Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration problem
arnuld wrote: > i ave installed X using "emerge X" and after hours of > download-compile-install cycle "startx" tells me that drivers named > "mouse" & "kbd" are not found. here is what i have done > > 1.) used "genkernel all" to compile my kernel. > > 2.) added these 2 to "/etc/make.conf" > INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" > VIDEO_CARDS="flrx vesa via vga v4l" > > 3.) emerge xorg-x11 > > 4.) Xorg -configure. > > 5.) "xorg.conf" edited: > >"HorizSync & VertRefresh" added >"/dev/mouse" changed to "/dev/input/mouse" > > i got these errrors (not exact errors but something like them): > > (EE) AGLRX: Screen0 is not DRI capable > (EE) driver "mouse" was not found > (EE) driver "kbd" was not found" > > i checked "xorg.conf" & saw that Keyboard & Mouse sections use "kbd" & > "mouse" drivers respectively. > > how to resolve this issue? > > This is how mine is set up. > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option"Protocol" "auto" > Option"Device" "/dev/input/mouse0" > Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" Maybe there is something different on yours but it works here. May give you something to go by. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X configuration problem
On Friday 19 January 2007 22:03, arnuld wrote: > i ave installed X using "emerge X" and after hours of > > (EE) AGLRX: Screen0 is not DRI capable Try to # the DRI under modules and # at the end there might be a section for DRI > (EE) driver "mouse" was not found it should be /dev/input/mice > (EE) driver "kbd" was not found" should be keyboard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox/Conky acting up
On 1/20/07, Vlad Dogaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/20/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 19 January 2007 21:28, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > On 1/19/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > What you probably need is a line like:
> > >
> > > kill -HUP conky
> > >
> > > after your 'exec /usr/bin/conky &' entry in .fluxbox/startup.
> > >
> > > Alternatively,
> > > meant to be
> > > kill -HUP `echo ${SOME_THING} | cut -d ':' -f 2`
> > >
> > > may do the trick but only if 'SOME_THING' is an environment variable for
> > > conky, which may or may not exist. If it doesn't exist then you need a
> > > string which will source the conky PID from ps. I haven't such a string
> > > available here, but I recall seeing something in Google.
>
> > I've solved the problem by taking your suggestion further. I've added
> >
> > pkill -HUP conky
> >
> > to my startup file, before starting Conky. That does the trick as far as I
> > can tell.
>
> Try adding it after the start fluxbox line. Then it should kill it when
> fluxbox exits.
Never thought of it that way, but I will give ti a try.
> PS. Your English is perfect and so would be your netiquette, especially if
you
> posted messages in plain text only! ;-)
That's a problem I have. Can I configure Gmail to send plain text?
Never mind that, I was just being idiotic thinking it was some sort of
hack. The link in the formatting bar had completely eluded me for
years.
Vlad
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox/Conky acting up
On 1/20/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Friday 19 January 2007 21:28, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> On 1/19/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What you probably need is a line like:
> >
> > kill -HUP conky
> >
> > after your 'exec /usr/bin/conky &' entry in .fluxbox/startup.
> >
> > Alternatively,
> > meant to be
> > kill -HUP `echo ${SOME_THING} | cut -d ':' -f 2`
> >
> > may do the trick but only if 'SOME_THING' is an environment variable
for
> > conky, which may or may not exist. If it doesn't exist then you need
a
> > string which will source the conky PID from ps. I haven't such a
string
> > available here, but I recall seeing something in Google.
> I've solved the problem by taking your suggestion further. I've added
>
> pkill -HUP conky
>
> to my startup file, before starting Conky. That does the trick as far as
I
> can tell.
Try adding it after the start fluxbox line. Then it should kill it when
fluxbox exits.
Never thought of it that way, but I will give ti a try.
PS. Your English is perfect and so would be your netiquette, especially if
you
posted messages in plain text only! ;-)
That's a problem I have. Can I configure Gmail to send plain text?
Thanks,
Vlad
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On Saturday 20 January 2007 00:31, Jan Stępień wrote: > After launching X server with this setting it results in using Mesa > instead of fglrx, which means NO direct rendering, as proved by glxinfo. > Beryl cannot be launched because of lack of DRI. > > If I turn composite off, the X server is driven by fglrx, which gives me > direct rendering and Beryl's refusal to start because of lack of > composite extension. > > It's all quite suspicious, taking into account fact that Radeons are > listed at the website above as video cards able of running AIGLX. But > maybe only on FOSS drivers...? > It might be a proprietary drive issue. I use an intel chipset - composite on, direct rendering, AIGLX and Beryl all working together. Just as the wiki tells you to do. > Afterwards I've downloaded xlaunch. When trying to launch an app (in > this case armyops) starting xlaunch in a terminal in an existing X > server the screen blacks out, probably trying to launch new X session > and suddenly restarts GDM, meanwhile killing my original session. > > I've also tried to use xlaunch in a text console having my previous X > server turned on. Results are the same. > > Have you got any suggestions? > Try turning off GDM, logging in via console and then running startx. Then from inside that xserver use xlaunch to start the game, see if the results are any different. Xlaunch works perfectly for me from within KDE or enlightenment, although I've never had GDM running (or even installed) on this machine. - Noven -- >-- Novensiles divi Flamen --< > Miles Militis Fons < -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] X configuration problem
i ave installed X using "emerge X" and after hours of download-compile-install cycle "startx" tells me that drivers named "mouse" & "kbd" are not found. here is what i have done 1.) used "genkernel all" to compile my kernel. 2.) added these 2 to "/etc/make.conf" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" VIDEO_CARDS="flrx vesa via vga v4l" 3.) emerge xorg-x11 4.) Xorg -configure. 5.) "xorg.conf" edited: "HorizSync & VertRefresh" added "/dev/mouse" changed to "/dev/input/mouse" i got these errrors (not exact errors but something like them): (EE) AGLRX: Screen0 is not DRI capable (EE) driver "mouse" was not found (EE) driver "kbd" was not found" i checked "xorg.conf" & saw that Keyboard & Mouse sections use "kbd" & "mouse" drivers respectively. how to resolve this issue? -- http://arnuld.blogspot.com/ Linux registered user #439610 http://counter.li.org/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 10:08 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > Another thing i will try is to reemerge shorewall put my configuration > back run shorewall and search for the files which have changed > recently. good idea, if you have the space you can just `cp -a /etc /etc.old` (only 124M here). Then you can diff them after installing and configuring shorewall. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan A newspaper is a circulating library with high blood pressure. -- Arthure "Bugs" Baer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers -> character devices -> radeon built in (or as a module) and in xorg.conf set driver to "radeon". Am I right? Yeah, I think that will work. Good luck! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: logrotate won't rotate portage logs
On Monday 15 January 2007 19:32, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I do not understand why the log files within /var/log/portage/ will
> not rotate on my PC, while they rotate fine on my laptop. The
> /etc/logrotate.conf is the same on both boxen:
> ==
> # rotate log files weekly
> weekly
> #daily
>
> # keep 4 weeks worth of backlogs
> rotate 4
>
> # create new (empty) log files after rotating old ones
> create
>
> # uncomment this if you want your log files compressed
> compress
>
> # packages can drop log rotation information into this directory
> include /etc/logrotate.d
>
> notifempty
> nomail
> noolddir
>
> [snip . . . ]
>
> # when /var/log/portage gets big
> /var/log/portage/*.log
> {
> rotate 1
> weekly
> nocreate
> ifempty
> olddir /var/log/portage/old
> postrotate
> find /var/log/portage/old -maxdepth 1 -mtime +30 -exec /bin/rm -f {} \;
> endscript
> nocompress
> }
> ==
>
> The only difference I noticed (other than the fact that I have two
> year old portage log files in /var/log/portage) between the two boxen
> is that the access rights of the 'old' directory on the PC were:
>
> drwxr-sr-x 2 rootroot 48 Dec 23 2005 old
>
> while on the laptop which rotates without problems are:
>
> drwx-- 2 rootroot 4256 Jan 13 11:20 old
>
> This may be a bit of a red herring because even though I changed the
> access rights as per the laptop, the PC still refuses to rotate the
> portage log files.
>
> Any ideas? How do I troubleshoot this one?
Anyone? Anything I could look into?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox/Conky acting up
On Friday 19 January 2007 21:28, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> On 1/19/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What you probably need is a line like:
> >
> > kill -HUP conky
> >
> > after your 'exec /usr/bin/conky &' entry in .fluxbox/startup.
