Re: [gentoo-user] cyrus-imapd: DBERROR db4: Database handles still open at env

2007-10-11 Thread Arnau Bria
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:52:40 +0200
Alexander Reitzel wrote:

Hi,

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-499634-highlight-db4.html
 does that help?
no, it doens't!

[...]
Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita cyr_expire[4377]: expunged 0 out of 0 messages from 0 
mailboxes
Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita ctl_cyrusdb[4378]: checkpointing cyrus databases
Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita tls_prune[4376]: tls_prune: purged 0 out of 0 entries
Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita ctl_cyrusdb[4378]: done checkpointing cyrus databases
Oct 11 11:59:37 afrodita pop3[4383]: DBERROR db4: Database handles still open 
at environment close
Oct 11 11:59:37 afrodita pop3[4383]: DBERROR db4: Open database handle: 
/var/imap/tls_sessions.db
[...]

I use the STARTTLS option in my MUA... but I always get the error...


# imtest -a arnau -w XX -m login localhost
S: * OK afrodita Cyrus IMAP4 v2.2.13-Gentoo server ready
C: C01 CAPABILITY
S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE 
UIDPLUS ID NO_ATOMIC_RENAME UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY SORT 
THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE IDLE STARTTLS LISTEXT 
LIST-SUBSCRIBED X-NETSCAPE
S: C01 OK Completed
C: L01 LOGIN arnau {8}
S: + go ahead
C: omitted
S: L01 OK User logged in
Authenticated.
Security strength factor: 0


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how do I kick a MAC address off my hostapd WiFi network?

2007-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Albert Hopkins,

 Search Google for if someone uses your property to commit a crime and,
 somewhat surprisingly, the first hit you get is this:
 
 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060320/1636238.shtml

As it says, you could be arrested. you may not be charged, but your
arrest would be on record. that wouldn't be so bad if someone had used
your network to download music, but what about kiddie porn, or visiting
al-Quaeda related web sites?

Once you get into that area, all pretense of presumption of innocence and
reasonable doubt goes out of the window. If you can't prove conclusively
that it wasn't you, you will end up on a watch list. Maybe you still end
up on it if you can prove it wasn't you.


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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Beso,
   i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this error:

bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument

like i'm not able to write on that file.

And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:

  Battery #1 : charged
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C

PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
option in the kernel.
Could this be a problem of DSDT?

regards,
m

On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 2007/10/10, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
  this is the result of the trip_points:
 
  critical (S5):  100C

 wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down when it
 reaches some point
 now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a konsole with
 root priviledges:
 echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150 devices=CPU0 \
 active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
 active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points

 then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've added the
 lines for passive and active  lines.
 that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow down the
 processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down the
 speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
 
 

  which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop switch
 off.
  So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there
 something?

 if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual thermal
 point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just said, if
 your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the polling
 frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and remember to
 actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and not as
 module and reboot and then set the things i've mentioned. after that type
 acpitool (it should be installed by default with the acpi package) and see
 what it says. it should give something like this:

Battery #1 : charging, 46.00%, 01:17:04
AC adapter : on-line
Thermal zone 1 : activ, 58 C

 it indicates, as you can see not only the battery and ac status but also the
 current processor mode (active) and the current thermal temperature if
 you don't have acpitool try acpi -t (you'll surely have either one or the
 other) and it should indicate the thermal state and temperature. if this
 command don't give you these infos then you'll have to be very careful using
 your pc since acpi probably don't support santarosa well. you should then
 unmask newer acpi in portage (adding acpi in /etc/package.keywords) and try
 with the new acpi ( 1.0.6).
 you may need some additional acpi modules, like ibm_acpi for example, but
 that depends on your's pc brand. i'm looking around to see if there were
 someone that had problems with santarosa and linux acpi, but for the moment
 i couldn't find something useful. try what i've said and see if the things
 work. if they work then append the tweak in some script that starts at boot
 like the top of xdm script and you'll have a functional system. let me know
 if you were succesful on that.


