this with some free domain providers, they only open your page in a static frameset (that cares for displaying some ads, too). What's showing if you chose show page source in your browser? A frameset or your page? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remote rsync
On Sunday 12 Mar 2006 13:06, Tito Valentin wrote: Paul, You could try it like this: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test -e ssh lkd5f:/test Also, make sure that your other machine allows you to connect via ssh ...hope this helps I tried it as you suggested but get the same errors. I thought ssh was used by default. How do I check if the remote machine allows ssh? Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I am trying to rsync to a remote server with the command: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test but I get the following error messages: ssh: connect to host lkd5f port 22: Connection refused rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434) 2 questions 1. Should this command work? 2. How do I prevent port 22 from refusing the connection? I am a complete dunce with anything to do with remote machines so any help will be greatly received Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remote rsync
Does the machine belong to you? If so check if sshd is running like ps -eaf | grep ssh If not, you may need to check with the Admin of the machine. Also, your ip might be listed in the /etc/hosts.deny files to reject any unrecognized ip's. You might need to be added to the hosts.allow. You already know you can't get in because the error is telling you so. You need to find out why. If the machine belongs to you then try what I suggested if not then contact the person who does if that is possible. Paul Stear wrote: On Sunday 12 Mar 2006 13:06, Tito Valentin wrote: Paul, You could try it like this: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test -e ssh lkd5f:/test Also, make sure that your other machine allows you to connect via ssh ...hope this helps I tried it as you suggested but get the same errors. I thought ssh was used by default. How do I check if the remote machine allows ssh? Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I am trying to rsync to a remote server with the command: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test but I get the following error messages: ssh: connect to host lkd5f port 22: Connection refused rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434) 2 questions 1. Should this command work? 2. How do I prevent port 22 from refusing the connection? I am a complete dunce with anything to do with remote machines so any help will be greatly received Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Hi Holly, and thanks for your clear explanation, Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? No. Gentoo's stable and testing refers to the /ebuilds/, not the packages. Well, that was my fault in explaining. i was referring to versions of a particular package I'm not a dev, but from my experience, if upstream (the developers of a particular package) release the package, then it is considered to be 'stable' (insofar as it's releaseable, and Gentoo does not include betas or development versions in the Portage tree). However, the ebuild script that allows the package to compile on Gentoo may contain errors, so it must be tested. That is what ~ARCH is about; making sure the provided ebuild compiles the source of the application correctly and successfully with relationship to the rest of a Gentoo system. ~ARCH packages/ebuilds are normally tested for (30? 90?) days, after which time if no bugs are filed, they generally move into stable. It is hoped that users who use ~ARCH are willing to file or comment on bugs on bugs.gentoo.org (b.g.o). The system only works if everybody helps. At the root of my question there was the need to understand why kde 3.5.1 packages are still testing even if there aren't critical bugs at bugs.gentoo.org (as far as i was able to find...). However, many thanks, Regards, MC -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache (paths not showing in url)
Hans, It is showing a framset in my page when I view page source. How would I be able to correct this? If I hit the test site I can see all the paths but when I host it live I CANNOT see the paths in the url. Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:20:38 -0500 Tito Valentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know why when I go to my website and click on the links within my site the url still stays the same? For example: if I go to www.my_web_site.com and click on the link messages within my site, the url is still www.my_web_site.com rather than www.my_web_site.com/phpbb/messages that happens if frames are being used. Do you use frames? It's most probably NOT due to apache. I've seen this with some free domain providers, they only open your page in a static frameset (that cares for displaying some ads, too). What's showing if you chose show page source in your browser? A frameset or your page? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remote rsync