> >
> > Alternatively,
> > meant to be
> > kill -HUP `echo ${SOME_THING} | cut -d ':' -f 2`
> >
> > may do the trick but only if 'SOME_THING' is an environment variable for
> > conky, which may or may not exist. If it doesn't exist then you need a
> > string which will source the conky PID from ps. I haven't such a string
> > available here, but I recall seeing something in Google.
> I've solved the problem by taking your suggestion further. I've added
>
> pkill -HUP conky
>
> to my startup file, before starting Conky. That does the trick as far as I
> can tell.
Try adding it after the start fluxbox line. Then it should kill it when
fluxbox exits.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa on startup
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:01:49 +0800 Jed R. Mallen wrote: > On 1/19/07, doug asherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jed R. Mallen wrote: > > > hello > > > > > > whenever i boot my gentoo on fluxbox, i always have to do > > > alsa-conf as root to enable sound. > > > > Did you do "rc-update add alsasound default"? > > worked! thanks! Worked for me, too. I had installed alsa, hadn't realized that rc-update was needed, and wondered why audacious needed to be run from root. After running rc-update, root is not needed for sound. Thanks! David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa on startup
On 1/19/07, doug asherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jed R. Mallen wrote: > hello > > whenever i boot my gentoo on fluxbox, i always have to do alsa-conf as > root to enable sound. Did you do "rc-update add alsasound default"? worked! thanks! Doug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jed R. Mallen GPG key ID: 81E575A3 fp: 4E1E CBA5 7E6A 2F8B 8756 660A E54C 39D6 81E5 75A3 http://jed.sitesled.com Censorship is rape. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.mask
Boris Fersing wrote: > > Norberto Bensa wrote: > > > what does "~" mean here: > > > (example from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask) > > > > > > ~net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3 > > > > Here, all the revisions of net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3 (-r1 , -r2, ...) > are masked ! Nice. Thanks Boris! Best regards, Norberto pgp6nLAld6z2e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
2007/1/19, Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Downloading_distfiles_on_another_machine There are more tips regarding this at the Wiki, check Google too... As I wrote in my other answer it works. Thanks for your hints. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
2007/1/19, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Not sure of what you mean, isn't that something that can be constructed massaging the output of emerge -fp ? Well, I actually never tried emerge -f with the -p-option. But it works like charm. Thanks a lot. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
Vlad Dogaru ha scritto: I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but, as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally). 384 megs are low but not so bad. I did run a Kubuntu 6.06 system at work using full KDE+Firefox+Thunderbird, Gimp, Inkscape, kpdf etc. and yes, it was slow and I had to take care not to keep too much apps on at the same time (otherwise it was swap hell), but it worked. Of course now that I added 512 mb it's much better... I think you just have to be careful about apps, but not worry too much. I read up on Dillo and it looks promising. I will try it. As for Opera, I used it on Windows for quite some time, but at one point I started to be annoyed by the numerous marginally useful (at least to me) features that got added. I still regard it as a great browser, comparable to Firefox, but not what I am looking for. I'd keep firefox or opera installed as a lifeboat, anyway. Dillo and links cannot match the other two for many features you *may* have the need sometimes. Unfortunately the other good browser I'm aware of (Konqueror) requires kdelibs, that probably you're trying to avoid... m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] package.mask
on Friday 01/19/2007 Norberto Bensa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > Hello list, > > what does "~" mean here: > (example from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask) > > ~net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3 Excerpt from man 5 ebuild Now to get even fancier, we provide the ability to define blocking packages and version range matching. Also note that these extended prefixes/postfixes may be combined in any way with the atom classes defined above. Here are some common examples you may find in the portage tree: !app-text/dos2unix =dev-libs/glib-2* !=net-fs/samba-2* ~net-libs/libnet-1.0.2a ! means block packages from being installed at the same time. * means match any version of the package so long as the specified base is matched. So with a version of '2*', we can match '2.1', '2.2', '2.2.1', etc... and not match version '1.0', '3.0', '4.1', etc... ~ means match any revision of the base version specified. So in the above example, we would match versions '1.0.2a', '1.0.2a-r1', '1.0.2a-r2', etc... Hope this helps. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.mask
2007/1/19, sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> what does "~" mean here:
> (example from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask)
>
> ~net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3
>
> ?
I think it means that the package is still in testing.
No, the ~ before the package name stands for "any revision of the base
version specified". (read 'man 5 ebuild')
Here, all the revisions of net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3 (-r1 , -r2, ...)
are masked !
regards,
Boris.
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Re: [gentoo-user] package.mask
Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello list, what does "~" mean here: (example from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask) ~net-dns/bind-tools-9.3.3 ? I think it means that the package is still in testing. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] package.mask
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
On 1/19/07, b.n. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vlad Dogaru ha scritto: > Hello, > > I am recently growing fed up with strongly graphical applications > causing my (admittedly quite old) computer to slow down to a crawl. I > like the concept of Ratpoison and am thinking of switching to it, but > could use a few tips for making the big change. Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience, but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you often do something quite computationally intensive. I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but, as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally). I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, > but quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical > capabilities, but it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my > vision. I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim > person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get > them to work). Did you try Dillo? I don't know if it has tabs but it seems *very* lightweight. Otherwise maybe Opera? people insist in saying it's really fast and light (and has tabs:as a matter of fact, Opera invented them!), but I personally don't know. I read up on Dillo and it looks promising. I will try it. As for Opera, I used it on Windows for quite some time, but at one point I started to be annoyed by the numerous marginally useful (at least to me) features that got added. I still regard it as a great browser, comparable to Firefox, but not what I am looking for. Any other tips or nifty programs you could link me to would be greatly > appreciated, especially Ratpoison-related; For instance, C-t is too > RSI-prone for my taste and conflicts with Firefox's new tab button (I > want to switch, but I realise fx could prove irreplaceable, mainly due > to the large userbase). Try to see what purposely lightweight distros like DamnSmallLinux, VectorLinux and Puppy Linux install by default, I think you'll have a good choice of lightweight packages. However as far as concerning ratpoison, I know nothing... > How's my English? How about my Netiquette? > Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. This is going to be the best sign of 2007 :) - I really appreciate this kind of approach. Thanks. I really look forward to constructive critique. Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you.
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox/Conky acting up
On 1/19/07, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Vlad,
On Thursday 18 January 2007 22:35, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I had Conky start automatically when I log in to Fluxbox by adding the
> following line to .fluxbox/startup:
>
> exec /usr/bin/conky &
>
> It is before exec /usr/bin/fluxbox (a howto warned me about this
pitfall)
> and everything works as expected. The only problem is that when I exit
my
> Fluxbox session, Conky doesn't stop, but rather starts eating up my CPU
> (could this be because when I log back in I start another instance of
it?).
> It can't be killed with a KILL signal, but I noticed HUP will do the
trick.
> Is this normal? How can I have Conky stopped at logout?
Since no answers have been offered so far, I'll have a go at suggesting
some
things to try.
I am afraid I do not have conky on my machines, so I can't readily test
this.
What you probably need is a line like:
kill -HUP conky
after your 'exec /usr/bin/conky &' entry in .fluxbox/startup.
Alternatively,
meant to be
kill -HUP `echo ${SOME_THING} | cut -d ':' -f 2`
may do the trick but only if 'SOME_THING' is an environment variable for
conky, which may or may not exist. If it doesn't exist then you need a
string which will source the conky PID from ps. I haven't such a string
available here, but I recall seeing something in Google.
Hope the above is not wildly incorrect and helps you find something that
works. Please post back either way.
Hi Mick,
I've solved the problem by taking your suggestion further. I've added
pkill -HUP conky
to my startup file, before starting Conky. That does the trick as far as I
can tell.
Thanks for the input,
Vlad
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox/Conky acting up
Hi Vlad,
On Thursday 18 January 2007 22:35, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I had Conky start automatically when I log in to Fluxbox by adding the
> following line to .fluxbox/startup:
>
> exec /usr/bin/conky &
>
> It is before exec /usr/bin/fluxbox (a howto warned me about this pitfall)
> and everything works as expected. The only problem is that when I exit my
> Fluxbox session, Conky doesn't stop, but rather starts eating up my CPU
> (could this be because when I log back in I start another instance of it?).
> It can't be killed with a KILL signal, but I noticed HUP will do the trick.
> Is this normal? How can I have Conky stopped at logout?
Since no answers have been offered so far, I'll have a go at suggesting some
things to try.
I am afraid I do not have conky on my machines, so I can't readily test this.
What you probably need is a line like:
kill -HUP conky
after your 'exec /usr/bin/conky &' entry in .fluxbox/startup.