  An additional problem is this:
  doing a
  $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/temperature
  it gives only a:
 
  temperature: 0C
 
  My question is:
  even if i change the polling frequency, how the fan can start if the
  temperature gives 0??
  Do you know if it's possible to link the fan start with the core
  temperature instead of the ACPI thermal zone?

 probably the fan don't start since  you have it as a module. i've curently
 had the same problem which solved by compiling it integrated in the kernel.
 the fan in your case should always be on, not always be off

 
  Regards,
  m
 
  
   thats why i told you to do this commanda:
echo 2 seconds 
   /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/polling:frequency
   
this enables the polling of your thermal every 2 seconds. this should
 be
   enough.
   do you have the other file that i mentioned:
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points ?!
   this sets the trip points for your processor. whitout it you governor
 cannot
   understand what to do even if it polls right.
  
   as for the kernel thigs, set these options:
   select processor type: intel core2 instead of normal x86
   CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=y instead of m
   CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y instead of m
   CONFIG_MICROCODE=y instead of m (for what i know cpu micocode is needed
 on
   intels)
   CONFIG_K8_NUMA=n instead of y (this should be the amdk8 numa, that you
   should not need. if it's not then let him be)
   CONFIG_X86_MCE_AMD=n instead of y (you don't need amd mce features since
   they are not included into intel cpus)
   CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32 -- this leaves me a little dazzled: do you really
 have 32
   cpus in your core?! 

[gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
At the end of the emerge process...


 * IMPORTANT: 10 config files in '/etc' need updating.
 * See the CONFIGURATION FILES section of the emerge
 * man page to learn how to update config files.
piggy ~ # etc-update
Scanning Configuration files...
Automerging trivial changes in: /etc/conf.d/crypto-loop
Automerging trivial changes in: /etc/modprobe.d/pnp-aliases
The following is the list of files which need updating, each
configuration file is followed by a list of possible replacement files.
1) /etc/init.d/crypto-loop (1)
2) /etc/udev/udev.conf (1)
Please select a file to edit by entering the corresponding number.

Where are the other 6 files that need updating?
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Re: [gentoo-user] cyrus-imapd: DBERROR db4: Database handles still open at env

2007-10-11 Thread Alexander Reitzel
Im sorry I cant help :/

Am Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2007 09:54:54 schrieb Arnau Bria:
 On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:52:40 +0200
 Alexander Reitzel wrote:

 Hi,

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-499634-highlight-db4.html
  does that help?

 no, it doens't!

 [...]
 Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita cyr_expire[4377]: expunged 0 out of 0 messages
 from 0 mailboxes Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita ctl_cyrusdb[4378]: checkpointing
 cyrus databases Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita tls_prune[4376]: tls_prune: purged
 0 out of 0 entries Oct 11 11:59:22 afrodita ctl_cyrusdb[4378]: done
 checkpointing cyrus databases Oct 11 11:59:37 afrodita pop3[4383]: DBERROR
 db4: Database handles still open at environment close Oct 11 11:59:37
 afrodita pop3[4383]: DBERROR db4: Open database handle:
 /var/imap/tls_sessions.db [...]

 I use the STARTTLS option in my MUA... but I always get the error...


 # imtest -a arnau -w XX -m login localhost
 S: * OK afrodita Cyrus IMAP4 v2.2.13-Gentoo server ready
 C: C01 CAPABILITY
 S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 ACL QUOTA LITERAL+ MAILBOX-REFERRALS
 NAMESPACE UIDPLUS ID NO_ATOMIC_RENAME UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY
 SORT THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE IDLE STARTTLS
 LISTEXT LIST-SUBSCRIBED X-NETSCAPE S: C01 OK Completed
 C: L01 LOGIN arnau {8}
 S: + go ahead
 C: omitted
 S: L01 OK User logged in
 Authenticated.
 Security strength factor: 0


 Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Beso,
   i have an Acer Aspire 5720. I've tried with the acer_acpi, it
compiles well but when it comes to loading it fails, saying
No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.

However as far as i can understood, this module deals with issues of
buttons and hotkey not with ACPI issues.

Yes, my DSDT failed during recompiling, but i have managed to solve
the issues, and now it compiled well (with warning but i'm not
caring). I'll try to recompile the new DSDT in the kernel, maybe it
could help (but i'm not sure).

Regards,
m

On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep you're right i cannot modify my trippoints so this file cannot be
 modified
 i don't think that it's random, since it is 40 c try doing some
 compiling or so and see if it goes up and then stop compiling and do nothing
 and see if it goes down this will tell you if thermal is working
 for dsdt problem you have follow this guide:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
 if it gives you errors when recompiling dsdt then it may be a dsdt problem,
 but if it gives you no problem recompiling it then it may be that you need
 some additional modules like asus_acpi or ibm or toshiba ones based on your
 pc model. i don't know what you're using (i've managed to see some lenovo,
 asus toshiba and acer models around and for what i know every one of then
 needs an additional acpi module to have it work correctly). that was why
 i've asked you for your brand and model name.

