Re: [gentoo-user] root on raid 1 = no boot
Volker Armin Hemmann a écrit: Did you tried this : kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 md=1,1,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3 nopat nope. Why the second one? The fisrt one is the md device number and the second is to explicitly give the raid level. I personally have this line : kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.25-gentoo-r7-v1 root=/dev/md5 md=5,1,/dev/sda5,/dev/sdb5 ro vga=0x323 -- Nicolas Sebrecht
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers.
Hrm. I thought this was gentoo-user , which I thought was one of many places
(gentoo-user)'s can ask for help on various subjects.
'gentoo-user | General Gentoo user support and discussion mailing list' [1]
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh wait, my confusion. You were possibly referring explicitly to whom should
and should not be on the linux dev ml.
( If otherwise, please do unset my fail bit i just assigned on myself )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A plea for calm
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 01:16:06 b.n. wrote: No, that's *your* problem now, because you and your accolites now look like a bunch of arrogant a**holes, instead of helpful people. If that helps drive away idiots, then fine. Non-idiots won't use that as a reason to use or not to use the software. I asked instead seriously for facts about such campaign. URLs of websites dedicated against Paludis, menacing mails, personal attacks, whatever. I am still waiting for evidence of this mysterious conspiracy. For personal attacks, see anything written by Volker and his buddies about Paludis on the mailing lists or forums. There is at least one website, but posting it will only encourage them. Scared of what? Scared that people might want to use Paludis instead of their precious Portage or Pkgcore. - if these are lies, rational people will look at facts for themselves and will stay on the rational side. So why caring at Volker's lies? Because allowing him to viciously attack us over, and over, and over, and over, and over again is not acceptable.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A plea for calm
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:05 AM, David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:14:47 b.n. wrote:
Frankly, the more you challenge him this mindless way, the more I
believe him.
If you think in such backwards logic then I don't care who you believe.
A apologize in advance if this assessment may be under/over stating
something, I've not really taken part of this discussion, and don't really
care of what the outcome is, I'll keep using my ${choice}, if ${choice} goes
away ill go back and fork ${choice} to bring it back. But you do appear to
be going out of your way to cause unwanted flame wars. ( I'm being the
ultra fool by joining in the fray here ).
It would be nice if this bonfire could settle, and I'll request so by
mocking myself and all amateur geekdom at once with
liek, omg gaiz. chi11
Cheers.
Can we all kiss and make up now?
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:50:42 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a very great deal and have greatly improved the computing environment for the members of the corresponding mailing list. Like would not apply as I don't know either linus or the members of this mailing list. Ah, so it's hero-worship, then? Linus can be obnoxious, but it's OK because he's soo cool? 2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers. Not even slightly relevant. Why? Because you say people will avoid software because they don't like its developers. Nothing to do with any mailing list.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, 06:18, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 17:07, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Joliet wrote: Am Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:25:02 +0200 schrieb pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also installed VirtualBox, however when the Gentoo wiki suggested I edit a bunch of files in /etc/ I decided to go with the VirtualBox default configuration files; lo-and-behold, it works, Batman! The default uses NAT so that you're not visible from the little network that VirtualBox sets up for you. Hence, if you need *bi*directional access you must use Host Interface and to get that working you need the bridge stuff. Or no bridge, but proper NAT and forwarding configured on the host (this is how I use it).
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Matthias Bethke wrote: [...] that in any halfway sane router these NAT problems are not an issue. And with many routers running Linux today so you can even get a shell and check iptables... :) We are obviously talking about a different price category of routers. Most routers people use here in Germany for home systems are from their ISP, and they are usually proprietary implementations where you cannot do much more than to configure them by web interface with the enclosed windows software (if you can decide which ports go through you already have an advanced router). Unless by experimenting it is close to impossible to decide what the router really does or does not. I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw a stone.
[gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
Hi all, I think I'm barking up an impossible tree, but it's worth asking. Scenario: I have an sshd-enabled jump box catering for 100+ users. They all use ssh keys and we ask them all nicely to passphrase-protect the private key and pretend that we enforce this. Keys are in use because the admin load of coping with passwords isn't worth the effort. Fortunately, I have a security officer who is properly clued up and very willing to listen to reason. My question: Is there any known way, no matter how convulted and bizarre, of checking and enforcing from the server end that a private key is passphrase protected? Our own research indicates no. One possible way is to audit the user's client machine, but we don't have that level of access (and don't want it either) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] I am a f*****g retard. Can you help me?
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Stroller wrote: The risk is that you want to install X that depends upon Y. The ebuild for X states that version 1.2.3 of Y must be used because there's a bug in 1.2.2. The new version of Y fails to compile, so when X is compiled it only has the old version of Y to work with. It may compile OK but not work or feature a security bug. That's not the real risk: Since any sane user will of course check which packages have failed and make sure that the upgraded version will be installed, this will not leave you with an inconsistent system (the next emerge -NaDu world - which of course also any sane user would do afterwards - would even tell you the problem, and in case of an ABI change you would be informed by revdep-rebuild). The only case I can think of where _really_ problems might arise is the (very rare) situation which I had described: That the ./configure script of X builds X without errors but also without support for Y if only 1.2.2 of Y is installed: Then neither later upgrading of Y nor revdep-rebuild will show anything suspicious, although X does not behave in the intended way.
Re: [gentoo-user] I am a f*****g retard. Can you help me?