On Sunday 12 Mar 2006 13:30, Tito Valentin wrote: Does the machine belong to you? If so check if sshd is running like ps -eaf | grep ssh If not, you may need to check with the Admin of the machine. Also, your ip might be listed in the /etc/hosts.deny files to reject any unrecognized ip's. You might need to be added to the hosts.allow. snip I should have said before . The machine is not a machine as such it is a Network Storage Link for USB 2.0 disk drives. The disks are formatted ext3 and windows identifies the unit as a windows NT 4.9 server !!! All I want to do is copy files from my gentoo box to the usb disk via the network. I have tried mounting the disks using cifs but this produced alot of errors, I feel that a direct connection command would be best. In KDE I can copy files using Konqueror to lan://pc2/ which shows my device.homenet.com. If I then click on the device I get 3 icons NFS SMB HTTP If I click on SMB the location changes to smb://device.homenet.com and I can copy any files I want - even links seem to work I'm sure there must be a simple answer to this Paul Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I am trying to rsync to a remote server with the command: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test but I get the following error messages: ssh: connect to host lkd5f port 22: Connection refused rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(434) 2 questions 1. Should this command work? 2. How do I prevent port 22 from refusing the connection? I am a complete dunce with anything to do with remote machines so any help will be greatly received Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
060312 Marco Calviani wrote: At the root of my question there was the need to understand why kde 3.5.1 packages are still testing even if there aren't critical bugs at bugs.gentoo.org My experience is that the Gentoo KDE devs are rather conservative tend to leave versions in 'testing' a bit longer than necessary. I've been using 3.5.1 for about 2 weeks without any problems before that 3.5.0 from the beginning of January ditto. I trust KDE not to release a version with serious bugs, but otherwise do avoid 'testing' versions of critical packages, eg Portage: not long ago, there was a serious bug in the 'testing' Bash 3.0 , which was quickly fixed, but caused a few people real trouble. While KDE is my usual desktop manager, it isn't critical to my system, as I have Fluxbox installed too could switch to that in an emergency. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reasons for testing or stable of kde packages
Marco Calviani schreef: Hi Holly, and thanks for your clear explanation, Hi list, i would like to have clarification regarding the policy of switching packages from testing to stable. Is this policy due to particular bugs in the packages? No. Gentoo's stable and testing refers to the /ebuilds/, not the packages. Well, that was my fault in explaining. i was referring to versions of a particular package ~ARCH packages/ebuilds are normally tested for (30? 90?) days, after which time if no bugs are filed, they generally move into stable. It is hoped that users who use ~ARCH are willing to file or comment on bugs on bugs.gentoo.org (b.g.o). The system only works if everybody helps. At the root of my question there was the need to understand why kde 3.5.1 packages are still testing even if there aren't critical bugs at bugs.gentoo.org (as far as i was able to find...). Possibly because KDE is a huge suite of interrelated packages, /all/ of which must be 'stable' (in ebuild terms) so that users who have expectations of what 'stable' means will be satisfied (especially for those who run ARCH and do not use ~ARCH packages). This may be why it takes a longer time for Gentoo to move all of those packages into ARCH; a single package is obviously easier to test than the many split ebuilds that KDE contains, especially when varied combinations are involved. I recognize that 'stable' users value... stability... over the latest and greatest, and that's fine. But it always annoys me somewhat when users then 'complain' about 'the latest and greatest' not being moved into stable in a timely (in their opinion) fashion. Either one wants guaranteed stability, or one is willing to possibly sacrifice some of that stability for new features or cool factor or whatever. The choice, like most things, Gentoo, is up to the user, and Gentoo users should always be aware that they need to explicitly choose and commit to their decision. Of course, that wouldn't be a reasonable position if one didn't trust the dev's judgement, but in fact, that's almost the first choice a Gentoo user needs to make; certainly about the status of the Portage tree, if one is not going to monitor or participate in the activities of the dev team (in this case, the KDE herd, I suppose). After all, if you think about it, the gentoo-*users* list is not really a logical place to seek answers as to why a specific arm of the development team has taken or not taken a specific action. Not that the dev list wants to hear anybody nagging them about this, mind you, but I would imagine that if any discussion is going on as to progress of migrating the ebuilds to stable, it would be there rather than here (so one could lurk and find out what was going on, if one cared to), or on an IRC channel (if one exists) or something like that. Possibly even on b.g.o., if someone has filed a bug to move KDE to stable (that happens), and a dev has responded to that bug with a reason why or why not, or with a we're doing it, buzz off! Gentoo is a very hands-on distro, and everyone can get involved to the extent that they're capable, and everyone is capable to some extent, because the extensive documentation enables one to know enough to do /something/ (write an ebuild, update an ebuild, file a bug, comment on a bug, etc). This is not some back-room, behind-closed-doors, we don't want to hear from you if you don't send a patch kind of dealie, so if you want to know the progress of the KDE herd in migrating KDE 3.5.x to stable, I'm sure it's possible to find out without a lot of difficulty. Just not necessarily from us, unless somebody who does monitor the KDE herd happens to be around (which is not a particularly efficient way of getting an answer to your question). :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem Installing a gentoo | cross compiling install ?