 2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
 i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this error:
 
  bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
 
  like i'm not able to write on that file.
 
  And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:
 
Battery #1 : charged
AC adapter : on-line
Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C
 
  PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
  option in the kernel.
  Could this be a problem of DSDT?
 
  regards,
  m
 
  On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   2007/10/10, Marco Calviani  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Beso,
  sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
this is the result of the trip_points:
   
critical (S5):  100C
  
   wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down when
 it
   reaches some point
   now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a konsole
 with
   root priviledges:
   echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150 devices=CPU0 \
   active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
   active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
   /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points
  
   then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've added
 the
   lines for passive and active  lines.
   that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow down
 the
   processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down the
   speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
   
   
  
which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop
 switch
   off.
So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there
   something?
  
   if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual thermal
   point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just said,
 if
   your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the polling
   frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and remember
 to
   actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and not as
   module and reboot and then set the things i've mentioned. after that
 type
   acpitool (it should be installed by default with the acpi package) and
 see
   what it says. it should give something like this:
  
  Battery #1 : charging, 46.00%, 01:17:04
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : activ, 58 C
  
   it indicates, as you can see not only the battery and ac status but also
 the
   current processor mode (active) and the current thermal temperature
 if
   you don't have acpitool try acpi -t (you'll surely have either one or
 the
   other) and it should indicate the thermal state and temperature. if this
   command don't give you these infos then you'll have to be very careful
 using
   your pc since acpi probably don't support santarosa well. you should
 then
   unmask newer acpi in portage (adding acpi in /etc/package.keywords) and
 try
   with the new acpi ( 1.0.6).
   you may need some additional acpi modules, like ibm_acpi for example,
 but
   that depends on your's pc brand. i'm looking around to see if there were
   someone that had problems with santarosa and linux acpi, but for the
 moment
   i couldn't find something useful. try what i've said and see if the
 things
   work. if they work then append the tweak in some script that starts at
 boot
   like the top of xdm script and you'll have a functional system. 

[gentoo-user] Emerging java with gcj

2007-10-11 Thread Florian Philipp

Hi!

I've noticed that the gcj use flag is not enabled by default and 
therefore all java code is compiled to byte code instead of native 
binaries, am I correct?


I wonder how I can change that. Just re-emerge gcc with USE=gcj and 
all packages containing java code? Is it even a good idea?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 Where are the other 6 files that need updating?
 Thanks

Ok, I found bug #194043. Is the one I'm seeing?
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[gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread Marc LEURENT
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Hello everybody,
I would like to know how is it possible to quickly know its public IP address 
behind a NAT from the console...
I'm using links + a My IP search but it sucks

Thanks,

Best Regards

PS: And an easy way to test the type of NAT??
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
Deat Marc,

You may try to do something like this:

 lynx -dump http://www.whatismyip.org/


Sounds nice, huh?!

Regards,

Saffi


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 I would like to know how is it possible to quickly know its public IP
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 I'm using links + a My IP search but it sucks

 Thanks,

 Best Regards

 PS: And an easy way to test the type of NAT??
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Marc LEURENT wrote:

 Hello everybody,
 I would like to know how is it possible to quickly know its public IP
 address behind a NAT from the console... I'm using links + a My IP
 search but it sucks

wget -q -O - http://whatismyip.org

Other similar services might exist.
Of course, do not abuse them.

 PS: And an easy way to test the type of NAT??

What do you mean?
Looking at your router/firewall's config is not enough?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:43:15 +0200 Marc LEURENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to know how is it possible to quickly know its public IP
 address behind a NAT from the console... I'm using links + a My IP
 search but it sucks

You can craft a similar service that just reports the querying IP. You
can e.g. do without the HTTP protocol and just setup a simple server,
e.g. using ucspi-tcp, which sets the TCPREMOTEIP environment variable.

Then you can just use netcat. Of course, for all this you'll need a
server on the net.

OTOH, you could just ask your gateway, if there are means to that (you
didn't tell us anything about it).

And what different methods of NAT are you talking about in this context?