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 10:01:43 Vaeth wrote: The new version of Y fails to compile, so when X is compiled it only has the old version of Y to work with. It may compile OK but not work or feature a security bug. That's not the real risk: Since any sane user will of course check Obviously, you deal with a completely different class of user to what I have to deal with -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
Matthias Bethke wrote: I'd say the vast majority of chroot jails are there for nothing else but security. Alan Cox: chroot is not and never has been a security tool, see e.g. http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot No disrespect to Mr. Cox but a silly argument stays a silly argument even if brought forward by Alan. Programs like postfix certainly don't use chroots for security because they were designed noobs or incompetent people. I did not cite the webpage because of the insults but because it shows how much the kernel programmers are interested in closing possible ways to break out of a chroot: not at all, because they think it is ok. That's why I said that _only_ with grsecurity a chroot _might perhaps_ be considered as a serious security measurement (but in fact, people which really need chroot to run binaries from two systems cannot activate these security enhancements). Alan acknowledges that Normal users cannot use chroot() themselves so they can't use chroot to get back out Yes, _this_ method of breaking out does not work without additional exploits like privilege escalation. (grsecurity closes a lot more methods; I did never reasearch which tricks might perhaps work as a user). But if everything works as it should, just running with low privileges does not make much of a difference than running with low privileges in a chroot: In any case you should only have access to those data which the privileges allow. (Admittedly there is a _slight_ increase in security: You might now be safe of ways of privilege escalation by bugs in certain SUID-programms). That's not to say that setting up a vserver for each of your programs exposed to the net wasn't *more* secure than a chroot That's a different topic, but a vserver might also even be more dangerous than doing nothing, because it has to be implemented (of course) with the highest available privileges, and so you have an additional risk of bugs (i.e. possible exploits) of the vserver - and in such a case the attacker has immediately the highest privileges. but it's certainly a whole lot more secure if used properly than not doing it at all. ...as is the usage of NAT as a security feature. Of course, saying that using NAT or using chroot would not increase security at all would be a lie. But it is better to emphasize the dangers than to support the common misbelieve (as Alan alrady pointed out) that by using it there is no risk that closed ports can come through or that no other data than those in the chroot can be accessed. Remember the starting point of the discussion: The statement rsyncd uses chroot, so an attacker can do nothing bad is just false.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
snip Could you please use a mail client which insert correctly the fields In-Reply-To ans Reference ? -- Nicolas Sebrecht
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Hello! This is the script I use to start my VirtualBox: #if you previously loaded the driver, you don't need #the following line. modprobe vboxdrv tunctl -t tap1 -u root brctl addbr br0 ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc brctl addif br0 eth0 dhcpcd br0 brctl addif br0 tap1 ifconfig tap1 up Then as a normal user (which is in the vboxusers group) I simply start and configure my VirtualBox to use 'tap1'. $VirtualBox Hope this helps. Regards. Richard.
Re: [gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
Hello, You cannot. The reason for this is simple : you can copy as many times as you wish it your private key in any place. Even if you were able to check-up that a private key is passphrase-protected, it wouldn't mean every single copy of that key is protected so. And the interest of the private key is that only the owners possesses it and hides it; thus you shouldn't think about a mensual submission of the keyfile to automatically check it is protected, because it would open a serious security hole. I see the problem you face because some time ago, I used passphrase-protected keys on my usb stick and ones stored on windows, but I assumed my linux system was secure enough not to need any more password once logged in. Opinon I revised with time :) If you generates the keypair for these users, you can protect them with a complex password, so that lazy users may keep it and learn it (or write it down...). Fortunately (from my point of view), you do not have any single point of control on your users' private keyfile. Keeping their credentials safe is of their responsibilities. Your security officer probably knows that 80-90% of the security is about educating people. To sensibilise them is you most efficient measure of control. Any way I might think about checking the protection of a private key seems to be a violation of privacy to me, regardless of the technology. The one step you may act is when generating the key pair. What if you generate it and transfer it to the user in a secure way, after they filled a form with the password setting for the key ? This way, as they chosed the password, they'd remember it and don't need to change it or remove it, unless they really want to. Against that last case, there's nothing you can do. Good luck, Jil. Alan McKinnon a écrit : Hi all, I think I'm barking up an impossible tree, but it's worth asking. Scenario: I have an sshd-enabled jump box catering for 100+ users. They all use ssh keys and we ask them all nicely to passphrase-protect the private key and pretend that we enforce this. Keys are in use because the admin load of coping with passwords isn't worth the effort. Fortunately, I have a security officer who is properly clued up and very willing to listen to reason. My question: Is there any known way, no matter how convulted and bizarre, of checking and enforcing from the server end that a private key is passphrase protected? Our own research indicates no. One possible way is to audit the user's client machine, but we don't have that level of access (and don't want it either)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
At Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:33:11 +0100 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:50:42 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a very great deal and have greatly improved the computing environment for the members of the corresponding mailing list. Like would not apply as I don't know either linus or the members of this mailing list. Ah, so it's hero-worship, then? Linus can be obnoxious, but it's OK because he's soo cool? You are changing words. I said less objectionable you summarized it as OK. You can use the term hero-worship if you choose, but it only approximates what I said. But I do agree that it is true that those who accomplish a lot are given greater latitude. 2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers. Not even slightly relevant. Why? Because you say people will avoid software because they don't like its developers. I never said any such thing. You are confusing my posts with someone else's. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
At Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:24:04 +1200 Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wait, my confusion. You were possibly referring explicitly to whom should and should not be on the linux dev ml. ( If otherwise, please do unset my fail bit i just assigned on myself ) Yes, you misread my post. I said that list when I had just discussed the kernel list. allan gottlieb
Re: [gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:16:57 Jil Larner wrote: Hello, You cannot. The reason for this is simple : you can copy as many times as you wish it your private key in any place. Even if you were able to check-up that a private key is passphrase-protected, it wouldn't mean every single copy of that key is protected so. And the interest of the private key is that only the owners possesses it and hides it; thus you shouldn't think about a mensual submission of the keyfile to automatically check it is protected, because it would open a serious security hole. Agreed. The hole I would like to close (or make smaller) is that the key is the main security between the user's desktop machine and the core routers on my network. We originally switched to ssh keys because users will gladly share passwords with each other without regard for consequences, and the administration of this is a nightmare. Keys make for better security, but I would like it to be even better. I also want to have my facts 100% straight - if I tell my boss it can't be done I like to show research to back it up. There's nothing worse than saying something can't be done, and someone else in the room immediately says how it can be done ... :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:21:41 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:16:57 Jil Larner wrote: Hello, You cannot. The reason for this is simple : you can copy as many times as you wish it your private key in any place. Even if you were able to check-up that a private key is passphrase-protected, it wouldn't mean every single copy of that key is protected so. And the interest of the private key is that only the owners possesses it and hides it; thus you shouldn't think about a mensual submission of the keyfile to automatically check it is protected, because it would open a serious security hole. Agreed. The hole I would like to close (or make smaller) is that the key is the main security between the user's desktop machine and the core routers on my network. We originally switched to ssh keys because users will gladly share passwords with each other without regard for consequences, and the administration of this is a nightmare. Keys make for better security, but I would like it to be even better. I also want to have my facts 100% straight - if I tell my boss it can't be done I like to show research to back it up. There's nothing worse than saying something can't be done, and someone else in the room immediately says how it can be done ... :-) You could use keys AND passwords for the SSH. It should be trivial to set PAM up for it... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
Mr Leverton: Please be advised that I have initiated a formal process requesting to have you banned from this list by [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list, and two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not answered. On Wednesday 17 September 2008 14:06:51 Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:33:11 +0100 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:50:42 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a very great deal and have greatly improved the computing environment for the members of the corresponding mailing list. Like would not apply as I don't know either linus or the members of this mailing list. Ah, so it's hero-worship, then? Linus can be obnoxious, but it's OK because he's soo cool? You are changing words. I said less objectionable you summarized it as OK. You can use the term hero-worship if you choose, but it only approximates what I said. But I do agree that it is true that those who accomplish a lot are given greater latitude. 2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers. Not even slightly relevant. Why? Because you say people will avoid software because they don't like its developers. I never said any such thing. You are confusing my posts with someone else's. allan -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 14:26:50 Robert Bridge wrote: Keys make for better security, but I would like it to be even better. I also want to have my facts 100% straight - if I tell my boss it can't be done I like to show research to back it up. There's nothing worse than saying something can't be done, and someone else in the room immediately says how it can be done ... :-) You could use keys AND passwords for the SSH. It should be trivial to set PAM up for it... I had thought of that, but I'm shying away from it - the admin load of supporting that many user passwords is crippling. The users forget their passwords or share them and write them on stciky notes... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Enforcing passphrase protected ssh keys
Am Wednesday 17 September 2008 15:04:19 schrieb Alan McKinnon: I had thought of that, but I'm shying away from it - the admin load of supporting that many user passwords is crippling. The users forget their passwords or share them and write them on stciky notes... What about one-time-passwords? In addition to a user-supplied SSH-key (whether encrypted or not)? There's J2ME-software (i.e., installable on pretty much any normal mobile phone) to compute OTPs for users, so you don't even need additional hardware such as RSA-Tokens, and there's no (noticeable) administration-overhead. Some intro on this which I just found on google which uses opie: http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/One-time-passwords-for-home-users--/features/88570 -- Heiko Wundram
Re: [gentoo-user] [getting on-topic I think] dial-up, switching isp's and other thoughts.
