[gentoo-user] python-2.5
Hi All! I want to hear your opinion about upgrading to python 2.5! What are the advantages and disadvantages in the gentoo world? Pitfalls? Or other hints I should know? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Justin wrote: Hi All! I want to hear your opinion about upgrading to python 2.5! What are the advantages and disadvantages in the gentoo world? Pitfalls? Or other hints I should know? for me it was seamless on all my machines: - emerge pyton-2.5 - run python-updater - paranoia check with revdep-rebuild - emerge -C python-2.5 And it all JuatWorked(tm) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox3 jumping between virtual desktops
Good morning, I installed firefox 3 rc2 some days ago and maybe some other applications, too. Since then, ther is a strange behaviour. Before: When i click a link in Evolution on Desktop 2, Firefox opens it in a new tab and stays on Desktop 1. After: Firefox moves to Desktop 2 and is the focused App, which prevents me from continuing to read my email. Any idea how i can fix this? Is there a way to force Applications to stay on one specific Desktop? About my setup: Gentoo ~x86, Gnome. Philipp -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion emerge fails
hmm, probably a) broken ebuild (missing bdb dep) b) broken ./configure script (which can't find existing bdb) cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ For now I masked the version of subversion giving the problems, I only occasionally use subversion on that machine. I would however like to contribute if it's something useful. Should I log a bug for this, or wouldn't there be many people trying to emerge subversion with berkly db support? Regards Dirk -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
2008/6/12 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Justin wrote: Hi All! I want to hear your opinion about upgrading to python 2.5! What are the advantages and disadvantages in the gentoo world? Pitfalls? Or other hints I should know? for me it was seamless on all my machines: - emerge pyton-2.5 - run python-updater - paranoia check with revdep-rebuild - emerge -C python-2.5 And it all JuatWorked(tm) Is really Portage compliant with python2.5? What are the reasons for not to stabilize python2.5 at the moment? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- En el pasado creímos que se nos acababa el petróleo, pero en realidad lo que se nos acababan eran las IDEAS. http://www.lacomunidadpetrolera.com Gentoo/* (Linux #455615) www.gentoove.org 53:04:4e:b5:f9:7e:4a:fb:66:a2:19:12:da:d5:97:f8 8A3A C955 715D D88A 87CD E21F F827 ADD7 F589 B4A4 Sebastian Magrí (sebasmagri) sebasmagri_at_gmail_dot_com
Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion emerge fails
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:17:44 +0200 Dirk Uys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm, probably a) broken ebuild (missing bdb dep) b) broken ./configure script (which can't find existing bdb) cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ For now I masked the version of subversion giving the problems, I only occasionally use subversion on that machine. I would however like to contribute if it's something useful. Should I log a bug for this, or wouldn't there be many people trying to emerge subversion with berkly db support? Regards Dirk Sure, post it. It's clearly a bug. Every little piece helps :) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Sebastian Magri wrote: Is really Portage compliant with python2.5? Yes. Works here. Think about this, if portage could not use it, it would be nowhere near the tree. What are the reasons for not to stabilize python2.5 at the moment? No idea. Why don't you pop over to the bugzilla, read the open bugs and find out? Then you can post back here telling us why. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
No idea. Why don't you pop over to the bugzilla, read the open bugs and find out? Then you can post back here telling us why. second signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On 10 Jun 2008, at 21:55, Thomas Pedersen wrote: Was thinking of buying the Western Digital' My Book® Home Edition™, specially because of the eSATA connection... I heard they have an internal USB-hub for making the capacity gauge working. Please don't hijack threads like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/ 8a540add45e7e9b8? It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients... In case you didn't know, it happens when you use reply for sending a new question instead of composing a new message. Stroller.-- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Stroller wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, at 21:55, Thomas Pedersen wrote: Was thinking of buying the Western Digital' My Book® Home Edition™, specially because of the eSATA connection... I heard they have an internal USB-hub for making the capacity gauge working. I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the above example mentioned qualifies as Thread Hijacking. He started a new thread to pose his question, and, if anything, was only being indirect in asking it. Please don't hijack threads like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/8a540add45e7e9b8? It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients... In case you didn't know, it happens when you use reply for sending a new question instead of composing a new message. He *did* compose a new message, there is no Re: in the header and no other content in the message. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sanity check: fetchmail exim courier-*
Hi all —
First question, where is $MAIL set for the users? It is set now
to /var/mail/[user] somehow, or is by default. If so, where is that set?