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[gentoo-user] apache wont start when there is no network available

2007-10-11 Thread Matthew R. Lee
Yesterday I installed Apache2 Mysql 5 and php 5 along with tikiwiki 1.9.8 on 
my laptop (localhost).  The idea is to play with and learn how to use 
tikiwiki before I install it on my webhost and revamp my website.
Everything was working fine and is working fine here in the office where I 
have online access.  But when I got home last night with the intention of 
playing with tikiwiki I couldn't because apache wouldn't start.  I wouldn't 
start because net.eth1 couldn't connect to anything.  net.eth1 is my wireless 
connection, net.eth0 is my wired connection.  Neither will start at home 
because I don't have internet at home.
Question, why does apache2 need net.eth1 to be running? How can I get apache2 
going without a network connection? Surely everything it needs is on the 
laptop (localhost)
I've looked at the httpd.conf but I can't see anything relevant 
I'm clearly new to this apache stuff, any help would be appreciated
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
As far as i know unfortunately the Travelmate 5720 exists, together
with the entry level Aspire 5720... I've tried also the new version
and the load error appears at the same level.
I've mailed Carlos of acer-acpi, let's see what comes out.

Thanks again for your help,
i'll let you know about the improvement of this situation,
m


On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 normally all acer have dsdt problems and don't work unless you load
 acer_acpi.
 now, in the portage tree there's only the 0.8.2 version, so you have to go
 here:

  http://code.google.com/p/aceracpi/

 download the latest version and install it. there's a 5720 product listed
 (under travelmate and not aspire, but it may have been an error). simply
 search for acer_acpi in the /lib/modules/2.6.22-gentoo-r8 and delete it then
 do a depmod -a and update the modules installed and retry loading the newly
 compiled driver. if you manage to get it working in this way ok, if not try
 contacting the guy maintaing the aceracpi module and tell him about you
 problems. he may be of help.


 2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
 i have an Acer Aspire 5720. I've tried with the acer_acpi, it
  compiles well but when it comes to loading it fails, saying
  No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.
 
  However as far as i can understood, this module deals with issues of
  buttons and hotkey not with ACPI issues.
 
  Yes, my DSDT failed during recompiling, but i have managed to solve
  the issues, and now it compiled well (with warning but i'm not
  caring). I'll try to recompile the new DSDT in the kernel, maybe it
  could help (but i'm not sure).
 
  Regards,
  m
 
  On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   yep you're right i cannot modify my trippoints so this file cannot
 be
   modified
   i don't think that it's random, since it is 40 c try doing some
   compiling or so and see if it goes up and then stop compiling and do
 nothing
   and see if it goes down this will tell you if thermal is working
   for dsdt problem you have follow this guide:
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
   if it gives you errors when recompiling dsdt then it may be a dsdt
 problem,
   but if it gives you no problem recompiling it then it may be that you
 need
   some additional modules like asus_acpi or ibm or toshiba ones based on
 your
   pc model. i don't know what you're using (i've managed to see some
 lenovo,
   asus toshiba and acer models around and for what i know every one of
 then
   needs an additional acpi module to have it work correctly). that was why
   i've asked you for your brand and model name.
  
   2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Beso,
   i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this
 error:
   
bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
   
like i'm not able to write on that file.
   
And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:
   
  Battery #1 : charged
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C
   
PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
option in the kernel.
Could this be a problem of DSDT?
   
regards,
m
   
On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 2007/10/10, Marco Calviani  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest
 and
  this is the result of the trip_points:
 
  critical (S5):  100C

 wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down
 when
   it
 reaches some point
 now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a
 konsole
   with
 root priviledges:
 echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150
 devices=CPU0 \
 active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
 active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points

 then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've
 added
   the
 lines for passive and active  lines.
 that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow
 down
   the
 processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down
 the
 speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
 
 

  which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop
   switch
 off.
  So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add
 there
 something?

 if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual
 thermal
 point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just
 said,
   if
 your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the
 polling
 frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and
 remember
   to
 actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and
 not as
 module and reboot and then set the things i've 

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Antônio da Veiga
Files with trivial changes will be updated automatically as indicated.