Dale writes: kashani wrote: Dale wrote: [Google stores emails forever, reads them, may combine the data with your google searches, can create user profiles] But isn't this true of any ISP or email host? No! I guess about all of them have privacy statements that do not allow this. If this is even needed, I doubt that in my country this behaviour would be legal. As it would be illegal for my phone company to listen to my calls. But my point was, whoever owns the email server can read the emails. Right? If I used your service, would you be able to read my emails if you chose to? Not that you would but that you *could*. Sure, they can. And telephone companies also could easily listen to your phone calls, but do you assume they do? And, if so, would you use a company who openly states that they will record your phone calls forever, listen to it, use whatever you say in them for whatever purpose they like? I would assume if a email was encrypted that would be a different story. Well, only if everyone who sends you emails does encrypt, too. And, still: From the moment on that you opened the gmail site in your konqueror or firefox, every google search that you ever did in that browser before now is known to google. Well, they knew them before of course, but they did not know yet who you are. Now they do. Wonko
[gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
On 17 Sep 2008, at 00:27, b.n. wrote: ... In any case, even if r0bertz is a clueless idiot, the only sane approach is even in this case to calmly and rationally explain (or providing links to information) why what he was doing was, in your opinion, wrong. To be completely fair, if you deal with other peoples' problems on IRC on a regular basis then you will know the number of idiots to be quite staggering. There is an unending supply of them - if only we could fuel automobiles with idiocy! - and always another one ready to pop out the woodwork the moment you've dealt with the last one. It is staggering how many questions on IRC can be answered with a simple Google. IRC is an informal medium and maybe someone just had a bad day. I'm not saying the reaction of the devs in that IRC log was right - I'd probably get the hump, too, if I were the subject of such rude dismissal - but maybe treating the user that way was an understandable mistake on the devs part. In many ways being told you're an idiot is better than simply being ignored, because at least it gives you the chance to say, ooops, am i? can you explain what i did wrong, please? Finally, I might add that the log we've seen posted was taken without any context. Perhaps the user is known on the channel for his idiocy, for winding the devs up, for asking stupid questions on a daily basis and not listening to advice given? We don't know. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
Could you please use a mail client which insert correctly the fields In-Reply-To ans Reference ? Thanks for the hint, I was not aware of this. But unfortunately, it appears that it is not just a question of the mail client: I am subsribed to the list as post-only (for several reasons which I do not want to discuss now) and I am actually reading/replying the usenet copy linux.gentoo.user of this list. If you know how I could find out (and use with pine) the correct data in this way, I would be glad to do so, but I am afraid it is impossible. However, due to lack of time this will probably anyway be the last falsely referencing posting for quite a while: my frequent postings in the previous days were really a big exception.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
Vaeth wrote: Could you please use a mail client which insert correctly the fields In-Reply-To ans Reference ? Thanks for the hint, I was not aware of this. But unfortunately, it appears that it is not just a question of the mail client: I am subsribed to the list as post-only (for several reasons which I do not want to discuss now) and I am actually reading/replying the usenet copy linux.gentoo.user of this list. If you know how I could find out (and use with pine) the correct data in this way, I would be glad to do so, but I am afraid it is impossible. However, due to lack of time this will probably anyway be the last falsely referencing posting for quite a while: my frequent postings in the previous days were really a big exception. Trying to follow the thirty odd threads your client is creating when their should be only one is really really annoying. And you're completely wring about NAT routers, but damned if I can find the actual parts of the thread I want to respond to. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
On 15:39 Wed 17 Sep , Stroller wrote: Finally, I might add that the log we've seen posted was taken without any context. Perhaps the user is known on the channel for his idiocy, for winding the devs up, for asking stupid questions on a daily basis and not listening to advice given? We don't know. Hey, I think it is time for me to say something. That was my _very_ first time to ever speak in #paludis. I did read the paludis FAQ before speak in #paludis. But basically the FAQ says nothing about why the option is not implemented other than some vague argument like it could be abused. So I went there to try to get an answer. And... you all know what followed. Actually I still don't think --resume --skipfirst can do big harm to my system. After all, my system have been running well for several years. Vaeth's analysis is very good. IMO, that's by far the most pertinent explanation to this problem. But that still can't happen in a perfect world, because supposedly if a feature is required but can't be supported due to lack of a specific (version) library, ./configure should fail early and loudly. Zhang Le
Re: [gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
And BTW, the command I mentioned in that unpleasant IRC conversation is still here: http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20061002-newsletter.xml#doc_chap3 If I am an idiot, then all gentoo dev's are too. Sorry, my dearest fellow dev's, but this is #paludis people's logic and of course they are wrong. Because gwn is usually sent to gentoo-core for review before publish. And this tip could passed the review. So presumably it should be OK to most gentoo dev's. Zhang Le
Re: [gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
On 15:39 Wed 17 Sep , Stroller wrote: To be completely fair, if you deal with other peoples' problems on IRC on a regular basis then you will know the number of idiots to be quite staggering. There is an unending supply of them - if only we could fuel automobiles with idiocy! - and always another one ready to pop out the woodwork the moment you've dealt with the last one. It is staggering how many questions on IRC can be answered with a simple Google. I myself running a #gentoo-cn, a gentoo-china google group. Also I am a moderator of two gentoo forums, unfortunately one of them is temporarily down (linuxsir.org). Many times, I have exactly the same feeling. However, I never call a new comer an idiot however stupid his question is, thanks to the #paludis people. Coz I know how much that hurts, both to him and to my project. Zhang Le
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to automate rsync of updated portage tree across multiple boxes without each having to pull it down from a gentoo mirror
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, kashani wrote: Vaeth wrote: Could you please use a mail client which insert correctly the fields In-Reply-To ans Reference ? Thanks for the hint, I was not aware of this. But unfortunately, it appears that it is not just a question of the mail client: I am subsribed to the list as post-only (for several reasons which I do not want to discuss now) and I am actually reading/replying the usenet copy linux.gentoo.user of this list. If you know how I could find out (and use with pine) the correct data in this way, I would be glad to do so, but I am afraid it is impossible. However, due to lack of time this will probably anyway be the last falsely referencing posting for quite a while: my frequent postings in the previous days were really a big exception. Trying to follow the thirty odd threads your client is creating when their should be only one is really really annoying. And you're completely wring about NAT routers, but damned if I can find the actual parts of the thread I want to respond to. kashani there is no problem with his posts in kmail.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
2008/9/17 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list What exactly am I doing that isn't calm? two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not answered. I only received one, that didn't contain any content worth answering.
Re: [gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
2008/9/17 Zhang Le [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually I still don't think --resume --skipfirst can do big harm to my system. After all, my system have been running well for several years. If you get so many build failures that you feel the need to systematically ignore them, then your system is not running well.
