Re: [gentoo-user] ALT/GR (Right ALT) as an RETURN?

2008-02-04 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Dan Farrell pisze:

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:32:47 +0100
Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Mateusz Mierzwinski pisze:

Ok, I don't know what's going on, but My laptop have issue - when I 
press ALT/GR (Right ALT) it works like RETURN, executes

applications, sends messages by Kadu. What's wrong? I've try
control panel in KDE, but this wont work in regionals settings.
Periphernals  Keyboard also don't work. My keyboard is OK because
in commandline everything is OK.

Any suggestions?
  


No, just questions: 

 1) what kind of keyboard do you use 
 2) what kind of keyboard setting do you use at the console

 3) What is your keyboard setting in X

Can you answer these?
  


I'm using standard laptop keyboard with windows key (some kind like 
generic-101/102 keys). In console i use standard settings (don't change 
anything because I don't need Polish keyboard in konsole).

My Xorg setting of keyboard:

Section InputDevice

   IdentifierKeyboard1
   Driverkbd

   Option AutoRepeat 500 30
   Option XkbRulesxorg
   Option XkbModelpc105
   Option XkbLayoutpl

EndSection

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VNC viewer in listening mode

2008-02-04 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 2 February 2008, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 Would you know if krdc can work in listening mode (like the
 traditional vncviewer can?).

 If krdc won't cut it, then should I emerge vnc or tightvnc?  Which is
 better? I'm only interested on the viewer part to connect to a remote
 WinXP machine which is seating behind a firewall.

AFAIK, both realvnc and tightvnc clients can run in listen mode.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-04 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
 I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is
deprecated.
 I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
 start it silently fail.
 I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
 Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
 Does anybody want to help me guess?


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Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge
pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run
again. If
renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
happend, wrote here.

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renaming .gaim to dot.gaim makes no difference.

I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Alan McKinnon pisze:

On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:

  

Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).



Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

  
Graphical user interface / frontend - as You like ;). I've been using 
portato for curious, but there's nothing like console experience ;).

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Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?

2008-02-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 February 2008 17:03:49 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 16:47 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Friday 01 February 2008 13:21:38 Michael Sullivan wrote:
   Hos anyone been able to get 6.0.2 to work?
 
  Of what? I'm running app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.4.56528 with no
  problems.
 
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 app-emulation/vmware-workstation-6.0.2

Maybe it'd be worth trying vmware-server instead?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VNC viewer in listening mode

2008-02-04 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 4 February 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 AFAIK, both realvnc and tightvnc clients can run in listen mode.

I must add that, depending on the VNC server installed on the windows 
box, listening mode might not work correctly.

For example, I remember that, with both realvnc  4 and ultravnc on the 
server, the listening client on linux was not working. I had to use 
realvnc 3.3.7 both for the server (windows) and the client (linux).
However, that was some time ago, and things hopefully have changed now.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
On Feb 3, 2008 6:49 PM, Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +
 Robert Stockdale IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  snipped...

 Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
 setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.

 The others I'm not positive of.



OK, I've got it pared down to some degree. These few block programs in
portage are still preventing a world update and I don't believe I can remove
them without destroying my system. They are:

[blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)
[blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev-
3.23.1)

Total: 617 packages (568 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 35 new, 9 in new slots, 3
blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


I'm thinking that there must be a way to hold back the upgrade on these last
three files in order to permit the portage upgrade.
When I do emerge -pv portage I get:

java bob # emerge -pv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

[ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
[ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE=-bindist -gmp
-test 151 kB [0]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
then resume the merge.
[ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)

Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage


So it looks like the important one to look at is:
  sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
So if I could prevent the update to bash then portage should update. Is this
correct? How would I do this?

Thank you,
Bob


Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Dale
Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

 On Feb 3, 2008 6:49 PM, Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +
 Robert Stockdale IV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  snipped...

 Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
 setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.

 The others I'm not positive of.



 OK, I've got it pared down to some degree. These few block programs in
 portage are still preventing a world update and I don't believe I can
 remove them without destroying my system. They are:

 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
 [blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
 sys-apps/makedev-3.23.1)

 Total: 617 packages (568 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 35 new, 9 in new
 slots, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
 Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


 I'm thinking that there must be a way to hold back the upgrade on
 these last three files in order to permit the portage upgrade.
 When I do emerge -pv portage I get:

 java bob # emerge -pv portage

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1
 http://1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
 [ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE=-bindist
 -gmp -test 151 kB [0]
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 http://2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1]
 USE=-build -doc -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
 *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
 then resume the merge.
 [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
 -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)

 Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage


 So it looks like the important one to look at is:
   sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
 So if I could prevent the update to bash then portage should update.
 Is this correct? How would I do this?