Hi, here is my problem : i have acces to my remote server and i want to install gentoo on it. the problems are : -during the install process i can only boot in a rescue mode with 32bit linux 2.4 kernel -my remote processor is a xeon with 64bits if during the installation i choose to use stage3-ia64, i can't doing nothing like chroot cause /bin/bash is 64 bits and the kernel running is 32bits... if i choose to boot a stage3-x86 and do my install wwith it... when i ll reboot, i ll not be able to make an upgrade to 64bit api cause my kernel will be in 32 bits... is there any solution ? thanx. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache (paths not showing in url)
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On 157182712 Tito Valentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans,
It is showing a framset in my page when I view page source. How would I
be able to correct this? If I hit the test site I can see all the paths
but when I host it live I CANNOT see the paths in the url.
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
Just put a frame break in your main page that you don't want to be in a
frame. Here is an example script:
script language=javascript type=text/javascript
/* == *
': This forces the current document to the top of any
': frames.
': You MUST either remove it or comment it out if you
': want the page to be frameable in browsers supporting
': scripting.
'* == */
if (top.location != self.location)
{
top.location.replace(self.location); // pop to top
}
/script
Jim
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[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with -*
Walter Dnes waltdnes at waltdnes.org writes: The whole point behind -* is to prevent future surprises. Yesterday it was emboss and ipv6. Today it's apache2. What's next; and when? One reason I'm using Gentoo is because I want the maximum control over my machine that's possible without going to LFS. Starting USE with -* is part of my strategy for maintaining control. Walter, You are so right, it scary. I fumbled around for a while before discovering this on my first gentoo firewall. It should be pointed out and emphasised during the installation and maintenance docs, in my opinion. Now, my firewalls work flawlessly, within the parenthetical limitations of iptables... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Installing a gentoo | cross compiling install ?
On Sunday 12 March 2006 17:02, Keats wrote: Hi, here is my problem : i have acces to my remote server and i want to install gentoo on it. the problems are : -during the install process i can only boot in a rescue mode with 32bit linux 2.4 kernel -my remote processor is a xeon with 64bits if during the installation i choose to use stage3-ia64, i can't doing nothing like chroot cause /bin/bash is 64 bits and the kernel running is 32bits... if i choose to boot a stage3-x86 and do my install wwith it... when i ll reboot, i ll not be able to make an upgrade to 64bit api cause my kernel will be in 32 bits... is there any solution ? thanx. Hi, Have you tried booting with install-ia64-minimal-2006.0 CD ? it's 56 MB. Afterwards you could use stage3-ia64-2006.0.tar.bz2. HTH.Rumen pgpdkaEooJZ9L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Installing a gentoo | cross compiling install ?