Re: [gentoo-user] F'ing Idiots on IRC Re: A plea for calm
Em Wednesday 17 September 2008, David Leverton escreveu: 2008/9/17 Zhang Le [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually I still don't think --resume --skipfirst can do big harm to my system. After all, my system have been running well for several years. If you get so many build failures that you feel the need to systematically ignore them, then your system is not running well. OK, David. You're right and all the people on this list recognizes your (and Paludis) superiority. You _can_ stop now. :-) Here is your trophy for being the winner of this thread: http://www.tempetrophy.com/images/trophy.GIF Congratulations. -- Davi Vidal -- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GTalk : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype : davi vidal YIM : davi_vidal ICQ : 138815296
[gentoo-user] Loading iwl3945 erratic
Hi all, I have a Dell XPS M1530 with an Intel IWL3945 wireless card. On power-up/reboot it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I can find no pattern at all, success does not depend on the machine being hot/cold rebooted, powered up from shutdown, hibernate, suspend or any other usual thing. I don't use the wireless-rf kill switch at all. I've googled, read the comments in the source and read heaps of howtos without success. Ideas anyone? On failure, the exact error message in dmesg is: Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [5.304072] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.26kds Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [5.304072] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2008 Intel Corporation Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [6.229313] iwl3945: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [6.230984] iwl3945: Error: saturation power is -1, less than minimum expected 40 Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [6.230984] iwl3945: Invalid power index Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [6.230984] iwl3945: initializing regulatory failed: -5 Sep 17 18:04:48 nazgul [6.237253] iwl3945: probe of :0b:00.0 failed with error -5 On success, the dmesg output is: Sep 17 18:37:52 nazgul [4.576768] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.26ks Sep 17 18:37:52 nazgul [4.576768] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2008 Intel Corporation Sep 17 18:37:52 nazgul [5.490369] iwl3945: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG Sep 17 18:37:52 nazgul [5.603457] iwl3945: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 23 802.11a channels Sep 17 18:37:52 nazgul [5.609491] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs' The hardware: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo lspci | grep -i wireless 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) Kernel: 2.6.26-gentoo Config: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zgrep IWL /proc/config.gz CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m CONFIG_IWLCORE=m # CONFIG_IWLWIFI_LEDS is not set CONFIG_IWLWIFI_RFKILL=y # CONFIG_IWL4965 is not set CONFIG_IWL3945=m CONFIG_IWL3945_SPECTRUM_MEASUREMENT=y CONFIG_IWL3945_LEDS=y # CONFIG_IWL3945_DEBUG is not set [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ grep -i iwl /etc/mod*conf /etc/modprobe.conf:alias wlan0 iwl3945 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Loading iwl3945 erratic
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:03:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, I have a Dell XPS M1530 with an Intel IWL3945 wireless card. On power-up/reboot it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I can find no pattern at all, success does not depend on the machine being hot/cold rebooted, powered up from shutdown, hibernate, suspend or any other usual thing. I don't use the wireless-rf kill switch at all. Config: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zgrep IWL /proc/config.gz CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m CONFIG_IWLCORE=m # CONFIG_IWLWIFI_LEDS is not set CONFIG_IWLWIFI_RFKILL=y # CONFIG_IWL4965 is not set CONFIG_IWL3945=m CONFIG_IWL3945_SPECTRUM_MEASUREMENT=y CONFIG_IWL3945_LEDS=y # CONFIG_IWL3945_DEBUG is not set [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ grep -i iwl /etc/mod*conf /etc/modprobe.conf:alias wlan0 iwl3945 Hi! Do you have mac80211 compiled as a module or in kernel? See http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Ipw3945#iwlwifi for explanation. I'm not sure though if this is still a issue, or if it has been fixed. Espen
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 02:07:49 Hal Martin wrote: Marc Joliet wrote: Am Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:25:02 +0200 schrieb pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, [.] I currently have all my virtual machines configured to use the PCnet-FAST III (Am79C973) virtual network adapter. This was because the Intel PRO/1000 virtual network card often mentioned in the Gentoo wiki isn't available for some reason. I have the virtual adapter attached to NAT and I can mount host machines NFS/Samba shares from inside the virtual machine. Can you do it the reverse way? I mean to mount on the host a nfs share residing in the guest? Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Loading iwl3945 erratic
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:32:21 Espen Hustad wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:03:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, I have a Dell XPS M1530 with an Intel IWL3945 wireless card. On power-up/reboot it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I can find no pattern at all, success does not depend on the machine being hot/cold rebooted, powered up from shutdown, hibernate, suspend or any other usual thing. I don't use the wireless-rf kill switch at all. Config: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zgrep IWL /proc/config.gz CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m CONFIG_IWLCORE=m # CONFIG_IWLWIFI_LEDS is not set CONFIG_IWLWIFI_RFKILL=y # CONFIG_IWL4965 is not set CONFIG_IWL3945=m CONFIG_IWL3945_SPECTRUM_MEASUREMENT=y CONFIG_IWL3945_LEDS=y # CONFIG_IWL3945_DEBUG is not set [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ grep -i iwl /etc/mod*conf /etc/modprobe.conf:alias wlan0 iwl3945 Hi! Do you have mac80211 compiled as a module or in kernel? See http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Ipw3945#iwlwifi for explanation. I'm not sure though if this is still a issue, or if it has been fixed. mac80211 is a module - I learned long ago to make as modules everything that can work as a module :-) Some more info I omitted from the original post: the driver I use is the in-kernel iwl3945 (part of iwlwifi) iwl3945-ucode is installed As far as I can tell, everything I should have done according to that page and to http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Iwlwifi has been done. Working purely from a techie's gut feel here (i.e. no evidence whatsoever), this behaviour looks like what I might get from the following circumstances: - a register in the card is not being properly initialised by the firmware, sometimes a bit is 0 sometimes a 1 at random and the results are not determined - there's a module option that I missed when reading the source comments - a weird race condition at early boot, results are pot-luck - my hardware is busted But I've run out of ideas on how to falsify these theories :-( -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
2008/9/17 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list
*mumble mumble mumble*
two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not
answered.