 Thank you,
 Bob

He wrote this earlier.  Quoting his reply:

 On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

   
  [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
  app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
 

 emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
 does not block

   


So hopefully if you sync again that will fix that.  Hopefully nothing
else will pop up tho.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking 
 app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)

emerge --oneshot --nodeps portage
and then a normal
emerge portage

 [blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)

I think somebody has mentioned this before ksync is part of the new
kdelibs so unmerge it to merge the new kdelibs.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-expat-upgrading.xml

 [blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking 
 sys-apps/makedev-3.23.1)

Not 100% sure but you can try the same as above for portage:

emerge --oneshot --nodeps baselayout
emerge baselayout

Then hopefully you are ready for a world update!

By the way that are the reasons you have chosen Sabayon over the
original Gentoo?
Just curios.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
 Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
  Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 
  Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

 Graphical User Interface.

 Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.

I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
post :-)

I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
much a command line job


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
   
 Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
 
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
   
 Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 
 Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?
   
 Graphical User Interface.

 Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.
 

 I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
 post :-)

 I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
 much a command line job


   

Well, I emerged porthole just to see what it looks like.  Well, It's
there.  I then went to a command line to see what was really going on.  O_O

eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
with something else??

Dale

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[gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread keith
When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the next
line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
nothing. Any idea what broke vim?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
GUI = Graphical User Interface

On 2/4/08, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:31:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

   Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 
  Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

 Konsole :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Falko
On Feb 4, 2008 7:53 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the next
 line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
 it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
 nothing. Any idea what broke vim?

What happens when you press i? Based on what you describe; nothing
will happen; you remain in the bash shell. Try emerge gentoolkit 
revdep-rebuild
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[gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Kevin's previous message alerted me to the fact that Gaim has been deprecated.  
Sure enough I see this:

[D] net-im/gaim
 Available versions:  
[M] 1.5.0 [cjk debug eds gnutls krb4 nas nls perl silc 
spell tcl tk]
 Installed versions:  1.5.0(00:46:02 08/15/07)(nls perl 
spell -cjk -debug -eds -gnutls -krb4 -nas -silc -tcl -tk)
 Homepage:http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
 Description: GTK Instant Messenger client

However, when I try to update world nothing comes up to tell me that Gaim is 
no more:

# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

Last I recall, portage would tell you that a particular package is no longer 
in the tree and ask you to unmerge it.  What's up here?

Some additional info:
==
# less /etc/portage/package.keywords | grep net-im/gaim
#
# less /etc/portage/package.mask | grep -i net-im/gaim
# 
# emerge -pDv gaim

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy gaim have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- net-im/gaim-1.5.0 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Olivier Crete [EMAIL PROTECTED] (08 Dec 2007)
# Remove gaim and its plugins (now its called pidgin)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or 
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.

# emerge -pDv pidgin

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] dev-python/pyrex-0.9.4.1  0 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.80.2  USE=-test 443 kB 
[ebuild  N] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.6  USE=-debug 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1  USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl 
spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile 
(-networkmanager) -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 8,674 kB 

Total: 4 packages (4 new), Size of downloads: 9,117 kB
==
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:13:26 -0200, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:

 GUI = Graphical User Interface

Really? You don't say! ;-)

PS Please don't top post. Flow of text messes up it does. Harder reading
makes much.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Stroller


On 4 Feb 2008, at 11:29, Dale wrote:

...
eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
with something else??


I've been using eix for a while  am really comfortable with it.

Replacement would seem to be WELL overdue, by my previous experiences  
with Gentoo tools.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?

 It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
 issues with AOL and their AIM product.

From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see the 
portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had Gaim 
installed?

Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen the 
portage warning?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Dale wrote:
 eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
 with something else??

You've only just found eix You must have bandwidth 
issues :-) :-)

eix is the best thing to hit portage since portage. Or maybe paludis. I 
find gentoo virtually unusable without eix

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag, 4. Februar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
   Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 
  Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

 A GUY who lost his `

mutter mutter grumble grumble

These kids with their new-fangled contraptions. I'd just gotten the hang 
of W now they want me to switch to X. They say it's New! Improved! 
Better! and uses some weird thing called a mouse. Bloody rodents.

Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] VNC viewer in listening mode

2008-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 February 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Monday 4 February 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
  AFAIK, both realvnc and tightvnc clients can run in listen mode.

 I must add that, depending on the VNC server installed on the windows
 box, listening mode might not work correctly.

 For example, I remember that, with both realvnc  4 and ultravnc on the
 server, the listening client on linux was not working. I had to use
 realvnc 3.3.7 both for the server (windows) and the client (linux).
 However, that was some time ago, and things hopefully have changed now.

Hmm tried it with vncviewer -listen from a Knoppix 5.0 DVD and could not 
connect from the remote MSWindows machine.  It could well be incompatible 
versions I guess.

Thanks for pointing this out.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Mick wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
   Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
 
  It's been dead for some time since AOL had a hissy fit over the
  name.
 
  The new gaim is now called pidgin. It's not a new product really,
  just a version bump that is a name change.
 
  It was hard masked in portage very recently. Unfortunately for gaim
  users, the upgrade consists of unmerge gaim, merge pidgin, import
  settings.