On 10/11/07, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 October 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

  Where are the other 6 files that need updating?
  Thanks

 Ok, I found bug #194043. Is the one I'm seeing?
 Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems after long-due emerge -uDN world

2007-10-11 Thread Roman Zilka
 First, my alt key seems not to work properly. It works fine in regular
 programs (e.g. alt-f in firefox pulls down the file menu properly),
 but not for wm or X-related things. For example, I can no longer use
 ctrl-alt-fx to change to a VT from with X. Control-alt-backspace
 _does_ work, and I can switch to a VT if I do it quick before before
 it finishes restarting, at which point the shortcut works fine until I
 get back into the X display. With my wm (xfwm), the keyboard shortcut
 settings program will detect the alt key fine when I'm setting
 shortcuts, but any shortcut involving alt will not work when I
 actually try to use it. The normal alt-drag to move windows and such
 doesn't work either.

This is caused by the new xkeyboard-config. Downgrading should help. The
bug has been already filed through both Gentoo and freedesktop.org
bugzillas.

Regards
-Roman Zilka
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Marco Antônio da Veiga wrote:

 Files with trivial changes will be updated automatically as indicated.

Yes, but it shows only two of them. Add the two it explicitly requires to 
update, and you still see that, of the initial 10, only four files are 
updated.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/11/07, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  * man page to learn how to update config files.

The 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_%22Best_Practices%22#dispatch-conf
suggests the use of dispatch-conf over etc-update.


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is this normal?

2007-10-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On 10/11/07, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   * man page to learn how to update config files.

 The
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Maintain_Gentoo_-_%22Best_Practices%22#di
spatch-conf suggests the use of dispatch-conf over etc-update.

But the most important thing is, that it keeps record of which 
configuration files you edited and auto-updates those that you haven't 
touched. After it has collected the necessary information it will most 
often only prompt you for intervention where it is really necessary. 

Thus, it seems that my etc-update is behaving like dispatch-conf, 
updating some files (the missing six) without notice. This sound 
strange. Shouldn't etc-update automerge them together with the other 
ones that require only trivial changes?
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Re: [gentoo-user] apache wont start when there is no network available

2007-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:17:40 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote:

 Question, why does apache2 need net.eth1 to be running? How can I get
 apache2 going without a network connection? Surely everything it needs
 is on the laptop (localhost)

Set RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=lo in /etc/conf.d/rc


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[gentoo-user] Stund ebuild

2007-10-11 Thread Marc LEURENT
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Does someone know why we don't have an ebuild of the stun server/client...
Is it because of the Vovida license? or because something else...

I have never made and ebuild, but it could be useful...

See http://sourceforge.net/projects/stun/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread Marc LEURENT
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Ok, the stun client command seems to be my answer!!
I get my external IP address, and the type of NAT I'm using: Indepndent 
Mapping, Port Dependent Filter, preserves ports, no hairpin

Have a nice day

example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~/../stund]$ ./client stunserver.org -v
STUN client version 0.96
Opened port 18804 with fd 3
Opened port 18805 with fd 4
Encoding stun message:
Encoding ChangeRequest: 0

...
.

About to send msg of len 28 to 62.210.194.120:18804
test I = 1
test II = 0
test III = 0
test I(2) = 1
is nat  = 1
mapped IP same = 1
hairpin = 0
preserver port = 1
Primary: Indepndent Mapping, Port Dependent Filter, preserves ports, no hairpin
Return value is 0x17



Hans-Werner Hilse a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:43:15 +0200 Marc LEURENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would like to know how is it possible to quickly know its public IP
 address behind a NAT from the console... I'm using links + a My IP
 search but it sucks
 
 You can craft a similar service that just reports the querying IP. You
 can e.g. do without the HTTP protocol and just setup a simple server,
 e.g. using ucspi-tcp, which sets the TCPREMOTEIP environment variable.
 
 Then you can just use netcat. Of course, for all this you'll need a
 server on the net.
 
 OTOH, you could just ask your gateway, if there are means to that (you
 didn't tell us anything about it).
 
 And what different methods of NAT are you talking about in this context?
 
 
 -hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problem

2007-10-11 Thread Chuanwen Wu
2007/10/11, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:04:11 +0800
 Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just setup a gentoo in my dell1400 laptop,and until now,the sound
  problem is not solved yet.
 
  Here is the problem:
  $ aplay 01.mp3
  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
  aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such file or directory

 This indicates that the dmix module (NOT kernel, but alsa-lib!) might
 be missing.

 I ran into some similar problems, I think they modified the way
 alsa-lib is configured and made it more fine-grained. Missing an
 ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS setting in my /etc/make.conf, I had no plugins at all.