*mumble mumble*, *mumble mumble mumble FLAMEBAIT*.
So much easier through poo-tinted glasses.
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Re: [gentoo-user] an efficient network file system on slow connection, which one to choose?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I am trying to find out what's the best network file system (in general, like afs, coda, nfs, cifs) fits. We have our two offices connected to each other through a connection average at 15 to 20 KB/s with ping-delay less than 100ms and sharing files on the server in one of the office. [SNIP] Before I try afs, coda, cifs one by one, I'd like to hear opinions from you especially if you tried other file systems already, your comment is very appreciated. Thanks in advance! For your purposes, I believe CIFS/Samba will behave pretty much the same as NFS so probably not what you want. My guess is you will want to try Coda out based on its wikipedia entry. Aaron -- The goblins are in charge of maintenance? Why not just set it on fire now and call it a day? --Whip Tongue, Viashino Technician
[gentoo-user] vmware-server + gentoo-sources-2.6.26, anyone?
All, I upgrade gentoo-sources to 2.6.26 a few days ago and just noticed that vmware-server doesn't play nice with the new kernel. I've seen bug ID 227303, but haven't been successful in patching vmware-server as some of the comments in the bug indicate. Anyone been able to get vmware-server to work with the new kernel? -j
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixergui with gentoo-sources-2.6.26
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, James wrote: All, I have a weird one here. I have been using alsamixergui for quite some time without problems on kernel 2.6.24. The other day I upgraded to 2.6.26 and now every time I try to modify the volume level(s) on alsamixergui for any one of the devices, the mixer just completely hangs. The only way to get it back is to do a kill -9 pid. This happens consistently. (Un)muting works fine on the mixer, but changing volume levels always results in a complete hang. alsamixer (the text version) works beautifully. I've upgraded to the latest version of alsamixergui with no success. Thoughts? -j you are not alone.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server + gentoo-sources-2.6.26, anyone?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:55:20 -0400, James wrote: I upgrade gentoo-sources to 2.6.26 a few days ago and just noticed that vmware-server doesn't play nice with the new kernel. Neither does the vmware-workstation from pportage, but there's a later version available from VMware, and that works with 2.6.26 for me. Or you could try the vmware overlay. -- Neil Bothwick Just when you got it all figured out: An UPGRADE! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixergui with gentoo-sources-2.6.26
Misery loves company, they say. ;) On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008, James wrote: All, I have a weird one here. I have been using alsamixergui for quite some time without problems on kernel 2.6.24. The other day I upgraded to 2.6.26 and now every time I try to modify the volume level(s) on alsamixergui for any one of the devices, the mixer just completely hangs. The only way to get it back is to do a kill -9 pid. This happens consistently. (Un)muting works fine on the mixer, but changing volume levels always results in a complete hang. alsamixer (the text version) works beautifully. I've upgraded to the latest version of alsamixergui with no success. Thoughts? -j you are not alone. -- Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -Tolkien
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server + gentoo-sources-2.6.26, anyone?
From what I've read the latest version of vmware-server (2.0, which is in beta and not yet in portage) is buggy enough to be unstable. ...or were you talking about VMware workstation? On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:55:20 -0400, James wrote: I upgrade gentoo-sources to 2.6.26 a few days ago and just noticed that vmware-server doesn't play nice with the new kernel. Neither does the vmware-workstation from pportage, but there's a later version available from VMware, and that works with 2.6.26 for me. Or you could try the vmware overlay. -- Neil Bothwick Just when you got it all figured out: An UPGRADE!
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixergui with gentoo-sources-2.6.26
On Thursday 18 September 2008, James wrote: Misery loves company, they say. ;) the funny thing: every mixer I try works. Except alsamixergui.
Re: [gentoo-user] alsamixergui with gentoo-sources-2.6.26
It's very possible it's just a bug with alsamixergui...I may file a Gentoo bug so that it can be pushed upstream. -j On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 18 September 2008, James wrote: Misery loves company, they say. ;) the funny thing: every mixer I try works. Except alsamixergui.