 OK, I can surely do that, but shouldn't portage warn me about Gaim
 being hard masked?  Is my portage borked, or is this behaviour no
 longer valid/expected?

No, there's nothing wrong with your system. Portage will allow you to 
have an installed package that isn't in the tree anymore as a copy of 
the ebuild is in /var somewhere. Maybe if you set verbose logging it 
will alert you but this isn't an error. If it were, people would be 
forced to remove stuff everytime some dev masked a package on a whim. 

Remerging gaim is another story, then portage will correctly tell you 
that it can't do the update.

In short, your gentoo is working correctly as designed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] core-2 advise

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, James wrote:
 If so, and  I wanted to convert this machine to 64 bit Gentoo OS,
 then I'd just edit the make.conf :

 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu to
 CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

 and 'emerge -e world'

Previous posts on this list indicate that there is no upgrade path from 
32 to 64 bit.

The correct method is to reinstall.

Apparently it's not as simple as emerge -e world as that would involve 
building a 64 bit toolchain and system libs with a 32 bit compiler, 
which doesn't work. If I have the details wrong, I'm sure someone will 
come along soon and correct me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 2/4/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
  Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
 
  It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
  issues with AOL and their AIM product.

 From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see
 the
 portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had
 Gaim
 installed?

 Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen the
 portage warning?
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I can; and I'm the OP.

I don't know where the warning would have been seen; generally there's so
much stuff
that any particular item has to really push to be noticed.  But at that
time, all ewarn and einfo
messages were being mailed to me, but I don't remember seeing this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:31:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).  
 
 Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

Konsole :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote:

 On 4 Feb 2008, at 11:29, Dale wrote:
 ...
 eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
 with something else??

 I've been using eix for a while  am really comfortable with it.

 Replacement would seem to be WELL overdue, by my previous experiences
 with Gentoo tools.

 Stroller.

Yea, when I got sort of used to etcat, they replaced it with eix.  I
just recently started to really using eix a fair bit.  I suspect they
are getting a new thing ready.  Sort of keep me confused ya know.   ;-)

Oh well, at least it keeps getting better.  LFS would be fun for sure. 
We'd be writing scripts like crazy.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)
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[gentoo-user] Re: core-2 advise

2008-02-04 Thread James
Juul Spies sjakie at ouweouwe.nl writes:


 Alan McKinnon schreef:
 
 Indeed reinstall is the best method of upgrading. I'm also not familiar 
 with details but apparently it is not as easy as changing CHOST en 
 remerge world.


Thanks guys, I guess it'll have to wait for now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] core-2 advise

2008-02-04 Thread Juul Spies

Alan McKinnon schreef:

On Monday 04 February 2008, James wrote:
  

If so, and  I wanted to convert this machine to 64 bit Gentoo OS,
then I'd just edit the make.conf :

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu to
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

and 'emerge -e world'



Previous posts on this list indicate that there is no upgrade path from 
32 to 64 bit.


The correct method is to reinstall.

Apparently it's not as simple as emerge -e world as that would involve 
building a 64 bit toolchain and system libs with a 32 bit compiler, 
which doesn't work. If I have the details wrong, I'm sure someone will 
come along soon and correct me.
  
Indeed reinstall is the best method of upgrading. I'm also not familiar 
with details but apparently it is not as easy as changing CHOST en 
remerge world.


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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Falko
On Feb 4, 2008 10:00 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 vim-7.1.213 and revdep-rebuild shown no breakage
Here somethings you can try:

ls -lah `which vim`  make sure the output is:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.4M Nov 15 01:25 /usr/bin/vim

Find a vim binary somewhere, extract it, and see if it runs
correctly.

You have Gentoo default /etc/vim/vimrc? Do you have your own .vimrc?
If yes, delete the .vimrc file and try again.

Recompile with different USE flags. What does emerge -pv vim say?

You might want to contact vim devs.

 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 08:46 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
  On Feb 4, 2008 7:53 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the next
   line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
   it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
   nothing. Any idea what broke vim?
  
  What happens when you press i? Based on what you describe; nothing
  will happen; you remain in the bash shell. Try emerge gentoolkit 
  revdep-rebuild
  Also what version of vim?
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Firewall UPNP

2008-02-04 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer
I would like to be able to fully participate in Torrents for downloading
ISO, such as the Gentoo ISOs. However, since my gentoo/iptables firewall
currently is not forwarding any ports to my client systems, so I appear
as a torrent leech - I'd like to try to change that.

I'm using kTorrent under Gentoo/KDE, which supports interfacing via UPNP
to enable specific forwarding, which I would like to try to take
advantage of for security reasons.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_UPnP_with_IPTables

I noticed the URL above on how to do UPNP via linux-igd, but I'm not
sure that's what I want. I searched emerge for UPNP and saw a number of
packages in the list. I was wondering if anyone here has had any
experience (good/bad/otherwise) on setting up a Gentoo-based ipTables
Firewall for UPNP, or what packages people might recommend for it.