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:38:21 +0200 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Have you tried booting with install-ia64-minimal-2006.0 CD ? it's 56 MB. Afterwards you could use stage3-ia64-2006.0.tar.bz2. HTH.Rumen i can't boot on a medium it's a remote server, i can't physicaly acced to it the only way way to boot is to use what my hoster provide... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem Installing a gentoo | cross compiling install ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 161979872 Keats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip if i choose to boot a stage3-x86 and do my install wwith it... when i'll reboot, i ll not be able to make an upgrade to 64bit api cause my kernel will be in 32 bits... is there any solution ? thanx. Why can't you do the stage3-x86 then reboot to a 32bit kernel. Once you do that you should be able to compile a 64-bit kernel and add a new grub menu item for your new 64bit compiled kernel and make sure to set it as the default. So basically you will have to do the base system twice. Once for 32bit. Once the 32bit is up and running, you then compile a 64bit kernel and boot into that and then just recompile your system. I am not sure if the above will work since I have never had to do it. Just thought I throw out the suggestion :) Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFFMFeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAv1wAJ9+e4RkIeBKBIulZ58jnRJcJX9l6ACffXQr 9k2j/7ZwglqqmTGq1inrdmA= =PJYV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remote rsync
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Paul Stear wrote: In KDE I can copy files using Konqueror to lan://pc2/ which shows my device.homenet.com. If I then click on the device I get 3 icons NFS SMB HTTP If I click on SMB the location changes to smb://device.homenet.com and I can copy any files I want - even links seem to work you can use network filesystems NFS or SMB. Make sure you compiled support into your kernel. then try: mount -t smbfs //netbios_name_of_server_or_ip/name_of_share /local_dir or mount -t nfs dns_server_name_or_ip:/remote_dir /local_dir rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test lkd5f:/test after mount run: rsync -Cav --delete --progress /test /local_dir to use advantages of rsync, or just use cp etc. Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory speed/type
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 147007040 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I was thinking of maybe trying one of the freeware apps for windows under Wine if there is no app under linux. Thanks, Jim FYI, this did not work :) Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFFTNeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAql0AJ99VZrsGTSfU3qhNyKjuXYqPUeCegCfQNcA WL4Uy5ONEuIbnc1jbERBIwc= =11SG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Evolution mail sorting
Hi. I would like to configure Evolution to sort mail similar to GMail.. ie. Threaded, but if a message arrives as part of a thread, it is promoted to the top of the mailbox.. Is this possible ? Thanks Voiceless it cries, Wingless flutters, Toothless bites, Mouthless mutters.
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Sunday 12 March 2006 01:45, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': Another thing (issue) is with virtual/x11. Had to put virtual/x11-6.8 in package.provided to be able to emerge again. Rumen That's a work around for the transitional period while not all the ebuild support xorg 7. However, I haven't need to use this work around yet, and I have /plently/ of applications installed that require X, albeit applications a lot of users will have installed. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
On Sunday 12 March 2006 02:43, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help': A couple of options. - dvdbackup, dvd9to5 and lxdvdrip seem to work nicely enough I'm a big fan of ANDREW from the FSF. There should be an ebuild in bugzilla; but it's trivial to install. It's not a X application, but it /is/, despite the name, a wizard that does all of the heavy lifting for you. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:20:31 -0500 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Why in (diety's) name does the the average user need apache2? Or | emboss (European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite)? Uh, USE flags are not packages. You're misunderstanding how USE flags work. Adding apache2 and emboss to the default USE flags does not mean that users will get Apache or Emboss. Having these USE flags in the defaults is entirely sensible and correct, and provides expected behaviour for the majority of users. Anyone claiming otherwise simply doesn't understand what's going on. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Sunday 12 March 2006 11:51, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*': On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:20:31 -0500 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Why in (diety's) name does the the average user need apache2? Or | emboss (European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite)? Uh, USE flags are not packages. You're misunderstanding how USE flags work. Adding apache2 and emboss to the default USE flags does not mean that users will get Apache or Emboss. Having these USE flags in the defaults is entirely sensible and correct, and provides expected behaviour for the majority of users. Anyone claiming otherwise simply doesn't understand what's going on. Amen. Plus, it's /completely/ trivial to add -* to your USE or (using the great euse tool) euse -D useflag. Or, for those type A personalities out there, tweak your /etc/portage/package.use. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ntp problems