 So I suggest to check your /etc/make.conf, and if not present and you
 want minimum hassle, append that line to /etc/make.conf:
 ---snip
 ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw copy dshare dsnoop extplug file hooks ladspa 
 lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null rate route share shm
 ---snip
 (works for me)
 then re-emerge alsa-lib.

Thanks for your tips!
I have tried, but the result is all the same.

Here is my ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS: (I have also tried your choose too)
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty
extplug file hooks
  iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug
  rate route share shm softvol

Here is my in-kernel alsa options:

M Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
 │ │
  │ │ M   Sequencer support
   │ │
  │ │   Sequencer dummy client
   │ │
  │ │ M   OSS Mixer API
   │ │
  │ │ M   OSS PCM (digital audio) API
   │ │
  │ │ [*] OSS PCM (digital audio) API
- Include plugin system │ │
  │ │ [ ]   OSS Sequencer API
   │ │
  │ │ M   RTC Timer support
   │ │
  │ │ [*] Use RTC as default sequencer
timer  │ │
  │ │ [ ]   Dynamic device file minor
numbers │
│
  │ │ [*]   Support old ALSA API
   │ │
  │ │ [*]   Verbose procfs contents


Here is my /etc/modules.d/alsa:
$ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
option snd cards_limit=1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
# Set this to the correct number of cards.

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF version 1.0.14 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---


I can't find the /dev/dsp :
# ls /dev/dsp
ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory

My os is a 64bit gentoo, so may it be the problem?

  And here is my hardware:
  [...]

 looks OK.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa problem

2007-10-11 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:53:42 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't find the /dev/dsp :
 # ls /dev/dsp
 ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
 
 My os is a 64bit gentoo, so may it be the problem?

No, /dev/dsp is OSS stuff. Aplay shouldn't use that. But it makes me
wonder whether snd_pcm_oss is loaded?

Anyway, that shouldn't bother us here, that's not used by aplay. (BTW:
For me, aplay will play noise when trying to play an MP3, but at least
it *does* play something)

Do you by chance have some older /etc/asound.* files around? Did you
try re-running alsaconf?

If all this doesn't work, try running strace on the aplay process (call
strace aplay) and post back some output. Also, the contents
of /proc/asound/cards and /proc/asound/devices might be interesting.

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[gentoo-user] pam errors in update world - how to trackdown

2007-10-11 Thread reader
I'm getting an error when update world tries to install sys-libs/pam
that tell me this:

 Merging sys-libs/pam-0.99.8.1-r1 to /
 * 
 * Your current setup is using one or more of the following modules,
 * that are not built or supported anymore:
 * pam_pwdb, pam_radius, pam_timestamp
 * If you are in real need for these modules, please contact the maintainers
 * of PAM through http://bugs.gentoo.org/ providing information about its
 * use cases.
 * 
 * ERROR: sys-libs/pam-0.99.8.1-r1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *ebuild.sh, line 1703:  Called dyn_preinst
 *ebuild.sh, line 1142:  Called pkg_preinst
 *   pam-0.99.8.1-r1.ebuild, line  162:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  check_old_modules || die deprecated PAM modules still used
 *  The die message:
 *   deprecated PAM modules still used


Apparently I need to remove one or more of those listed but having a
time finding them.

equery files pam  turns up nothing with those names
equery list|grep  shows no promising hits on pwdb, radius or timestamp

I did find a pwdb package but it shows no hits on those names either.

How might I track this down?  Or is the error really about something
else?

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[gentoo-user] Re: What things wont run without hal being started?

2007-10-11 Thread reader
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 euse -i hal

Thanks, but it doesn't show anything interesting here:

euse -i hal
global use flags (searching: hal)

[+ CD ] hal - Enable Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) support

local use flags (searching: hal)

no matching entries found
===

It was installed with these USE flags:
acpi crypt kernel_linux -debug -dell -disk-partition 
  -doc -kernel_FreeBSD -pcmcia -selinux

Apparently none are global?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What things wont run without hal being started?

2007-10-11 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (11/10/07 11:30) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  euse -i hal
 
 Thanks, but it doesn't show anything interesting here:
 
 euse -i hal
 global use flags (searching: hal)
 
 [+ CD ] hal - Enable Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) support
 
 local use flags (searching: hal)
 
 no matching entries found
 ===
 
 It was installed with these USE flags:
 acpi crypt kernel_linux -debug -dell -disk-partition 
   -doc -kernel_FreeBSD -pcmcia -selinux
 
 Apparently none are global?
 