Alternatively,
meant to be
kill -HUP `echo ${SOME_THING} | cut -d ':' -f 2`
may do the trick but only if 'SOME_THING' is an environment variable for
conky, which may or may not exist. If it doesn't exist then you need a
string which will source the conky PID from ps. I haven't such a string
available here, but I recall seeing something in Google.
Hope the above is not wildly incorrect and helps you find something that
works. Please post back either way.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ALSA] Can't use FF and Amarok together as sound driver fails
Mauro Faccenda wrote: On Friday 19 January 2007 17:33, b.n. wrote: Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto: Hey! When I watch some videos on youtube and after that want to watch a move wie kaffeine or listen to some music using amarok. I always get the error message that xine was unable to initialize any sound drivers. So this means that I can't use 2 applications using sound. Why is that? Did you experience similar problems and know how to fix this? I'm experiencing the reverse annoyance. That is, most apps will play without a hitch, but if I try to get sound from FF *after* I've opened amarok or xine etc. FF will give me only silence. edit: /usr/bin/firefox and add "aoss" after exec in the last line. like this: exec aoss /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher "$@" []'s .m Ok that helped! I first had to emerge alsa-oss and then to edit /usr/bin/firefox. Gentoo is not only the best linux it also has a great community! Thanks a lot. Best Regards Jay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On 1/19/07, Jens Kubieziel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
a friend of mine wants to use Gentoo, but has a poor internet
connection.
We are thinking about a convenient way to get packages. We thought about
redefining $FETCHCOMMAND to something like 'FETCHCOMMAND="echo ${URI}
> package.file'. But that (and also other tries) did not work. What is
the best way
to get a file of download-URLs to feed to wget?
Thanks for any recommendations
There are many ways of doying this, and what you've tried will most
certainly not work :-), try something like:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Downloading_distfiles_on_another_machine
There are more tips regarding this at the Wiki, check Google too...
I have a poor internet connection, I've found emerge --fetchonly to be
great. There's also a TIP for portage on dialup on the Gentoo wiki. Do a
search for it on Google. Hope this helps.
Best Regards.
Avaricen
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[gentoo-user] Tellico cddb configuration
Hello All, Is anyone able to tell me how to configure Tellico to retrieve music CD info from freedb.org? The only data source included by default is one for Yahoo music. The Tellico site says it can be done, but no apparent instructions on the steps for setup. Please note, I do not have KDE (or Gnome) installed, just the needed resources for Tellico. Thanks Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [ALSA] Can't use FF and Amarok together as sound driver fails
On Friday 19 January 2007 17:33, b.n. wrote: > Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto: > > Hey! > > > > When I watch some videos on youtube and after that want to watch a move > > wie kaffeine or listen to some music using amarok. I always get the > > error message that xine was unable to initialize any sound drivers. So > > this means that I can't use 2 applications using sound. > > > > Why is that? Did you experience similar problems and know how to fix > > this? > > I'm experiencing the reverse annoyance. That is, most apps will play > without a hitch, but if I try to get sound from FF *after* I've opened > amarok or xine etc. FF will give me only silence. edit: /usr/bin/firefox and add "aoss" after exec in the last line. like this: exec aoss /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher "$@" []'s .m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [ALSA] Can't use FF and Amarok together as sound driver fails
Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto: Hey! When I watch some videos on youtube and after that want to watch a move wie kaffeine or listen to some music using amarok. I always get the error message that xine was unable to initialize any sound drivers. So this means that I can't use 2 applications using sound. Why is that? Did you experience similar problems and know how to fix this? I'm experiencing the reverse annoyance. That is, most apps will play without a hitch, but if I try to get sound from FF *after* I've opened amarok or xine etc. FF will give me only silence. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
On 2007-01-19 09:45, Vlad Dogaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, but > quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical capabilities, but > it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my vision. I've tried Conkeror > for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim person here) and also disables > tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get them to work). I'd never heard of Conkeror, so I started playing with it. I really like it (but *I* am an Emacs guy). If you do "M-x use-vi-keys" (where "M-x" is probably Alt-x on your machine) then it feels more vi-like (j,k scroll up/down; h,l go back/forward; colon for commands instead of M-x). It doesn't seem to do tabs, but it will open pages in different (Emacs-like) buffers. Use "C-x f" (with emacs keys) to open a URL in a new buffer. Then "C-x b" to switch between buffers. (Not sure what the equivilent vi-style keystrokes are, but they might be there) Of course, Conkeror is still Firefox underneath, so that won't help with it being a memory hog. Anyway, thanks for showing me something new and cool! -- Luke -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: DRI doesn't work with Radeon XPress 200M and opensource Drivers
Jerônimo Backes yahoo.com.br> writes: > > Sorry about the mail with html... > > I've tried everthing I found on google and the forums and still can't > find the way to make DRI work with my ATI Radeon XPress 200M and the > opensource drivers. > > I don't want to install the closed source because I want to use beryl, > and these drivers can't do the job, AFAIK. You might want to read about this video hardware on an HP pavilion laptop, particulary the part about the 'ATI Radeon XPress 200M ' It seems the only way to get 3D is with ati-drivers Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) I also have an HP 8000 pavilion portable, but, I'm using radeon with DRI/DRM.. Until I get bzflag working with an ATI 1900 card on a pcie mobo I'm not going to mess with 3D on the HP pavilion 8000. hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
Hi, On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:40:21 + "b.n." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a > minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience, > but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated > machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you > often do something quite computationally intensive. Agreed. Anything below 128MB will be sluggish, no matter what. You can only change in what way it is sluggish, at least a bit. > > I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, > > but quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical > > capabilities, but it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my > > vision. I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim > > person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get > > them to work). > > Did you try Dillo? I don't know if it has tabs but it seems *very* > lightweight. Dillo's nice and all, but it really has problems with complex sites. And don't expect it to show flash animation (I'm not sure if that is good or bad, actually), run Javascript (does it do that to some extend? Last time I had a look it didn't)... > Otherwise maybe Opera? people insist in saying it's really fast and > light (and has tabs:as a matter of fact, Opera invented them!), but I > personally don't know. Opera also is not free software (but it is as in beer). Personally, I like Opera very much. Does all the current pages (minor exceptions, but more page-hickups than real broken pages). But it will need RAM, too. That 128MB rule basically applies here. E.g. my currently opened Opera has a RSS of 76MB -- with 10 tabs open, part of them doing heavy Javascript jobs, like netvibes. > > Any other tips or nifty programs you could link me to would be greatly > > appreciated, especially Ratpoison-related; For instance, C-t is too > > RSI-prone for my taste and conflicts with Firefox's new tab button (I > > want to switch, but I realise fx could prove irreplaceable, mainly due > > to the large userbase). > > Try to see what purposely lightweight distros like DamnSmallLinux, > VectorLinux and Puppy Linux install by default, I think you'll have a > good choice of lightweight packages. However as far as concerning > ratpoison, I know nothing... If the OP likes ratpoison, he might enjoy evilwm (very small memory footprint, read the man page before running). If customization matters, I found pekwm do a very good job at this. Complex, albeit easy configuration. Nice themes -- but I did disable the themes, my WM has only keystrokes and neither borders nor a title bar. When there's need for a full desktop environment, I would suggest Xfce, too. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [ALSA] Can't use FF and Amarok together as sound driver fails
Hey! When I watch some videos on youtube and after that want to watch a move wie kaffeine or listen to some music using amarok. I always get the error message that xine was unable to initialize any sound drivers. So this means that I can't use 2 applications using sound. Why is that? Did you experience similar problems and know how to fix this? If you need additional information, please let me know! Best Regards Jay -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
Vlad Dogaru ha scritto: Hello, I am recently growing fed up with strongly graphical applications causing my (admittedly quite old) computer to slow down to a crawl. I like the concept of Ratpoison and am thinking of switching to it, but could use a few tips for making the big change. Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience, but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you often do something quite computationally intensive. I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, but quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical capabilities, but it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my vision. I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get them to work). Did you try Dillo? I don't know if it has tabs but it seems *very* lightweight. Otherwise maybe Opera? people insist in saying it's really fast and light (and has tabs:as a matter of fact, Opera invented them!), but I personally don't know. Any other tips or nifty programs you could link me to would be greatly appreciated, especially Ratpoison-related; For instance, C-t is too RSI-prone for my taste and conflicts with Firefox's new tab button (I want to switch, but I realise fx could prove irreplaceable, mainly due to the large userbase). Try to see what purposely lightweight distros like DamnSmallLinux, VectorLinux and Puppy Linux install by default, I think you'll have a good choice of lightweight packages. However as far as concerning ratpoison, I know nothing... How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. This is going to be the best sign of 2007 :) - I really appreciate this kind of approach. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