Anyway, I need to change to ~/.maildir. If not set to change, where
should I set it?
The situation (needing a reality check) is we have an ISP that gives
small mailboxes. We need to empty them. I work in many locations and
have several of these accounts that can fill quickly.
I have been leaving mail on the ISP server and using fetchmail to pull
to storage in my local user account ~/.maildir whenever I got a 'quota
warning'. If I needed any of these emails after the fact, I could open
with nail and forward. ('mail' seems to work if I reset $MAIL var as
above...)
Next, I thought to make these available via IMAP, so set up exim and
courier. I can't get IMAP to work, not sure why (perhaps Q#1 above
is related? Duh...). But at this point I can send email via smtp and
receive via pop3. SMTP is limited to within the network the pop3 is
working from anywhere. And local delivery works too.
So, I'll just set up a cron job for my user to run fetchmail on the
various accounts so to keep my ISP storage empty and pull the emails
via POP3 (until I get IMAP working).
Anything obviously awry with this kind of setup? Local users can send
via inside the net, world users can reply to email originating on the
machine. Setting the email address in the mail client to the ISP mail
address means failed emails and replies come back to the user... (and
SMTP doesn't also reject for failed reverse DNS lookup)... does
this seem all good? '-)
Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:54:35PM +0100, Stroller wrote: Please don't hijack threads like this. Even if that were an example of thread hijacking, are you perfect? Have you never made a mistake? If someone does it over and over, then complain. Otherwise buy yourself a glass house. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: [snip] I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the above example mentioned qualifies as Thread Hijacking. He started a new thread to pose his question, and, if anything, was only being indirect in asking it. No, he did not start a new thread. Other wise why does his mail have this header; In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] He *did* compose a new message, there is no Re: in the header and no other content in the message. That's not how you determine if a thread has been hijacked. The Re: is simply a subject line and can be edited. Deleting all content from a previous post is also not it, as thread-aware mail clients use extended headers to do it, specifically In-Reply-To and References -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Two points: 1) Yeah you're right about not living in a glass house, and make a big deal out of nothing ;) 2) Thanks for letting us know about the differences about clicking reply and compose new ... I'm actually sure not all of us was aware about this difference Just a comment... Thomas -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Thomas Pedersen schrieb: Two points: 1) Yeah you're right about not living in a glass house, and make a big deal out of nothing ;) 2) Thanks for letting us know about the differences about clicking reply and compose new ... I'm actually sure not all of us was aware about this difference Just a comment... Thomas Yeah thats the right point of view!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: [snip] I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the above example mentioned qualifies as Thread Hijacking. He started a new thread to pose his question, and, if anything, was only being indirect in asking it. No, he did not start a new thread. Other wise why does his mail have this header; In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Quite right, my mistake for looking into it further. He *did* compose a new message, there is no Re: in the header and no other content in the message. That's not how you determine if a thread has been hijacked. The Re: is simply a subject line and can be edited. Deleting all content from a previous post is also not it, as thread-aware mail clients use extended headers to do it, specifically In-Reply-To and References Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. However, on closer inspection of the message header, it does appear to be a case of thread hijacking. My mistake, and I would retract my previous comments regarding the matter. I instead wish to resubmit my response on thread hijacking: Thread Hijacking is bad, don't do it. -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: HIJACKING THREADS
On 2008-06-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:54:35PM +0100, Stroller wrote: Please don't hijack threads like this. Even if that were an example of thread hijacking, are you perfect? Have you never made a mistake? A mistake is a mistake, and wrong is wrong, regardless of the how perfect the person pointing it out. OTOH, everybody should probably get a pass on the occasional mis-step. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! The PILLSBURY DOUGHBOY at is CRYING for an END to visi.comBURT REYNOLDS movies!! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list It comes with Xandros installed, so yes a lot of people have put Linux on it including Asus :). I never installed Gentoo on an Eee, but I'm confident that you'll be able to install it -- and get everything working -- on there with less hassle than on some other laptops. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:47:32 -0700, Grant wrote: I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: I've put Gentoo on an Eee PC 900. So far the only things not working are sound, which appears to be a common problem with non-Xandros distros, and suspend, which I haven't even looked at yet. -- Neil Bothwick New Klingon hair salon: Today is a good day to dye signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:42:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't hijack threads like this. Even if that were an example of thread hijacking, are you perfect? Have you never made a mistake? What is the relevance of that. We all make mistakes, some learn fro them and help others learn too. If someone does it over and over, then complain. Otherwise buy yourself a glass house. On the other hard, a polite request at the outset saves the person the potential embarrassment of making the mistake several times over. Most thread hijacking is unintentional, so why not inform someone of the correct approach at the first opportunity? -- Neil Bothwick getting performance from Windows is like getting blood from a stone - after banging my head against the stone several times I got some blood Author of Lightwave 3D signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Grant wrote: I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant There a whole user modding community grown up around the Eee. Apparently the favoured hack is to rip the existing OS off and stick Ubuntu on, so there is no reason in the world you won't be able to get Gentoo on it. And it has no hardware inside that does not have Linux support somehow somewhere Compilation might take a while though :-) perhaps you should cross-build from an existing beefier machine -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. Interesting. I wonder what mechanism those clients use to determine threads then (I use neither myself)? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Subversion emerge fails
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:17:44 +0200 Dirk Uys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now I masked the version of subversion giving the problems, I only occasionally use subversion on that machine. I would however like to contribute if it's something useful. Should I log a bug for this, or wouldn't there be many people trying to emerge subversion with berkly db support? Regards Dirk Sure, post it. It's clearly a bug. Every little piece helps :) The bug is already filed (221185). Turns out you have to emerge apr-utils. Next time I'll check bugzilla first. So much for filing my first bug. Regards Dirk -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. Interesting. I wonder what mechanism those clients use to determine threads then (I use neither myself)? possibly the (wrong) subject method (which is easily broken). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. Interesting. I wonder what mechanism those clients use to determine threads then (I use neither myself)? Actually, in threaded mode on my work box (Fedora 7, Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (20080501)), it didn't appear in a new thread but showed up as a reply to another completely unrelated thread as the initial poster said. Aaron -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. - Grant There a whole user modding community grown up around the Eee. Apparently the favoured hack is to rip the existing OS off and stick Ubuntu on, so there is no reason in the world you won't be able to get Gentoo on it. And it has no hardware inside that does not have Linux support somehow somewhere Compilation might take a while though :-) perhaps you should cross-build from an existing beefier machine Yeah how is the thing to use? How long does a firefox compile take? How is xfce on there? Is the screen and keyboard too small? Anybody work on it? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 15:53 -0700, Grant wrote: I'm thinking of buying the Asus Eee for my girlfriend for her birthday. Has anyone put Linux on one of those? It looks do-able: yeah, ASUS did, but they quickly realised their mistake, and put a superiour operating system on it (Windows XP I think). Plus you get to pay more for it, so why wouldn't you buy that? sarcasm / http://gentoo-wiki.com/Asus_Eee_PC_701 but I'm wondering if anyone here has tried it. not me! [snip] Compilation might take a while though :-) perhaps you should cross-build from an existing beefier machine Yeah how is the thing to use? How long does a firefox compile take? I think it's a celeron 900 for the 700 range. Not sure about the 900 range, but that's a chunk more expensive. I once had a similar specced desktop PC and I used firefox-bin because it was slooow. Definately try distcc. In fact, if you can make the packages completely on another machine, even better. The EPC1000 debuted this month: http://gizmodo.com/393596/asus-eee-pc-1000-to-debut-first-week-of-june How is xfce on there? Is the screen and keyboard too small? Anybody work on it? The keyboard is not full sized. If you need that for touch-typing, then maybe the MSI Wind is better: http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/20080529536/hands-on-with-the-msi-wind-ultra-portable.html Anyway, there are plenty of reviews around: http://www.slashgear.com/asus-eee-pc-looks-even-more-tempting-295983.php -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I consider the day misspent that I am not either charged with a crime, or arrested for one. -- Ratsy Tourbillon -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vmware problem
Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? Thanks. David -- David Relson Osage Software Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.osagesoftware.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hal Martin wrote: | Alan McKinnon wrote: | On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: [snip] | No, he did not start a new thread. Other wise why does his mail have | this header; | | In-Reply-To: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] | Quite right, my mistake for looking into it further. | [snip] | That's not how you determine if a thread has been hijacked. The Re: is | simply a subject line and can be edited. Deleting all content from a | previous post is also not it, as thread-aware mail clients use | extended headers to do it, specifically In-Reply-To and References | | | Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to | the GMail web interface. However, on closer inspection of the message | header, it does appear to be a case of thread hijacking. My mistake, and | I would retract my previous comments regarding the matter. I instead | wish to resubmit my response on thread hijacking: | | Thread Hijacking is bad, don't do it. | | -Hal Just a small point here. Mozilla Thunderbird has a threaded view option that allows you to view entire threads, without regard to the subject line, so it is thread aware - you just have to set the right options. Viewing it that way, it is clear to see that the message in question, was a case of thread hijacking. Is it the crime of the century? No. Is it something people want to see on a mailing list like this? No. Everyone makes mistakes, and it is can be good to point them out, though I do think this thread is a bit of overkill - a private message to the person who made the mistake is usually enough. Just my $0.021 Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIUH62AAoJEIAhA8M9p9DA0MIP/jydPqDxINeE6ZLkV0Zfhngr sYtZHLsXcjMZBAAL/fgBQMvNj4HVY8OFSkEuQWv/9iT4/f0wPYstqPZva7CfeIH5 P/miIo+XVROEMvOHMpvCsmkZ89O+YbBW8zfx864z8zUKFXNw8hAnafDgTqUaNSbA CsYMyERADQ9vTtcjPPgmE1yVYIj8Da2wbRyCF4Y7cM6x1GMGeP8LHL41LchiHEq3 aVli95H94Y7WFi32WlerE//+LH5JFiBgQX31ifTgDjzRoxl0Gznhm3Iy8KYY2n/h VL51RuYWdkJxeXghGSL4d1vQy3PqzlmWKLwR3t2YaUQIsruovh+EgGmWWWiAYe8Y 6y9aWyw4VjiVNuqE8/Aa3qAbWtyMXJHzp32DnN8HLcVmLnMZtFkBYCO7VPqSRxXA F7EcdaKJlnDPfPDOnPgz39YrHbm8UhSwjEyFknVFCBQ37KHTZUzuOaVyreZiWNUe vtiYi3egHuKRVynHp2jrI6Hx9FAxbgdLwU1uJY5wbvixv/WGdz25LWA7fY+CG97f RdMq0ELdGRlUa/JAd8/7H6AFDX0xEyD9c7syEO0djV6mzUT9djGGxXN3WfJ//CA5 dEv/wPxFnNNDE3SajexPmgqYJ+DrU9Q8fHW/yE11ktk3uxN63YcYXNOB+pJ5m1vt FbXJlnj20ve+0BDPslff =GoBY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:12 PM, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? Thanks. David -- David Relson Osage Software Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ann Arbor, MI 48103 www.osagesoftware.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I have a hunch that vmware-modules-1.0.0.17 is too old for kernel-2.6.25. See what happens if you do: modprobe --force vmnet Perhaps you reconfigured something with your kernel that throws it off. I can't read German too well, I think this guy got it working my fixing his kernel config: http://www.gentooforum.de/artikel/11913/gel-st-problem-nach-vmware-update.html -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem
Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 20:12 -0400, David Relson wrote: Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? I have various vmware module problems, and there are a number of tweaks I try when I get to a brick wall: sometimes just `rm /etc/vmware/not_configured` is enough, but given you can't load it manually, maybe not! try both: /etc/init.d/vmware stop /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop and make sure all vm* modules are unloaded. run vmware-config, but say no to everthing. Then start start the vmware init.d service, see if it works. (don't run vmware). stop vmware, run vmware-config again, and then add in your options. Start the vmware service again... and cross your fingers :) There might also be some useful messages in dmesg, or syslog (can't remember where they go) about why the module isn't loading - perhaps there's a deprecated kernel option you have to compile in? HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped. -- Elbert Hubbard -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
at one time I had a couple of people have a go at me over thread hi-jacking. Turned out to be a bug in THEIR version of KMail. I did enjoy sticking the boot in as one of them was most ungracious about it. Moral: make sure you are right then be nice and polite - or accept the VERY PUBLIC consequences of being a well known ... :) BillK On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 21:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. Interesting. I wonder what mechanism those clients use to determine threads then (I use neither myself)? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Alan, on rereading this it might look like I am having a poke at you but this is not the case - its just the message I replied to to enter the thread. Being publicly sorry for stuffing up :) BillK On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:52 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: at one time I had a couple of people have a go at me over thread hi-jacking. Turned out to be a bug in THEIR version of KMail. I did enjoy sticking the boot in as one of them was most ungracious about it. Moral: make sure you are right then be nice and polite - or accept the VERY PUBLIC consequences of being a well known ... :) BillK On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 21:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. Interesting. I wonder what mechanism those clients use to determine threads then (I use neither myself)? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] python-2.5