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Hi,

$quse hal - gives you all packages with 'hal' flag support.
To check for all installed apps currently not using hal:
1.put hal in USE= (/etc/make.conf)
2.run #emerge -N world -p
HTH. Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Easy way to know its public IP address

2007-10-11 Thread b.n.
Etaoin Shrdlu ha scritto:

 What do you mean?
 Looking at your router/firewall's config is not enough?

Not always possible if you have an ISP (like mine) that treats all its
computers as behind a LAN and has routers unreachable by the user with
mostly unknown settings...

m.
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[gentoo-user] Which Partition type does iPod Nano use

2007-10-11 Thread Dan Johansson
I've not had my iPod Nano connected to my Gentoo box in a while and today when 
I connected it I dmesg shows the following: 

8--
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access AppleiPod 2.70 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] 495616 2048-byte hardware sectors (1015 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 64 00 00 08
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] 495616 2048-byte hardware sectors (1015 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 64 00 00 08
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
 sdc: unknown partition table
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete
8--

The Nano get recognized but not it's Partition type (it works OK on a Wintendo 
box). Someone know which partition type an iPod Nano uses?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.2.2 + nvidia-driver = death ?

2007-10-11 Thread Mat Howard
Hi Helmut,

I don't have the latest kernel or gcc-4.2.2 but I get that error every time
I recompile nvidia-drivers.

Try running:
# FEATURES=-sandbox emerge nvidia-drivers

That will bypass the sandbox which is what's causing you problems there.

Mat

On 10/11/07, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 having installed gcc-4.2.2 (and making it the default with the new
 gcc-config - hurrah) I tried to (reinstall)
 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639
 for my new 2.6.23 kernel.
 But it fails - see the attachment.
 At the moment I cannot use a more recent version of the
 nvidia-drivers since these don't support my old video card
 anymore.
 Has anybody had more success with more recent nvidia-drivers
 and gcc-4.2.2 (and perhaps kernel 2.6.23) ?

 Many thanks for any hint,

 Helmut Jarausch

 Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
 RWTH - Aachen University
 D 52056 Aachen, Germany




[gentoo-user] gcc-4.2.2 + nvidia-driver = death ?

2007-10-11 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

having installed gcc-4.2.2 (and making it the default with the new
gcc-config - hurrah) I tried to (reinstall) 
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639
for my new 2.6.23 kernel.
But it fails - see the attachment.
At the moment I cannot use a more recent version of the
nvidia-drivers since these don't support my old video card
anymore.
Has anybody had more success with more recent nvidia-drivers
and gcc-4.2.2 (and perhaps kernel 2.6.23) ?

Many thanks for any hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
 *  The die message:
 *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes 
 V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/build clean 
module.
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if 
relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/temp/build.log'.
 *
--- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---
LOG FILE = 
/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-x11-drivers_-_nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639-32643.log

open_wr:   /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/null.gcda
open_wr:   /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/null.gcda
open_wr:   /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/null.gcda
open_wr:   /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/null.gcda
 Determining the location of the kernel source code
 Found kernel source directory:
 /usr/src/linux
 Found kernel object directory:
 /lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/build
 Found sources for kernel version:
 2.6.23-gentoo
 Checking for MTRR support ...
 Unpacking source...
Creating directory NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0
Verifying archive integrity... OK
Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 
1.0-9639..
 Applying NVIDIA_glx-defines.patch ...
 Applying NVIDIA_glx-glheader.patch ...
 Applying NVIDIA_i2c-hwmon.patch ...
 Converting Makefile.kbuild to use M= instead of SUBDIRS= ...
 Source unpacked.
 Compiling source in 
 /var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv
  ...
 Preparing nvidia module

NVIDIA: calling KBUILD...
make CC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/build 
KBUILD_VERBOSE=1 -C /usr/src/linux 
 
M=/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv
 modules
make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make 
rule.
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/build \
KBUILD_SRC=/usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo \

KBUILD_EXTMOD=/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv
 
-f /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/Makefile modules
test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || (
\
echo;   \
echo   ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.;   \
echo  include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are 
missing.;  \
echo  Run 'make oldconfig  make prepare' on kernel src to 
fix it.;  \
echo;   \
/bin/false)
mkdir -p 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv/.tmp_versions
rm -f 
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv/.tmp_versions/*
make -f /usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/scripts/Makefile.build 
 
obj=/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv
echo \#define NV_COMPILER \`i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -v 21 | tail -n 1`\  
  