Vlad Dogaru wrote: I like links, what with its graphical capabilities, but it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my vision. I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get them to work). Try www-client/dillo , it's very lightweight and has tab support. It's what various livecd's use, like Insert Linux (http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html). It's quite nice, the menus and toolbars take up very little space. Any other tips or nifty programs you could link me to would be greatly appreciated, especially Ratpoison-related; For instance, C-t is too RSI-prone for my taste and conflicts with Firefox's new tab button (I want to switch, but I realise fx could prove irreplaceable, mainly due to the large userbase). I've never tried Ratpoison, but on my lower-power systems I use xfce, which isn't too bad. If I want to really minimize resource usage I go with Windowmaker. Thanks in advance, Vlad HTH, PaulNM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be forced to uses for everybody only one system. Sounds like a cool organization. :) As far as considering FreeBSD, it's a great OS; however, I'd describe it as more as an alternative to using Linux. This is certainly evident in their philosophy. I'd narrow it to Linux / FreeBSD, and if you went Linux, I'd go with Gentoo. Please see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/linux-comparison/ As far as Redhat or Gentoo are concerned, they are both great distros; however, I can't think of an advantage that Redhat has over Gentoo. In a company where the users are Linux savvy, I'd go with Gentoo for flexibility and configurability. I'm not sure how RH is handling dependency hell these days, but I can say that the team that deals with software that is available to Portage, does an unbelievable job of providing Portage with what it will need to make software maintenance trivial. At this point, I'm not sure if RH has a LiveCd. I see that FC released on a little over 1 mo ago, but I've not tried it. The Gentoo LiveCd is a stable solution that you can boot up, try out, and if you like, install. The packages that are available for Gentoo, while they may not necessarily be the, "bleeding edge, while the animal is still twitching on the ground version" will be a stable version. I'd get into the strengths / merits of Portage, but I think using it is worthwhile to see Portage at work, but I will say that Portage is a complete package management solution, and for the developer, one can appreciate really the versioning that one can do using Portage. Later, Shawn On 1/19/07, Andrey Gerasimenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:37:27 +0300, qfpvajdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo > GNU/Linux at the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one > day also for servers). > Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be > forced to uses for everybody only one system. Any anticipated forced action indicates that there is a problem. Identify the problem and show how Gentoo helps to solve it. Since you do not write about the problem, you should not expect much from the answers, all being based on some guess and/or assumption. For example, since Gentoo is a meta distribution, it may allow everybody to continue to use Linux their own way and still keep the management happy thinking that all are using the same thing. > I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat > Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. > If the choice is between Red Hat Scientific and FreeBSD, you (as an organization) clearly do not know what you need. Thus, Gentoo may be the least risky option since if you ever find out that you need a BSD or even a Solaris kernel, then you can switch to it easier from Gentoo than from Red Hat. > Does somebody has some good key arguments? > > The mines are: > - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and > full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems > - high performance desktop > These arguments proof that Gentoo may be used, not that is should be used. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- "Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does." Scott Adams, Dilbert comic
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On Friday 19 January 2007 15:01, Jan Stępień wrote: > Jan Stępień napisał(a): > > Fair enough. Firstly I'll check whether AIGLX will be working with my > > video card, and in case of failure I'll give xlaunch a shot. > > I've reemerged Xorg adding "aiglx" to USE variable, modified > /etc/X11/xorg.conf (actually I've been following these instructions: > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX) and tried to launch Xorg with AIGLX. > Unfortunately efforts were fruitless. Accordingly to article mentioned > above I have to enable composite in xorg.conf: > > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection > > After launching X server with this setting it results in using Mesa > instead of fglrx, which means NO direct rendering, as proved by glxinfo. > Beryl cannot be launched because of lack of DRI. > > If I turn composite off, the X server is driven by fglrx, which gives me > direct rendering and Beryl's refusal to start because of lack of > composite extension. > > It's all quite suspicious, taking into account fact that Radeons are > listed at the website above as video cards able of running AIGLX. But > maybe only on FOSS drivers...? > > Afterwards I've downloaded xlaunch. When trying to launch an app (in > this case armyops) starting xlaunch in a terminal in an existing X > server the screen blacks out, probably trying to launch new X session > and suddenly restarts GDM, meanwhile killing my original session. > > I've also tried to use xlaunch in a text console having my previous X > server turned on. Results are the same. > > Have you got any suggestions? Sounds like you are out of luck. The open drivers with AIGLX support don't support your card and the closed ones don't support AIGLX. So your only hope: Xgl and a second X. That is a little bit sad. Send your 'thank yous' to ATI. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering
On Friday 19 January 2007 16:52, Richard Fish wrote: > On 1/19/07, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore > > > allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. > > > > No... > > Bah, apologies for silly answer already provided by others. This > showed up as a separate thread in my gmail inbox :-( > it is a seperate thread ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system
Hello, I am recently growing fed up with strongly graphical applications causing my (admittedly quite old) computer to slow down to a crawl. I like the concept of Ratpoison and am thinking of switching to it, but could use a few tips for making the big change. I am especially looking for a browser to substitute Firefox (it's great, but quite a memory hog). I like links, what with its graphical capabilities, but it lacks tabs and that's a major downside in my vision. I've tried Conkeror for Firefox, but it's too Emacs-centric (vim person here) and also disables tabs (or maybe it's me -- I couldn't get them to work). Any other tips or nifty programs you could link me to would be greatly appreciated, especially Ratpoison-related; For instance, C-t is too RSI-prone for my taste and conflicts with Firefox's new tab button (I want to switch, but I realise fx could prove irreplaceable, mainly due to the large userbase). Thanks in advance, Vlad -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you.
Re: [gentoo-user] Qemu + SDL
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 12:01 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > Howdy gentoo-users! I'm trying to install qemu (0.8.2) and I've done > the whole gcc-config to version 3 thing. I'm currently at the > qemu-softmmu part and it is complaining that I need either sdl or cocoa. > Well, I have the sdl use flag enabled, and indeed I have libsdl > installed, so what could be the problem? Sorry, after lots of searching I found http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132655 which was the solution to my problem... Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Lay on, MacDuff, and curs'd be him who first cries, "Hold, enough!". -- Shakespeare -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd artifacts on screen
Hi, On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:30:17 +0200 Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently I've noticed that I tend to get strange smudging effects on > text displayed in X. I've attached a small (5k) .png that shows the > effect (it's the smudge on the word "have"). > [...] > (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 > [16 of these numbered up to 0x32] Why does AIGLX complain when it's not being loaded (according to the cited config)? Anyway, I would start with checking - is it Xft? Do have programs that use Xlib to write text (e.g. xterm) the same problem? Is Xft up to date? Is freetype up to date? Is /etc/fonts/conf.d/ in the desired state (not full of cruft like mine)? - is it your X server? Log in from a remote computer and use SSH X forwarding to give it a try. Maybe running programs in Xnest is sufficient to confirm whether it's your server. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
On 1/19/07, Jens Kubieziel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
a friend of mine wants to use Gentoo, but has a poor internet connection.
We are thinking about a convenient way to get packages. We thought about
redefining $FETCHCOMMAND to something like 'FETCHCOMMAND="echo ${URI}
> package.file'. But that (and also other tries) did not work. What is
the best way
to get a file of download-URLs to feed to wget?
Thanks for any recommendations
There are many ways of doying this, and what you've tried will most
certainly not work :-), try something like:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Downloading_distfiles_on_another_machine
There are more tips regarding this at the Wiki, check Google too...
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[gentoo-user] Qemu + SDL
Howdy gentoo-users! I'm trying to install qemu (0.8.2) and I've done the whole gcc-config to version 3 thing. I'm currently at the qemu-softmmu part and it is complaining that I need either sdl or cocoa. Well, I have the sdl use flag enabled, and indeed I have libsdl installed, so what could be the problem? Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Lay on, MacDuff, and curs'd be him who first cries, "Hold, enough!". -- Shakespeare -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
On Friday 19 January 2007 18:18, Jens Kubieziel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a friend of mine wants to use Gentoo, but has a poor internet
> connection. We are thinking about a convenient way to get packages.
> We thought about redefining $FETCHCOMMAND to something like
> 'FETCHCOMMAND="echo ${URI}
>
> > package.file'. But that (and also other tries) did not work. What
> > is
>
> the best way
> to get a file of download-URLs to feed to wget?