While I am mostly concerned with having kTorrent work on my Gentoo
Desktop, I might also be interested in using BitTorrent on a Win2k
Laptop too - I don't know if it supports UPnP or not (possible), but if
it was easy to support, I might be inclined to. (If not, no big loss.)
So I'd welcome thoughts on that as well towards the above questions.

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?

 It's been dead for some time since AOL had a hissy fit over the name.

 The new gaim is now called pidgin. It's not a new product really, just a
 version bump that is a name change.

 It was hard masked in portage very recently. Unfortunately for gaim
 users, the upgrade consists of unmerge gaim, merge pidgin, import
 settings.

OK, I can surely do that, but shouldn't portage warn me about Gaim being hard 
masked?  Is my portage borked, or is this behaviour no longer valid/expected?
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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread keith
okay heres my use flags

[ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-7.1.213  USE=acl bash-completion gpm
nls perl python vim-pager vim-with-x -cscope -minimal -ruby 8,876 kB 

ls -lah 'which vim' returned no such file or directory

whereis vim returns /usr/bin/vim /usr/share/vim

I removed the /etc/vim/vimrc and still no luck.


On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 14:04 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
 On Feb 4, 2008 10:00 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  vim-7.1.213 and revdep-rebuild shown no breakage
 Here somethings you can try:
 
 ls -lah `which vim`  make sure the output is:
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.4M Nov 15 01:25 /usr/bin/vim
 
 Find a vim binary somewhere, extract it, and see if it runs
 correctly.
 
 You have Gentoo default /etc/vim/vimrc? Do you have your own .vimrc?
 If yes, delete the .vimrc file and try again.
 
 Recompile with different USE flags. What does emerge -pv vim say?
 
 You might want to contact vim devs.
 
  On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 08:46 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
   On Feb 4, 2008 7:53 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the next
line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
nothing. Any idea what broke vim?
   
   What happens when you press i? Based on what you describe; nothing
   will happen; you remain in the bash shell. Try emerge gentoolkit 
   revdep-rebuild
   Also what version of vim?
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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread keith
vim-7.1.213 and revdep-rebuild shown no breakage
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 08:46 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
 On Feb 4, 2008 7:53 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the next
  line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
  it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
  nothing. Any idea what broke vim?
 
 What happens when you press i? Based on what you describe; nothing
 will happen; you remain in the bash shell. Try emerge gentoolkit 
 revdep-rebuild
 Also what version of vim?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
 Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
 Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?
 Graphical User Interface.

 Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.
 
 I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
 post :-)

Ops. My irony sensors must be badly broken today. Probably spending
nights writing a badly procrastinated ph.d. thesis does not help. :)

 I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
 much a command line job

Well, on Debian-like systems I absolutely *love* Synaptic. To me, it's
what a user-friendly package manager should look like.
I have only very little experience with Portage GUIs. Problem, it seems,
is that there isn't one single project where people is focused (Kuroo,
Porthole, and now Portato which I didn't know).

The Portage CLI is fine with me, but I'd like to know about the GUI
options. They can always be handy.

(On my wild dreams, once I thought to write a Python-based FUSE
filesystem abstracting Portage. I did never ever went further than the
very early planning phase, mostly because FUSE documentation was a
nightmare. I'd like to know what people think of it,anyway.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?

2008-02-04 Thread Michael Higgins
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:47:28 +
Peter Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 01 February 2008 13:21:38 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
  Hos anyone been able to get 6.0.2 to work?
 

Yes. I posted pretty much the whole session to the list.

app-emulation/vmware-workstation-6.0.2.59824 is what I installed.

(BTW, I started the thread. Perhaps you can find the post where I show
what I ran into in your mail storage or some online archive.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr

Dale wrote:

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
  

Alan McKinnon ha scritto:


On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
  

Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).


Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?
  

Graphical User Interface.

Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.

I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
post :-)


I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
much a command line job



  


Well, I emerged porthole just to see what it looks like.  Well, It's
there.  I then went to a command line to see what was really going on.  O_O

eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
with something else??

Dale

:-)  :-)
I like Porthole just to look at the big picture, not to install, remove, 
or anything. It is a
great tool to see what you have installed, what you might like to 
install, and look at the ebuilds.

Just another tool.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 2/4/08, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:11 +, Mick wrote:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
   Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
  
   It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
   issues with AOL and their AIM product.
 
  From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see
 the
  portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had
 Gaim
  installed?
 
  Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen
 the
  portage warning?

 I have gaim installed, and I use it every day, but I haven't seen any
 warnings from portage.  Will pidgin  be able to read my ~/.gaim/* files?


Yes.  But be aware that if you keep logs of your IM and chat traffic, that
the first time pidgin starts will take a LONG time.  But when it's over, you
will have everything, or at least I did.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 03:11:55PM +, Mick wrote:
 From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see the 
 portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had Gaim 
 installed?
 
 Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen the 
 portage warning?