ntp-client is in my default run level. However, when I it runs at boot time, I get this error message: 12 Mar 09:06:24 ntpd[9516]: cap_set_proc() failed to drop root privileges: Operation not permitted 12 Mar 09:06:26 ntpd[9561]: parent died before we finished, exiting If I run it as root manually, it runs fine. Any ideas as to what the problem is? David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Google-Talk
Hi All, Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntp problems
On Sunday 12 March 2006 04:28 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:16, David Corbin wrote: ntp-client is in my default run level. However, when I it runs at boot time, I get this error message: 12 Mar 09:06:24 ntpd[9516]: cap_set_proc() failed to drop root privileges: Operation not permitted 12 Mar 09:06:26 ntpd[9561]: parent died before we finished, exiting If I run it as root manually, it runs fine. Add nodroproot to your USE flags and remerge ntp I will, but why does it work fine from the command line? -- Peter Gentoo Linux: Portage 2.0.54. kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r5. i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+. gcc(GCC): 3.4.5. KDE: 3.5.1. Qt: 3.3.4. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? Here is the dmesg usb section. The mice are usb 3-1 and usb 3-2: ehci_hcd :00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: irq 5, io mem 0xde001000 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller uhci_hcd :00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: irq 11, io base 0xd400 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd :00:10.1: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#2) uhci_hcd :00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 uhci_hcd :00:10.1: irq 10, io base 0xd800 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd :00:10.2: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#3) uhci_hcd :00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 uhci_hcd :00:10.2: irq 12, io base 0xdc00 hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.01:USB HID core driver usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Creative Webcam Notebook Zc301+Tas5130c usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca_core.c: spca5xx driver 00.57.06LE registered usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MosArt Optical Mouse] on usb-:00:10.1-1 usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MosArt Optical Mouse] on usb-:00:10.1-2 usbcore: registered new driver usbserial drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI SIO drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI 8U232AM Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI FT232BM Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI FT2232C Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for USB-UIRT Infrared Tranceiver drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Home-Electronics TIRA-1 IR Transceiver ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter detected usb 2-1: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter now attached to ttyUSB0 usbcore: registered new driver ftdi_sio drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c: v1.4.2:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver oprofile: using timer interrupt. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? If you're using udev, the devices should be found in /dev/input/mice. At least that's where mine is. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
There they are, and they both work. I feel so dumb. Thanks very much Holly, Michael On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Holly Bostick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? If you're using udev, the devices should be found in /dev/input/mice. At least that's where mine is. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
Hey group, My trusty old computer died tonight :( I am stuck with my winders laptop for a few days until I can get in a new mobo and processor. I am looking at getting something like an AMD 64 or a Pentium D dual core. I can get one of the two models below for a really good price on newegg. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 800MHz HT Socket 754 or Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor Both of these are in the $150 price range for processors that I want to stay at, though I will go up to about $200 for a proc. I have always used AMD at home though never had an AMD 64 yet. If I go Intel then I would want it to have either HT or dual core. If anyone has a good suggestion for a proc $200, please let me know. The next item is a mobo to go with the proc. For the mobo I really want SATA, PCI express, onboard audio and lan. I don't want onboard video, I will get a newer Nvida card to handle video. All the onboard stuff must work under Gentoo, I won't have MS on the new box. I am not sure if I should go intel or amd64. I am not looking for an amd vs intel flame war, just suggestions based on personal experience. This box will be my main home computer running Gentoo. I am a programmer so I want a system that will be fast for compiling, some Linux games from time to time, uh... compiling Gentoo : ), watching videos/dvd's and maybe 1-2 times a year I will encode a video. Thanks for any tip, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Plus, it's /completely/ trivial to add -* to your USE or (using the great euse tool) euse -D useflag. Or, for those type A personalities out there, tweak your /etc/portage/package.use. Another tool is ufed (use flag editor). Nicely combines flag name, set state, and brief description. From this thread, I realized I hadn't ever reviewed my use flags, just added ones as needed for the past 1.5 years. So added the -* to start with. A few surprises like tetek. Found a half dozen deprecated flags. Then using ufed I discovered several new flags to try. This has me wondering if there is a utility to help manage the use flags. I'd like to know: * Which use flags I have set that are not used by anything I have installed. * Which use flags are deprecated. * Which use flags are new. Ideally I'd just add this to my daily.cron job. Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I'm a big fan of ANDREW from the FSF. There should be an ebuild in bugzilla; but it's trivial to install. It's not a X application, but it /is/, despite the name, a wizard that does all of the heavy lifting for you. Just tried acidrip which is mplayer based instead of transcode. It worked fine on the one DVD I've tested with. HTH, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 23:23 -0500, JimD wrote: Hey group, My trusty old computer died tonight :( I _wish_ mine would die, then I could justify an upgrade ;) Maybe it will have an ... accident! Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor I just bought an Pentium D 830 (Dual core 3.0 GHz, seems nicely fast :) for a friend's upgrade. It went with an Asrock 775 Twins-HDTV mobo - a nice array of features but I don't know about linux support b/c they're windows only users... Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song? -- Steven Wright -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ntp problems
On Sunday 12 March 2006 19:43, David Corbin wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 04:28 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:16, David Corbin wrote: ntp-client is in my default run level. However, when I it runs at boot time, I get this error message: 12 Mar 09:06:24 ntpd[9516]: cap_set_proc() failed to drop root privileges: Operation not permitted 12 Mar 09:06:26 ntpd[9561]: parent died before we finished, exiting If I run it as root manually, it runs fine. Add nodroproot to your USE flags and remerge ntp I will, but why does it work fine from the command line? -- Peter Gentoo Linux: Portage 2.0.54. kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r5. i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+. gcc(GCC): 3.4.5. KDE: 3.5.1. Qt: 3.3.4. Hi, Because when it wants to drop it's privileges from root to e.g. ntpd (user or group) it can't - get's killed. Usually permission problems or in this case it/ntpd can't access /proc to set time (cap_set_proc()). Just a sidenote, recently (a day ago) exchanged ntp for openntpd (from OpenBSD) on a hardened router, because ntp wanted to lock too much memory (RLIMIT_MEMLOCK - from 32K (default) - ~8 MB) and other minor issues. HTH.Rumen pgpQeBMSIHpnf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
Roy Wright wrote: This has me wondering if there is a utility to help manage the use flags. I'd like to know: * Which use flags I have set that are not used by anything I have installed. * Which use flags are deprecated. * Which use flags are new. Ideally I'd just add this to my daily.cron job. Thank you, Roy If you are using a recent portage, you can use the --newuse flag, which will show which USE flags have changed. -- Michael Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developerhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~vericgar GnuPG Key ID 0x08614788 available on http://pgp.mit.edu -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
Iain Buchanan wrote: I wish mine would die, then I could justify an upgrade ;) Maybe it will have an ... accident! Just spill a little coffe and you should be all set :) I just bought an Pentium D 830 (Dual core 3.0 GHz, seems nicely fast :) for a friend's upgrade. It went with an Asrock 775 Twins-HDTV mobo - a nice array of features but I don't know about linux support b/c they're windows only users... Thanks for the info, I will look into that mobo support for Linux. Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. By HT do you mean AMD 64 Hyper-Transport or Pentium Hyper-Threading? Thanks for the info, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 00:59, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. By HT do you mean AMD 64 Hyper-Transport or Pentium Hyper-Threading? Hyper-Transport = the shit [1] Hyper-Threading = just shit [2] -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh [1] American slang for is really cool. [2] This is just referring to feces. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