>
> Thanks for any recommendations
FETCHCOMMAND is what portage uses to fetch stuff. Once it has run,
portage expects $stuff to be there. What you have done is made sure the
portage won't try to download it at all, so of course it won't work.
I normally run 'emerge -pvf' to get a list of URIs to download, then
bash it into shape to get a text file listing, and send that to wget -i
Something like:
emerge -pvf world > emerge.lst
cat emerge.lst | cut -f1 -d' ' | sort | uniq > emerge.1.lst
[inspect emerge.1.lst manually and remove cruft]
wget -i emerge.1.lst
This can of course be improved tremendously. It only tries the first URI
for any given file (because of the cut), and it always attempts to
download every file for every package to be merged (as I haven't found
an easy way to get just a list of stuff not in distfiles)
I'm sure you could do a better job with a bit of work, this just happens
to suit my particular needs
alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x --> 4.1.x : a couple of questions
On 1/19/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm, yes that's correct. emerge -e world will recompile vmware-modules,> which will cause problems as you spotted. Kernel recompile is thus warranted OK, now it's fully clear. Other apps might be different. Professional audio stuff comes to mind, That's exactly my case... I use the self-compiled SVN build of LMMS. Thanks everyone for help. This weekend I'll go for the build. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
On Friday 19 January 2007 17:18, Jens Kubieziel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a friend of mine wants to use Gentoo, but has a poor internet
> connection. We are thinking about a convenient way to get packages. We
> thought about redefining $FETCHCOMMAND to something like
> 'FETCHCOMMAND="echo ${URI}
>
> > package.file'. But that (and also other tries) did not work. What is
>
> the best way
> to get a file of download-URLs to feed to wget?
Not sure of what you mean, isn't that something that can be constructed
massaging the output of emerge -fp ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Richard Fish napisał(a):
> Have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.*.log files? They should reflect
> why the Xgl server is not being accellerated.
Got it! Somewhere around 92% of /var/log/Xorg.94.log, which is logging
Xgl, I've found:
(EE) fglrx(0): Hardware has already been locked.
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0x2000 at 0xb7f7b000
(WW) fglrx(0): ***
(WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! *
(WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) *
(WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available*
(WW) fglrx(0): * *
Hardware's locked? Do they mean that I can render only one X server
simultaneously? They must be kidding...
And near the end of this file:
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
No doubt about it.
What's also interesting at the 96th per cent of Xorg.0.log, standard
server's log, I've got:
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed
(/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
Did portage forgotten about something while emerging ati-drivers? Or
maybe it's my mistake to force AIGLX to start ('Option "AIGLX" "true"'
in xorg.conf)?
> Also, one other option may be to try the opensource radeon driver.
> You can lookup your card's pci ID (use lspci && lspci -n) in
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h to see if it is supported
> or not. If so, you should be able to get aiglx working with
> opensource drivers.
Found it. In the section radeon_PCI_IDS I've found the following line:
{0x1002, 0x4152, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, CHIP_RV350}, \
Please verify my plan. I should recompile my kernel with device drivers
-> character devices -> radeon built in (or as a module) and in
xorg.conf set driver to "radeon". Am I right?
Thanks for your feedback,
Jan
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[gentoo-user] write 'emerge -f' to a file
Hi,
a friend of mine wants to use Gentoo, but has a poor internet connection.
We are thinking about a convenient way to get packages. We thought about
redefining $FETCHCOMMAND to something like 'FETCHCOMMAND="echo ${URI}
package.file'. But that (and also other tries) did not work. What is
the best way
to get a file of download-URLs to feed to wget?
Thanks for any recommendations
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to get rid of errors related to glib
On Friday 19 January 2007 15:26, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > it's a while now since I get errors when portage tries to unmerge > dev-libs/glib-2.10.3 (for example when doing "emerge -avu world). [SNIP] > I added it to package.keywords for a try, as I have this on my desktop > machine without these problems. But it didn't solve this issue. This is an unmerge problem not an emerge problem. The only thing that it might help emerging is another version of portage. > It doesn't make any real problems but it's not set up the correct way > when throwing errors ;) Your system is in an illegal state as you have two versions of glib in the same slot. > Any hints on this? Make sure that you have the latest portage (either latest stable or latest ~arch) i.e. run `emerge -u portage`. If that doesn't fix it I think you should file a bug against portage at bugs.gentoo.org. In the future as well as on bugs.gentoo.org please include `emerge --info` with portage tracebacks. -- Bo Andresen pgp8Xo3Hm38Ed.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:37:27 +0300, qfpvajdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo GNU/Linux at the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one day also for servers). Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be forced to uses for everybody only one system. Any anticipated forced action indicates that there is a problem. Identify the problem and show how Gentoo helps to solve it. Since you do not write about the problem, you should not expect much from the answers, all being based on some guess and/or assumption. For example, since Gentoo is a meta distribution, it may allow everybody to continue to use Linux their own way and still keep the management happy thinking that all are using the same thing. I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. If the choice is between Red Hat Scientific and FreeBSD, you (as an organization) clearly do not know what you need. Thus, Gentoo may be the least risky option since if you ever find out that you need a BSD or even a Solaris kernel, then you can switch to it easier from Gentoo than from Red Hat. Does somebody has some good key arguments? The mines are: - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems - high performance desktop These arguments proof that Gentoo may be used, not that is should be used. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
On 1/19/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When entering default runlevel GDM starts and launches both servers. First one, Standard, has got direct rendering turned on and OpenGL is rendered by fglrx driver. OpenGL apps work fine. On the other hand second server, Xgl, has not got direct rendering, and what is most suspicious, it uses Mesa drivers, which cause Beryl to run at an absolutely unacceptable performance. Why both servers are not rendered using fglrx? Have you got any ideas how to do it? Have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.*.log files? They should reflect why the Xgl server is not being accellerated. Also, one other option may be to try the opensource radeon driver. You can lookup your card's pci ID (use lspci && lspci -n) in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h to see if it is supported or not. If so, you should be able to get aiglx working with opensource drivers. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering
On 1/19/07, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore > allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No... Bah, apologies for silly answer already provided by others. This showed up as a separate thread in my gmail inbox :-( -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x --> 4.1.x : a couple of questions
On Friday 19 January 2007 17:10, brullo nulla wrote: > > Dunno about gcc-4.2, you'll have to look at the gnu roadmap to get > > a hint of when they think it'll move closer to a release > > OK. > > > Not at all necessary. The kernel is a free standing block of C code > > and depends only on itself, so ABI issues with other apps simply > > don;t happen. As long as the kernel and all it's modules were > > compiled with the same compiler you will always be fine. (There are > > exceptions of course but with that rule of thumb you can't go > > wrong) > > Yes, but if I keep my 3.4.x compiled kernel and I recompile modules > in Portage with 4.1, there will be problems, maybe (for example, the > vmmon module of vmware-player). Well, I think I'll recompile. I have > other reasons to do it. Hmmm, yes that's correct. emerge -e world will recompile vmware-modules, which will cause problems as you spotted. Kernel recompile is thus warranted > > Make sure any kernel modules you may have that are not in portage > > also get recompiled. > > Sure (I shouldn't have). I guess also programs not in portage will > have to be recompiled. Again, depends what they are. For example, I use e17 as my wm and while they technically do have ebuilds, they also might as well not be there for all the good they do. I can quite happily emerge -e world and not update e17 and everything still works, at least for that specific case. Other apps might be different. Professional audio stuff comes to mind, those apps often include drivers for fancy hardware that isn;t in the mainline trees, etc etc alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRI doesn't work with Radeon XPress 200M and opensource Drivers
On 1/18/07, Jerônimo Backes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)" (ChipID = 0x5955) I don't have a .19 kernel to look at, but 0x5955 doesn't show up as a supported PCI ID in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h. In fact, no RS480 cards appear there. Until/unless the kernel DRM driver supports it, it won't matter what version of X.org or xf86-video-ati you install. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Hemmann, Volker Armin napisał(a): > On Thursday 18 January 2007 23:47, Jan Stępień wrote: >> On 18 Sty, 19:50, "Hemmann, Volker Armin" >>> >>> Or you can start a second X with xinit. So you would have one >>> desktop (on F7) >>> with Xgl and one (F8) with 'normal' X. >> This method sounds interesting, but I have some doubts. Won't two >> separate X servers be too big challenge for my box? I've got an Athlon >> XP 3000+ (working at 2167 MHz) plus a GB of RAM. Having Xgl loaded in >> the background could be deadly for performance in OpenGL apps on Xorg. >> Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > well, I played ut2004 on my amd64 3200+/gf6600. One instance of Xgl one with > naked X (and a xterm). Worked well enough. > I managed to launch two X servers at one time, however I'm still far from being successful. My /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf [servers] 0=Standard 1=Xgl [server-Standard] name=Standard server command=/usr/bin/X -audit 0 priority=0 [server-Xgl] name=Xgl command=/usr/bin/Xgl :1 -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer flexible=true chooser=false handled=true priority=0 When entering default runlevel GDM starts and launches both servers. First one, Standard, has got direct rendering turned on and OpenGL is rendered by fglrx driver. OpenGL apps work fine. On the other hand second server, Xgl, has not got direct rendering, and what is most suspicious, it uses Mesa drivers, which cause Beryl to run at an absolutely unacceptable performance. Why both servers are not rendered using fglrx? Have you got any ideas how to do it? Regards, Jan -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering
On 1/18/07, Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Is it possible to enable somehow direct rendering on Xgl, therefore allowing OpenGL apps to work as ought to. No...Xgl is always indirect. What graphics hardware are you using? If it is anything but ATI, you should be able to use the aiglx extensions in current (7.1) versions of x.org to get beryl working nicely with direct rendering and video overlays. 2. If the answer to the first questions is "NO", then is there a method of choosing which Xserver to use? Can I choose whether I'd like to launch Xorg or Xgl? Or maybe I can even enable such choice in GDM login screen? I don't know how to do this with GDM, but the easiest way to accomplish this would be to have gdm manage two separate X sessions, one with XGL and the other without, to run on two virtual consoles. You could then switch between them with Ctrl-Alt-Fn sequence. Note that logging in to any display manager doesn't restart the X server, it just starts a session on whatever server the display manager itself is displayed on. So there isn't really any way to change what X server is running from the display manager. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x --> 4.1.x : a couple of questions
Dunno about gcc-4.2, you'll have to look at the gnu roadmap to get a hint of when they think it'll move closer to a release OK. Not at all necessary. The kernel is a free standing block of C code and depends only on itself, so ABI issues with other apps simply don;t happen. As long as the kernel and all it's modules were compiled with the same compiler you will always be fine. (There are exceptions of course but with that rule of thumb you can't go wrong) Yes, but if I keep my 3.4.x compiled kernel and I recompile modules in Portage with 4.1, there will be problems, maybe (for example, the vmmon module of vmware-player). Well, I think I'll recompile. I have other reasons to do it. Make sure any kernel modules you may have that are not in portage also get recompiled. Sure (I shouldn't have). I guess also programs not in portage will have to be recompiled. Thanks again, m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Odd artifacts on screen
Hi, Recently I've noticed that I tend to get strange smudging effects on text displayed in X. I've attached a small (5k) .png that shows the effect (it's the smudge on the word "have"). I've been trying to narrow down some common factors to find what's behind it all. Here's my conclusions: It's not kde, as I get it in gnome as well It's not gnome for the same reason. It's not a kde lib as I get it in firefox too. It only affects text in the client window, the wm decorations are always OK, as is the menus, tab labels, graphics, etc, etc. It's also noticeable in konsole. I don't recall seeing it when I used fglrx, so I presume it started when I reverted back to the radeon driver. The logs show no errors but a few warnings that might be related (details below). Refreshing the display tends to make these effects go away, as does moving the pointer out of and back into the window client area. * My hardware: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] xorg-server settings: nazgul linux # eix xorg-server [I] x11-base/xorg-server Available versions: 1.0.2-r7 1.0.2-r8 (~)1.1.0-r1 (~)1.1.1 1.1.1-r1 (~)1.1.1-r2 (~)1.1.1-r3 1.1.1-r4 [M](~)1.1.99.903-r1 [M]*1.2.99.0 Installed versions: 1.1.1-r4(00:22:57 01/16/07)(-3dfx aiglx -debug -dmx dri -input_devices_acecad -input_devices_aiptek -input_devices_calcomp -input_devices_citron -input_devices_digitaledge -input_devices_dmc -input_devices_dynapro -input_devices_elo2300 -input_devices_elographics input_devices_evdev -input_devices_fpit -input_devices_hyperpen -input_devices_jamstudio -input_devices_joystick input_devices_keyboard -input_devices_magellan -input_devices_microtouch input_devices_mouse -input_devices_mutouch -input_devices_palmax -input_devices_penmount -input_devices_spaceorb -input_devices_summa input_devices_synaptics -input_devices_tek4957 -input_devices_ur98 -input_devices_vmmouse -input_devices_void -input_devices_wacom -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -nptl sdl -video_cards_apm -video_cards_ark -video_cards_chips -video_cards_cirrus -video_cards_cyrix -video_cards_dummy -video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev -video_cards_fglrx -video_cards_glint -video_cards_i128 -video_cards_i740 -video_cards_i810 -video_cards_impact -video_cards_imstt -video_cards_mach64 -video_cards_mga -video_cards_neomagic -video_cards_newport -video_cards_nsc -video_cards_nv -video_cards_nvidia -video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon -video_cards_rendition -video_cards_s3 -video_cards_s3virge -video_cards_savage -video_cards_siliconmotion -video_cards_sis -video_cards_sisusb -video_cards_sunbw2 -video_cards_suncg14 -video_cards_suncg3 -video_cards_suncg6 -video_cards_sunffb -video_cards_sunleo -video_cards_suntcx -video_cards_tdfx -video_cards_tga -video_cards_trident -video_cards_tseng -video_cards_v4l video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga -video_cards_via -video_cards_vmware -video_cards_voodoo xorg -xprint) Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/ Description: X.Org X servers xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" # Get rid of pesky APM warning message Option "NoPM" "true" EndSection Section "Files" # Unscaled bitmap fonts FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" # Truetype fonts FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/TTF" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/corefonts" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/dejavu" # Type1 fonts FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/freefonts" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/sharefonts" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/Type1" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/afms" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/afms/adobe" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/default" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/urw-fonts" # Speedo fonts FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/Speedo" # PCF Bitmap fonts FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/misc" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/artwiz" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/sgi-fonts" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/terminus" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/unifont" # Other misc and empty stuff FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath"/usr/local/share/fonts/" # Scaled bitmap fonts (a serious last resort FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:scaled" FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:scaled" EndSection Section "Module" Load"int10" Load"vbe" Load"glx" Load"extmod" Load"xtrap" Load
[gentoo-user] Trying to get rid of errors related to glib
Hello, gentoo-users, it's a while now since I get errors when portage tries to unmerge dev-libs/glib-2.10.3 (for example when doing "emerge -avu world). I get: >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-libs/glib selected: 2.10.3 protected: none omitted: 1.2.10-r5 2.12.9 >>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. >>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] >>> Waiting 5 seconds before starting... >>> (Control-C to abort)... >>> Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1 >>> Unmerging dev-libs/glib-2.10.3... No package files given... Grabbing a set. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 4049, in ? emerge_main() File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 4030, in emerge_main ldpath_mtimes, raise_on_missing=False): File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 2424, in unmerge vartree=vartree, ldpath_mtimes=ldpath_mtimes) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 3245, in unmerge ldpath_mtimes=ldpath_mtimes) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 5709, in unmerge mydbapi=self.vartree.dbapi, vartree=self.vartree) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 2764, in doebuild use_cache, mydbapi) File "/usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py", line 2512, in doebuild_environment raise portage_exception.UnsupportedAPIException(mycpv, eapi) eix tells me: [U] dev-libs/glib Available versions: (1) 1.2.10-r5 (2) 2.8.6 2.10.3 (~)2.10.3-r1 2.12.4-r1 (~)2.12.6 (~)2.12.7 (~)2.12.9 Installed: 1.2.10-r5(1)(19:24:34 01.09.2006)(-hardened) 2.10.3(2)(12:15:18 22.08.2006)(-debug -doc -hardened) 2.12.9(2)(21:58:58 17.01.2007)(-debug -doc -hardened) Homepage:http://www.gtk.org/ Description: The GLib library of C routines I added it to package.keywords for a try, as I have this on my desktop machine without these problems. But it didn't solve this issue. It doesn't make any real problems but it's not set up the correct way when throwing errors ;) Any hints on this? Thanks, greetings, Stefan. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Jan Stępień napisał(a): > > Fair enough. Firstly I'll check whether AIGLX will be working with my > video card, and in case of failure I'll give xlaunch a shot. > I've reemerged Xorg adding "aiglx" to USE variable, modified /etc/X11/xorg.conf (actually I've been following these instructions: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX) and tried to launch Xorg with AIGLX. Unfortunately efforts were fruitless. Accordingly to article mentioned above I have to enable composite in xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection After launching X server with this setting it results in using Mesa instead of fglrx, which means NO direct rendering, as proved by glxinfo. Beryl cannot be launched because of lack of DRI. If I turn composite off, the X server is driven by fglrx, which gives me direct rendering and Beryl's refusal to start because of lack of composite extension. It's all quite suspicious, taking into account fact that Radeons are listed at the website above as video cards able of running AIGLX. But maybe only on FOSS drivers...? Afterwards I've downloaded xlaunch. When trying to launch an app (in this case armyops) starting xlaunch in a terminal in an existing X server the screen blacks out, probably trying to launch new X session and suddenly restarts GDM, meanwhile killing my original session. I've also tried to use xlaunch in a text console having my previous X server turned on. Results are the same. Have you got any suggestions? Best regards, Jan Stępień -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Iptables