Yes, I can confirm that. emerge --search gaim brings up

*  net-im/gaim [ Masked ]
  Latest version available: 1.5.0
  Latest version installed: 1.5.0
  Size of files: 5,979 kB
  Homepage:  http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
  Description:   GTK Instant Messenger client
  License:   GPL-2

I do know about the pidgin/gaim thing from reading this mailing list.
But even in my recent emerge --update --deep world the fact that gaim
is hardmasked was not mentioned. For example, emerge --pretend
--update --deep world only mentions the following

[10:55 AM]wwong ~ $ emerge --pretend --update --deep world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r3 [1.85-r2] 
[ebuild U ] mail-client/mutt-1.5.16 [1.5.13-r1] USE=-qdbm% -sidebar% 
-smtp% 
[ebuild U ] app-emulation/wine-0.9.46 [0.9.8-r1] USE=xml%* -dbus% -hal% 
[ebuild U ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p24929-r1 [1.0_rc1-r2] USE=a52%* 
mp3%* pnm%* quicktime%* srt%* -amrnb% -amrwb% -cddb% -cdio% -ftp% -ladspa% 
-md5sum% -mp2% -nemesi% -pulseaudio% -radio% -rar% (-ssse3) -teletext% -tivo% 
-vidix% -zoran% VIDEO_CARDS=-mga% -s3virge% -tdfx% -vesa% 
[ebuild U ] media-sound/lilypond-2.10.33 [2.5.2] USE=-debug% -emacs% 
-profile% 
[ebuild U ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.8.10 [0.16.8.8] 

Only if I directly specify emerge gaim or emerge --emptytree world
will it show the warning that All ebuilds that could satisfy gaim
have been masked. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Michael Sullivan

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:11 +, Mick wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
  Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?
 
  It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
  issues with AOL and their AIM product.
 
 From Michael Sullivan's comment shall I assume that you also did not see the 
 portage warning about Gaim-over (pun intended) or perhaps you never had Gaim 
 installed?
 
 Anyone else who can confirm that they have Gaim installed but not seen the 
 portage warning?

I have gaim installed, and I use it every day, but I haven't seen any
warnings from portage.  Will pidgin  be able to read my ~/.gaim/* files?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Mick wrote:
  On Monday 04 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:

   It was hard masked in portage very recently. Unfortunately for gaim
   users, the upgrade consists of unmerge gaim, merge pidgin, import
   settings.
 
  OK, I can surely do that, but shouldn't portage warn me about Gaim
  being hard masked?  Is my portage borked, or is this behaviour no
  longer valid/expected?

 No, there's nothing wrong with your system. Portage will allow you to
 have an installed package that isn't in the tree anymore as a copy of
 the ebuild is in /var somewhere. Maybe if you set verbose logging it
 will alert you but this isn't an error. If it were, people would be
 forced to remove stuff everytime some dev masked a package on a whim.

 Remerging gaim is another story, then portage will correctly tell you
 that it can't do the update.

 In short, your gentoo is working correctly as designed.

Thanks Alan,  I can remember though that XMMS (and other packages) were 
flagged up as hard masked/not in the tree by Portage.  Am I right?
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[gentoo-user] core-2 advise

2008-02-04 Thread James
Hello,

We have one gentoo system running 32bit gentoo:

CFLAGS=-march=prescott -O2 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

cpuinfo:

vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100  @ 1.80GHz


Is the 64bit gentoo stable(recommended) on this core-2 arch?

If so, and  I wanted to convert this machine to 64 bit Gentoo OS, then
I'd just edit the make.conf :

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu to 
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu 

and 'emerge -e world'

Since I'm recompiling everything  I wanted to use -fomit-frame-pointer
could I just and that to the CFLAGS without issue?

or 
Is there a wiki with some more details on the conversions that I should follow?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:13:26 -0200, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:
  GUI = Graphical User Interface

 Really? You don't say! ;-)

 PS Please don't top post. Flow of text messes up it does. Harder
 reading makes much.

Yoda, is that really you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Michael Sullivan

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 08:14 +, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Kevin's previous message alerted me to the fact that Gaim has been 
 deprecated.  
 Sure enough I see this:
 
 [D] net-im/gaim
  Available versions:  
 [M] 1.5.0 [cjk debug eds gnutls krb4 nas nls perl silc 
 spell tcl tk]
  Installed versions:  1.5.0(00:46:02 08/15/07)(nls perl 
 spell -cjk -debug -eds -gnutls -krb4 -nas -silc -tcl -tk)
  Homepage:http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
  Description: GTK Instant Messenger client
 
 However, when I try to update world nothing comes up to tell me that Gaim is 
 no more:
 
 # emerge -upDv world
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies... done!
 
 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
 
 Last I recall, portage would tell you that a particular package is no longer 
 in the tree and ask you to unmerge it.  What's up here?
 