Re: [gentoo-user] Loading iwl3945 erratic
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:32:21 Espen Hustad wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2008 22:03:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, I have a Dell XPS M1530 with an Intel IWL3945 wireless card. On power-up/reboot it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. I can find no pattern at all, success does not depend on the machine being hot/cold rebooted, powered up from shutdown, hibernate, suspend or any other usual thing. I don't use the wireless-rf kill switch at all. mac80211 is a module - I learned long ago to make as modules everything that can work as a module :-) Some more info I omitted from the original post: have you tried: - /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 stop - unload module - reload, continue ? I have a precision M6300 with the iwl 4965, and all my problems can usually be solved the above way, although our two laptops are different. the driver I use is the in-kernel iwl3945 (part of iwlwifi) iwl3945-ucode is installed have you recompiled ucode since you last built the module? As far as I can tell, everything I should have done according to that page and to http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/Iwlwifi has been done. Working purely from a techie's gut feel here (i.e. no evidence whatsoever), this behaviour looks like what I might get from the following circumstances: - a register in the card is not being properly initialised by the firmware, sometimes a bit is 0 sometimes a 1 at random and the results are not determined - there's a module option that I missed when reading the source comments - a weird race condition at early boot, results are pot-luck - my hardware is busted But I've run out of ideas on how to falsify these theories :-( One answer to these questions is Winblows. If it works continuously there, then it's not your hw. Another option is reseating the mpci card, or even trying a different one. Otherwise try and match your kernel and ucode versions with someone who has it working... But I'm sure you've thought of that :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The idea is to die young as late as possible. -- Ashley Montague
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right now I got it working without using a bridge. I can ping my Windows XP VM and it can ping everything else on my side, however, nmap won't work. I wonder why? Does the Windows firewall block it off? nmap runs on the guest? After all this, create a small bash script in /usr/bin. I called I would think such a script belongs in /usr/local/bin? Errr.. Yup. But I don't know why VB doesn't get my $PATH. The interface is create and destroyed on demand. I would do that (create a bridge without any IFs attached and then have them added dynamically), except the VBoxAddIF script in virtualbox-ose-2.0.2 craps out on a missing file (/var/run/VirtualBox/vboxnet). Google didn't yield anything useful. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 marcec br0 VirtualBox host networking interface creation utility, version _VERSION_ (C) 2005-2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Creating the permanent host networking interface vbox0 for user marcec. Failed to add the interface vbox0 to the bridge br0. And where's your br0 in /etc/conf.d/net? I can't find it. When looking at the relevent line (237), apparently it's because the directory doesn't exist so it can't create the file. What does it look like on your system? Shouldn't the ebuild have created that directory? I have no /var/run/VirtualBox... but I use virtualbox-bin-2.0.2. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
[gentoo-user] libqt-mt.so.3:
I am receiving the below error when trying to load a specific program. error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I can find references to this problem all over the internet, but not a cure. This should give you system info, Linux tardis 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #5 SMP Tue Sep 16 16:54:41 EDT 2008 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Thanks Sean
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server + gentoo-sources-2.6.26, anyone?
James wrote: All, I upgrade gentoo-sources to 2.6.26 a few days ago and just noticed that vmware-server doesn't play nice with the new kernel. I've seen bug ID 227303, but haven't been successful in patching vmware-server as some of the comments in the bug indicate. Anyone been able to get vmware-server to work with the new kernel? -j You might want to have a gander at this bug report. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227303 Joshua Doll
Re: [gentoo-user] libqt-mt.so.3:
sean wrote: I am receiving the below error when trying to load a specific program. error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I can find references to this problem all over the internet, but not a cure. This should give you system info, Linux tardis 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #5 SMP Tue Sep 16 16:54:41 EDT 2008 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Thanks Sean Since I have that on my machine, I thought I would post what info I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery b libqt-mt.so.3 [ Searching for file(s) libqt-mt.so.3 in *... ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 (/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp =x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 USE=cups gif ipv6 opengl sqlite -debug -doc -examples -firebird -immqt -immqt-bc -mysql -nas -nis -odbc -postgres -xinerama 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That help any? At least you know what package installs it and some of the USE flags. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking [CONTINUE]
Quoting pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Or my be another question :-) I need to run more then one guest OS, so I expect I need to create next bridge, but how? No no.. You're confusing bridges and interfaces. You make ONE bridge and add interfaces to it. Search my email with scripts to create vb interfaces on-demand. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] libqt-mt.so.3:
sean wrote: I am receiving the below error when trying to load a specific program. what program? error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory sounds like you need to run revdep-rebuild I can find references to this problem all over the internet, but not a cure. This should give you system info, Linux tardis 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 #5 SMP Tue Sep 16 16:54:41 EDT 2008 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Gentoo is kind-of different to other distros, so unless the references you found were all about gentoo, they're probably leading you up the wrong path. I think you've upgraded qt, hence whatever program you're trying to run hasn't been compiled with the new lib versions. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Life and death are seldom logical. But attaining a desired goal always is. -- McCoy and Spock, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.7