People, The response is in Nelson's mail. Thanks Nelson and thanks to all. On 1/19/07, Pete Pardoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan IPTables support must be compiled into the kernel. I am not in front of my gentoo system so cannot help you find the location in "make menuconfig" but if you poke around you should be able to locate it. Pete On 1/19/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 17:58, Fabrício L. Ribeiro wrote: > > How can I install and run iptables (with conntrack and all other > > modules) in a Gentoo 2006.1 box with kernel generated by genkernel? > > > > I tried "emerge iptables", but when I type "iptables -F" I get > > something like this: > > > > FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. > > iptables v1.3.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables > > who? (do you need to insmod?) > > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. > > genkernel uses a standard .config the first time you use it on a kernel > version. In the kernel sources, all the netfilter options are disabled > by default, and you MUST enable them via menuconfig. > > Did you perhaps omit this step? > > alan > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Pete Pardoe -- FABRÍCIO L. RIBEIRO === [icq: 66770900] [e-mail, gtalk e msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [blog: http://opalavrorio.blogspot.com] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRI doesn't work with Radeon XPress 200M and opensource Drivers
Do you have tried Ati-Drivers?? Alessandro 2007/1/18, Jerônimo Backes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry about the mail with html... I've tried everthing I found on google and the forums and still can't find the way to make DRI work with my ATI Radeon XPress 200M and the opensource drivers. I don't want to install the closed source because I want to use beryl, and these drivers can't do the job, AFAIK. So, here I am, trying to figure out what is going wrong. I made everything I could think of. My Xorg.conf (the interesting part) *Code:* Section "Module" [...] Load"dri" Load"drm" Load"glx" [...] EndSection [...] Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200M (RS480)" Driver "radeon" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" Option "RenderAccel" "on" Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" Option "AccelDFS" "1" Option "GARTSize" "64" Option "AGPMode" "4" Option "EnablePageFlip""1" Option "ColorTiling" "1" Option "dri" "true" Option "AGPFastWrite" "1" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode0666 EndSection [...] #composite is disabled Modules I have enabled in the kernel and that are loaded by /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: *Code:* agpgart amd64-agp drm #this one was built by emerge x11-drm radeon #this one too Dmesg doesn't show anything. However, /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows this: *Code:* [...] (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)" (ChipID = 0x5955) (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xc000 (II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering broken on XPRESS 200 and 200M [...] (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (**) RADEON(0): Setting up final surfaces (**) RADEON(0): Initializing Acceleration (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer. (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled [...] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable (II) Loading local sub module "GLcore" (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so (II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0 [...] The "Direct rendering broken on XPRESS 200 and 200M" part makes me wonder whether or not a workaround exists. What can I do now? ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Il Saggio Coltiva LINUX perchè windows si pianta da solo :-)))
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
I concur, gentoo IMO provides more to the OSS with the ability to compile the whole system wit h debug options, yet with a splitdebug feature to prevent the usefulness of full stack traces all the way to glibc degrading run time performance :) Also, documentation in gentoo and amongst her users are unparalleled. Often when you just google for a generic problem somebody is having with an app or with their distro in linux in general, more often than not the solution or howto will be found in gentoo-wiki.com or the gentoo forums. Debian users are too elitist, most of them will just tell you to RTFM. Gentoo's IRC help room is devoid of such sectarian elitisim. :) Power to the people, freedom for the user. - Kent Also, on top of that, USE flags. debian + app which does graphical stuff but not necessarily uses an actual X still requires you to pull in all the X libraries. no way around it. -- Kent -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to bring down the sync range of your monitor?
2007/1/19, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Friday 19 January 2007 05:16, Chuanwen Wu wrote: > You mean add this line to where? To your video driver options in the appropriate "Device" section. > I add it as below: > > Section "Monitor" > Option "IgnoreEDID" "True" > Identifier "My Monitor" > HorizSync 30 - 60 > VertRefresh 75 > EndSection No, see above. I'm not an expert, but maybe you can try putting Option "DDC" "false" Thank you!But from the man page,I know that this option is only for i810 and i815 chips. in your video driver's "Device" section and see what happens. However, for more info read the man page for the i810 driver: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/i810.4.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My video card is 845G.In another machine which also has the 845G card ,everything is Ok! I don't know why? -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Iptables
Alan IPTables support must be compiled into the kernel. I am not in front of my gentoo system so cannot help you find the location in "make menuconfig" but if you poke around you should be able to locate it. Pete On 1/19/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 17:58, Fabrício L. Ribeiro wrote: > How can I install and run iptables (with conntrack and all other > modules) in a Gentoo 2006.1 box with kernel generated by genkernel? > > I tried "emerge iptables", but when I type "iptables -F" I get > something like this: > > FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. > iptables v1.3.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables > who? (do you need to insmod?) > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. genkernel uses a standard .config the first time you use it on a kernel version. In the kernel sources, all the netfilter options are disabled by default, and you MUST enable them via menuconfig. Did you perhaps omit this step? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Pete Pardoe
[gentoo-user] Unable to establish python symlink
As I was unmerging dev-python/pygtk-2.10.3 I got this: = * Cleaning orphaned Python bytecode from /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages .. * Cleaning orphaned Python bytecode from /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages .. * Purging /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/_lazyutils.py[co] * Purging /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/compat.py[co] * Purging /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py[co] * Purging /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/keysyms.py[co] * Purging /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/deprecation.py[co] * Unable to establish /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pygtk.py symlink * Unable to establish /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pygtk.pth symlink >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... = Is there a need for a manual intervention regarding the symlink message above? Should I ignore it? -- Regards, Mick pgpjRfELgCCsz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Iptables
On Thursday 18 January 2007 17:58, Fabrício L. Ribeiro wrote: > How can I install and run iptables (with conntrack and all other > modules) in a Gentoo 2006.1 box with kernel generated by genkernel? > > I tried "emerge iptables", but when I type "iptables -F" I get > something like this: > > FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. > iptables v1.3.5: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables > who? (do you need to insmod?) > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. genkernel uses a standard .config the first time you use it on a kernel version. In the kernel sources, all the netfilter options are disabled by default, and you MUST enable them via menuconfig. Did you perhaps omit this step? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'
Novensiles divi Flamen napisał(a): > I use a script called xlaunch: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-483004-highlight-xlaunch.html > > I run it on my laptop and have absolutely no problems, the xserver alone won't > kill your performance. > > - Noven Thanks, sounds interesting. Hemmann, Volker Armin napisał(a): > > I don't know which drivers support AIGLX, but with aiglx (or nvidia), > you can > go from eye-candy-to-fast-to-eye-candy with two mouseclicks. (start > beryl-manager, choose beryl from the menu for eye candy or your > other wm, for > speed). > Fredrik Tolf napisał(a): > I'm no expert, but as far as I know, that's the reason why AIGLX > succeeded Xgl. So if you ask me, I think AIGLX (if it works with ATI) > would be the solution to your problem. > Fair enough. Firstly I'll check whether AIGLX will be working with my video card, and in case of failure I'll give xlaunch a shot. Thanks for support, guys, Regards, Jan Stępień -- Mailjan at stepien com pl Jabber jano at jabber aster pl GG 1894343 Web http://stepien.com.pl signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
On Friday 19 January 2007 12:05, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Those are not important in any case where the budget dictates matters > (i.e. everywhere). Those aren't even good things to bring into play > against RH and FBSD, because those do that fine, too. IMHO the only really compelling reason for ever using Gentoo is that at almost all times you get exactly what you want, as opposed to what Red Hat/Debian/et al wants you to have. Red Hat works well if you fall into that category of customer/company that is OK with using a stock standard middle-of-the road distro - this is easily 95%+ of the market. But, if you need something different, you will find that modifying RHEL is a major PITA compared to doing the same thing on Gentoo. For example, I work for a database company and we are a Red Hat partner. I simply will not support our products if they run on anything other than RHEL or SLES, because I don't want the hassle. But all my personal machines and my company notebook run Gentoo, because part of my job is keeping up with new stuff and only Gentoo gets out of the way and lets me do this without restricting me. So I suppose saf's real question ought to be something like "what do we really need that is hard to provide using other (mostly) binary distros?" alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