 Some additional info:
 ==
 # less /etc/portage/package.keywords | grep net-im/gaim
 #
 # less /etc/portage/package.mask | grep -i net-im/gaim
 # 
 # emerge -pDv gaim
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies -
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy gaim have been masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
 - net-im/gaim-1.5.0 (masked by: package.mask)
 /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
 # Olivier Crete [EMAIL PROTECTED] (08 Dec 2007)
 # Remove gaim and its plugins (now its called pidgin)
 
 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or 
 refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
 
 # emerge -pDv pidgin
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/pyrex-0.9.4.1  0 kB 
 [ebuild  N] dev-python/dbus-python-0.80.2  USE=-test 443 kB 
 [ebuild  N] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.6  USE=-debug 0 kB 
 [ebuild  N] net-im/pidgin-2.2.1  USE=dbus gstreamer ncurses nls perl 
 spell -bonjour -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -gtk -meanwhile 
 (-networkmanager) -prediction -qq -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr 8,674 kB 
 
 Total: 4 packages (4 new), Size of downloads: 9,117 kB
 ==

Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Michael Schmarck
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?

It has been renamed to Pidgin in 2007 to prevent some legal
issues with AOL and their AIM product.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 Why is gaim no longer in portage?  Is it dead upstream?

It's been dead for some time since AOL had a hissy fit over the name.

The new gaim is now called pidgin. It's not a new product really, just a 
version bump that is a name change.

It was hard masked in portage very recently. Unfortunately for gaim 
users, the upgrade consists of unmerge gaim, merge pidgin, import 
settings.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
  [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
  kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)

 I think somebody has mentioned this before ksync is part of the new
 kdelibs so unmerge it to merge the new kdelibs.
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-expat-upgrading.xml

Maybe I should explain a bit more in detail how the OP should fix this, 
as finding kde blockers between the -meta and monolithic ebuilds is not 
a cut and dried process.

First, I assume he has read the emerging KDE howto on the gentoo docs 
site, and understands the difference between -meta ebuilds, monolithic 
ebuilds and package ebuilds. There's not much to indicate which is 
which except that the -meta ebuilds have -meta in their name. Over time 
I have learned which are the packages distributed by kde.org and now 
recognize them by name. The monolithic ebuilds must then be the same 
without the -meta name. So, everything else is probably a package 
ebuild.

Golden rule: You cannot mix these types, you must use one or the other. 
To determine blockers, there's no command I know of that does 
eg equery blocks package so I resort to good old grep:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep -r ksync /var/portage/kde-base/*/*ebuild | grep 
kdelibs
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r1.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r2.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r3.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8.ebuild: !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r1.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r2.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r3.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync

So, kdelibs will not install along with ksync. Now to determine what 
installs ksync:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends ksync
[ Searching for packages depending on ksync... ]

No results. Bugger. That means I don't have ksync installed, so equery 
can't find the info for me. Time to search the tree (this is slow). 
So one cup of coffee later:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery depends -a ksync
[ Searching for packages depending on ksync... ]
app-pda/syncekonnector-0.3_pre20060117 (=kde-base/ksync-3.5*)
app-pda/syncekonnector-0.3.2 (=kde-base/ksync-3.5*)
kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.5.5 (~kde-base/ksync-3.5.5)
kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.5.6 (~kde-base/ksync-3.5.6)

OK, Now we are getting there. kdepim-meta will install all sub-packages 
of kdepim. syncekonnector (probably part of kdepim-meta too) will also 
install ksync. Plus, kdepim (monolithic) will install all the same 
files as kdepim-meta, but not as individual packages. On to solutions 
for the OPs problem:

Don't merge ksync, do merge kdepim.
Convert to the -meta ebuilds and emerge ksync. 

This last is a lot of effort but worth it. I did it by running eix kde 
and listing what I had, unmerge the monolithic ebuilds and merge the 
corresponding -meta ones. It's an iterative process, I had to go back 
and find more stuff to unmerge once or twice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)

2008-02-04 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Sunday 03 Feb 2008 20:50:47 Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 23:44:59 +0100

 Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks all for their respective input. From the information provided,
  I've assembled a short Gentoo Wiki Tip [1].
 
  Regards,
  Liviu
 
  [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Reboot_to_Windows_(using_grub)

 Thanks; I've been wanting to do this for months now, but failed to
 write up a coherent message to the list.  Now I can finally reboot with
 ease and walk away, without having to mess with quickly switching grub
 (being impatient and having a short attention span, similar as they may
 be, are, in conjunction, quite an obstacle for multi-booters ;) )

 I was thinking, though; wouldn't it be possible to just switch back and
 forth each boot?  Have grub set windows as the default when it boots
 linux and linux as the default after booting windows, and you can just
 switch back and forth by rebooting - no grub-set-default required.
 However, this would be appropriate only for people who want to reboot
 into the other OS every time they reboot.

info grub

Look for savedefault.