2008/6/12 Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No idea. Why don't you pop over to the bugzilla, read the open bugs and find out? Then you can post back here telling us why. second There is a reopened python2.5 stabilisation request on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178800 with some interesting comments... There you can find some other bugs about it in the comments... -- En el pasado creímos que se nos acababa el petróleo, pero en realidad lo que se nos acababan eran las IDEAS. http://www.lacomunidadpetrolera.com Gentoo/* (Linux #455615) www.gentoove.org 53:04:4e:b5:f9:7e:4a:fb:66:a2:19:12:da:d5:97:f8 8A3A C955 715D D88A 87CD E21F F827 ADD7 F589 B4A4 Sebastian Magrí (sebasmagri) sebasmagri_at_gmail_dot_com
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: at one time I had a couple of people have a go at me over thread hi-jacking. Turned out to be a bug in THEIR version of KMail. I did enjoy sticking the boot in as one of them was most ungracious about it. Moral: make sure you are right then be nice and polite - or accept the VERY PUBLIC consequences of being a well known ... :) so when will you stop top posting? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
too old to stop now ... been at it since the 90's when I first started using email ... :) BillK On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 05:25 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: so when will you stop top posting? too old to stop now ... been at it since the 90's when I first started using email ... :) BillK * Just so everyone is covered -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:45:46 +0930 Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 20:12 -0400, David Relson wrote: Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? I have various vmware module problems, and there are a number of tweaks I try when I get to a brick wall: sometimes just `rm /etc/vmware/not_configured` is enough, but given you can't load it manually, maybe not! try both: /etc/init.d/vmware stop /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop and make sure all vm* modules are unloaded. run vmware-config, but say no to everthing. Then start start the vmware init.d service, see if it works. (don't run vmware). stop vmware, run vmware-config again, and then add in your options. Start the vmware service again... and cross your fingers :) There might also be some useful messages in dmesg, or syslog (can't remember where they go) about why the module isn't loading - perhaps there's a deprecated kernel option you have to compile in? /var/log/messages says: vmnet: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module So I upgraded linux-headers from 2.6.23-r3 to 2.6.25-r4, then emerged vmware-modules again, ran modprobe vmnet, and (again) got the above message Attempted to upgrade vmware-modules from 1.0.0.15-r1 to 1.0.0.17-r1 and found it blocked by vmware-server-1.0.5.80187: emerge --oneshot vmware-modules Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.17-r1 [1.0.0.15-r1] [blocks B ] =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 (is blocking app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.5.80187) It seems that the vmware-server ebuild only permits modules-1.0.0.15 ... Is any of this ringing any bells??? Also, reading the google translation of the German posting, it seems to say there was a conflict with dual core and vmmon and (perhaps) disabling SMP, then building vmmon, then enabling SMP gave a working module. This is a guess and I've not yet tried it. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help with battling alsa-lib versions
If I emerge whichever version of alsa-lib-1.0.16 is current, mplayer, audacious, and anything else that relies on alsa don't play audio. However, Realplayer (bleagh) and anything that works off of OSS emulation still works. If i put... =media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.14_rc1-r1 ...into /etc/portage/package.mask, and emerge the older version of alsa-lib, the above programs work fine, but alsactl dies like so... [m3000][root][~] alsactl store alsactl: relocation error: alsactl: symbol snd_tlv_parse_dB_info, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference [m3000][root][~] alsactl restore alsactl: relocation error: alsactl: symbol snd_ctl_get_dB_range, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference ...which means that settings can't be saved/restored at shutdown/reboot. This is a PITA, because I have to manually run alsamixer after each reboot, and unmute and re-set all the audio settings. This is the lesser of 2 evils, because no alsa sound is a showstopper. What am I doing wrong? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
On Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: too old to stop now ... been at it since the 90's when I first started using email ... I am sure even back then people told you to stop it. Or did you only mail AOlusers ;P -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Asus Eee
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:14:53PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Compilation might take a while though :-) perhaps you should cross-build from an existing beefier machine I'm thinking of doing something similar soon. Another reason for not building on the EEE is to save wear-and-tear on the flash drive. I suppose one should also use a filesystem without journalling to save the flash drive. Are there any other native linux filesystems, besides ext2fs, that don't journal? While we're at it, can Gentoo run without a swap partition or swap file? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with battling alsa-lib versions
On Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008, Walter Dnes wrote: If I emerge whichever version of alsa-lib-1.0.16 is current, mplayer, audacious, and anything else that relies on alsa don't play audio. However, Realplayer (bleagh) and anything that works off of OSS emulation still works. works perfectly fine here. Maybe you need a revdep-rebuilt? Which - after the downgrade - should also solve your little alsactl problem. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:45:46 +0930 Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 20:12 -0400, David Relson wrote: Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? I have various vmware module problems, and there are a number of tweaks I try when I get to a brick wall: sometimes just `rm /etc/vmware/not_configured` is enough, but given you can't load it manually, maybe not! try both: /etc/init.d/vmware stop /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop and make sure all vm* modules are unloaded. run vmware-config, but say no to everthing. Then start start the vmware init.d service, see if it works. (don't run vmware). stop vmware, run vmware-config again, and then add in your options. Start the vmware service again... and cross your fingers :) There might also be some useful messages in dmesg, or syslog (can't remember where they go) about why the module isn't loading - perhaps there's a deprecated kernel option you have to compile in? /var/log/messages says: vmnet: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module So I upgraded linux-headers from 2.6.23-r3 to 2.6.25-r4, then emerged vmware-modules again, ran modprobe vmnet, and (again) got the above message Attempted to upgrade vmware-modules from 1.0.0.15-r1 to 1.0.0.17-r1 and found it blocked by vmware-server-1.0.5.80187: emerge --oneshot vmware-modules Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.17-r1 [1.0.0.15-r1] [blocks B ] =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 (is blocking app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.5.80187) You need to emerge -C =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 first...I think. It seems that the vmware-server ebuild only permits modules-1.0.0.15 ... Is any of this ringing any bells??? Also, reading the google translation of the German posting, it seems to say there was a conflict with dual core and vmmon and (perhaps) disabling SMP, then building vmmon, then enabling SMP gave a working module. This is a guess and I've not yet tried it. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware problem
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:45:46 +0930 Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 20:12 -0400, David Relson wrote: Greetings, I've got vmware-server installed on my AMD64x2 workstation with kernel 2.6.25-gentoo-r4. It used to work fine with kernel 2.6.22-gentoo-r9. My current versions are: vmware-server: 1.0.5.80187 vmware-modules: 1.0.0.15-r1 Today vmware won't start up. It's complaining: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/server/bin/vmware-config.pl. I've run vmware-config.pl and accepted the default answers to all questions -- the same thing I've done several times over the past year. The run ends with the following messages: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Module vmnet is not loaded. Please verify that it is loaded before [ !! ] * running this script. [ !! ] The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.5 build-80187 for Linux for this running kernel completed successfully. Given the module vmnet message, I've run emerge --oneshot vmware-modules and verified that /lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc has new versions of vmmon.ko and vmnet.ko. When I run modprobe vmnet, it reports: FATAL: Error inserting vmnet (/lib/modules/2.6.25-gentoo-r4/misc/vmnet.ko): Invalid module format What detail am I missing about building vmnet.ko ?? I have various vmware module problems, and there are a number of tweaks I try when I get to a brick wall: sometimes just `rm /etc/vmware/not_configured` is enough, but given you can't load it manually, maybe not! try both: /etc/init.d/vmware stop /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop and make sure all vm* modules are unloaded. run vmware-config, but say no to everthing. Then start start the vmware init.d service, see if it works. (don't run vmware). stop vmware, run vmware-config again, and then add in your options. Start the vmware service again... and cross your fingers :) There might also be some useful messages in dmesg, or syslog (can't remember where they go) about why the module isn't loading - perhaps there's a deprecated kernel option you have to compile in? /var/log/messages says: vmnet: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module So I upgraded linux-headers from 2.6.23-r3 to 2.6.25-r4, then emerged vmware-modules again, ran modprobe vmnet, and (again) got the above message Attempted to upgrade vmware-modules from 1.0.0.15-r1 to 1.0.0.17-r1 and found it blocked by vmware-server-1.0.5.80187: emerge --oneshot vmware-modules Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.17-r1 [1.0.0.15-r1] [blocks B ] =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 (is blocking app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.5.80187) You need to emerge -C =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 first...I think. Sorry, I meant vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r1. It seems that the vmware-server ebuild only permits modules-1.0.0.15 ... Is any of this ringing any bells??? Also, reading the google translation of the German posting, it seems to say there was a conflict with dual core and vmmon and (perhaps) disabling SMP, then building vmmon, then enabling SMP gave a working module. This is a guess and I've not yet tried it. Regards, David -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