> -Original Message- > From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 January 2007 10:06 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux? > > > Hi, - snip - > - needed customization can be done the easiest > - admin skills are available > > > -hwh This is where I think Gentoo does come out on top. Are all your machines similar? If so, do a custom install on one, set it up how you like it, it's compiled from source for that specific machine and purpose. Then clone it across the other machines. Gentoo's way of things just makes perfect sense - your OS is pretty much unique to you and it's easy to fine tune it to how you want it. It's updated regularly and if you lack a particular package you are free to make an ebuild for it yourself, maintain overlays for obscure software your company might use etc etc. You can have an NFS share for syncing/updates which means you dont have to download updates for each computer, only once (saves bandwidth = saves money) and all PCs are hence running the same versions of software. That, and of course the wiki. Gentoo might look daunting but people are right - this (meta-)distro has generated some fantastic documentation, and the install guide is (to me, granted I'm not an newb to gentoo) crystal clear. David "I find it hard to use any other distro now" Nelson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Bottom posting here. :D Also has some of the best docs there is. I know because most of the time when I have a problem, someone points me to them. ;-) Dale I concur, gentoo IMO provides more to the OSS with the ability to compile the whole system wit h debug options, yet with a splitdebug feature to prevent the usefulness of full stack traces all the way to glibc degrading run time performance :) Also, documentation in gentoo and amongst her users are unparalleled. Often when you just google for a generic problem somebody is having with an app or with their distro in linux in general, more often than not the solution or howto will be found in gentoo-wiki.com or the gentoo forums. Debian users are too elitist, most of them will just tell you to RTFM. Gentoo's IRC help room is devoid of such sectarian elitisim. :) Power to the people, freedom for the user. - Kent -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3.4.x --> 4.1.x : a couple of questions
On Friday 19 January 2007 00:24, b.n. wrote: > Hi, > > Quite late :), I'm going to do my homework, that is the lng > upgrade to gcc 3.4.x --> 4.1.x > > The subject has been widely discussed, so I've just a couple of > questions to be super-safe: > > - I'm going to follow [1] (of course) and [2] (looks nice). Other > useful guides? Those two cover everything you will need to know in just about all cases > - Is there a new incompatible GCC upgrade going to be unmasked? I see > 4.2 and 4.3 are hard masked, but if there is the suspicion they're > going to be used relatively soon AND they are not binary compatible > with 4.1, I may wait for those. When I did 3.3-->3.4, I waited long, > and 4.1 became stable after a week... :/ Dunno about gcc-4.2, you'll have to look at the gnu roadmap to get a hint of when they think it'll move closer to a release > - Is it mandatory/highly advisable to recompile also the kernel, or > can I postpone? In the first case, when it's better to recompile it > (before all/after all)? Not at all necessary. The kernel is a free standing block of C code and depends only on itself, so ABI issues with other apps simply don;t happen. As long as the kernel and all it's modules were compiled with the same compiler you will always be fine. (There are exceptions of course but with that rule of thumb you can't go wrong) > - Do I have to emerge glibc 2.4 first and gcc later, or I can have > glibc emerged in the emerge -e system? No, just let glibc get recompile along with everything else in emerge -e system. Even if there are some oddities of things still linked against older versions after that step, the following emerge -e world fixes all that > - Any other glitch/tarpit I must be aware of? Make sure any kernel modules you may have that are not in portage also get recompiled. If you have something like this you already know all about it, so I don;t need to give examples. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Hi, On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:37:27 +0100 (CET) qfpvajdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo > GNU/Linux at the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one > day also for servers). Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix > system, but soon we could be forced to uses for everybody only one > system. > > Does somebody has some good key arguments? > > The mines are: > - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support > and full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems > - high performance desktop Those are not important in any case where the budget dictates matters (i.e. everywhere). Those aren't even good things to bring into play against RH and FBSD, because those do that fine, too. What really matters boils down to: - easy, cost-effective maintainance (I doubt that Gentoo will be the winner after all) - more productive for the task (I would say that Gentoo would be that e.g. for software development) - needed customization can be done the easiest - admin skills are available -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Givernaud Omar wrote: > Hello, > > - Gentoo has an important, active, community > - Completly configurable > - power of portage > > > Best regards > > Trax > > qfpvajdy wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo GNU/Linux at >> the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one day also for >> servers). >> Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be >> forced to uses for everybody only one system. >> I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat >> Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. >> >> Does somebody has some good key arguments? >> >> The mines are: >> - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and >> full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems >> - high performance desktop >> >> Best regards, >> saf >> >> >> > > Bottom posting here. :D Also has some of the best docs there is. I know because most of the time when I have a problem, someone points me to them. ;-) Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Hello, - Gentoo has an important, active, community - Completly configurable - power of portage Best regards Trax qfpvajdy wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo GNU/Linux at > the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one day also for > servers). > Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be > forced to uses for everybody only one system. > I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat > Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. > > Does somebody has some good key arguments? > > The mines are: > - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and full > integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems > - high performance desktop > > Best regards, > saf > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Good arguments to use Gentoo Linux?
Hello, I would like to convince my boss and my collegues to use Gentoo GNU/Linux at the company office for the desktop system (and maybe one day also for servers). Currently everybody uses its own Linux/Unix system, but soon we could be forced to uses for everybody only one system. I must probably convince the people to use Gentoo Linux against RedHat Scientific Linux and FreeBSD. Does somebody has some good key arguments? The mines are: - newests packages with newests security updates, encryption support and full integreated KDE desktop to be used in office without problems - high performance desktop Best regards, saf -- E-Mail sent with anti-spam site TrashMail.net! Free disposable email addresses: http://www.trashmail.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router
Hi all! Thank you very much for trying to help me on this strange things. I hope i didn't have overseen a very simple thing which causes this problem. dale wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery files shorewall [ Searching for packages matching shorewall... ] * Contents of net-firewall/shorewall-3.0.8: /etc /etc/init.d /etc/init.d/shorewall /etc/shorewall ... As you can see all paths are containing shorewall, so a simple find would detect all the files and i have nothing of them remaining on my system ian wrote ah yes, I recall the cruft script! Does it exclude any directories? no i have checked that before there is nothing in my lib/findcruft which excludes shorewall from being detected. The only last thing I could suggest is running lsof to see what files are being accessed when you start the net.eth1 script. Thanks, thats a good idea, i will try that. uwe wrote I am using shorewall and it doesn't do it here. I haven't replied in this thread so far because I have not the slightest idea what causes the trouble. Actually I have tried to simulate what Daniel did. Even so, net.eth0 (in my case) doesn't change my iptables rules. Another thing i will try is to reemerge shorewall put my configuration back run shorewall and search for the files which have changed recently. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Licenses
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:12:03 +, Avaricen wrote: > > Btw., shouldn't portage have some kind of flag to at least warn if a > > proprietary package is being pulled in through dependencies? It will have, this has been discussed on the dev list. > I just > > discovered that I have realplayer installed, which was pulled in by > > mplayer. > What do you mean you had realplayer pulled in by Mplayer? emerge mplayer with the real USE flag and it installs realplayer as a dependency. > Also I'm unaware of anyone really caring about licenses. Really? How about RMS? Closer to home, try Duncan on gentoo-amd64! A lot of people care about the agreements they are required to make when using software. -- Neil Bothwick I'm in shape ... Rounds a shape isn't it? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to bring down the sync range of your monitor?
On Friday 19 January 2007 05:16, Chuanwen Wu wrote: > You mean add this line to where? To your video driver options in the appropriate "Device" section. > I add it as below: > > Section "Monitor" > Option "IgnoreEDID" "True" > Identifier "My Monitor" > HorizSync 30 - 60 > VertRefresh 75 > EndSection No, see above. I'm not an expert, but maybe you can try putting Option "DDC" "false" in your video driver's "Device" section and see what happens. However, for more info read the man page for the i810 driver: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/i810.4.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