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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Falko
On Feb 4, 2008 2:35 PM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 okay heres my use flags

 [ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-7.1.213  USE=acl bash-completion gpm
 nls perl python vim-pager vim-with-x -cscope -minimal -ruby 8,876 kB

Try ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=-vim-with-x emerge -1 vim (remove vim with x use flag).

 ls -lah 'which vim' returned no such file or directory

 whereis vim returns /usr/bin/vim /usr/share/vim

 I removed the /etc/vim/vimrc and still no luck.



 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 14:04 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
  On Feb 4, 2008 10:00 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   vim-7.1.213 and revdep-rebuild shown no breakage
  Here somethings you can try:
 
  ls -lah `which vim`  make sure the output is:
  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.4M Nov 15 01:25 /usr/bin/vim
 
  Find a vim binary somewhere, extract it, and see if it runs
  correctly.
 
  You have Gentoo default /etc/vim/vimrc? Do you have your own .vimrc?
  If yes, delete the .vimrc file and try again.
 
  Recompile with different USE flags. What does emerge -pv vim say?
 
  You might want to contact vim devs.
  
   On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 08:46 -0500, Andrey Falko wrote:
On Feb 4, 2008 7:53 AM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I type for example vim test.cxx all it does is send it to the 
 next
 line and just stays there blinking and nothing at all. I've recompiled
 it, still nothing. I've emerge -C vim. Then compiled it and it did
 nothing. Any idea what broke vim?

What happens when you press i? Based on what you describe; nothing
will happen; you remain in the bash shell. Try emerge gentoolkit 
revdep-rebuild
Also what version of vim?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
 On my wild dreams, once I thought to write a Python-based FUSE
 filesystem abstracting Portage.

I'm confused by this. Portage is already a filesystem, why would you 
want to abstract a filesystem as a filesystem...? I can't see the point

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Dale wrote:
 Oh well, at least it keeps getting better.  LFS would be fun for
 sure. We'd be writing scripts like crazy.  LOL

Gentoo: Build your own kit car! Just need spanners!

LFS: Build your own spanners to build your own kit car! Oh, and you need 
to design it yourself. We'll sell you the sheet metal for the body 
though :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:21:49PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 I routinely read $PORT_DIR/profiles/packages.mask after a sync to check 
 what has changed recently and do something about it before it bites me 
 in the ass

Last rites and removals are also announced in GWN/GMN. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage behaviour with Masked packages - Gaim

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Mick wrote:
  Remerging gaim is another story, then portage will correctly tell
  you that it can't do the update.
 
  In short, your gentoo is working correctly as designed.

 Thanks Alan,  I can remember though that XMMS (and other packages)
 were flagged up as hard masked/not in the tree by Portage.  Am I
 right?

Yes, XMMS was abandoned upstream a long time ago as unmaintainable. It's 
hard masked or removed in portage now. I seem to recall way back then 
some related ebuilds spitting out elog messages that xmms was going 
away.

If I have the story right, portage does not yet support news items that 
would alert users of stuff like this (paludis does though) after a 
sync. So the devs are stuck with messages in related ebuilds.

I routinely read $PORT_DIR/profiles/packages.mask after a sync to check 
what has changed recently and do something about it before it bites me 
in the ass

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?

MMIIX


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?

 MMIIX

You bugger you. Now I have to dig back 25 years in memory to high school 
Latin classes to decode that.

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[gentoo-user] Konqueror-3.5.8 Go menu

2008-02-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all,

I've broken Konqueror. Again.

Sometime after emerging kde-4 I accidentally ran konqueror from my 
regular user account without noticing that kde4 was in the PATH before 
kde-3.5.8, and it ran the new one. As a result, my .kde dir in ~ got a 
little scrambled :-(

All seems fine except for the Go menu in Konqueror. This used to have 
useful stuff like pre-configured ssh connections, removeable media and 
other stuff. Now it has two entries only - History and Most Often 
Visited. I have no idea how to put the complete list back.

dbus, hal are running, and kde was compiled with the correct flags for 
this. Anyone know where to look to fix this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread Brian Marshall
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:35:42 -0600
keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 okay heres my use flags
 
 [ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-7.1.213  USE=acl bash-completion gpm
 nls perl python vim-pager vim-with-x -cscope -minimal -ruby 8,876 kB 
 
 ls -lah 'which vim' returned no such file or directory

' is not the same as `


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[gentoo-user] openexr vs. ilmbase

2008-02-04 Thread Benjamen R. Meyer
I went to update my system (emerge world -vuDNp) and noticed a block by
openexr (being updated) on ilmbase (new package). So, I was wondering
what they are and which one I should be using.

media-libs/openexr-1.6.1 [1.4.0a]   Update!
media-libs/ilmbase-1.0.1New!
media-libs/openexr-1.5.0   blocking ilmbase-1.0.1

URL: http://www.openexr.com/
I noticed they are both ILM (Industrial Light  Magic) file format
stuff, and that OpenEXR split back in December 2006 into three packages:
ilmbase 0.9, OpenEXR 1.5, OpenEXRViewers 0.9. And then in August
everything upgraded to 1.0, 1.6, 1.0 respectively; with a further update
in October to 1.0.1, 1.6.1, 1.0.1 respectively.