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Am Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:22:54 -0300 schrieb Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right now I got it working without using a bridge. I can ping my Windows XP VM and it can ping everything else on my side, however, nmap won't work. I wonder why? Does the Windows firewall block it off? nmap runs on the guest? No, on the host. I noticed the following works: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % sudo nmap -PN 172.16.1.2 Passwort: Starting Nmap 4.53 ( http://insecure.org ) at 2008-09-18 02:28 CEST Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.273 seconds [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % So I assume nothing is wrong, it's probably Windows built in firewall. After all this, create a small bash script in /usr/bin. I called I would think such a script belongs in /usr/local/bin? Errr.. Yup. But I don't know why VB doesn't get my $PATH. Yeah, I thought it was something like that, I just wanted to be sure, though in retrospect I guess the question was superfluous. The interface is create and destroyed on demand. I would do that (create a bridge without any IFs attached and then have them added dynamically), except the VBoxAddIF script in virtualbox-ose-2.0.2 craps out on a missing file (/var/run/VirtualBox/vboxnet). Google didn't yield anything useful. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 marcec br0 VirtualBox host networking interface creation utility, version _VERSION_ (C) 2005-2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Creating the permanent host networking interface vbox0 for user marcec. Failed to add the interface vbox0 to the bridge br0. And where's your br0 in /etc/conf.d/net? I can't find it. Sorry, that's because I had it commented out after the failure. It looks like this: config_br0=( 172.16.1.1 broadcast 172.16.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 ) brctl_br0=( setfd 0 sethello 0 stp on ) And that's it. I just created the directory /var/run/VirtualBox/ via mkdir and set the group to vboxusers. Then I ran your script. Now it seems to work, except for the fact that VirtualBox seems to not run the script, even with the full path. I can run the script manually, creating vbox1 and then start the VM and everything works, but with: Attached to:vbox1 Setup application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 up terminate application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 down the VM doesn't start and the TAP devices aren't created. How frustrating :/ . When looking at the relevent line (237), apparently it's because the directory doesn't exist so it can't create the file. What does it look like on your system? Shouldn't the ebuild have created that directory? I have no /var/run/VirtualBox... but I use virtualbox-bin-2.0.2. Hmm, odd. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. So, I'll try some more tomorrow, but now I really need some sleep :-) . -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libqt-mt.so.3:
Iain Buchanan wrote: sean wrote: sounds like you need to run revdep-rebuild Gentoo is kind-of different to other distros, so unless the references you found were all about gentoo, they're probably leading you up the wrong path. I think you've upgraded qt, hence whatever program you're trying to run hasn't been compiled with the new lib versions. HTH, Thanks to Dales reply, I have found libqt. See below. The system is a fresh install, but it is also amd64 bit, as the result shows below. equery b libqt-mt.so.3 [ Searching for file(s) libqt-mt.so.3 in *... ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 (/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3 Here is a ls of /usr/qt/3/lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8628296 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 So it is linked. The application is called Firstclass, www.firstclass.com , an email client my employment uses, so I thought I would try to get it running here. Though I would not use it for my own purposes. I figure the 64bit OS is giving things a headache. Thanks Sean
Re: [gentoo-user] libqt-mt.so.3:
sean wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: sean wrote: sounds like you need to run revdep-rebuild Gentoo is kind-of different to other distros, so unless the references you found were all about gentoo, they're probably leading you up the wrong path. I think you've upgraded qt, hence whatever program you're trying to run hasn't been compiled with the new lib versions. HTH, Thanks to Dales reply, I have found libqt. See below. The system is a fresh install, but it is also amd64 bit, as the result shows below. equery b libqt-mt.so.3 [ Searching for file(s) libqt-mt.so.3 in *... ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 (/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3 Here is a ls of /usr/qt/3/lib lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3.3 - libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8628296 Sep 16 10:00 libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 So it is linked. The application is called Firstclass, www.firstclass.com , an email client my employment uses, so I thought I would try to get it running here. Though I would not use it for my own purposes. I figure the 64bit OS is giving things a headache. Thanks Sean If it were me, I would do the following commands just to see what it says: emerge -uvDNp world revdep-rebuild -X -i -p You may even want to try these if nothing comes back from the above: emerge @preserved-rebuild emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps y world The first may pick up some message that you missed during a previous upgrade. It happens to us all I guess. The second from what I understand just goes a lot deeper into checking dependencies. Post back if anything looks funny. Several gurus around here. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] I am a f*****g retard. Can you help me?
Vaeth ha scritto: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Stroller wrote: The risk is that you want to install X that depends upon Y. The ebuild for X states that version 1.2.3 of Y must be used because there's a bug in 1.2.2. The new version of Y fails to compile, so when X is compiled it only has the old version of Y to work with. It may compile OK but not work or feature a security bug. That's not the real risk: Since any sane user will of course check which packages have failed and make sure that the upgraded version will be installed, this will not leave you with an inconsistent system (the next emerge -NaDu world - which of course also any sane user would do afterwards - would even tell you the problem, and in case of an ABI change you would be informed by revdep-rebuild). Well, that's exactly the point where ciaranm and others accused r0bertz (and implicitly me, usually doing the same) of being... well, the title of my original post is clear. (mlangc) if your update script leaves your system unusable you would not even have a clue what went wrong [...] (zhllg) mlangc, i can find which packages are broken (zhllg) just run emerge -tavuDN world again immediately after running that script [...] (ciaranm) idiot is too mild a term for this one Harsh tones/awkward social skills apart :) , the guys seem to imply this kind of check is not enough. The only case I can think of where _really_ problems might arise is the (very rare) situation which I had described: That the ./configure script of X builds X without errors but also without support for Y if only 1.2.2 of Y is installed: Then neither later upgrading of Y nor revdep-rebuild will show anything suspicious, although X does not behave in the intended way. Very clear, thanks. This is, technically, a bug in the ./configure ,however, isn't it? m.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking [SOLVED]
Thanks to all !!! It works :-) Pat
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: except for the fact that VirtualBox seems to not run the script, even with the full path. I can run the script manually, creating vbox1 and then start the VM and everything works, but with: Attached to:vbox1 That's your problem. You should leave that blank. Setup application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 up terminate application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 down Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] an efficient network file system on slow connection, which one to choose?
Am Mittwoch 17 September 2008 23:51:57 schrieb ext Aaron Clark: My guess is you will want to try Coda out based on its wikipedia entry. Coda is AFAIK still not production ready, so better check if OpenAFS is for you. It's also well supported on Gentoo. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