/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv/nv_compiler.h
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
-Wp,-MD,/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/
work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv/.nv.o.d  -nostdinc -isystem
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.2.2/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude 
-Iinclude2 -I/usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/include -include 
include/linux/autoconf.h  

-I/var/tmp/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.9639/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg0/usr/src/nv
 -Wall -Wundef 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-Werror-implicit-function-declaration 
-O2 -pipe -msoft-float -mregparm=3 -freg-struct-return 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -mtune=pentium3 
-mtune=generic -ffreestanding -maccumulate-outgoing-args -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 
-I/usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo/include/asm-i386/mach-default 
-Iinclude/asm-i386/mach-default 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-stack-protector -Wdeclaration-after-statement 
-Wno-pointer-sign  


Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.2.2 + nvidia-driver = death ?

2007-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:28:16 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 Has anybody had more success with more recent nvidia-drivers
 and gcc-4.2.2 (and perhaps kernel 2.6.23) ?

It's the later kernel that is triggering this bug, although it is a
fairly old one. FEATURES=-sandbox works round the problem, but it's not
a fix.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135745


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems after long-due emerge -uDN world

2007-10-11 Thread Henk Boom
On 11/10/2007, Roman Zilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is caused by the new xkeyboard-config. Downgrading should help. The
 bug has been already filed through both Gentoo and freedesktop.org
 bugzillas.

Thanks! Downgrading to version 0.8 fixed the alt key problem. I had
tried googling for the problem before asking here, but the results
were pretty much all noise, since it seems that many people have
miscellaneous problems related to the alt/meta keys.

Now all I have to worry about is the fonts =).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems after long-due emerge -uDN world

2007-10-11 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Henk Boom wrote:

 First, my alt key seems not to work properly. It works fine in regular
 programs (e.g. alt-f in firefox pulls down the file menu properly),
 but not for wm or X-related things. For example, I can no longer use
 ctrl-alt-fx to change to a VT from with X.

Just FYI, I had the same problem. For inexplicable reasons, it disappeared 
when I configured the keyboard layout ONLY through xorg.conf, disabling all 
keyboard layout functionality in KDE Control Center. For some reason, 
CTRL+ALT+Fn only displayed the letter V when I pressed them in Konsole.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.2.2 + nvidia-driver = death ?

2007-10-11 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:28:16 +0200 (CEST)
Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 having installed gcc-4.2.2 (and making it the default with the new
 gcc-config - hurrah) 

You have a gcc-config that works??? What version is that, please?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Audio/Mpeg

2007-10-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/11/07, sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Firefox is complaining that a plugin is not available for audio/mpeg
 support.
 Any recommendations on getting support?

Not sure if it helps:
emerge mplayerplug-in

and recently (by the same author(s))
emerge gnome-mplayer gecko-mediaplayer

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What things wont run without hal being started?

2007-10-11 Thread Henk Boom
On 11/10/2007, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 $quse hal - gives you all packages with 'hal' flag support.
 To check for all installed apps currently not using hal:
 1.put hal in USE= (/etc/make.conf)
 2.run #emerge -N world -p

What if a package requires HAL, and not optionally? For example, I
know from experience that gnome-power-manager will not start without
hal running, but it doesn't have the hal use flag.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What things wont run without hal being started?

2007-10-11 Thread Henk Boom
On 11/10/2007, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 $quse hal - gives you all packages with 'hal' flag support.
 To check for all installed apps currently not using hal:
 1.put hal in USE= (/etc/make.conf)
 2.run #emerge -N world -p

What if a package requires HAL, and not optionally? For example, I
know from experience that gnome-power-manager will not start without
hal running, but it doesn't have the hal use flag.

Henk Boom
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What things wont run without hal being started?

2007-10-11 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (11/10/07 18:01) Henk Boom wrote:
 On 11/10/2007, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  $quse hal - gives you all packages with 'hal' flag support.
  To check for all installed apps currently not using hal:
  1.put hal in USE= (/etc/make.conf)
  2.run #emerge -N world -p
 
 What if a package requires HAL, and not optionally? For example, I
 know from experience that gnome-power-manager will not start without
 hal running, but it doesn't have the hal use flag.
 
 Henk Boom
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Hi,

If 'hal' is a required dependency emerge will require to install it
before the app in question.
If correctly written the start-up scripts will check/require 'hal' to be
running. Or at least post a message (elog) about it.
HTH. Rumen
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