So okay - openexr 1.4.0a needs to be removed and openexr 1.6.1 installed
instead with ilmbase 1.0.1 also installed, no?

But then why is emerge wanting to install openexr 1.5 too?

But what's the best way to do the update? I could just unmerge (emerge
-C) openexr and then do the update, and remerge openexr afterwards if
need be. Or is there a better way?

TIA,

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[gentoo-user] OO and slot 5500

2008-02-04 Thread W.Kenworthy
I use openoffice on two systems and one has developed a dialog box that
says /home/$[user]/slot:5500 is unavailable. Cancelling causes the
requested document to open normally.  This happened back a few weeks ago
after some updates (but by the time I noticed it, it was too late tell
which ones).  OO wasnt one of the updates and its otherwise fine.  I
just upgraded to 2.3.1.2 and its still there.

anyone have any clues where to look?

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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread Andrey Falko
On Feb 4, 2008 8:59 PM, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 okay sorry. Now this is what it shows.
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.6M 2008-02-04 05:24 /usr/bin/vim

That looks good.I just realized I goofed on on telling how to
remove the vim with X use flag.do this:

USE=acl bash-completion gpm nls perl python -cscope -minimal -ruby
-vim-pager -vim-with-x emerge -1 vim

This will remerge vim with the same useflags I have.

 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
  On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:35:42 -0600
  keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   okay heres my use flags
  
   [ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-7.1.213  USE=acl bash-completion gpm
   nls perl python vim-pager vim-with-x -cscope -minimal -ruby 8,876 kB
  
   ls -lah 'which vim' returned no such file or directory
  
  ' is not the same as `
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] VIM Issue

2008-02-04 Thread keith
okay sorry. Now this is what it shows.
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.6M 2008-02-04 05:24 /usr/bin/vim

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
 On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:35:42 -0600
 keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  okay heres my use flags
  
  [ebuild   R   ] app-editors/vim-7.1.213  USE=acl bash-completion gpm
  nls perl python vim-pager vim-with-x -cscope -minimal -ruby 8,876 kB 
  
  ls -lah 'which vim' returned no such file or directory
 
 ' is not the same as `
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:57 PM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 04/02/08 00:19:

  I've installed cups and hplip  I cannot follow the Gentoo
  printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
  hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in
  /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually
  run as a Postscrpt printer.
  What have I missed?

  hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0

  I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong.  The drive
  that held my root directory and all configs had failed.  Friday, i
  got it back from the DiskSavers, along with the data on a new USB
  external drive.  Copying over the cups config files just magically
  made the printer work locally.

  That's enough for now.

  I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore
  the fact that I have no idea what keeps my CUPS working.

  I think I've got cron backing up to that USB drive nightly -- using
  rsync it takes about an hour for all partitions, unattended.  Beats
  the blazes out of hovering over the DVD drive.  And i'm pretty sure I
  won't end up in the same fix again.

  But I've still got to get the LPD service going, not to mention
  apache, vmware, ntp and gaim/pidgin.

  And I have a day job.

  I'll get around to it.  Real Soon Now.

 Glad to hear that you're up and running, and thanks for the timely
 reminder to do a backup! 8-)

 Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip

 The contents of /etc/hp/hplip.conf and the output of:
 hp-check
   - and -
 hp-probe -bpar

 would also be interesting.

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 It's gonna take a day or so to get all that.  I'm in the midst of one of
those monster recompiles now,
and working on apache.  Did I mention I have a day job?  :o)

Thanks for the help.  I did find that hplip was compiled without the parport
flag.  Since local printing
on the parallel port is now working without it, I wonder what it does?

Thanks, and I'll get that info when I have things a bit more stable.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 4, 2008 12:50 AM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
  On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
   I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is
  deprecated.
   I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
   start it silently fail.
   I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
   Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
   Does anybody want to help me guess?
  
  
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  Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse.
 Next
  try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge
  pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run
  again. If
  renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
  configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
  happend, wrote here.
 
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  renaming .gaim to dot.gaim makes no difference.
 
  I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.
 
  ++ kevin
 
 
 
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I'm not clear on what that means.  I don't think I'm going to fool around
with file permissions on an installed package.

In any event, it turns out that after I ran pidgin as root, it started to
work for me as a user too.  Go figure.  I'm not gonna mess with it.  I'm
going on to the other things that still don't work.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] Display card advice needed

2008-02-04 Thread alain . didierjean

I have been given a superb Iiyama 24' Vision Master Pro display (considered too
bulky for the office it was in).
I have to buy a new graphics card able to plug it in. It must:
- be able to display 2048x1536 at 87Hz
- be able of 3d acceleration
- use, as much as possible, an Open Source driver
- not be too expensive ($120)

Advices  experiences welcome.
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